Most pressure: 'Skins or Jets?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

im not sure if this was brought up before i became a member here or not, but i want to know who you all think has the most pressure on them to win the season opener, the Redskins or the Jets? is it the skins because we have high expectations and half the jets roster or is it the jets because they want to prove that they are better off without coles, morton, thomas and hall?

[CarMike]

Excellent poll Lady! I wish I had thought of it......lol

I think the pressure is on the Jets more than it is on the Skins. If we win, their fans will go absolutely crazy. The FO will look like morons. If the Jets win.......we'll have to eat crow for a couple of days but it'll soon be forgotten by the next game.

I don't know if I'd say that a loss by the Jets could ruin their season. But, it would be harder for them to rebound....thats why its a good thing this game is early in the season for both teams.

[PennSkinsFan]

Jets. Justification is needed for allowing not just good free agent, but young ones ta that to bolt elsewhere.

[rskinsfan10]

I say the Jets. Their fans seem to think that they are better off without the guys that they lost to us. Better to be without them to overpay is the Jets fan's battle cry, or at least most of their fans. I also point out that we seem to be trying to put the big picture in perspective. Week 1 is only one of sixteen games to determine whether or not this is a playoff team. We could lose and still make the playoffs, or we could win and then tank the rest of the season. I think the Skins and their fans have placed this game in its proper perspective. I don't hear alot of this "see you week 1" crap from us like I do them.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i too think its the jets. how stupid would they look if all the ex players had a big impact on the outcome of the game. from the skins side, i think if we were to lose this game, people would be like, see snyder spent all that money for nothing. the redskins cant even beat the jets, with the jets. and so on. but who cares, because the redskins are almost always going to have haters and negativity toward them.

[rskinsfan10]

true

[TexSkin]

Like what was said above, The Jets have to prove they made the right decision not to keep those players. If they beat us they still will be under tremendous pressure to win the whole year. If they fail to make the playoffs, I think alot of people will blame it on this offseason.

[Ford]

Skins .. jets were a playoff team last year.

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by Ford
Skins .. jets were a playoff team last year.

I agree...The pressure is on the Skins to SHOW the Jets that the Skin's FO made the right decisions in paying big money for Hall, Morton, Thomas and Coles.

[Keino]

I voted with Ford & DJ. I think the pressure is on us, , not only for the the reasons stated, but also becuase of how important of a game it is. Our Schedule is brutal in the 1st half, and we need to come out strong.

[Shabba]

The pressure is on us more to win that game for a lot more reasons that what went on with the Jets. Yes both want that game in the worst way but if the Jets lose then they will say some ugly things but what if the Skins lose, you know darn well that everything moveing in New York and beyound will be down our throats

[CarMike]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
I say the Jets. Their fans seem to think that they are better off without the guys that they lost to us. Better to be without them to overpay is the Jets fan's battle cry, or at least most of their fans. I also point out that we seem to be trying to put the big picture in perspective. Week 1 is only one of sixteen games to determine whether or not this is a playoff team. We could lose and still make the playoffs, or we could win and then tank the rest of the season. I think the Skins and their fans have placed this game in its proper perspective. I don't hear alot of this "see you week 1" crap from us like I do them.

Well said Kenny. I agree 100%.

[Skaggsrules]

I say us, with all of our signings and expectations, we can't afford to stumble out of the gate

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Skaggsrules
I say us, with all of our signings and expectations, we can't afford to stumble out of the gate

That's just it though. The expectations are seemingly only coming from us. The national media for the most part don't think that we will do anything. Snyder is just being Snyder, trying to but another championship. Everyone is throwing out chemistry, and some are comparing this offseason to the one of 2000. Most publications still have us finishing 3rd in the division, and a couple seem to think that the Cowboys will be better. The Jets on the other hand, they have the greatest QB since the game was created:rolleyes: and he can and will lead them to the promise land, even without Coles. Randy Thomas was average at best. Morton will be nothing without Hackett's system, because it was Hackett that instilled the quickness and the ability to make defenders miss him:rolleyes: . Hall simply is the worst, and he would rather spend his time during the day smoking weed. Nope, I still think that it's on the Jets shoulders to prove their superiority.

[Skins57]

I also said the Skins, The fans will put enough pressure on SS and Snyder. If we go get all these JEts players whom are supposed to build this team around SS, which is one reason we struggled last year, and the Jets come in here and beat our much improved team (offense) without these players that are key to us, on national TV in out house, I am sorry SS and company will leave a very bad taste in the mouths of the Skins fans who are sick of all the promises only to see the same old thing again. Even if we make the playoffs this is a must win game for the FO

[Shabba]

Thatz what I'm talking about Skins57.

[truant]

I voted Skins...

Good points all around. Definately nobody can say (and mean it) that Week 1 is just another game.

National media hype... and Brittney Spears?? you know the press will be all over it.

I think the skins have more on the line because this "plan" of ours is being studied by everyone carefully. Teams are signing rookies to contracts to avoid having what happened to the Jets happen to them.

If we lose: that gives the media all this time to ramble about our mistakes and whatnot until week 1 really starts.

If the Jets lose: it's a road game. There will still be heat on their FO, but they are a proven winner over the last couple of years.

There is pressure all around but the hype is greater on our side. Not by people thinking that we'll be good, but rather by the media thinking that we'll fall on our face. If we falter week one, you know they'll look to that to verify that we don't know what we are doing.

[Skins57]

I think the pressure is not about winning but it is more about losing. If that makes sense :D

[Skinzaholic]

Skins... we have MUCH more to prove then the Jets.

[hail2skins]

I say the pressure is on us as well. From what I'm hearing, people are saying we raided the Jets which implicates us not them. Yes, their front office should have taken care of business but the players didn't seek us out, we went after them. If we lose, all the comments about the media mentioned above will be true, if the Jets lose it'll be because we raided them and not that they didn't fill those positions. It's also important because it's a home game and we haven't been very successful at home.

[kelly]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
Jets. Justification is needed for allowing not just good free agent, but young ones ta that to bolt elsewhere.

~ ~ ~ PennSkinsFan : i agree w/you.
our fo has been preaching that they did not want to " overpay " to keep players that they said were not worth the $ that they received from the 'skins.
although i hated to lose coles; i agreed with our fo's decision to decline to match the contract offer he received from the 'skins.
i believe coles will be a highly productive player for you guys.
we're goin' to miss morton as well. he had some great games for us. as long as your special teams provide him with some good blocking; he'll get the yards.
the player that i believe that our team is goin' to miss the most is thomas. he is a terrific og. although, he can be overpowered by the bigger dt's in the league; he is the one player, if i had to choose, that i wish we would have been able to keep. he's a little above average at run-blocking but he excels in pass-blocking. ( i'm sure mr.ramsey will appreciate that ).
well. :banghead: :lolbig: :banger: :Partyup: :banger: :beer: :mfast: :Partybig:

[Spence]

Oh, I think pressure is about equal. The Skins spent a lot of money and gave up a first round pick so the guys we got had better produce. The Jets were a playoff team last year with a young and improving roster. Their fans will roast them [and the GM will lose his job] if the team tumbles this year. I think the Skins have more pressure to do well in the Jets game, but the Jets have more pressure on them to perform the entire season.

[lamont_jordan_rules]

...the pressure will be on the jets my friends...
...oh yes, and they will respond ... they are battle tested:
...two straight years of playoffs, current holders of the division crown, 41-0 spanking of the colts before bowing out to the hated oakland old-agers, these men fought every game with no margin for error after a 2-5 start

rskinsfan10 said:

...The Jets on the other hand, they have the greatest QB since the game was created and he can and will lead them to the promise land, even without Coles. Randy Thomas was average at best. Morton will be nothing without Hackett's system, because it was Hackett that instilled the quickness and the ability to make defenders miss him . Hall simply is the worst, and he would rather spend his time during the day smoking weed. Nope, I still think that it's on the Jets shoulders to prove their superiority.

lets see:
...the qb thing is correct ...
...he will miss coles, but there are enough weapons still there & the defensive improvement with dewayne robertson should be more beneficial to the team...
...i'm not concerned about the changing of the guard...
...it is westhoff's system not hackett's...(special teams)...
...i don't recall anything about hall smoking weed ...i think you were stoned when you heard that ... (i am worried about the jets placekicking situation ...while hall is not in the top 10 in the league he has made some big kicks & been in pressure situations over the years ... don't say i didn't warn you though when your heart is in your throat as he attempts extra points or 20 yard field goals or god forbid the dreaded 40 - 49 yarder ...he,he,he...i hope you have some tums:eek: )

[Spence]

Don't worry about Hall's field goals. I'm sure he'll be good enough, but I don't think The Ol' Ballcoach plans on kicking too many field goals. Hall was brought in for those booming kickoffs of his. They'll come in handy after all those touchdowns.

[kelly]

Originally posted by Spence
Don't worry about Hall's field goals. I'm sure he'll be good enough, but I don't think The Ol' Ballcoach plans on kicking too many field goals. Hall was brought in for those booming kickoffs of his. They'll come in handy after all those touchdowns.

Spence : for the 'skins sake, i hope you're right.
hall will do a good job for you guys on the kickoffs.

p.s. apparently, you do not expect hall to have to attempt too many field goals.
by chance if he does, try not to close your eyes ~ ~ ~

:rolleyes: :banger: :boo: :spy: :mfast: :Partybig: :Partyon: :beer: :golf: :Partyred:

[TexSkin]

Hey if the guy can just hit the easy ones we are happy..you have no idea what kind of pain we have suffered with crappy kickers.

[kelly]

Originally posted by TexSkin
Hey if the guy can just hit the easy ones we are happy..you have no idea what kind of pain we have suffered with crappy kickers.

TexSkin : " just hit the easy ones " ? hall ?


:banghead::stout: :bangdesk: :mfast: :banger: :beer:

[Spence]

I believe Hall's lifetime average is about 70% or so. That's below league average, but a lot better than what the Skins have had for several years now.

From what I understand, though, it was Hall's kickoffs that attracted Spurrier's attention.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Originally posted by lamont_jordan_rules
... don't say i didn't warn you though when your heart is in your throat as he attempts extra points or 20 yard field goals or god forbid the dreaded 40 - 49 yarder ...he,he,he...i hope you have some tums:eek: )
im used to that...lol. im sure every skins fan has been used to covering his or her eyes (and peeking) when our kicker goes for an attempt. its been the norm for awhile now. im sick of it, but im used it.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by lamont_jordan_rules
...i don't recall anything about hall smoking weed ...i think you were stoned when you heard that ...

No, maybe you were stoned when you felt that just because you don't recall it, or that you didn't say it yourself, that it wasn't said. You're not the only Jets fan out there. I don't know if me telling you that was revelation for you, but try to understand that the topic of your team doesn't center around just you. For the record, the Hall smoking weed crack comes courtesy of your fellow Jets fans over at Gang Green. If you take issue with it, may I suggest that you ask them about it. I didn't make it up, maybe they did. Point is, they said it, not me. Okay? Good.....

[nyjunc]

Originally posted by TexSkin
Like what was said above, The Jets have to prove they made the right decision not to keep those players. If they beat us they still will be under tremendous pressure to win the whole year. If they fail to make the playoffs, I think alot of people will blame it on this offseason.

That's right on, our pressure is more during the year. I don't think it hinges on that 1 game especially after we've had slow starts the past few years and have rebounded to make the playoffs. It's been a few years since the 'Skins have made the playoffs and each year there have been splashy moves so I think they will face the pressure as well and b/c of those moves they probably face more pressure going into our Week 1 matchup.

[nyjunc]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
I say the Jets. Their fans seem to think that they are better off without the guys that they lost to us. Better to be without them to overpay is the Jets fan's battle cry, or at least most of their fans. I also point out that we seem to be trying to put the big picture in perspective. Week 1 is only one of sixteen games to determine whether or not this is a playoff team. We could lose and still make the playoffs, or we could win and then tank the rest of the season. I think the Skins and their fans have placed this game in its proper perspective. I don't hear alot of this "see you week 1" crap from us like I do them.

I don't think Jet fans think we are necessarily better off I just think that alot of us think we'll still be very good even w/o them. As much as we hated to lose those guys we didn't lose franchise type players, we didn't lose Chad, Mawae, Abraham, Martin. We lost a very good WR, a good G, a very good KR and a mediocre K. I hated to lose them but we should still be pretty good, let me show you an example.

In 2000 we had to trade away Keyshawn Johnson in the offseason, our WRs for 2000 were Dedric Ward, Wayne Chrebet & a rookie Coles(who wasn't anything like '02 Coles) PLUS we had an aging QB who was coming off msising 1999 following the rupturing of his achilles yet we still went 9-7. This year we have Conway, Chrebet & Moss PLUS a young, star QB in Pennington(I realize he needs to prove he's not a 1 year wonder but I am very confident in Chad) so we are in MUCH, MUCH better shape than 2000.

We are better on paper heading into 2003 than we were heading into 2002. Are we as good as the end of 2002? Not yet but hopefully we progress like we did last year.

[AGibbsGirl]

I think that we need to figure out "Pressure to win" by whom?

If it's the fans or owners, then each team has their own pressures! No right or wrong answer.

If it's the news media, then perhaps the Jets, due to their season last year.

QB's, then maybe Ramsey will have more pressure because people will want to see if he was worth the draft pick and his new position as starter, Pennington has proved himself.

If it's about off season acquisitions, well, perhaps the Skins have more to prove.

I voted Skins