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danny's stogie
11-07-2005, 11:19 AM
I was just looking at the current standings and I noticed an absolutely amazing statistic.
The Packers currently have 1 win and 7 losses, but outscore their opponents 168 to 159. By comparison the other 1 win team, the Texans, have been outscored by a total of 109 points. All of the 2 win teams have been outscored by at least 50 points except the Ravens who who have been outscored by 44. Brought together the 1 and 2 win teams besides the Packers average a negative 79.29 point differential. I guess that's what one huge blowout can do for a crappy team, but this has to be unprecedented. I'm curious to see what the biggest win is in history for a 1-7 team and if this stat has ever occurred before.
Edit: Adding to the wierdness of this stat, no other team with a record of .500 or worse has a positive point differential. Philly and St Louis are the two .500 teams and both have a negative point differential. The team closest to being positive is the 3 and 5 Raiders who are even with 185 points for and 185 points against.
Redskin4Life
11-07-2005, 11:30 AM
I was just looking at the current standings and I noticed an absolutely amazing statistic.
The Packers currently have 1 win and 7 losses, but outscore their opponents 168 to 159. By comparison the other 1 win team, the Texans, have been outscored by a total of 109 points. All of the 2 win teams have been outscored by at least 50 points except the Ravens who who have been outscored by 44. Brought together the 1 and 2 win teams besides the Packers average a negative 79.29 point differential. I guess that's what one huge blowout can do for a crappy team, but this has to be unprecedented. I'm curious to see what the biggest win is in history for a 1-7 team and if this stat has ever occurred before.
Actually this does mean something for the Pack. If the Eagles were to cut TO today (which if I remember correctly would allow for half of his cap hit to be on this season, half next season), the Packers would be the SECOND team allowed to pick up his deal... first being the Texans.
The reason: they win the tie-breaker between the two.. which is the point differential. I'm pretty sure about this since that's how they do the draft and playoffs.
danny's stogie
11-07-2005, 11:32 AM
The reason: they win the tie-breaker between the two.. which is the point differential. I'm pretty sure about this since that's how they do the draft and playoffs.
I thought the draft was based on opponent winning percentage.
GeneralDisorder
11-07-2005, 11:41 AM
While we're on about tie-breakers...
How come the NFL has the Cowboys over the Skins in the Standings...?
They're both 5-3. And are level on division records (2-1). Yet the Skins are better head-head (14-13), and have a better NFC record (5-1 v 4-2)...
smoak
11-07-2005, 11:46 AM
Yeah, I hate that they list standing in alphabetical order in the event of ties. Stupid.
bwparker
11-07-2005, 11:50 AM
Yeah, I hate that they list standing in alphabetical order in the event of ties. Stupid.
I lament this too. We should move to Arlington!
IowaSkinsFan
11-07-2005, 11:56 AM
I was just looking at the current standings and I noticed an absolutely amazing statistic.
The Packers currently have 1 win and 7 losses, but outscore their opponents 168 to 159. By comparison the other 1 win team, the Texans, have been outscored by a total of 109 points. All of the 2 win teams have been outscored by at least 50 points except the Ravens who who have been outscored by 44. Brought together the 1 and 2 win teams besides the Packers average a negative 79.29 point differential. I guess that's what one huge blowout can do for a crappy team, but this has to be unprecedented. I'm curious to see what the biggest win is in history for a 1-7 team and if this stat has ever occurred before.
Edit: Adding to the wierdness of this stat, no other team with a record of .500 or worse has a positive point differential. Philly and St Louis are the two .500 teams and both have a negative point differential. The team closest to being positive is the 3 and 5 Raiders who are even with 185 points for and 185 points against.
Green Bay's point differential is deceiving. It is positive because of the 52-3 drubbing they laid on New Orleans. That's the only reason. And if GB loses one more game, they aren't likely to remain in on the positive side of this statistic.
danny's stogie
11-07-2005, 12:02 PM
Green Bay's point differential is deceiving. It is positive because of the 52-3 drubbing they laid on New Orleans. That's the only reason. And if GB loses one more game, they aren't likely to remain in on the positive side of this statistic.
Of course it's decieving...the only way it's statistically possible for a 1-7 team to have a positive point differential is to have one huge blowout win (or have 7 one point losses, which statistically speaking would never happen). I'm just a little suprised that considering how bad they've been the points given up hasn't caught up to the points scored yet.
Redskin4Life
11-07-2005, 12:56 PM
I thought the draft was based on opponent winning percentage.
I don't think they take into account strength of schedule until the LAST tie-breaker. I think the first tie-breaker is winning percentage; the next tie-breaker would be head to head (not applicable) than the winning percentage in division and conference (which I don't think these would apply since they're in different divisions and conferences). Then the next up is point differential...
The Skinsinator
11-07-2005, 01:32 PM
That is an amazing stat. I think the main reason is in their sole victory they hung a ridiculous amount on the Saints. They have also lost numerous close games. I wouldn't read too much into it however.
GWBlitzST
11-08-2005, 09:58 AM
Actually this does mean something for the Pack. If the Eagles were to cut TO today (which if I remember correctly would allow for half of his cap hit to be on this season, half next season), the Packers would be the SECOND team allowed to pick up his deal... first being the Texans.
Can you imagine TO in Green Bay! That would be comedy!
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