Antonio Brown signs

[PennSkinsFan]

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=12808

Antonio Brown signed, Lennie Friedman released.

[smoak]

Interesting that Friedman was released.

I am not an AB fan, but I wish him all the success in the world while in a Skins uniform!

[BurgundyNGold]

Did we at least keep Lennie's hands for AB? :D

[OCSkinzFan]

Hide the Butter!!:inkston:

[EberKain]

Did we at least keep Lennie's hands for AB? :D

I think his hands are alot better than we saw in the preseason, some guys have bad streches, and hopefully he is back on track. We know he can run like Moss, if he was to catch a couple bombs like Moss it could really be a shot in the arm to this Offense.

[BurgundyNGold]

I think his hands are alot better than we saw in the preseason, some guys have bad streches, and hopefully he is back on track. We know he can run like Moss, if he was to catch a couple bombs like Moss it could really be a shot in the arm to this Offense.
Nobody would like to see that more than me. However, all I've got to judge the guy on is his past performance. He fumbled returns and dropped like 5 or 6 passes in a row in the preseason. I'm resigned to thinking that he's just a big tease.

[Dept_of_Defense]

I think his hands are alot better than we saw in the preseason, some guys have bad streches, and hopefully he is back on track. We know he can run like Moss, if he was to catch a couple bombs like Moss it could really be a shot in the arm to this Offense.
Preseason? He fumbled in the first game against the Bears......he better hang on to the football. The last thing the Skins need is more fumbles in these critical last 6 games.
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[redskin_rich]

This was the best move the Skins could make. Brown is familiar with the Offense and can be inserted immediately. Now if we could just have him hypnotized to concentrate on catching the ball...

[BurgundyNGold]

This was the best move the Skins could make. Brown is familiar with the Offense and can be inserted immediately. Now if we could just have him hypnotized to concentrate on catching the ball...
Or maybe AB could check the David Blaine thread to see where his hands might've gone. Zing!

[Cowboys Suck]

Interesting that Friedman was released.

I am not an AB fan, but I wish him all the success in the world while in a Skins uniform!


I agree!! Hopefully, Brown's fumble in week one was an isloated event. He did a decent job in the three games he played in last year. Not to mention, the great 66 yarder to give the Skins great field position against the Vikes. I kinda wished the FO had maybe worked out a DB too. The DB that was recently cut by Denver, Walls, is still out there.

[akhhorus]

This was the best move the Skins could make. Brown is familiar with the Offense and can be inserted immediately. Now if we could just have him hypnotized to concentrate on catching the ball...

Brown is far from a solid player at WR, but he has speed. Enough so that teams at least have to worry about him going deep and can't choke up Moss with triple coverages.

[Spence]

Bad sign: Antonio Brown fumbled the pen when it was handed to him to sign the contract.

[PennSkinsFan]

Nobody would like to see that more than me. However, all I've got to judge the guy on is his past performance. He fumbled returns and dropped like 5 or 6 passes in a row in the preseason. I'm resigned to thinking that he's just a big tease.

He had one fumble. Portis has 4, Burnell has 5. I guess they should also be classified worse than butter.

[Cowboys Suck]

Brown is far from a solid player at WR, but he has speed. Enough so that teams at least have to worry about him going deep and can't choke up Moss with triple coverages.


His hands have to better than he displayed during pre-season. IMO, I don't think JG would have kept him around if they weren't. I think JG cut him to send a message to the team (alot of good that's done). His speed is definitely a plus, but he needs to step up and give the def a reason to look away from Moss. I mean, you can be a track phenom like the WR the Raiders had a few years back, but if you don't catch the ball consistenly, you're a non-threat.

[Spence]

He had one fumble. Portis has 4, Burnell has 5. I guess they should also be classified worse than butter.Portis and Brunell handle the ball all the time. Brown had a critical fumble in the only regular season game he played. Brown wasn't fired because of that fumble. He was fired because he'd looked so bad at wideout during the preseason that RS was the only position he could play. If that's all you can do for Joe Gibbs, you better not fumble the ball.

[See Michael Nelms.]

[Redskinfan28]

Bad sign: Antonio Brown fumbled the pen when it was handed to him to sign the contract.


:lol1:

[PennSkinsFan]

Portis and Brunell handle the ball all the time. Brown had a critical fumble in the only regular season game he played. Brown wasn't fired because of that fumble. He was fired because he'd looked so bad at wideout during the preseason that RS was the only position he could play. If that's all you can do for Joe Gibbs, you better not fumble the ball.

[See Michael Nelms.]

True. BUT Brunell worries the crap out of me. I actually liked what i saw in camp of Brown.

If Brown turns it over, he'll fit right in.

[GolfFreak]

I'm all for this siging, he gets a second chance to show the coaches he play this game. He knows he's on a short leash and will hopefully make the best of this situation.

[Battle Cat]

He had one fumble. Portis has 4, Burnell has 5. I guess they should also be classified worse than butter.
LOL He could fit right in with Brunell, Portis and Cooley instead of the big 3 the big 4 LOL. Just teasing he is a gamble with big play or bust potential but how we have been playing we need some athleticism and big play or bust no need to keep down this same conservative road.

[redskn65]

Here we are celebrating the fact the team has brought back Antonio Brown...wow.... excuse me for my own personal lack of joy. I know we need receivers badly due to our injury situation but outside of Santana the rest of these guys SUCK!! Taylor Jacobs, Antonio Brown,....don`t think I would lose much sleep the night before if I were a DB having to cover these two guys on Sunday.

[silverspring]

Here we are celebrating the fact the team has brought back Antonio Brown...wow.... excuse me for my own personal lack of joy. I know we need receivers badly due to our injury situation but outside of Santana the rest of these guys SUCK!! Taylor Jacobs, Antonio Brown,....don`t think I would lose much sleep the night before if I were a DB having to cover these two guys on Sunday.

Well I think I am going to celebrate the release of friedman. Why on earth him and raymer both made the roster confounded me. Like we really needed to waste 2 roster spots on 2 horrible back up centers that are both without any upside.

[IowaSkinsFan]

He had one fumble. Portis has 4, Burnell has 5. I guess they should also be classified worse than butter.

He had one fumble in what, 2 returns? That's fumbling 50% of the time. Portis had well over 200 carries before his first fumble, right?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Well I think I am going to celebrate the release of friedman. Why on earth him and raymer both made the roster confounded me. Like we really needed to waste 2 roster spots on 2 horrible back up centers that are both without any upside.

Friedman was a backup at all 3 interior line positions. Ray Brown should have been released before Friedman, IMO.

[LATrueRedskin]

We're not expecting Antonio Brown to actually catch anything, right? Riiiiiiiiiiight?

[IowaSkinsFan]

We're not expecting Antonio Brown to actually catch anything, right? Riiiiiiiiiiight?

Judging by how well we rush the passer, he could be touching the ball 5 to 6 times a game.....on KO returns.

[MoeRedskins]

The knock on Brown is that he has a lack of concentration when it comes to catching the ball, that is why he couldn't get a job as a WR in the NFL. Lets hope that changes. WR is one of those positions were players who get a second chance rarely screw it up.

[HAWGZHEAD]

So we went out and signed Ronnie Garvin again, I hope those hands have softened up.

[Skaggsrules]

Brown has the speed to get seperation, and his route running was improving, he just needs to concentrate and catch the ball, hopefully he used what little money he had to buy a ball shooter to help him catch passes while he was watching at home.

[IowaSkinsFan]

So we went out and signed Ronnie Garvin again, I hope those hands have softened up.

Nice NWA reference.

[Skinz4lyfe]

I like this signing too. He could provide a much needed spark on special teams. And since he does know the playbook I say we put him in the slot as well. His speed could help take some of the pressure off of Moss. I just hope Thrash lends his hands to Brown so that he can hold onto the ball this time.

[MoeRedskins]

So we went out and signed Ronnie Garvin again, I hope those hands have softened up.

Had to look this one up. Makes sense though. Here's the link for those who are interested. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Garvin)

[skins74]

:inkston:

[Dexter72]

I like this signing too. He could provide a much needed spark on special teams. And since he does know the playbook I say we put him in the slot as well. His speed could help take some of the pressure off of Moss. I just hope Thrash lends his hands to Brown so that he can hold onto the ball this time.

I agree; I think this is as good a signing as is reasonably possible. His hands are weak, but if the Skins use him right -- as a deep threat -- I think he can fill Patten's not so sizable shoes. He made some big plays in some big games at WVU. I think he will help to open it up for Santana, and the underneath stuff to Cooley, CP, and maybe even Taylor Jacobs. If Vermeil were his coach, Taylor would be getting a box of Pampers delivered to his locker.

[silverspring]

Friedman was a backup at all 3 interior line positions. Ray Brown should have been released before Friedman, IMO.

Good point. I could honestly do without all 3. I would rather be developing youth with upside. Maybe keep one like brown or friedman that can back up a couple guys.

[Dept_of_Defense]

Bad sign: Antonio Brown fumbled the pen when it was handed to him to sign the contract.
Haha. Nice
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[skinsfan811]

I guess his visit to FeDex was for a reason...I really like the move, and I support it 100%:awesomewo

[HAWGZHEAD]

Nice NWA reference.I thought some older wrestling fans would enjoy that one lol.

[DoGood]

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=12808

Antonio Brown signed, Lennie Friedman released.

Oh No!

[BurgundyNGold]

He had one fumble. Portis has 4, Burnell has 5. I guess they should also be classified worse than butter.
How did Portis have 4 funbles? I thought the 2 last week were his first all year? Oh, and I'm not letting Brunell off AT ALL about his fumbling. I'm just saying two things. First, with the year we're having, we don't need ANY help giving the ball away. And second, the Brunell numbers are with him touching the ball 50 or 60 times a game for 10 games. That's far different than only touching the ball on PR and fumbling once in less than one game.

I'm also factoring in AB's demonstrated difficulty catching the ball.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I thought some older wrestling fans would enjoy that one lol.

Thanks for bringing it up, it was a trip down memory lane. I remember when he turned heel and got his suitcase full of money, he was rubbing it all over his sweatty body....what a waste of bills.

[BurgundyNGold]

Well I think I am going to celebrate the release of friedman. Why on earth him and raymer both made the roster confounded me. Like we really needed to waste 2 roster spots on 2 horrible back up centers that are both without any upside.
Friedman also plays guard. Keeping him gave Buges some flexibility in there in case somebody got hurt.

[HAWGZHEAD]

How did Portis have 4 funbles? I wish they Were fun lol.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Thanks for bringing it up, it was a trip down memory lane. I remember when he turned heel and got his suitcase full of money, he was rubbing it all over his sweatty body....what a waste of bills.Lol, ahhh when wrestling was good.....

[BurgundyNGold]

The knock on Brown is that he has a lack of concentration when it comes to catching the ball, that is why he couldn't get a job as a WR in the NFL. Lets hope that changes. WR is one of those positions were players who get a second chance rarely screw it up.
Then he should really appreciate this, being his third chance and all.

[Biggie]

After watching Brown get hit in the facemask by a beautiful pass only four or five yards from the endzone, I will be holding my breath whenever he comes within 100 yards of the ball.

[BIGSEF3]

I like this signing too. He could provide a much needed spark on special teams. And since he does know the playbook I say we put him in the slot as well. His speed could help take some of the pressure off of Moss. I just hope Thrash lends his hands to Brown so that he can hold onto the ball this time.

on a side not reguarding a player to provide a spark on special teams, anyone else see who is the NFL's leading return man now?

[S.Taylor36]

The hits just keep on coming. Antonio Brown? Come on, he's like Featherstone from Necessary Roughness

[BurgundyNGold]

on a side not reguarding a player to provide a spark on special teams, anyone else see who is the NFL's leading return man now?
KR: Jerome Mathis (HOU), 32.0 avg.
PR: Mewelde Moore (MIN) 12.8 avg.

BTW, Chad "Too Pretty for Punt Returns" Morton has a 10.1 average. He never would've done that here. I suspect that getting cut by us, then being out of a job, then being picked up by the Pats, only to get cut and then to be picked up by the Gints might've served to awaken his Leon arse. We'll see how long it lasts.

[CapitalDefense]

Gibbs loves the guy.....before the case of the fumbles and now after

[BIGSEF3]

KR: Jerome Mathis (HOU), 32.0 avg.
PR: Mewelde Moore (MIN) 12.8 avg.

BTW, Chad "Too Pretty for Punt Returns" Morton has a 10.1 average. He never would've done that here. I suspect that getting cut by us, then being out of a job, then being picked up by the Pats, only to get cut and then to be picked up by the Gints might've served to awaken his Leon arse. We'll see how long it lasts.

How is it they they have averages of 32.0 and 12.8, yet CBS says it's morton. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9057798/2

Clark Judge should know 32 is more than 10.1. Or maybe his stats are based on total return yards vs. average?

[BurgundyNGold]

How is it they they have averages of 32.0 and 12.8, yet CBS says it's morton. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9057798/2

Clark Judge should know 32 is more than 10.1. Or maybe his stats are based on total return yards vs. average?
I don't know. I use the NFL.com statisitcs. I figure they're the most authoritative:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PNTRET/2005/regular

Maybe since Morton plays for the favored of the two New York teams, and since they might've run out of stories about Eli and dead owners to canonize, perhaps they've just taken to making stuff up now?

[silverspring]

I don't know. I use the NFL.com statisitcs. I figure they're the most authoritative:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PNTRET/2005/regular

Maybe since Morton plays for the favored of the two New York teams, and since they might've run out of stories about Eli and dead owners to canonize, perhaps they've just taken to making stuff up now?

Your avatar is freaking me out. is that your kid?

[BurgundyNGold]

Your avatar is freaking me out. is that your kid?
LOL, no. It's the angry baby that's floating around the internet. The baby goes even more retro next time. ;)

[silverspring]

LOL, no. It's the angry baby that's floating around the internet. The baby goes even more retro next time. ;)

ahh. well then i feel sorry for the parents cause that baby might be possessed

[redwolf1218]

i hope that he has stayed in shape. the fact that no one else signed him in all this time is not a very good sign about his talent though.

[Dolla Bill]

B&G, that is a hilarious avatar. Much props.

On the Brown signing....things are going to get very interesting the next couple of weeks. I know i'm gonna be holding my breath everytime Brown touches the ball, or has it thrown his way. The only way he will see the field is during KO/PR, and maybe the 4 WR set. I don't know if Gibbs will even have the 4 WR set until Thrash comes back.

[redwolf1218]

for straight speed, Antonio Brown is an improvement over Patten, and Patten kind of disappeared anyway. i'll be interested to see what he can do.

[ConradCountry]

It seems odd with the age concerns as the backup OL that Friedman was released.

[bgforever]

Brown is far from a solid player at WR, but he has speed. Enough so that teams at least have to worry about him going deep and can't choke up Moss with triple coverages.

This is what Indy did last season to a lot of teams! Marvin Harrison ran downfield about 15-25 yds almost every play, while James dashed 10-15 on carries and all other receivers numbers went through the roof. It works, but if he hangs on, we keep them guessing the whole game. Of course, it looks like Farris will get time split with Brown also.

[skins111111]

he's fast....1 fumble- give him a break....we need a return man and we can't afford to take chances with Moss at this time.........it would be nice if he could make ajustments to the ball and catch anything that came close to him.
we need a reliable reciever besides Cooley to go to when Moss is doubled,,,
I was very disapointed with Jacobs last week

[Dexter72]

he's fast....1 fumble- give him a break....we need a return man and we can't afford to take chances with Moss at this time.........it would be nice if he could make ajustments to the ball and catch anything that came close to him.
we need a reliable reciever besides Cooley to go to when Moss is doubled,,,
I was very disapointed with Jacobs last week

Somebody correct me on this if it is wrong -- but almost all of the drops he had in the preseason seemed to be on short slants, hooks, etc...Throws that have a lot of heat on them. I'm hoping that maybe it'll work if he is used almost exclusively on deep patterns where he has the ability to run under the ball...the Ricky Sanders straight-line speed type of routes that really kept defenses honest...he had some big plays at West Virginia, so hopefully he is capable of re-adding that dimension of the offense -- which was lost when Patten went down.

[redskin_rich]

Somebody correct me on this if it is wrong -- but almost all of the drops he had in the preseason seemed to be on short slants, hooks, etc...Throws that have a lot of heat on them. I'm hoping that maybe it'll work if he is used almost exclusively on deep patterns where he has the ability to run under the ball...the Ricky Sanders straight-line speed type of routes that really kept defenses honest...he had some big plays at West Virginia, so hopefully he is capable of re-adding that dimension of the offense -- which was lost when Patten went down.
He dropped all types, including a perfectly arced pass on a go route that would have been a TD. I still think that performance was an abberation though. I think he dropped one the week before that game but he was sure handed all through camp. All his drops were balls that were right in his hands and they all seemed to be concentration lapses. I really thought he was going to be a surprise player for us this year until his performance in that Ravens game.
Hopefully he has put that behind him and is relaxed and focused. He has a rare 2nd chance with the Skins, so hopefully he can man-up and seize the extra opportunity. Carpe Diem Antonio!

[ConradCountry]

Their has to be better options out there then Brown, what about Curtis Conway or another veteran.

I am scared about the WRs going into this game.

[redwolf1218]

Their has to be better options out there then Brown, what about Curtis Conway or another veteran.

I am scared about the WRs going into this game.
the thing is, we could use 2 guys. both Thrash and Patten are out. i doubt Farris is the answer, so where's Dyson?

[JoeDaSchmoe]

the thing is, we could use 2 guys. both Thrash and Patten are out. i doubt Farris is the answer, so where's Dyson?

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. You'd think we'd bring in the vet over some no-name scrub, but, hey, there are always a few of those "out of nowhere" stories in the NFL. Maybe this is one of them.

[redwolf1218]

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. You'd think we'd bring in the vet over some no-name scrub, but, hey, there are always a few of those "out of nowhere" stories in the NFL. Maybe this is one of them.
that takes me back to Gary Clark. if Farris turns out to be the next Gary Clark then that's great, but he's kind of a rare story.

[LATrueRedskin]

Judging by how well we rush the passer, he could be touching the ball 5 to 6 times a game.....on KO returns.

That makes me a little uneasy. Antonio would be great if he could catch the ball consistently and not put it on the ground every other touch. Nothing is worse in football then fumbling a kickoff immediately after the opponent has scored.

[redwolf1218]

That makes me a little uneasy. Antonio would be great if he could catch the ball consistently and not put it on the ground every other touch. Nothing is worse in football then fumbling a kickoff immediately after the opponent has scored.
at this point i get that sick feeling every time anything good starts happening, like the snake bite is just waiting to happen, so A. Brown on kicks and/or punts will be no different for me.

[ryflan47]

He wouldn't have been brought back if he dropped balls at the workout, so he must have done something right.

[redwolf1218]

he's fast but i'm just worried about him being about 5'-6 and 140 pounds. maybe with pads on he's not that fast.

[Biggie]

5'10", 172

He's about Santana's size.

[GibbsFan]

Good signing to me. Brown has speed that has to be respected. A KR, PR, or TD from him Sunday would do a lot for this team. Considering the direction we have been heading this is worth the gamble. The kid knows he has to perform or he will be out just as quickly as he was back. Some times this can be a good thing, Maybe this is one of them.

[redwolf1218]

He's about Santana's size.
there is no way that is accurate, and Moss is 5'-8, 177.