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BandWagon
10-28-2005, 06:15 PM
Here they are:

Gary Clark
Henry Ellard
Irving Fryar
Russ Grimm
Jim Hart
Ken Harvey
Joe Jacoby
Dexter Manley
Charles Mann
Art Monk
Lemar Parrish
Andre Reed
Ken Riley
George Rogers
Joe Theismann

Let the debate begin....cut to 25 occurs next month.
Keino
10-29-2005, 03:30 PM
Grimm and Monk Belong. They should've both been voted in their first year of eligibility. The HOF cannot be given any serious credibility as long as these 2 players remain excluded.

Doug Williams has conviced me that Dexter deserves serious consideration.
Skins.Fan
10-29-2005, 04:02 PM
Grimm and Monk Belong. They should've both been voted in their first year of eligibility. The HOF cannot be given any serious credibility as long as these 2 players remain excluded.

Doug Williams has conviced me that Dexter deserves serious consideration.

I don't think that Dexter gets in due to his off-field troubles. Of course, Ray Lewis is a murderer, Jamal Lewis has his own crack dealership, and Michael Irvin maintained a house of ill repute during his time in Dallas, and those guys will get in (maybe not Jamal).

As I recall Lawrence Taylor may have had an incident or two as well, but he's in. Manley's play makes him arguable, but I believe his troubles exclude him, however unfairly, from the conversation.

Of course, having a Hall of Fame without Art Monk and Russ Grimm is like having a car with no motor. Sure, it looks like a car, and people might appreciate it for that, but it doesn't have all the critically necessary components.
Biggie
10-29-2005, 04:17 PM
Peter King strikes again. :(
OCSkinzFan
10-29-2005, 04:25 PM
Jacoby should be in there too.
He was the premire big O-Tackle of his day.
When he pulled around the end on the counter-tre he looked like snow plow on a school day.
IowaSkinsFan
10-29-2005, 05:35 PM
Doug Williams has conviced me that Dexter deserves serious consideration.

How did he do that?
Keino
10-29-2005, 08:09 PM
He pulled numbers from people who are there and convinced me that Dexter's numbers are comparable, and anyone who saw him saw the effect of Dexter on the field.

BTW -I wasn't saying Jacoby isn't worthy and honestly Clark has numbers that compare very closely to Michael Irvin, I was just saying that Grimm and Monk should've have been there already. Grimm was the best player in the NFL at his position for about 10 years. Jacoby always had Anthony Munoz to contend with and it didn't help him in some peoples eyes that later in his career Lachey moved him to RT.
IowaSkinsFan
10-30-2005, 09:24 AM
He pulled numbers from people who are there and convinced me that Dexter's numbers are comparable, and anyone who saw him saw the effect of Dexter on the field.

BTW -I wasn't saying Jacoby isn't worthy and honestly Clark has numbers that compare very closely to Michael Irvin, I was just saying that Grimm and Monk should've have been there already. Grimm was the best player in the NFL at his position for about 10 years. Jacoby always had Anthony Munoz to contend with and it didn't help him in some peoples eyes that later in his career Lachey moved him to RT.

Another thing that doesn't help Jacoby are the videos of Lawrence Taylor coming around the corner, beating Joe, to sack Theismann or Schroeder. Jacoby was a dominant run blocker, no denying that, but speed rushers could get the better of him. It was a good move to put him on the right side in favor of Lachey on the left.
GibbsRules!
10-30-2005, 09:45 AM
How did he do that?

Read it here (http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=29906&page=3)

Monk and Grimm...it's long overdue.
Chrisbob
10-30-2005, 09:51 AM
I write some stuff for another site, I did 3 pieces about the joke that is the Hall of Fame, feel free to have a look:

The Hall Of Shame - What has Art Monk done wrong? (http://www.gridironfans.com/kb.php?mode=article&k=29)

Quantity or Quality - The Hall OF Shame, Part Two (http://www.gridironfans.com/kb.php?mode=article&k=33)

How Can This Monopoly Be Changed? - The Hall Of Shame, Part Three (http://www.gridironfans.com/kb.php?mode=article&k=38)
GibbsRules!
10-30-2005, 09:57 AM
Redskin's teams dominated the 80's, went to 4 SBs and won 3, played in the toughest division in the NFL, and provided some of the finest football of that era. Yet only 1 player (John Riggens) and Gibbs represent that team.

If that's not a slap in the face I don't know what is. Why the neglection? Monk did his job and did it without flair. What a snub of arguably one of the the best WRs of all time. I don't get it.

BTW, Excellent write ups CB.
frankez99
10-30-2005, 10:48 AM
I write some stuff for another site, I did 3 pieces about the joke that is the Hall of Fame, feel free to have a look:

The Hall Of Shame - What has Art Monk done wrong? (http://www.gridironfans.com/kb.php?mode=article&k=29)

Quantity or Quality - The Hall OF Shame, Part Two (http://www.gridironfans.com/kb.php?mode=article&k=33)

How Can This Monopoly Be Changed? - The Hall Of Shame, Part Three (http://www.gridironfans.com/kb.php?mode=article&k=38)

Those are some EXCELLENT articles...echoing what EVERYONE in here thinks. Awesome job Chrisbob.:)