Where do we go from here?

[ryflan47]

After today's game, what do you think? Vote. Explain.
This is a public poll, so you WILL have to explain yourself.

[LATrueRedskin]

Fluke all the way. I've never seen a bigger fluke in my life.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

aberration. period. you cant look that bad again unless you are a bad team. we are not a bad team.

[akhhorus]

No way the Skins play like this again. No way they have 4 straight turnovers. And I doubt that the beloved owners of teams we're going to play are going to die before each game. This was a fluke.

[whitskins]

We're not as bad as we played today, maybe the Giants are a better team right now, but the stars were aligned against us in every way. I think we rebound next week. It's a horrible loss but no matter how much you win or lose by it's only one game, we'll bounce back.

[ryflan47]

And I doubt that the beloved owners of teams we're going to play are going to die before each game. This was a fluke.

I honestly think that had something to do with it. That is what I was most worried about going into the game.

[skinsfan811]

Fluke...how else do you exlain a team going from the #2 offense in the league and coming off a 52 pt. performance to being shutout and looking horrible?

[wewantdallas]

No way the Skins play like this again. No way they have 4 straight turnovers. And I doubt that the beloved owners of teams we're going to play are going to die before each game. This was a fluke.

I agree this was a fluke on many levels.

But the turnover thing is a CONSTANT with this team, and that is hardly a fluke, and that is what killed us today, as it has in all of our losses.

I'm sure Gibbs is racking his brain over how he can get this across to the team. Nothing seems to work. Unless they're playing the Niners.

[DoGood]

Fluke game. Although I can't explain any of our actions. All I know is we can never play like that again even if we try.

[DoGood]

Believe it or not guys, the Eagles are actually on pace to get PASTED worse than us, currently losing 28-0 with almost 8 minutes left in the first half.

[skinsfan811]

Believe it or not guys, the Eagles are actually on pace to get PASTED worse than us, currently losing 28-0 with almost 8 minutes left in the first half.


Haha...that isn't even a game.

4 yds. of total offense...that's all I have to say.

[akhhorus]

Believe it or not guys, the Eagles are actually on pace to get PASTED worse than us, currently losing 28-0 with almost 8 minutes left in the first half.

Im watching that game: Philly somehow looks worse than the Skins did.

[bgforever]

Believe it or not guys, the Eagles are actually on pace to get PASTED worse than us, currently losing 28-0 with almost 8 minutes left in the first half.


IMAGINE< just when you thought YOU had it bad! The Eagles are getting whacked!!!!! 28-0!

[DoGood]

Im watching that game: Philly somehow looks worse than the Skins did.

So much for the NFC Beast.

[Joe-T]

Fluke...how else do you exlain a team going from the #2 offense in the league and coming off a 52 pt. performance to being shutout and looking horrible?

Becuase we ran up #'s against a crap team and belived our own press .With the way the Giants had been playing their D #'s were not true (misleading).We got soft and the coachs and the players are to blame we need to play evey single game like it's the last one , we didn't and the Giants and their coachs took full advantage of it .

[skinem]

But only if GW gets the D on track we have to stop the run first!!!!!

[garedskin]

After today's game, what do you think? Vote. Explain.
This is a public poll, so you WILL have to explain yourself.

Only way they can go is up.Just a horrible day for boths sides of the ball.The worst game I have ever seen a Gibbs led team play.I still think they where the better team but man the Mara death inspired them to play way above themselves.Hats off to the Giants they just kicked the living hell out of the Redskins today.Gibbs WILL have them ready next week against the Eagles that I am sure of.:Peace:

[Joe-T]

Only way they can go is up.Just a horrible day for boths sides of the ball.The worst game I have ever seen a Gibbs led team play.I still think they where the better team but man the Mara death inspired them to play way above themselves.Hats off to the Giants they just kicked the living hell out of the Redskins today.Gibbs WILL have them ready next week against the Eagles that I am sure of.:Peace:

I hope so , I want to see the IR report before I agree with you .

[wewantdallas]

The most difficult thing about this loss is just the way we lost, obviously. In this sort of statement game, with so much on the line, we said absolutely nothing, and that truly bothers me deeply about this team.

I wanted to see a hard-nosed, NFC East battle, like the old days, may the best team win.

This team has consistently turned the ball over all year (I shudder to think about what their TO ratio is right now) and their lack of passion today is truly depressing considering what this game meant.

What all this says on the surface is that this team is going the same place they've gone for years - straight into the heart of mediocrity.

But I refuse to accept that at this point. They HAVE shown many signs of improvement, especially on offense, but they've dug a huge hole for themselves in that they have to beat Philly to remain serious contenders in this division, and that's going to be a monumental task.

I'm always hopeful until the bitter end, but before today's game, I was actually COCKY for once. I'm always loathe to predict a big win, but I really felt like we were going to win big today. So, now it's back to just being, simply, "Hopeful." But "cocky" was nice while it lasted.

[chad101]

Fluke though the Skins were slightly overhyped via stats as oppossed to actual results.

Giants weren't losing to anyone today. Patriots have been blown out this year as well. SD crushed the Giants a few weeks back. It's all in how you rebound.

At least you guys have a season. Ours has been over for 3 weeks now.

[ryflan47]

I don't care what anyone else says. I am still a believer. Nothing will ever take away what happened on that Monday night. We played awful today. This Giants team IS overrated but they are a pretty good team. We could have beat them.

And 1 final note to go out on.
There is a reason we play 16 games a year, not just one. Sure this game could come back to haunt us, but our team is better than 8-8.

[inevitable]

I'm sure this game was a fluke, however with all the injuries we sustained today, and an incredibly tough remaining schedule with no bye-week, I really think our guys are going to peter-out.

My vote has nothing to do with our guys not wanting to win/not being coached well, etc. it has to do with them not being healthy. How can you fill in for so many spots?

[ryflan47]

I'm sure this game was a fluke, however with all the injuries we sustained today, and an incredibly tough remaining schedule with no bye-week, I really think our guys are going to peter-out.

My vote has nothing to do with our guys not wanting to win/not being coached well, etc. it has to do with them not being healthy. How can you fill in for so many spots?

Portis and Cooley returned to the game.

[Joe-T]

This Giants team IS overrated but they are a pretty good team. We could have beat them.



Two things ....
1)Maybe were the team overated ?

2)We didn't and we didn't even come close .!

[ryflan47]

Two things ....
1)Maybe were the team overated ?

2)We didn't and we didn't even come close .!

It was just one of those days. That's the best way for me to explain it. Sure, our numbers were a little bit inflated, thanks to San Fransisco, but we are still a good team.

[smoak]

forget the playoffs. forget the draft. forget life IMO.

this is the worst loss in a long time...

bartender, i need to keep 'em coming until my heart stops.

[smoak]

It was just one of those days. That's the best way for me to explain it. Sure, our numbers were a little bit inflated, thanks to San Fransisco, but we are still a good team.

based on what??? wins against the bears (at home) and niners?? this team is in a "must win" next weekend. if we don't respond, then we're toast.

[akhhorus]

Fluke though the Skins were slightly overhyped via stats as oppossed to actual results.

Giants weren't losing to anyone today. Patriots have been blown out this year as well. SD crushed the Giants a few weeks back. It's all in how you rebound.

At least you guys have a season. Ours has been over for 3 weeks now.

The way the NFl is, every team has a game like this.
Just right now: the Bucs are losing to the 49ers, the Eagles are getting crushed, KC is getting crushed by the Chargers and on and on. I'm upset about this game, but it is just one game.

[CapitalDefense]

Things are never as good as they seem(last week) or as bad(this week)so we fall somewhere in the middle.

This teams record falls somewhere between 9-7 and 7-9, if we continue to get blasted in the trenches defensively, more towards the lower win total.

Last year when people told GW he couldn't stop the run GW he was tooting his own horn after they succeeded. What now GW?

Phili can not run the football very well, my bet is that they will next week. They will give us a heavy dose of Westbrook.....:banghead:

[BigPlayJay]

This team is way better than last years and last years never got beat this badly.

They will bounce back and still make the playoffs at 9-7 to 10-6.

[Joe-T]

based on what??? wins against the bears (at home) and niners?? this team is in a "must win" next weekend. if we don't respond, then we're toast.

This was an NFC east game and thats what we can't aford to loose a div game .Plus as someone else pointed out we didn't play well at all today and only for the last 5 mins of the cowboys game .:banghead:

[akhhorus]

This was an NFC east game and thats what we can't aford to loose a div game .Plus as someone else pointed out we didn't play well at all today and only for the last 5 mins of the cowboys game .:banghead:

Yes, but the Skins have played well since 55:00 into the Cowboys game until today. Even in their two losses, they played well-better than their opponents. This was the first time the Skins were really beat.

[smoak]

This was an NFC east game and thats what we can't aford to loose a div game .Plus as someone else pointed out we didn't play well at all today and only for the last 5 mins of the cowboys game .:banghead:

b/c we aren't good yet. i'm going downstairs b/c i cant take thinking about it any more.; worst. "effort". ever.

[Joe-T]

b/c we aren't good yet. i'm going downstairs b/c i cant take thinking about it any more.; worst. "effort". ever.

agreed ,,,,,:banghead:

[akhhorus]

b/c we aren't good yet. i'm going downstairs b/c i cant take thinking about it any more.; worst. "effort". ever.

Smoak, relax. Its one game. We shouldn't have been celebrating as much over last week and we shouldn't be as depressed over this week.

[fent]

Smoak, relax. Its one game. We shouldn't have been celebrating as much over last week and we shouldn't be as depressed over this week.

is it possible for the entire fanbase to be placed on Prozac?

[ryflan47]

is it possible for the entire fanbase to be placed on Prozac?

We're going to find out. Let me know if they offer it to the entire fanbase.

[akhhorus]

is it possible for the entire fanbase to be placed on Prozac?

Prozac might not be strong enough. This is ridiculous. It was a bad loss, and the team looked like crap, but are we all going to moan for 6 days?

[sknz2856]

I feel this was a fluke loss. How many drops did we have today..I lost count. I'd be surprised if we had more completions than drops. The Giants emotions were definately a huge factor in this game. I truly thought it would be and wasn't surprised. For some strange reason the Giants are a different team when we play them in NY. I can't explain it. There defense becomes stout and they score points against us. It was a tough loss, but I'm not gonna go crazy over it. It was 1 game...albeit an important division game...it's nothing we can't overcome. Perhaps it was important to get beat up with the tougher part of our schedule coming up. After scoring 52...we might have gotten a little above ourselves as a team. I think this will be a nice reality check with Philly coming to town. We need to put this loss behind us, learn from it, and prepare for Philly.

[wewantdallas]

The team rises or falls based on what they do in their division. We're only 1-1 in the division, but that 1 win, as great as it was, wasn't that impressive overall.

Until this team kicks a division team in the arse, and kicks them HARD (and I'm not necessarily talking about a big point margin, just a physical beating), they are destined for mediocrity yet again.

This team needs to just shut up and show something. That should be their motto going into next week. Shut up and show something. I'm sick of all the talk, sick of hearing the lines like, "Well, how we bounce back from this loss will show a lot about this team," blah, blah, blah.

Shut up and show something.

Oh, and yes, Prozac would do nicely, thank you.

[ryflan47]

Prozac might not be strong enough. This is ridiculous. It was a bad loss, and the team looked like crap, but are we all going to bitch and moan for 6 days?

Probably.

[skinfanatic]

not a fluke. we've consistently had a fair amount of turnovers every game. the only thing we had going for us was the ability to move the ball. take that away and adios win. as for the rest of the season, i just dont know. im pulled in all directions. part of me thinks we'll learn from our mistakes and be able to right the ship. however, after watching the skins the past couple of years, the negative side thinks, here we go again. i swear, its hard to be a uva and a skins fan. every year we're a tease and some how manage to screw it up. this year is the first year in awhile where the skins have acutally looked pretty good. so maybe call me an optimistic realist. i am always hopeful and think that we could kick butt, however, it wouldnt surprise me if we do a nose dive from here.

[fent]

Prozac might not be strong enough. This is ridiculous. It was a bad loss, and the team looked like crap, but are we all going to bitch and moan for 6 days?

maybe we should listen to the words of this guy

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f2/Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg/180px-Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! What the heck happened to the Delta (SKINS FANS) I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my butt from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Pierce, he's a dead man! Smoot, dead!

[X-Factor13]

I put that it was a fluke loss. I don't care about how bad we got our butts kicked today, we are a better team than that. Coach Gibbs will refuse to let this team fizzle out and die. I still think that we are a playoff contender and we will win games when we need to.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

im not even gonna vote. cuz i dont know anything about this team anymore. i knew it, man. i knew it deep in my heart that all this talk about us being back and everything, all this talk is too early. ahhh man, this is hard to swallow. our defense looks horrible, and i dont know what to think now

[ryflan47]

maybe we should listen to the words of this guy

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f2/Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg/180px-Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg

Or the words of this guy
http://www.republicanvoices.org/braveheart.gif

I AM William Wallace! And I see a whole army of my country men (redskins fans), here, in defiance of tyranny. You've come to fight as free men, and free men you are. What will you do with that freedom? Will you fight? (12th man) Aye, fight and you may die, run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take away our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!

[Biggie]

Fluke. There was no effort or interest on the offensive side of the ball today, and that will beaten out of them.

[X-Factor13]

What i'm wondering is whether or not william wallace can be hired as a motivation speaker!

:lol1:

[redskin_rich]

Without reading any responses, I don't like the choices on this poll.

We got our butts handed to us today, no if, ands, or buts about it. That was a first class arse kicken'!

Where do we go from here?!?

Well, that was only game 7 for us, we have 9 left. Road game, blah, blah, division game, blah, blah.
Doesn't matter!

Something to remember folks, it doesn't matter how pretty or ugly a win is, it's still just a win or a loss.

We can bounce back, this next game is a statement game, IMO. We must beat the Eagles in our house....and get this bad taste out of our mouth.

I'm hoping that we got alot of our mistakes out of our system, we sure committed enough. We can go on and learn from today or we can dwell in doubt, I choose the former.
Let's get back on track next week!

Hail To The Redskins!!!

[akhhorus]

Without reading any responses, I don't like the choices on this poll.

We got our butts handed to us today, no if, ands, or buts about it. That was a first class arse kicken'!

Where do we go from here?!?

Well, that was only game 7 for us, we have 9 left. Road game, blah, blah, division game, blah, blah.
Doesn't matter!

Something to remember folks, it doesn't matter how pretty or ugly a win is, it's still just a win or a loss.

We can bounce back, this next game is a statement game, IMO. We must beat the Eagles in our house....and get this bad taste out of our mouth.

I'm hoping that we got alot of our mistakes out of our system, we sure committed enough. We can go on and learn from today or we can dwell in doubt, I choose the former.
Let's get back on track next week!

Hail To The Redskins!!!

A-***CENSORED BY SPENCE***ing-Men

[Rabid_Redskin]

I think this loss really comes down to, the Giants were extremely motivated and the Skins weren't... Here's the thing... in each of our first 5 games this season we were behind at one time or another. In the Dallas game we were flat out being dominated with the only bright spot being our defense holding Dallas to 13 points. In all of those close games, even the ones we lost, the Skins never gave up and somebody always inevitably stepped up to make a play that the other players could get worked up about. That never happened today...

There were a couple of positive plays for us today. In the first defensive series after getting gouged for a 57 yd run, Clemmons got a sack AND forced a fumble that just didnt bounce our way. In the second defensive series, the Giants have us on our heels and Harris (I think it was Walt) gets an interception in the end zone. Back to back series in the first two defensive series with 2 turnovers and one recovered. Major improvement over our previous games...

The Giants were playing with an intensity that I don't believe any team could have matched. Period.

There is a silver lining here: After being brutally embarrassed on national TV, Gibbs now has a very visceral motivational tool to keep this team angry and hungry to win... Gibbs just needs to start every game with "Remember NY"...

[HAWGZHEAD]

Fluke. No way us losing that bad reflects on the talent of this team.

[cmdlost29]

Hate to post this but I saw the writing on the wall weeks ago. The Redskins are entering it's toughest stretch of the season and unfortuantly will most likely win 2 or 3 more games this season. Just ask Akhorus, he knows I've predicted this fall since the beginning of the season, I point him out because he likes to remind me of this from time to time.

The Redskins are in a transition stage here guys, they found out what it was like to win and also what it was like to get it's teeth knocked in, in a two week span. Every winning team must first find it's identity and then learn how to win games. Once they learn how to win they then learn how to win consistantly. Once winning becomes second nature your dynasty's are born - Eagles and Patriots of recent memory.

The Redskins have a long way to go. You guys might believe that todays loss was unpredicted but the only thing that was unpredictable to me was the margin of loss. When you couple in the "win one for the gipper" that the Giants were dealing with, the fact that most visiting teams are losing games this season, and couple in the fact that we always split with the Giants year after year, it should come to no one's surprise that we would lose today. I placed a bet on todays game and won. I would trade that money for a Redskins win any day.

You can go ahead and disagree and beat up this Skins fan up if you'd like because I've been all over the world waving the Redskins flag proudly and can take redicule about my Redskins from anyone including Redskins fans. I know in my heart that the Redskins are my team and can judge them honestly. In answering the overall question, I believe that today will begin a losing streak for us. The Redskins are not going to be able to beat Philidelphia or the Buccaneers, we could beat the Raiders if we play very well, we cannot beat the Chargers, we could beat the Rams but they play much better at home then on the road - they beat Jacksonville today at home, we WILL beat the Cardinals, we will lose to the Cowboys because they are the best in the devision, we will beat the Giants and avenge todays loss, and if the game matters we will lose to the Eagles again. That's it folks, my prediction game by game. I sure hope I am wrong, very wrong and we win the rest of the schedule but I don't think for a minute that is possible.

I'm not trying to jump out the window on this team and committ fan suicide. I understand that turning things around takes time. We will have games like today but maybe just maybe the heart is beating loud enough that we can avenge today's loss next week. What is the most important thing about today's game I believe is that we need to learn from this. We need our team to look at itself in the mirror right now and decide if they are the team that blasted the 49'ers or the team that got destroyed by the Giants?

Our coaches need to figure out how to stop quicker RB's. Why is it that Tatum Bell ran all over us? Why is it that Barber walked all over us today? This is not a mistake people, we have real problems on this team. The sooner we admit that the sooner the holes can be fixed, honesty is what the team needs. It's very possible that this team could be 1-6 instead of 4-3, we need to not look at records or playoff hopes and instead simply be honest about itself and figure out how to fix the lines. Our QB is getting beat up, our RB cannot get going, our D-line cannot stop fast RB's, our Kicking game has blocking problems....the sooner we forget about all the division titles, winning records, playoff hope dreams and fix these holes the sooner the team will learn how to win consistantly.

Whatever the current squad decides about itself the fact is that the remaining schedule looks horrible to me with only one "gimmie" game the rest of the way. To think that we will have any better record then 8-8 when its over and done is to me to be thinking with your heart, and not your heads.

I've said since last summer and I believe this to be the case...the Redskins will finish this year out of the playoffs, next year if the coaching stays the same and we keep the same systems in place we will be in the playoff's perhaps deep into the playoffs. Turning this around is going to take time so stick by the Skins and it will pay off. This team is not ready for the next level until it fixes the holes. That's the way I see it.

[golongdude]

Fluke maybe in the score and imbalance of it.

But I can guarantee the coaches do not view it so much as a fluke but as a serious challenge to what type of attachments this team has. I know they won't blow it off as a 'fluke'. This is a serious calling out.

[nynate]

Fluke. Has to be. I've never watched a game where I felt everything, and I mean everything that could go wrong, did go wrong, where as just about everything that could go right for the giants, did go right. I will say this. Tiki Barber beat us single handly today. eli didn't beat us, shockey didn't beat us, and buress didn't beat us. We held everyone but Tiki to very modest numbers. Apart from that, it just seems like God giving Mara a huge welcome home party, and he got his one wish today. I'd not even watch film this week if I were Gibbs. Everyone knows they were horrible. Royal should be cut before they get to the airport. But we can't blame it on any one person, it was a team loss today, and everyone knows what needs to be done.

Gibbs is going to have these guys in a frenzy next week, If he doesn't, then we have no reason to even think about the play offs. If we bounce back and have a dominating win next week, this week could be a turning point for us. I hope so anyway...

[CowboyKilla]

I didn't really like the choices, but I went with rebound from "fluke" loss.
We just got our ass whupped in every phase of the game including coaching.
So I wouldn't call it a fluke. But we should rebound.
The team needs to come together and get determined to win.

[Ibleedburgundy]

the silver lining is that Philly got thrashed as well. Today it was as if the Redskins were playing with a greased ball.

I said fluke because I think our guys were not 100%. The players look lost in the 3-4. Warrick Holdman can't shed a block to save his life. Lavar is missing tackles left and right. Our LB's are not getting it done.

Also we had guys fumbling that don't usually fumble. Robert Royal and David Patten dropped key passes. Cooley dropped that one he got hurt on, Portis dropped an easy one-it was uncharacteristicly sloppy.

I think the Redskins rebound after a good week of practice.

[smoak]

Smoak, relax. Its one game. We shouldn't have been celebrating as much over last week and we shouldn't be as depressed over this week.

i wasn't celebrating that much last week... mor not more than any other win. it isn't opne week IMO. it was yet another in a long line of division loses. very depressing and prozac is not the answer. i'll go with whiskey and or rum.

[ryflan47]

very depressing and prozac is not the answer. i'll go with whiskey and or rum.

I can't.

[OCSKINSFAN]

I hope it was a fluke. Everything went bad, and by just about the entire team (though Royal was the worst) - fumbles, bad passes, drops, bad tackling, bad punts, bad punt coverage, bad pass protection, no running game, apparently not being up for the game, losing the physical battle, and you name it. Extremely dissappointing for a game that meant so much at this point of the season. I was particulary concerned that even when Brunell had time to pass, there apparently was no one open. However, the Skins were in all their previous games, including away games against tough opponents. Maybe it was their week for a letdown. It may also have been due in part to injuries, which at this point worries me the most about whether it was a fluke. How many key Redkskins are playing hurt and also not practicing (and not performing to their capability as a result). No matter what, the Skins have had a weakness all season with their front 4 being unable to apply a pass rush. Lately it also appears to be unable to stop the run (injury/practice issues?). Note - I believe Griffen was only in for 2 plays.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I think we'll rebound but fall short of the playioffs. I've been more than a little concerned with our bend but dont break D for a couple of weeks now. They seem to have a penchant for giving up big runs this year. Brunells play is much improved but he's only as good as the 5 guys infront of him. We have a lot of work to do, a lot more than many wanted to believe after the blow out win over the 49ers but just because we lost and lost bad to the Giants on the road doesnt mean our seasons over.

I think we will split with NY, Dallas and Philly when its all said and done. thats 2 more wins. We should also beat the Cards and Raiders so that would assure a .500 finish. I think 8-8 is the absolute worse we'll be, with 9-7 or 10-6 more than likely the best we'll finish. I think if we respond this week and beat the eagles we may be able to build some momentum and also take one from the Bucs since they are QBless now, the Chargers, while very good, are also beatable. And who knows which Ram team will show up but if we're playing well then we're the better team IMHO.

My point is that we shouldnt give up on the season just because of one bad loss, I think we might have been a little overconfident after the 49ers game and I dont think we'll have to worry about that happening again. Keep the faith guys.....I know I will !

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

where do we go from here? to the film room, to the practice field and to the treatment room, thats where. there is still 9 games left......

[sknz2856]

where do we go from here? to the film room, to the practice field and to the treatment room, thats where. there is still 9 games left......

And the way I see it...there's no reason we can't win all 9. Let's get home and get back on track. HTTR!!!!!! Beat Philly!!

[SkinsASchamps]

I said we win 2-4 more games but i dont believe it. everything being said today is in frustration but as i sat with my grandfather he said he had never seen a more embarrassing game. I dont agree or dissagree but right now this feels bad. Not to mention i lost a lot of money on the games today and i thought we were a "lock". im venting and ranting and raving but i know we can do better and we show it next week against a pitiful pass happy girly iggles team. GO SKINS.

[nicefellow31]

Giants are not 36 points better than us. We'll see them again 24 Dec

[BigPlayJay]

This was an NFC east game and thats what we can't aford to loose a div game .Plus as someone else pointed out we didn't play well at all today and only for the last 5 mins of the cowboys game .:banghead:

I am so sick of hearing about the Cowboys game. We won, period.

When we loose that way we don't get credit for it. I would take 16 victories like that one as long as they are victories.

[BIGSEF3]

I hate to say it, but I chose the 2nd option. We didnt just lose this game, we got OWNED. the only team we truly outplayed this season was san francisco. Sure, we won 3 other games, but by what? a combined total of 6 points. We are a team that is 4-3 that really is probably closer to looking like a 1-6 team. There is no excuse for it.

No team that can't score a single point against the SECOND WORST DEFENSE IN THE LEAUGE is going to make the playoffs.

And then theres the injuries. Theres no way Brunell isnt banged up as heck. Portis is playing hurt every game. Our offensive line has only had one really good game, and it was against SF and now samuels is probably going to be out for a while. We have injuries all over our defense.

I'm not trying to be a downer, but I just got smacked in the face by a little thing called reality today.

[Redskin Scott]

Anyone who's watched the NFL long enough has seen even dominant teams get taken out behind the woodshed and beaten over the backside with the switch. It's rare, but it happens and for any one of many sundry reasons.

That's what happened today to our squad IMO. A combination of miscues, bad luck, a breakdown in fundamentals and exectution, an opponent who had prepared better than we, and an emotional intangible for the home team all intersected and combined together lead to a thrashing that numbed the senses. It was awful to behold.

And yet, I doubt a soul here believes today's performance is an accurate barometer of the 'Skins as a whole or of each player as an individual. Our guys are much better than what we saw today, and we all know it.

Will we make the playoffs? I dunno, but I am certain we can beat Philly in our house and then take Tampa after that if we play well. We're 4-3 and have two winnable matchups before us, the next at our pad. It's not a stretch to see the Burgundy & Gold at 6-3 two weeks from now.

We need to correct the mistakes, put this behind us, and get ready for the games to come. It's all really up to our guys.

Scott

[hail2skins]

The team rises or falls based on what they do in their division. We're only 1-1 in the division, but that 1 win, as great as it was, wasn't that impressive overall.

Until this team kicks a division team in the arse, and kicks them HARD (and I'm not necessarily talking about a big point margin, just a physical beating), they are destined for mediocrity yet again.

This team needs to just shut up and show something. That should be their motto going into next week. Shut up and show something. I'm sick of all the talk, sick of hearing the lines like, "Well, how we bounce back from this loss will show a lot about this team," blah, blah, blah.

Shut up and show something.

Oh, and yes, Prozac would do nicely, thank you.What have they been saying? I was out of town for awhile.

[hail2skins]

Hate to post this but I saw the writing on the wall weeks ago. The Redskins are entering it's toughest stretch of the season and unfortuantly will most likely win 2 or 3 more games this season. Just ask Akhorus, he knows I've predicted this fall since the beginning of the season, I point him out because he likes to remind me of this from time to time.

The Redskins are in a transition stage here guys, they found out what it was like to win and also what it was like to get it's teeth knocked in, in a two week span. Every winning team must first find it's identity and then learn how to win games. Once they learn how to win they then learn how to win consistantly. Once winning becomes second nature your dynasty's are born - Eagles and Patriots of recent memory.

The Redskins have a long way to go. You guys might believe that todays loss was unpredicted but the only thing that was unpredictable to me was the margin of loss. When you couple in the "win one for the gipper" that the Giants were dealing with, the fact that most visiting teams are losing games this season, and couple in the fact that we always split with the Giants year after year, it should come to no one's surprise that we would lose today. I placed a bet on todays game and won. I would trade that money for a Redskins win any day.

You can go ahead and disagree and beat up this Skins fan up if you'd like because I've been all over the world waving the Redskins flag proudly and can take redicule about my Redskins from anyone including Redskins fans. I know in my heart that the Redskins are my team and can judge them honestly. In answering the overall question, I believe that today will begin a losing streak for us. The Redskins are not going to be able to beat Philidelphia or the Buccaneers, we could beat the Raiders if we play very well, we cannot beat the Chargers, we could beat the Rams but they play much better at home then on the road - they beat Jacksonville today at home, we WILL beat the Cardinals, we will lose to the Cowboys because they are the best in the devision, we will beat the Giants and avenge todays loss, and if the game matters we will lose to the Eagles again. That's it folks, my prediction game by game. I sure hope I am wrong, very wrong and we win the rest of the schedule but I don't think for a minute that is possible.

I'm not trying to jump out the window on this team and committ fan suicide. I understand that turning things around takes time. We will have games like today but maybe just maybe the heart is beating loud enough that we can avenge today's loss next week. What is the most important thing about today's game I believe is that we need to learn from this. We need our team to look at itself in the mirror right now and decide if they are the team that blasted the 49'ers or the team that got destroyed by the Giants?

Our coaches need to figure out how to stop quicker RB's. Why is it that Tatum Bell ran all over us? Why is it that Barber walked all over us today? This is not a mistake people, we have real problems on this team. The sooner we admit that the sooner the holes can be fixed, honesty is what the team needs. It's very possible that this team could be 1-6 instead of 4-3, we need to not look at records or playoff hopes and instead simply be honest about itself and figure out how to fix the lines. Our QB is getting beat up, our RB cannot get going, our D-line cannot stop fast RB's, our Kicking game has blocking problems....the sooner we forget about all the division titles, winning records, playoff hope dreams and fix these holes the sooner the team will learn how to win consistantly.

Whatever the current squad decides about itself the fact is that the remaining schedule looks horrible to me with only one "gimmie" game the rest of the way. To think that we will have any better record then 8-8 when its over and done is to me to be thinking with your heart, and not your heads.

I've said since last summer and I believe this to be the case...the Redskins will finish this year out of the playoffs, next year if the coaching stays the same and we keep the same systems in place we will be in the playoff's perhaps deep into the playoffs. Turning this around is going to take time so stick by the Skins and it will pay off. This team is not ready for the next level until it fixes the holes. That's the way I see it.I'm sorry but I can't take this post after reading this statement "with only one "gimmie" game".

[redwolf1218]

all i can say i seriously hope we got all that garbage out of our system.

[dukeuch]

I voted .500, my pre-season prediction. I don't see us beating many quality teams, and we play a few. I think we made an average team look great yesterday.

[Blind-sided]

I think they re bound ,this lose has to leave a bad taste in your mouth. I think they make a come back just like the niners did with T.B. , Washington will get another chance at the gmen until then. They better come out and play some pro ball instead of the sloppy ,non blocken ,non tackling, whatever the hell that was yesterday. Good football teams re group ,the bad ones fall apart now . So we'll see what kind of team we got here and now.

[smoak]

I think they re bound ,this lose has to leave a bad taste in your mouth. I think they make a come back just like the niners did with T.B. , Washington will get another chance at the gmen until then. They better come out and play some pro ball instead of the sloppy ,non blocken ,non tackling, whatever the hell that was yesterday. Good football teams re group ,the bad ones fall apart now . So we'll see what kind of team we got here and now.

I really hope you are right. The only concern that I have is that we a runniing into yet another buzzsaw in Philly with a LONG list of injuries. We need to get healthy and approach this as a playoff game. I truly believe if we lose, the team will start their annual fade. We must show some heart and come out and play physical football. Philly doesn't want any of this right now and they are ripe for the picking.

[BIGSEF3]

And yet, I doubt a soul here believes today's performance is an accurate barometer of the 'Skins as a whole or of each player as an individual. Our guys are much better than what we saw today, and we all know it.


It doesnt matter how if today's game was a fluke or not. It doesnt matter if our players are "much" better or not. This game destroyed the confidence our team had.This was the first game where they did not fight until the end.

Let me tell you, Joe Gibbs is going to have to perform a miracle to get this team beleiving again. Because if he doesnt, we will NEVER see this team play like it has the last 4 games before this one again. Just like the dallas game was a turning point that got this team gelling, yesterdays loss could be the turning point where this team falls apart at the seams.

If we lose to philly at home Sunday, our season is over. Gibbs has his work cut out for him. Gibbs is a great coach, but at this point, he's not the greatest coach of all time. If he can get this team turned around after such a terrible performance as that, and get this team to the playoffs, he deserves the nod.

[Patrick]

Yep ............ here's another thread with it's share of Doom&Gloomers and now we have profits who saw the writing on the wall weeks ago.

Unbelieveable - For those who want to take the negitive side to yesterday's game - YOU better look around the entire NFL this week. I'll bet the Tampa folks are high today and oh yeah, the Eagle fans are thinking they've got this division and the NFC all wrapped up - NOT!!!!!

Skins will rebound from this - bottomline. Nine games left with five at home!

[skinsdude]

Where do we go from here? I don't know right now; we will see after Sunday night. The game against the Eagles is now very close to a must win. I think we will rebound but I'm not sure to what degree. This game will take a while to get over, for the players and fans.

[EberKain]

We beat Dallas at Dallas, so until we lose a home game I think we are playoff bound. We recieved an important lesson this week, I hope our players and coaches come away with a new found intensity.

[Carmelo]

I went for redskins rebound. I've gotta believe. Like I said before, Wellington Mara was their 12th man out there, forcing fumbles, batting down passes that we though were drops and blocking our defenders that were trying to make tackles. I know, I know, it sounds nuts right... Well that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

[GibbsRules!]

This was one loss. One loss. I'd be dissapointed if we lost 16-13 in overtime as well. We lost, period. The Skins came out flat and ran into an emotional buzzsaw. Good teams have games where they come out flat on occasion. Happens in all sports. To use this game as a barometer and judge the rest of our season by this outcome is absurd IMO.

We kept talking about how the Giants had the League's 31st ranked Pass D and how we were #2 in total O and #4 in total D. Toss all those #'s out when you take the field. They don't mean bunk.

Blame in this case is across the board. Our coaching staff has its hands full now in trying to get the players ready for next week. Last weeks results should be completely downloaded. Learn from your mistakes, work hard in practice and focus on the next opponent. These guys are pros and know they dropped the ball and we'll see a more inspired brand of football next week. No use dwelling on one miserable performance.

It will take a lot more for me to not believe in this Coaching staff and team.

HTTR!!

[nynate]

THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!!!!!!THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


come on guys, it was a horrific loss, but it was one loss. Let's keep some perspective. Hopefully we'll never play that overwhelmingly bad again as lond as we all may live, but no one should be jumping off the bridge. I really think this could end up being good for us in the long run, because I don't think any player ever wants to feel this terribly again. Let's see where we are in a few weeks. It's funny because a lot of people on this web site are so reactionay, yet will make fun of the media for being the same thing. If we play good I read a million "We're winning the Super Bowl!!!" post, if we play bad, or lose I read a million "OH MY GOD!!!! We'll never win a nother game ever!!!!" post. People on this site really need to take a step back and look a the big picture. If we end up 8-8, that's an inprovement from last year, so take heart in that. Hopefully we win every game ever forever, but if we don't, especially if we lose one game, one game that the other team played thier heart, minds and souls out for thier dead owner, let's stop the doomsday post. Look at New Orleans, they played their guts out in week one, and then had such an emotional let down immediatly after that they've never recovered. What do the giants have left in the tank? Nothing is my guess. So let's congratulate them on a well played game, let them have thier moment, and look to next week which is a much, much bigger game then this week was.

All I'm saying is that if we improve from last year, then that's something. If we improve the next year, then we'll be even better. We're headed in the right direction, so let's give Gibbs our support in the good games, and the bad games, and yes, even this horrible game. We'll get there. MAybe it won't be right now, but we will, so let's have some perspective and stop killing ourselves everytime there's a bump in the road....

[redskn65]

I chose we will rebound but won`t make the playoffs. I see far too many things that haven`t changed since week one such as the same dumb penalties....the same Stupid turnovers. You just can`t win like that in the National Football League. Also I`m sorry to rehash this point again...but I don`t even want to see or hear the name Warrick Holdman when we have LeVar Arrington ready to play. It just makes no sense to me and until we learn how to protect against the run when we do blitz we are in for a long year. I still believe in Coach Gibbs and this team however even after seeing vast improvement this year I don`t think we will make the playoffs.Can someone plz tell me what David Patten brings to this team...all I see him doing is dropping catchable passes or being out jumped for a ball by a taller DB

[redwolf1218]

up. that's where we go from here. there's nowhere else to go but up.

we'll get them next time.

[Discalced]

Wellington Mara was their 12th man out there, forcing fumbles, batting down passes that we though were drops and blocking our defenders that were trying to make tackles. I know, I know, it sounds nuts right... Well that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

Amen. This was God's play.

[oldskinfan]

Anyone dissect the Gints wins?
home vs. Arizona
away vs. Saints (yeah, right) - in the Meadowlands
home vs. St. Louis
home vs. Denver
home vs. 'Skins

So the gints have gotten where they are by winning "home" games, usually crushing the opponent and getting turnovers. You don't think the NFL should feel a little ashamed if somehow the Giants win the division by 1 game and the "extra" home game made a difference?

If the skins take care of business at home (including the tough games), and we win one more road game, that's 10-6. And playoffs or not, that's still a great change from last year.

[skinfan43]

Fluke. Gibbs will learn volumes from this one, as will GW. I expect our real team the rest of the year, win or lose...

(BTW, a bit off topic, do some folks masquerade on this site as Skins fans, when they are really completely the opposite? Or worse, too weak to fess up to who they really are?)
That's just so messed up.

HTTR!!!!!!

[DoGood]

Anyone dissect the Gints wins?
home vs. Arizona
away vs. Saints (yeah, right) - in the Meadowlands
home vs. St. Louis
home vs. Denver
home vs. 'Skins

So the gints have gotten where they are by winning "home" games, usually crushing the opponent and getting turnovers. You don't think the NFL should feel a little ashamed if somehow the Giants win the division by 1 game and the "extra" home game made a difference?

If the skins take care of business at home (including the tough games), and we win one more road game, that's 10-6. And playoffs or not, that's still a great change from last year.

So technically, the giants have had 5 of their first 7 games at home? That hardly seems fair, but that 9th home game is killing me. One of the most rediculous things I've ever seen happen in the NFL. How can they be taken seriously when they put one team on a different playing field than all of the other teams (except the Saints, thats a shame.)?

If I see the giants capitalize on that extra home game if they haven't already, I don't know WHAT I would do.:devil2:

[Go redskins]

I think that we were still on the high from the week before and was not prepared for the emotions that the Giants brought to the game. Everyone may think I am crazy for saying this but I think that because of this whipping we will actually become a better team, that is if we did not suffer from any long term injuries. This team is still trying to identify it's charcter. I also think we have along way to go. Keep the faith :)

[DoGood]

I think that we were still on the high from the week before and was not prepared for the emotions that the Giants brought to the game. Everyone may think I am crazy for saying this but I think that because of this whipping we will actually become a better team, that is if we did not suffer from any long term injuries. This team is still trying to identify it's charcter. I also think we have along way to go. Keep the faith :)

I'm not going to call you crazy. Infact I want to appreciate your thinking and adopt it as my own.

Why all the negativity? Chill people. We got Joe Gibbs!

He's been through more adversity in football than I can imagine.

[skins111111]

Nov. 6 vs. Eagles ....................home....W#5
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers ...........tough
Nov. 20 vs Raiders................... home....W#6
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers ...............home....W#7 Dec. 4 @ Rams .................................W#8
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals ............................W#9
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys ...............home....W#10
Dec. 24 vs. Giants .................. home....W#11
Jan. 1 @ Eagles ........................tough

win at Home.....take a couple on the road.......11-5

[Smurf]

Nov. 6 vs. Eagles ....................home....L
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers ...........W
Nov. 20 vs Raiders................... home....W
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers ...............home....L
Rams .................................W
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals ............................W
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys ...............home....L
Dec. 24 vs. Giants .................. home....W
Jan. 1 @ Eagles ........................L

Maybe 9-7 but thats it.
I love the Skins but im not a HOMER.
We beat the Bears and it was not a good game.Dallas fell asleep on are team and we won with 3 minutes left in the game.Seahawks there kicker missed a field goal that would have won the game for them.SF dont have to say any thing about them they suck.
Offence has not got that much better Portis will have the same stats as last year.Brunell i will give you that one, he is playing better witch comes to my next point.Santana Moss the only reason are team looks better on offence he is why they have looked better but not even his big plays can get Portis going.

Deffence Losing Pierce was very bad for this team he already has 61 tackles and 2 INTs i think we only have 2 INTS all year.Plus he would be in a better system in Washington and his stats are pretty good in N.Y.Marshall has not played that great Holman we all know how he is playing.D-line we dont have s*** the line never gets pressure.We have 5 sacks from are line that is sad less than 1 a game.Corners after Springs what do we have a rookie that has not played the last 2 weeks and a crusty walt harris,and they keep getting hurt.We give up 1 or 2 big plays a game.Im just saying you can say what you want about are team being better than last year but how much better are they.I think at best even with my chart above 8-8 and the sad thing is we have NO first round pick.

P.S still pretty mad about the game yesterday so dont take anything personally.Still most of this is true.I also voted rebound but not enough to make playoffs.

[CowboyKilla]

The Playoffs!!!!!!

[smoak]

If we beat the Iggles, I think we are going to go to the playoffs. We can certainly beat any team on our schedule as long as we play like we did the first six games. We absolutely positively MUST beat Filthadelphia, then the only game that worries me is SD. We can beat dallass and we owe the Giants a butt-kicking (remember last season?).

One game at a time, but I'll feel pretty good if we can beat Filthy.

[dabro]

Most of the passes dropped were to wide-open, sure-handed receivers who almost never drop the ball. It was just one of those days that happens every once in a while.

[ryflan47]

If we beat the Iggles, I think we are going to go to the playoffs. We can certainly beat any team on our schedule as long as we play like we did the first six games. We absolutely positively MUST beat Filthadelphia, then the only game that worries me is SD. We can beat dallass and we owe the Giants a butt-kicking (remember last season?).

One game at a time, but I'll feel pretty good if we can beat Filthy.
There we go smoak! That's more like ti!

[RedSkinBrit]

Voted Fluke and we will rebound.NY was a BAD day at the office and Gibbs will make sure the Iggles pay for it.

[skins74]

Where do we go from here? I felt like jumping off a cliff. It was quite possibly the worst game I have ever witnessed the Redskins playing. However I think it was a fluke and we are going to whoop the Eagles arses!!!!:Padawan:

[silverspring]

It was certainly a fluke to some extent, every possible thing that could go wrong, went wrong.
But it has me worried. I don't understand how all our receivers were consistently dropping balls. Brunell suddenly looks like brunell of last year, in shell shock all game. Offensive line sure opened it up for them. Walt Harris was covering his guy from 7 yards out the whole game. Defense giving up big play after big play, i often feel like they lay down until they are in the red zone. Frost still has a weak leg. It was like the team was paid off or something.

Anyways I guess all we can do is see what happens this week and hopefully it was just a fluke, but I think that the giants exposed a lot of our problems that other teams will now be able take advantage of.

[ryflan47]

Nov. 6 vs. Eagles ....................home....L
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers ...........W
Nov. 20 vs Raiders................... home....W
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers ...............home....L
Rams .................................W
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals ............................W
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys ...............home....L
Dec. 24 vs. Giants .................. home....W
Jan. 1 @ Eagles ........................L


Honestly, I don't think we will drop 2 to the Eagles this year.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

Lossing this Sunday will be detrimental to our season.

http://members.cox.net/nomoredubbz/putmein.jpg

[ryflan47]

Lossing this Sunday will be detrimental to our season.

http://members.cox.net/nomoredubbz/putmein.jpg
It would hurt, but if we win 1 out of the next 2 we play, we would have a decent shot at the wild card. (Assuming we can get our act together).

[HAWGZHEAD]

I know this is off topic but everytime I see the title to this thread I start singing that song "Rock On" in my head and I cannot make it stop. "Where do we go from here? Which is the way thats Clear? Still looking for that bluejean, baby queen, prettiest girl I've ever seen, see her shake on the movie screen, Jimmie Dean, James Dean, Rock On.

Help!!

[redskin_rich]

I know this is off topic but everytime I see the title to this thread I start singing that song "Rock On" in my head and I cannot make it stop. "Where do we go from here? Which is the way thats Clear? Still looking for that bluejean, baby queen, prettiest girl I've ever seen, see her shake on the movie screen, Jimmie Dean, James Dean, Rock On.

Help!!
LOL, when I read the title I keep hearing that Alan Parsons Project song....

[HAWGZHEAD]

LOL, when I read the title I keep hearing that Alan Parsons Project song....Thats a little before my time, but just as bad I am sure lol.

[GWBlitzST]

Everything hinges on our O line and Portis actually being a running back and not just trying to "protect the ball," which he seems to have translated into "get a couple of yards and fall forward."

The defense is not good, but if they can get Lavar in there and get him to tackle waist level, maybe we could seal the leak in the weak side of our defense. It reminds me of the 99(?) season when we had NOTHING up the middle to stop the run, and our last line of defense was the Marvellous Disappearing David Terrell. The difference is instead of Terrell, we have Sean Taylor. Who by the way needs to step up his game and play smart football.

[ryflan47]

Everything hinges on our O line and Portis actually being a running back and not just trying to "protect the ball," which he seems to have translated into "get a couple of yards and fall forward."

The defense is not good, but if they can get Lavar in there and get him to tackle waist level, maybe we could seal the leak in the weak side of our defense. It reminds me of the 99(?) season when we had NOTHING up the middle to stop the run, and our last line of defense was the Marvellous Disappearing David Terrell. The difference is instead of Terrell, we have Sean Taylor. Who by the way needs to step up his game and play smart football.

The run defense is not good.
Somebody posted earlier that our pass defense is #1 in the league.

[LavarEatsBabies]

Anybody else watch the first few plays where dinosaur Ray Brown was in? Umenyiora just destroyed him and at one point put him on his back. Brown proceded to do a reverse-somersault. I pray that Samuels and Jansen are able to play this week.

[Itoolu]

I hope and pray that Im wrong but they build up my hopes just to break em down. Around .500 seems about right for a team that cant run or stop the run consitently.

[FanFromArizona]

But only if GW gets the D on track we have to stop the run first!!!!!

We need to learn to tackle and tackle with HEART, this was the first game I saw where WE GAVE UP...:cry:

[RedskinsUnited]

We need to learn to tackle and tackle with HEART, this was the first game I saw where WE GAVE UP...:cry:

I agree, we need to stop those long runs. Those are killing us! If we prevengt the long runs we are in good shape.

[BurgundyNGold]

I voted "rebound" but I would like to see a choice for "more of the same growing pains", because to me, that's what they are -- growing pains. We look like a serious contender one week and like a cellar dwellar the next. Gibbs is teaching this team how to win and that success is in the details. We'll get better, finish 10-6 and might make the playoffs. Since the Gints are likely going to finish at least that well, we might not even make the playoffs at 10-6.

[RedskinsUnited]

Dont fret. WE lost only lost one lopsided battle. I still believe we will make the playoffs as long as we dont play like we did against the giants. Dont use the last game as a marker to judge our beloved redskins. Only take it week by week on the fact that our team are fighting to the end every game except the fluke against the midgets.

[ryflan47]

Well we took one giant leap towards rebounding!!!

[cmdlost29]

I want to publically state that I was DEAD WRONG about this game. And I'm happy as a pig in stinky slop I was!!! We won tonight and it's the type of win I believe that can carry us to more wins this season. I'm offically changing my belief that we go from finishing 6-10 to finishing 8-8, a 2 game swing because of tonights win! We have gotten 2.....2 monkey's off our teams back this year beating the Eagles and the Cowboys! What a turn around from last season!! Sorry fellow Redskin faithful I was not believing we could do this but WE DID IT!! WE WON!!! HAIL BABY :Peace:

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

I want to publically state that I was DEAD WRONG about this game. And I'm happy as a pig in stinky slop I was!!! We won tonight and it's the type of win I believe that can carry us to more wins this season. I'm offically changing my belief that we go from finishing 6-10 to finishing 8-8, a 2 game swing because of tonights win! We have gotten 2.....2 monkey's off our teams back this year beating the Eagles and the Cowboys! What a turn around from last season!! Sorry fellow Redskin faithful I was not believing we could do this but WE DID IT!! WE WON!!! HAIL BABY :Peace:

Glad to see the attitude change. I was worried about this team but they obviously have character. As for the Skins record I think 8-8 is the worst that they will end up this year. But one thing is for sure we knocked Dr.Z's 4-12 prediction into the dumpster. Time to send a email to the blockheads at SI.

[ryflan47]

As for the Skins record I think 8-8 is the worst that they will end up this year. But one thing is for sure we knocked Dr.Z's 4-12 prediction into the dumpster.

I'm lovin it.

[bgforever]

Glad to see the attitude change. I was worried about this team but they obviously have character. As for the Skins record I think 8-8 is the worst that they will end up this year. But one thing is for sure we knocked Dr.Z's 4-12 prediction into the dumpster. Time to send a email to the blockheads at SI.

:lol1: just one look at the letter and they immediately go into a subject in the other conference (Colts at NE). The Skins took care of the one thing I really worried the most, Westbrooks bounces to the outside - he met up with LaVar, Washington enough to negate that. It was a game where everyone had to make key plays or else and mainly they did!

[RedskinsUnited]

I strongly believe we are a contender, especially after beating the " NFC's Elite", we still have to improve on preventing big plays and beating ELI and those pesky Giants. I say we finish 10-6 at worst.

[smoak]

Great win tonight. I was down on the team after the loss to the Giants because of the way we lost. It was the worst game I can clearly remember by a Gibbs coached team... It hurt, but we rebounded beating a really good Iggleteam that was mad desperate.

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

10-6 and a wildcard entry into the playoffs is where i see us ending up

[bgforever]

We work our guys more into the lineup in the next few games, Rogers, Evans, Jones,Clemons and we create different run setup from observations from tonight's game.

[smoak]

There we go smoak! That's more like ti!

Hey, I officially am not allowed to pick on you about the dallass game. I needed a pick me up and got it tonight. Strangely enough, I was very confident about the game... Even when we got down.

The Bucs will be a nice test because we are not a good road team...

yet.

[whitskins]

Where do we go? TAMPA BABY! Let's win another one!!

[ryflan47]

Hey, I officially am not allowed to pick on you about the dallass game. I needed a pick me up and got it tonight. Strangely enough, I was very confident about the game... Even when we got down.

The Bucs will be a nice test because we are not a good road team...

yet.

We're on similar ground now bud!
Great game for a pick-me-up too!

[vabeach_skinsfan]

The game against Tampon Bay will be a true gut check. Their ranked #1 in overall defense, 2nd in passing and rushing. But their offense is suspect, Cadillac looks like he's ready for an oil change, and Chirs Simms is far from validating the DNA test that he is actaul kin of Phil. It will be a tough low scoring game. But I do see us emerging as the victors on the Sabath, 17-10 again!