Sean Taylor WR [Archive] - hailRedskins.com Fan Board

hogs86

11-22-2005, 02:13 PM

IMO i think Sean Taylor could be the answer to our WR issue.Ok before you think this is a crazy idea.Just think about it.He is the best player on the team and Gibbs did use him at the start of the season in the redzone.I think he could do well.I would not use him on every play maybe 3rd downs or give him 10-15 plays at WR.So what do others think ??

BurgundyNGold

11-22-2005, 02:16 PM

He's got to be better than some of those scrubs we have.

HAWGZHEAD

11-22-2005, 02:16 PM

I think that every safety in the leagues mouth would be watering to get in a free shot at Taylor. I would rather see him go down making a huge hit on D than to see someone cheap shot him to the sidelines on a cross route.

Meatsnack

11-22-2005, 02:18 PM

golongdude

11-22-2005, 02:24 PM

Yeah, I'd love to see him get blasted by an opposing d-back and our defense then be without its free safety. :rolleyes:

And we all know how the defense fares without Taylor.

akhhorus

11-22-2005, 02:27 PM

I suspect we'll see him a bit in spot duty just to shake things up a bit, but I doubt Taylor's ankle issues would allow him to play WR more than 15 plays a game.

whistleandthumb

11-22-2005, 02:43 PM

I only see Taylor getting action in the red zone, and maybe special 3rd down circumstances. With our Defense playing as great (read: crappy) as it is, we really need ST back there making plays for us. Randy Moss was shut down last week soley due to ST's great play, and if he were to get injured playing WR, that would be a huge loss on Defense - - where he's needed most.

PA Skins Girl

11-22-2005, 02:53 PM

I like the idea.

akhhorus

11-22-2005, 02:55 PM

whistleandthumb

11-22-2005, 03:00 PM

With ST's jumping ability, on the 3rd & shorts, I would just throw it up for him.
Agree. Between ST and Cooley, you'd have to feel pretty confident that we could get the first... no?

hail2skins

11-22-2005, 03:02 PM

BTW, Sean's hit was #1 on the Jacked Up segment last night on ESPN

BurgundyNGold

11-22-2005, 03:04 PM

BTW, Sean's hit was #1 on the Jacked Up segment last night on ESPN
Did Lavar's place?

The Skinsinator

11-22-2005, 03:07 PM

It is tempting to let him go and there and try as depleted as our receiver situation is, but the reward isn't worth the risk with this issue. Our secondary needs all the help they can get. We just need to go with what we have then effectively address our receiver/end situation in the offseason.

hail2skins

11-22-2005, 03:07 PM

Did Lavar's place?Nope

BurgundyNGold

11-22-2005, 03:10 PM

Nope
I thought that was a pretty smacking hit. BTW, did you see Urlacher level Steve Smith after the Bears picked off Delhomme in the 1Q? Very ouch.

jonesy

11-22-2005, 03:12 PM

dumb idea, we need good recievers, if we are going to our safeties for offenseive help we are in more trouble than any of us thought

redwolf1218

11-22-2005, 07:32 PM

you missed a perfect opportunity to dig up a retro thread...

anyways i'm all for using Sean Taylor at receiver. he's got the kind of talent and physical stature/athleticism that no one can match up with on either side of the ball.

skinsfan811

11-22-2005, 07:39 PM

I like the idea...it's no more dangerous putting Taylor at WR than it is putting Moss at PR.I think he'd make major match-up problems, especially if we could get him on a LB (like Porter on Marshall).

This would help the play of Santana Moss and Chris Cooley also.I honestly don't see any downside...if he's your best player, you don't restrain him.If there's some questions about him getting hurt on O, he could just as easily get hurt on D.

Go for it Joe!!!

LATrueRedskin

11-22-2005, 07:39 PM

I suspect we'll see him a bit in spot duty just to shake things up a bit, but I doubt Taylor's ankle issues would allow him to play WR more than 15 plays a game.

True. Although I would love to see him in the redzone, especially inside the 5. Just throw it up to him, he has better hands than Robert Royal.

skinsfan811

11-22-2005, 07:40 PM

dumb idea, we need good recievers, if we are going to our safeties for offenseive help we are in more trouble than any of us thought

He's the most athletic player on the team.The move to put him at WR concerns you???I don't understand that.

redwolf1218

11-22-2005, 07:46 PM

He's the most athletic player on the team.The move to put him at WR concerns you???I don't understand that.
i believe he's one of the best pure athletes in the league. his height, weight and speed are distributed in rare fashion. i believe he could start and excell at wide receiver or running back, possibly even tightend, in addition to safety, linebacker, and cornerback. at safety, he can simply be avoided to take away his effect on the game, but at receiver, he could make an impact even if only as a decoy.

skinsfan811

11-22-2005, 07:50 PM

i believe he's one of the best pure athletes in the league. his height, weight and speed are distributed in rare fashion. i believe he could start and excell at wide receiver or running back, possibly even tightend, in addition to safety, linebacker, and cornerback. at safety, he can simply be avoided to take away his effect on the game, but at receiver, he could make an impact even if only as a decoy.

Exactly...so why are people opposed to the oppurtunity of putting him at wideout???

golongdude

11-22-2005, 07:54 PM

This fact that people are seriously considering this just shows how backed up to the edge of a cliff this team is in reality.

redwolf1218

11-22-2005, 07:55 PM

Exactly...so why are people opposed to the oppurtunity of putting him at wideout???
i guess they'd rather see Jacobs and Farris alongside Moss as the 2nd and 3rd wideouts, and when we go to 4 wideouts, ummm, wait, who else is there besides those? Not Patten, he's hurt...not Thrash, he's hurt too, so basically we have no receiver past Moss & Jacobs but Farris.

who would you rather cover, Farris or Taylor?

Biggie

11-22-2005, 10:08 PM

The problem is the gameplan, not the wideouts. We're in 3rd & longs far too much in the first place; risking a key player is not the answer.

Oh, and by the way, Moss on PR scares me too.

redwolf1218

11-22-2005, 10:14 PM

The problem is the gameplan, not the wideouts. We're in 3rd & longs far too much in the first place; risking a key player is not the answer.

Oh, and by the way, Moss on PR scares me too.
that does not scare me. if he's good at it, he should do it. we seem to have a revolving door at returns. we never used Desmond Howard on returns for fear of hurting him and it turns out that's all he could do in the NFL. i've never seen a team that uses a different guy on every punt or kick like we do.

becky

11-22-2005, 10:57 PM

I don't dislike the idea because he is incredibly athletic and he could probably jump over me when I am standing up straight lol.. however the idea of him getting injured because we tried to use him too much is petrifying. Remember our secondary minus ST in the Tampa game? Baaaaad idea. I wouldn't mind seeing him here and there, but let's take care of that ankle.

skins74

11-22-2005, 11:48 PM

It wouldn't hurt having him in there on key situations like vital 3rd downs and redzone opportunities. But we can't play him too much or he will get winded.

silverspring

11-23-2005, 12:16 AM

look the idea sounds good but there are two reasons why we shouldn't do it. First of all taylor still has a lot to learn and misses assignments. He hasn't mastered playing safety in the nfl/williams crazy schemes and needs to concentrate on that. Secondly he is already beat up and i think we all missed him when he was out for the tampa game and want to keep him on the field for the rest of the season. If he plays he is going to be a target.

redwolf1218

11-23-2005, 12:30 AM

i am so tired of all these posts about an ankle injury. anyone here ever had an ankle injury? you can play on it. he can play on it. i would love to see him at receiver, even with an ankle injury.

BIGSEF3

11-23-2005, 12:30 AM

too bad we couldnt afford to keep chump. he would jump at the chance to play WR and CB. If we end up getting rid of Lavar (and i'm praying we don't), it's going to make me wish we had kept chump.

redwolf1218

11-23-2005, 12:42 AM

i am sorry about the whole Champ deal but Williams would have loved to have Champ on defense.

BurgundyNGold

11-23-2005, 12:48 AM

i am sorry about the whole Champ deal but Williams would have loved to have Champ on defense.
Honestly, I think he's just as glad to have Springs. However, I get the feeling he'd prefer to have Smoot over Harris right about now.

Dept_of_Defense

11-23-2005, 09:40 AM

BTW, Sean's hit was #1 on the Jacked Up segment last night on ESPN
It was a great hit, but Porter still caught the ball. It would've been perfect if the ball would've been jarred loose.
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skins74

11-23-2005, 10:20 AM

i am so tired of all these posts about an ankle injury. anyone here ever had an ankle injury? you can play on it. he can play on it. i would love to see him at receiver, even with an ankle injury.

That's why the trainers have tape.

nynate

11-23-2005, 10:56 PM

If nothing else have him block down field for Moss... I'd love to see OTHER safties run for thier lives as he comes barreling down the field looking for someone to hit....

But if the situation called for it, I'm for it...

X-Factor13

11-23-2005, 11:28 PM

If he had been playing strong, injury-free ball at safety I would consider it. He just hasn't made the Sophomore leap in playmaking like I expected. Not to say he is a weak link but I think we all see the raw ability and he isn't at the level of a Brian Dawkins or Ed Reed right now, much less Ronnie Lott. Based on his physical ability, he should be in that company.

If he is all world at safety next year and it is coming easy to him, let him play WR. but not until then. It is hard to absord a single game plan for Sunday, much less two.

I don't wanna log another discussion or anything, but he is supposed to be in the same group as brian dawkins and ed reed in his second year playing pro ball? I think you're expectations are a little high man, just look at where reed and dawkins were their second years before you set the bar that high.

redwolf1218

11-24-2005, 12:01 AM

the guy had 44 td's on offense and over 100 tackles on D his senior year in highschool. the U of Miami decided to put him at safety, but he probably could have started on offense. i say get the ball in his hands and see what he can do. but then again, i always wanted to see Champ on offense too. Terry Robiske put him in there one time and he immediately scored a TD. i think Taylor could do that too.

Meatsnack

11-24-2005, 12:23 AM

I don't wanna log another discussion or anything, but he is supposed to be in the same group as brian dawkins and ed reed in his second year playing pro ball? I think you're expectations are a little high man, just look at where reed and dawkins were their second years before you set the bar that high.

Neither Dawkins nor Reed possess near his level of physical talent. I don't expect him to be the best safety in the league in his second year. I did expect him to make a big leap between his rookie and second years as most great players do.

GW continues to assert that he is catching up from missing the offseason program and I continue to believe it based upon what I see on the field. Based upon what he did as a raw rookie, I really expected more from him than I have seen. is he still very good? Yes. Is he close to what he could be this year? It is my belief that he is not.

Keino

11-24-2005, 01:25 AM

This fact that people are seriously considering this just shows how backed up to the edge of a cliff this team is in reality.

He lined up at WR in the opening game......I guess the team was backed-up sitting at 0-0

Keino

11-24-2005, 01:27 AM

Oh, and by the way, Moss on PR scares me too.

It shouldn't. It's something he's excelled at his entire career..

JakeIron

11-24-2005, 01:57 AM

How about using Portis a little more as a wideout and use Betts as running back... I think Taylor should not be used as WR since he's coming back from that ankle injury.

redwolf1218

11-24-2005, 08:56 AM

Honestly, I think he's just as glad to have Springs. However, I get the feeling he'd prefer to have Smoot over Harris right about now.
from what i've seen, losing Pierce might have been the bigger loss. that guy is still reading the plays before they snap it up in NY. Smoot was always hurt and he got burned a lot on slants.

Biggie

11-24-2005, 09:23 AM

It shouldn't. It's something he's excelled at his entire career..

What scares me is cheap shots.

IMALILTEAPOT

11-24-2005, 10:45 AM

we cant be scared about these things. i believe u put ur best players out there that can help u win. gibbs cant coach scared

redwolf1218

11-24-2005, 11:02 AM

i'd like to see both Moss and Brown back on punts and kicks, and Taylor at receiver once in a while. just hold onto the ball!

gibbs4pres

11-25-2005, 05:48 PM

Let's see......Moss, Cooley,Taylor, shift Portis in motion from 2 back 3 wide shotgun to 4 wide one back, Rock to stays in to block then release for the dump off. Who do you double?

redwolf1218

11-25-2005, 08:13 PM

Let's see......Moss, Cooley,Taylor, shift Portis in motion from 2 back 3 wide shotgun to 4 wide one back, Rock to stays in to block then release for the dump off. Who do you double?
that sounds good but you gave me an idea, how about Sean Taylor in motion into the backfield, and Portis to wideout? i just dont like the idea of Rock trying to block.

Syllable

11-26-2005, 01:41 AM

If he had been playing strong, injury-free ball at safety I would consider it. He just hasn't made the Sophomore leap in playmaking like I expected. Not to say he is a weak link but I think we all see the raw ability and he isn't at the level of a Brian Dawkins or Ed Reed right now, much less Ronnie Lott. Based on his physical ability, he should be in that company.

If he is all world at safety next year and it is coming easy to him, let him play WR. but not until then. It is hard to absord a single game plan for Sunday, much less two.

This is the same guy who was basicle single covering randy moss and shut him down for a game, the same guy who layed the smack to priest holmes, so bad that the ball flew out, the same guy who i dont remember being burned this year. Also the same guy who isnt walt harris. The truth is, he is a beast and the he showed it during the raiders game.