Okay guys

[Redskinfan28]

That was the worst game I have ever seen. For all the "we're back" talk we have displayed, I'm not really sure our team is that good. We are 1-3 in the last 4 weeks, with the only victory coming against the hapless 49ers. I'm not backing off my 8-8 prediction from the beginning of the year.

But on to next week. The Eagles game is a must win because (1) its at home, (2) is a division game, and (3) it will probably take a 10-6 record to get a wildcard bid. If we come out of the Eagles game at 4-4, it will be hard to make the playoffs, IMO. Anyway, is next weeks game a must win? Please comment.

[Redskinfan28]

NOT TO WORRY.

coach gibbs is on the job.

Sarcasm?

[GibbsFan]

Anyway, is next weeks game a must win? Please comment.

All division games are must wins. That said we did'nt muster much effort today. A loss next week would however make the playoffs hard.

[Death_Venom]

This absolutely the WORST game we have played...............If we cannot win DIVISION GAMES we cannot make the playoffs..............ABSOLUTE CRAP.

[dukeuch]

no,
coach gibbs has proven that he is one of the best coaches around.
he'll regroup; & come back strong

Gibbs is a great coach, but what happened today? Any blame fall his way?

[Redskinfan28]

Jesus - the Giants D gives up 415 yards per game and we got 125 today. Thats amazing.

[inevitable]

I'm more worried about injuries then anything else:

1) Chris Samuels
2) Chris Cooley
3) Joe Salave'a
4) Phillip Daniels
5) Clinton Portis

thats a lot of guys to get hurt in one day

[Redskin006]

I'm more worried about injuries then anything else:

1) Chris Samuels
2) Chris Cooley
3) Joe Salave'a
4) Phillip Daniels
5) Clinton Portis

thats a lot of guys to get hurt in one day

especially in a crap loss today too!

[nicefellow31]

This absolutely the WORST game we have played...............If we cannot win DIVISION GAMES we cannot make the playoffs..............ABSOLUTE CRAP.

Oh well. We've got to forget about this one and get ready for the Eagles. Maybe playing at Fedex gets us pumped up.

[Redskinfan28]

I'm more worried about injuries then anything else:

1) Chris Samuels
2) Chris Cooley
3) Joe Salave'a
4) Phillip Daniels
5) Clinton Portis

thats a lot of guys to get hurt in one day

Chris Samules sucks. First, it was the no-name from KC who killed him and today it was another no-name DE killing him.

[inevitable]

I'd prefer Chris Samuels to Ray Brown though. Just saying I think that injury will hurt us the most.

[becky]

Chris Samules sucks. First, it was the no-name from KC who killed him and today it was another no-name DE killing him.

I'm not sure I prefer Ray Brown in there though.

[Redskinfan28]

I'm not sure I prefer Ray Brown in there though.

I'm not saying that - I'm just frustrated that he is terrible this year after getting all that money.

[Biggie]

Chris Samules sucks. First, it was the no-name from KC who killed him and today it was another no-name DE killing him.

Waste of an enormous contract extension.

[DoGood]

I hope we have some tough Redskin fans at the Eagles game next week. We need all the help we can get after that performance.

[Redskinfan28]

I hope we have some tough Redskin fans at the Eagles game next week. We need all the help we can get after that performance.

Jesus - I hate Eagles fans.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

help me out guys. i need some nominees for my sig. today, we will vote on the player of the WEAK. i already have samuels, royal, the entire team, the entire offense and the entire defense in my head.

[just_lionel]

I'll will be pulling the skins this upcoming week. Hopefully the injuries are not too serious. I didn't get to watch the game on TV so I don't know the extent of them.

Hopefully your team will pull together and put one of their best showings next week. As I said before, everyone has a bad game every season (NE loss to Miami last year?).

I know it stings (as our loss to Dallas did) but I think you guys will pull back. As for the 1-3 record over the past four. Two of them you barely loss.

[Death_Venom]

Chris Samules sucks. First, it was the no-name from KC who killed him and today it was another no-name DE killing him.

Thank You MY POINT EXACTLY and Yet we signed this lug-nut to a multi-year & multi-million dollar contract............

[Redskinfan28]

help me out guys. i need some nominees for my sig. today, we will vote on the player of the WEEK. i already have samuels, royal, the entire team, the entire offense and the entire defense in my head.

John Hall - he's the only player that didn't suck.

[superskin]

The Giants only had one team owner, so unless Coach Couglin passes away this week, they wont have the ammunition for another "emotional" win like this for the rest of the season.

We came unprepared, and we faced this team at the wrong time emotionally. Chalk it up as a wake-up call and move on. Yes, we are 1-3 during the last 4 weeks, but the losses against the Broncos and Chiefs were hard-fought, admirable efforts.

I could see Joe seething on the sideline. TRUST ME - this team will be fired up and ready to POP on Sunday night against the Iggles.

If you told me at the start of the season that we would be 4-3 at this point of the year, I would have been pleased. Let's not lose sight of that.

[Santheb]

Wait, all those guys got injured? How bad?

[Death_Venom]

help me out guys. i need some nominees for my sig. today, we will vote on the player of the WEEK. i already have samuels, royal, the entire team, the entire offense and the entire defense in my head.


I think in Honor of of LOSS this week we should change that & nominate the WORST PLAYER of the week and SAMUELS gets my VOTE...........:devil2:

[DoGood]

The Giants only had one team owner, so unless Coach Couglin passes away this week, they wont have the ammunition for another "emotional" win like this for the rest of the season.

We came unprepared, and we faced this team at the wrong time emotionally. Chalk it up as a wake-up call and move on. Yes, we are 1-3 during the last 4 weeks, but the losses against the Broncos and Chiefs were hard-fought, admirable efforts.

I could see Joe seething on the sideline. TRUST ME - this team will be fired up and ready to POP on Sunday night against the Iggles.

If you told me at the start of the season that we would be 4-3 at this point of the year, I would have been pleased. Let's not lose sight of that.

If Superskin can't pick you up, your hopeless. GO SKINS!!!

[just_lionel]

First, it was the no-name from KC who killed him and today it was another no-name DE killing him.

I really would call Osi a no-name DE. Yes, he hasn't been in the league that long, but he is getting is name known.

[Axegrinder]

This was one of those games where a team was not going to be denied.
They played for Wellington Mara.
We beat the SuperBowl running Cowboys at the last game at RFK and we beat Tampa Bay for Gibbs' 1st game back.
Some games are like this.

[dukeuch]

The Giants only had one team owner, so unless Coach Couglin passes away this week, they wont have the ammunition for another "emotional" win like this for the rest of the season.

We came unprepared, and we faced this team at the wrong time emotionally. Chalk it up as a wake-up call and move on. Yes, we are 1-3 during the last 4 weeks, but the losses against the Broncos and Chiefs were hard-fought, admirable efforts.

I could see Joe seething on the sideline. TRUST ME - this team will be fired up and ready to POP on Sunday night against the Iggles.

If you told me at the start of the season that we would be 4-3 at this point of the year, I would have been pleased. Let's not lose sight of that.

If Mara had not died, we might have held 'em to 28 points. Barber looked like Superman out there, and is having a better year than Portis. What's he getting paid compared to CP?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

I think in Honor of of LOSS this week we should change that & nominate the WORST PLAYER of the week and SAMUELS gets my VOTE...........:devil2:
i made a mistake. i meant to say player of the WEAK.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

I think in Honor of of LOSS this week we should change that & nominate the WORST PLAYER of the week and SAMUELS gets my VOTE...........:devil2:
Yeah Samuels was terrible. But Ray Brown isn't going to be an improvement. Betts & Royal were damn near at Samuel's level. All three facets of the Skin's games were miserable. A completely depressing loss and I'm now really worried about our season and what a loss can do. Does this theam have a fragile psyche? We'll next sunday night.

[inevitable]

Well lets see, the Giants gave the ball to Tiki 20 some odd times? How many carries didn't Portis get?

[PennSkinsFan]

Yeah Samuels was terrible. But Ray Brown isn't going to be an improvement. Betts & Royal were damn near at Samuel's level. All three facets of the Skin's games were miserable. A completely depressing loss and I'm now really worried about our season and what a loss can do. Does this theam have a fragile psyche? We'll next sunday night.

Yup. My weakest player today:

Chris Samuels looked horrendous. He was beaten, when he wasn't it was becaus ehe had help.

Ladell Betts: fumble, lackof concentration, dropped passes, you name it.

David Patten dropped two

Santana Moss dropped two and fumbled.

Robert Royal was god-awful

Mark Brunell looked off and uncomfortable today, complete change, he actually looked like last season, unsure.

Walt Harris, missed tackles and that play wher ehe failed to bring down Burress from lack of effort is unforgivable. I am ready for Carlos Rogers to start, enough of that crap. A bad game is a bad game, but giving up is different.

Holdman just stinks, period.

Dts did not get an ounce of pressure in the middle. DEs sucked horrendously.


Biggest problem today, this team did not show up physically or mentally, period, both sides of the ball.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

Yup. My weakest player today:

Chris Samuels looked horrendous. He was beaten, when he wasn't it was becaus ehe had help.

Ladell Betts: fumble, lackof concentration, dropped passes, you name it.

David Patten dropped two

Santana Moss dropped two and fumbled.

Robert Royal was god-awful

Mark Brunell looked off and uncomfortable today, complete change, he actually looked like last season, unsure.

Walt Harris, missed tackles and that play wher ehe failed to bring down Burress from lack of effort is unforgivable. I am ready for Carlos Rogers to start, enough of that crap. A bad game is a bad game, but giving up is different.

Holdman just stinks, period.

Dts did not get an ounce of pressure in the middle. DEs sucked horrendously.


Biggest problem today, this team did not show up physically or mentally, period, both sides of the ball.

I think it goes without saying that Gibbs, Silliams and the entire team feel embarrassed today. I hope the coaches work the player's asses off in practice next week. Both for punishment for this effort (I saw some quit today) and prep for Philly on Sunday. Regardless of the extra emotion the Giants got form Wellington Mara's passing, this was a horrendus effort. Shameful, miserable Viking-like effort. Very depressing.

[akhhorus]

At the end of the day, it is just one game. Plenty of blame to go around, plenty of work to do. There is another game in a week.

[saviour]

Yup. My weakest player today:

Chris Samuels looked horrendous. He was beaten, when he wasn't it was becaus ehe had help.

Ladell Betts: fumble, lackof concentration, dropped passes, you name it.

David Patten dropped two

Santana Moss dropped two and fumbled.

Robert Royal was god-awful

Mark Brunell looked off and uncomfortable today, complete change, he actually looked like last season, unsure.

Walt Harris, missed tackles and that play wher ehe failed to bring down Burress from lack of effort is unforgivable. I am ready for Carlos Rogers to start, enough of that crap. A bad game is a bad game, but giving up is different.

Holdman just stinks, period.

Dts did not get an ounce of pressure in the middle. DEs sucked horrendously.


Biggest problem today, this team did not show up physically or mentally, period, both sides of the ball.

My thoughts exactly. Walt Harris should be ashamed of himself. Not only did he not finish the play with Toomer, but he gave a 10 yd cushion on every passing down.

The only player in my opinion that played until the final whistle was Sean Taylor. Even when we were losing big he was still out there hitting people and trying to make things happen. But he made a few mistakes as well so he is not excused but I do like the fight in this kid.

[Redskinfan28]

At the end of the day, it is just one game. Plenty of blame to go around, plenty of work to do. There is another game in a week.

If we lose next week, it will be tough to make the playoffs. This was a big loss.

[Death_Venom]

Yeah Samuels was terrible. But Ray Brown isn't going to be an improvement. Betts & Royal were damn near at Samuel's level. All three facets of the Skin's games were miserable. A completely depressing loss and I'm now really worried about our season and what a loss can do. Does this theam have a fragile psyche? We'll next sunday night.


Yes let me not forget about my BUDDY, MY PAL- Ladell Betts...............YEah.............I would ABSOLUTELY love to attach a chain to his FREAKING ARM then attach the other END OF THE CHAIN TO MY TRUCK AND DO DONUTS AROUND THE PARKING LOT....................YEah...........:devil2:

[akhhorus]

If we lose next week, it will be tough to make the playoffs. This was a big loss.

Yes, but the Skins have gotten torched via the run(especially the big run) all year, Philly is a good team, but unless they run it 30 times, I think the

[Kope65]

The only thing I have to say is WTF?

[Dexter72]

The Eagles are playing EVEN WORSE than us right now. McNabb is 0-7 and they have 2 yds rushing. TB is tied with SF in the 2nd. Hopefully these 2 won't be as difficult as we would have thought...We might need all the help we can get.

[Redskinfan28]

Yes, but the Skins have gotten torched via the run(especially the big run) all year, Philly is a good team, but unless they run it 30 times, I think the

I have little faith right now. I need to go drink more.

I would like to see thm take this loss a little harder, but coaches and players are just shrugging it off.

[akhhorus]

I have little faith right now. I need to go drink more.

I would like to see thm take this loss a little harder, but coaches and players are just shrugging it off.


lol. Not worth it, I'll toast the victory over the Eagles next week. The Skins aren't going to make this many mistakes again, or Gibbs will have two players shot, I guarantee that.

What can you really say publically? Eric Allen had the best comment when he said on the post game show that you just have to pick yourself up and worry about next week's game. Thats exactly what the Skins have to do. Beat Philly and this will be forgotten. And remember, the Giants come to Fedex in a few weeks.

[fent]

lol. Not worth it, I'll toast the victory over the Eagles next week. The Skins aren't going to make this many mistakes again, or Gibbs will have two players shot, I guarantee that.

he should have the fans vote to decide who gets to choose their last meal.

[skinem]

Tough game, but it seemed pretty obvious the Giants were very well prepared for us, and we had a poor plan for them and just could not execute. They were emotional, and we were just not into it. A few thoughts though, I felt like patten had a huge dropped pass in the early part of the game and there were alot of drops all day. It seemed obvious that the plan for the Giants was to run at the right side of our defense and throw at corner Walt Williams both very successful. Our offensive and defensive lines were dreadful and our tackling was poor but it kinda (felt like) our guys were playing nicked up which will cause that. Coach Gibbs will right his ship on O, Will GW figure out after 4 games of really big plays to fix the right side of our defense, I would love to hear Daniels or Wynn or Holdmans name more than just once a game. They doubled Santana all day and we were 1 2 3 out no backup plan...
I think we will be ready next week so keep the faith Skins fans!!!! Holdman spent all game blocked, out of position or on the ground, the Giants did their homework. We turned it over, penalties, awwwwww!!!:banghead:

[Death_Venom]

he should have the fans vote to decide who gets to choose their last meal.


If it is SAMUELS AGAIN then I would suggest a RAZOR BLADE BREAKFAST.......................:devil2:

[Redskinfan28]

Can we please stop playing holdman now? Teams just run over him.

[InsomniaKiller]

the good news is that the eagles somehow look even worse than we did today.

i think it was just "one of those days."

feels like crap but i still honestly believe we're a good team.

[Redskinfan28]

28-0 Broncos in the 2nd Qtr.

[Smurf]

Im not happy about the Eagles game.They are going to be just as mad as are team i really hope we can win this MuST WIN GAME because if we dont.I think Denver is going to get a better 1st round pick then we all want.

[Joe-T]

THIS:banghead: will be the game every other team now watchs to stop the Skins !

[Smurf]

Originally Posted by Redskinfan28
Can we please stop playing holdman now? Teams just run over him

I hate to tell you but Lavar got ran over a few times today.

[Joe-T]

Originally Posted by Redskinfan28


I hate to tell you but Lavar got ran over a few times today.

yup ,so did Mr Taylor.:banghead:

[akhhorus]

yup ,so did Mr Taylor.:banghead:

Taylor was one of the few players who actually made some plays. Save your campaign against him for another week.

[smoak]

we are not a good football team. period.

i love gibbs, and i have full faith, but the players are not getting it done.

[smoak]

Taylor was one of the few players who actually made some plays. Save your campaign against him for another week.

akh - tell me you aren't defending some of these gutless wonders??

[Skin-E-Dip]

Who sent the G'ints our gameplan and playbook? Thats the only reason I can understand how we could be so completely dominated out there today. What in the hell happened? How can professional offensive players forget how to catch footballs in one week time?

At least we can go one week without people complaining about the lack of respect we get. We got fed a big slice of humble pie and put in our place as a high achieving mediocre team

[Joe-T]

akh - tell me you aren't defending some of these gutless wonders??

Don't ask , this is why he's on my ignore list .Taylor missed tackles today and so did LaVar .

[Joe-T]

Who sent the G'ints our gameplan and playbook? Thats the only reason I can understand how we could be so completely dominated out there today. What in the hell happened? How can professional offensive players forget how to catch footballs in one week time?

At least we can go one week without people complaining about the lack of respect we get. We got fed a big slice of humble pie and put in our place as a high achieving mediocre team

I agree and I think we deserve it .

[akhhorus]

akh - tell me you aren't defending some of these gutless wonders??

No player really deserves praise, but Taylor and a couple others didn't do as badly as the rest. Taylor made some good plays, he also gave up plays(as did everyone). If I was going to pick any remotely bright spots from today, Taylor would have to be up there. I'm sorry I'm not taking the apocalyptic approach you are. Its one game. The Skins sucked, but it is one game.

[akhhorus]

Don't ask , this is why he's on my ignore list .Taylor missed tackles today and so did LaVar .

Stupid me pointing out that he made plays. He gave up some, but he was making them. But no-one on the Skins should be praised for today. So I'm on your ignore list because I like Taylor :rolleyes:

[inevitable]

I like to think its one game, but it seems we can't perform in the NFC east. I mean, if we get crushed next week, what does it matter if we played the Broncos and the Cheifs close, and blew out the 49ers?

[X-Factor13]

YES it is a HUGE must win, if there is such a thing. However i do believe that Gibbs will give the team one helluva week of practice to make sure that we're focused.

I doubt we play two bad games in a row

[saviour]

I think the biggest problem is that we play sloppy like this EVERY single time we go on the road. It seems that the entire team is tentative on the road. Gibbs is notorious for pulling the reigns back so that he does not allow the home team to gather momentum but it usually hurts us if we dont score early.

Until we get our road problems ironed out we will continue to have tough losses. Maybe not to this extent but tough none the less.

BTW. The Eagles are showing something that our Skins did not show all day. Heart.

Westbrook just scored on a checkdown pass to cut it to 28-21.

[Biggie]

I was actually just talking to somebody about this, and she brought up an interesting point: the defense did nothing because it was tired. They were on the field for a good 40 minutes, and even the best defenses can't play that much without significant rest. Our offense dropped everything in sight, and the continual three-and-outs and lack of execution hurt Brunell's confidence and killed any momentum. Remember, when they were fresh, the D stuffed the Giants in the redzone and got a pick. When they got tired, the Giants wore them out. So, I think the reason we did absolutely nothing comes down to our offense doing a 180.

[akhhorus]

I was actually just talking to somebody about this, and she brought up an interesting point: the defense did nothing because it was tired. They were on the field for a good 40 minutes, and even the best defenses can't play that much without significant rest. Our offense dropped everything in sight, and the continual three-and-outs and lack of execution hurt Brunell's confidence and killed any momentum. Remember, when they were fresh, the D stuffed the Giants in the redzone and got a pick. When they got tired, the Giants wore them out. So, I think the reason we did absolutely nothing comes down to our offense doing a 180.

I give the defense credit for holding them to only 36 points. Based onthe how the offense played, they could have had 60. But they were out there forever basically the entire game.

[nynate]

The Giants only had one team owner, so unless Coach Couglin passes away this week, they wont have the ammunition for another "emotional" win like this for the rest of the season.

We came unprepared, and we faced this team at the wrong time emotionally. Chalk it up as a wake-up call and move on. Yes, we are 1-3 during the last 4 weeks, but the losses against the Broncos and Chiefs were hard-fought, admirable efforts.

I could see Joe seething on the sideline. TRUST ME - this team will be fired up and ready to POP on Sunday night against the Iggles.

If you told me at the start of the season that we would be 4-3 at this point of the year, I would have been pleased. Let's not lose sight of that.


Pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. I think in the long run this my end up being better for us than for the giants. They played such an emotional game this week that they may have tapped themselves out. Where as Gibbs is going to turn this into a turning point for us. I honestly think we needed that. If we weren't going to win, I'm glad we got destroyed because Gibbs and GW will use this feeling they have this week as a major motivation to never, and I mean NEVER play this badly again.

Next week is really going to tell a lot about this team.

[Biggie]

This may end up being similar to us in Week 2. We drained ourselves with that win in Week 2, and we were saved by the bye week. The Giants don't have that benefits, and they may fall flat against...

Oh wait, they're playing San Francisco next week. Never mind.

[AGibbsGirl]

I too am less upset with our Defense on this game, but there continues to be no excuse for some of the poor tackling that we have witnessed this season

Simply no excuse for the amount of big plays the other teams seem to execute on us each game.

Today we had a 57 yard run and a 59 yard run...I'm sick of that...we have got to wrap up the runners, wrap up the ball and wrap up the game in the first half...today was a sad day...but I always remember the phrase..."On any given Sunday..."

[hail2skins]

What a difference a game makes. We've been enjoying a good season so far and everyone was saying how the team was coming along. We lose a game, reallly bad, and now we're not a good team. Give me a break folks. I won't make that judgement after one game. I know people are frustrated about the loss but at least think before you post.

The team has to learn from this game and then put it behind them because there's another division game this week. We win that and we're right back in the mix. If the Giants would have lost this game they would have been 0-2 in the division, so they had a lot to play for. They had that emotional high going and we couldn't match it and we didn't execute. There's blame all around for this one. It was a team loss just like we've had team wins. I'm not giving up on this team yet like some of you are doing.

[hail2skins]

Plus, Philly is losing 49-21

[whitskins]

What a difference a game makes. We've been enjoying a good season so far and everyone was saying how the team was coming along. We lose a game, reallly bad, and now we're not a good team. Give me a break folks. I won't make that judgement after one game. I know people are frustrated about the loss but at least think before you post.

The team has to learn from this game and then put it behind them because there's another division game this week. We win that and we're right back in the mix. If the Giants would have lost this game they would have been 0-2 in the division, so they had a lot to play for. They had that emotional high going and we couldn't match it and we didn't execute. There's blame all around for this one. It was a team loss just like we've had team wins. I'm not giving up on this team yet like some of you are doing.

I agree, some people are just acting too nuts after this game. It's one freaking game folks, move on. I hope the Redskins are a little more stable than some of the fans because if we win next week we're still right in the mix. Calm down, the stars were aligned against us today, it happens. We'll be ok.

[akhhorus]

What a difference a game makes. We've been enjoying a good season so far and everyone was saying how the team was coming along. We lose a game, reallly bad, and now we're not a good team. Give me a break folks. I won't make that judgement after one game. I know people are frustrated about the loss but at least think before you post.

I had to watch them among 30 Giants fans at a sports bar and while I'm upset about the game, I'm not on suicide watch like some members. People just need to relax, its a LONG season.

[ryflan47]

I had to watch them among 30 Giants fans at a sports bar and while I'm upset about the game, I'm not on suicide watch like some members. People just need to relax, its a LONG season.
Try thousands of Giants fans.

[dukeuch]

the good news is that the eagles somehow look even worse than we did today.

i think it was just "one of those days."

feels like crap but i still honestly believe we're a good team.

How in the world do you figure that? Can you even compare the NYG to Devner?

[dukeuch]

Well lets see, the Giants gave the ball to Tiki 20 some odd times? How many carries didn't Portis get?

I agree with you; it's the coaches fault.

[Redskinfan28]

How in the world do you figure that? Can you even compare the NYG to Devner?

Well, since the NYG beat Denver - yea. :lol1:

[Patrick]

Geeeezzzzzzzz .............. I can't believe some of you. For those who think our team "Sucks" and the season is "Over". Do the rest of us a favor, go find something else to get into for the rest of the football season.....REALLY - the NBA starts this week, Bull Riding is at it's peak, NHL, college sports, HECK even the Food Network is doing some really good stuff getting ready for the holidays - ANYTHING - Just take your "Doom&Gloom" attitude out of here.

You honestly can't think for one moment that we'll play like this the rest of the year . ONE GAME does not make a season. Nine games left - FIVE which are at home. Get a fricken grip!

Yes that was a bad game - NO A HORRID GAME!!!!! Get over it.
Yes we have concerns and things that need to be corrected BUT do you think the coaching staff is going just roll over and die.
Yes we have injuries to key positions BUT so does just about every other team.
Philly didn't come out its game clean. AND look at Tampa!!!

I have no idea how this season is going to turn out BUT I know one thing - I'm not giving up on the Redskins ...... BOTTOMLINE ......

Sorry - Just the way I feel! :mad:

[Redskinfan28]

What a difference a game makes. We've been enjoying a good season so far and everyone was saying how the team was coming along. We lose a game, reallly bad, and now we're not a good team. Give me a break folks. I won't make that judgement after one game. I know people are frustrated about the loss but at least think before you post.

The team has to learn from this game and then put it behind them because there's another division game this week. We win that and we're right back in the mix. If the Giants would have lost this game they would have been 0-2 in the division, so they had a lot to play for. They had that emotional high going and we couldn't match it and we didn't execute. There's blame all around for this one. It was a team loss just like we've had team wins. I'm not giving up on this team yet like some of you are doing.

I'm not saying we are a bad team, and I'm certainly not giving up. I do think we need to beat Philly at home this week to make the playoffs because it looks like it will take a 10-6 record to nab at least a wildcard spot. We don't look like a particularly good road team this year.

[28thegreat]

I'm not saying we are a bad team, and I'm certainly not giving up. I do think we need to beat Philly at home this week to make the playoffs because it looks like it will take a 10-6 record to nab at least a wildcard spot. We don't look like a particularly good road team this year.
We need to beat Philly at home this week because...we NEED to beat Philly anytine we play them! If we were headed for a 2 and 14 record, we would need to beat Philly.

[dukeuch]

Well, since the NYG beat Denver - yea. :lol1:
And SF beat TB, and we beat SF. So you'd rather play TB than SF?

[dabro]

A team is never as good as it looks after it blows another team out (SF 49rs), or as bad as it looks after it gets blown out. Injuries on the D-line could be a big problem, however.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

The out come of the NY game doesn't validate what the Skins are about, and by no means should some come to the conclusion that we suck! We sucked that day, but we don't suck. I think this week of preperation for the Iggles was turned up notch due to the lack of intensity against the tiny giants!

[Battle Cat]

Yeah I don't know why the over reaction by some fans. A loss is a loss whether you get blown out or beat at the last second. A couple of things need to be fixed though the Giants ran to the right side whenever they wanted a big play. They did not overuse it but whenever they felt like breaking off a big run to the right side they went, other teams have done this as well. And teams are going to adjust to Santana Moss sooner or later we all knew that someone else has to step up. No one thought Moss was going to put up 150 yards every week I hope. Patten Thrash Jacobs and Cooley have to step up. And can we please run the ball, I know Portis maybe hurt but if he is I like the guy but he needs to let Betts play or if the coachs are just choosing not to run they need to rethink.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

he needs to let Betts play or if the coachs are just choosing not to run they need to rethink

Your absolutely right. I am a fan of Portis, but lately he's been running scared. Look at the San Fan game, Betts had 90 yard rushing on like 9 attempts. Nothing outside, all inside runs in between the tackles. He hit the wholes with more explosion that Portis. Clinton is a lot more effective coming out the back feild and catching passes out in the flats.

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[smoak]

Yeah I don't know why the over reaction by some fans. A loss is a loss whether you get blown out or beat at the last second. A couple of things need to be fixed though the Giants ran to the right side whenever they wanted a big play. They did not overuse it but whenever they felt like breaking off a big run to the right side they went, other teams have done this as well. And teams are going to adjust to Santana Moss sooner or later we all knew that someone else has to step up. No one thought Moss was going to put up 150 yards every week I hope. Patten Thrash Jacobs and Cooley have to step up. And can we please run the ball, I know Portis maybe hurt but if he is I like the guy but he needs to let Betts play or if the coachs are just choosing not to run they need to rethink.

I disagree in that how you lose might say something about your team. I'm ok when the Skins come out and fight hard but just get beat. What I can NOT for the life of me understand is how they failed to show up given they had a chance at first place.

That said, they have a chance to erase that performance this Sunday.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

I totaly agree, those losses in Arrowhead and Mile High we went down swinging. We didn't pull any punches against those teams. In the Meadowlands, we just straight out folded like a origami pelican!! We showed a lack of heart and testinal fortitude!!!!

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[Battle Cat]

I disagree in that how you lose might say something about your team. I'm ok when the Skins come out and fight hard but just get beat. What I can NOT for the life of me understand is how they failed to show up given they had a chance at first place.

That said, they have a chance to erase that performance this Sunday.
They are still loses and need to be learned from and put behind the team until the next week. When they decide who goes to the Playoffs they are not going to say the Redskins are 9-7 and one loss was a blow out to the Giants and the rest were close games, it is going to be 9 -7. If Dallas is 8-8 it is not going to say dallas was 8-8 but played this team and that team close. we need to get to 9 wins preferable 10 and if the 6 or 7 losses we lose by 50 each and the 9 or 10 wins we win all on last second field goals I will be happy.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

we need to get to 9 wins preferable 10 and if the 6 or 7 losses we lose by 50 each and the 9 or 10 wins we win all on last second field goals I will be happy.

I agree, if we can atleast come out second in the NFC east, it will better our chances of making it into the play offs.