Robert Johnson

[hail2skins]

I feel we need to discuss this guy. One thing I'll say is that he's got size to him and from what I read, good hands too. It was funny seeing #87 out there catching passes. When he made that catch, several people turned to me and asked who was that and I told them Robert Johnson. rskinsfan10 was yelling it's Gardner. That was funny.

Anyway, I'd like to see this guy get more playing time. What do you think?

[skinswin]

We should give him a serious look. We need for someone to be consistant at the WR position other then Moss.

[RedskinsDave]

But I heard he sold his soul at the crossroads. (thats a blues reference for those wondering)

[hail2skins]

We should give him a serious look. We need for someone to be consistant at the WR position other then Moss.Uhh, he's a TE

[hail2skins]

But I heard he sold his soul at the crossroads. (thats a blues reference for those wondering)LOL, you're too funny.

[LATrueRedskin]

Hey, he's better than Royal. I'd like to see more of him solely on that fact. He's a better blocker and a much better receiver. Demote Royal (PLEASE!!!!) and put Johnson in there and see what he has to offer on a consistent basis.

[akhhorus]

But I heard he sold his soul at the crossroads. (thats a blues reference for those wondering)

His catch has been rambling on my mind for awhile.....

[RedskinsDave]

I feel we need to discuss this guy. One thing I'll say is that he's got size to him and from what I read, good hands too. It was funny seeing #87 out there catching passes. When he made that catch, several people turned to me and asked who was that and I told them Robert Johnson. rskinsfan10 was yelling it's Gardner. That was funny.

Anyway, I'd like to see this guy get more playing time. What do you think?

I want to see him more. He did something Royal didn't. He caught the ball.

[hail2skins]

I want to see him more. He did something Royal didn't. He caught the ball.YOu're absolutely correct. That last one was bad too. Not only should he have kept going to the sidelines but he should have proceeded to his car and left.

[MoeRedskins]

It was funny seeing #87 out there catching passes.

funny stuff.

Johnson should get a look strictly cause he can't be as bad as Royal has been the past couple of weeks. Hell, I've been as good as Royal the past couple of weeks.

[C-7]

Royal should be benched and he should be the starter. Period. Why waste any more time?

[RedskinsDave]

Royal should be benched and he should be the starter. Period. Why waste any more time?

The only guess I have is that Royal is the better blocker and we all know Gibbs will err on that side.

[IowaSkinsFan]

People named Robert are predisposed to success....Joe should make him the focal point of the offense.

[silverspring]

might as well see what he can do. He is still pretty young, he is big and i believe i remember people say he was blocking really well in pre-season. Sit royal on the bench and give him a game or 2 to show us something.

[rskinsfan10]

People named Robert are predisposed to success....Joe should make him the focal point of the offense.Sooooo, what's the problem with ROBERT Royal? (you left yourself wide open for that one....)

[IowaSkinsFan]

Sooooo, what's the problem with ROBERT Royal? (you left yourself wide open for that one....)

Doah!:doh:

I'm sure he's good at something.....and he hasn't been cut......yet.

[The Skinsinator]

Yes, Robert Johnson needs a real chance. Royal is for the most part ineffective and Kozlowski is fairly ineffective and certainly isn't young. We need to find out with Johnson the rest of the season. He may work out and we don't have to pursue a new tight end. If he looks like he won't, then we definitely know tight end is a position of need.

[CNYSkinFan]

Hgot size, speed, and practiced pretty hard during training camp. I thought he might make the squad. He has been on the PS until sellar's iunjury though and knows the playbook. John Keim kept saying in training camp that if he could catch he could be a star. I think he is worth at least a good loong lok in practice.

[Biggie]

Play the guy who can catch. Unfortunately, on this team, there's only one TE that can do that.

No, I do not mean Cooley.

[hail2skins]

Yes, Robert Johnson needs a real chance. Royal is for the most part ineffective and Kozlowski is fairly ineffective and certainly isn't young. We need to find out with Johnson the rest of the season. He may work out and we don't have to pursue a new tight end. If he looks like he won't, then we definitely know tight end is a position of need.I'm sorry but we have seen enough of Koz to make that decision. I know for sure that he was wide open on a play against the Raiders and Brunell missed him.

[Dolla Bill]

Johnson just looks like an OL, but with a little step and soft hands. Give him his try. There is absolutely NO way he could be worse than Royal.

[BurgundyNGold]

At this point, there is no way I'd throw the ball to Royal again. I yell at him like 2 or 3 times a game now. I think it's time to see what the new kid can do.

[ConradCountry]

He looked good and is a far better blocker then Robertl "Wiff" Royal.

[skins74]

Robert Johnson should be the starting TE and Royal should move to DE.

[Biggie]

Robert Johnson should be the starting TE and Royal should move to DE.

No, safety. No one would ever complete a pass to his side of the field.

[DoGood]

Absolutely. Whatever it takes to get Royal out of here.

[OCSKINSFAN]

Royal needs to be inactive for all the remaining games. His hands have had a head start. Johnson deserves a chance, especially with no Royal. My main concern with him is speed. He appeared a bit slow to me.

[ryflan47]

I agree with you, he's looking better than Royal out there!

[Biggie]

Royal needs to be inactive for all the remaining games. His hands have had a head start. Johnson deserves a chance, especially with no Royal. My main concern with him is speed. He appeared a bit slow to me.

We have more than enough speed in Portis and Santana. We need another solid possession reciever. If Johnson can run, catch, and block, he will be fine.

[Paintedbird]

The playoffs are much less than likely, let's try a few things that could help us big time in the future and invigorate us this season.

Robert Johnson at tight end
Nemo backing up Portis
Rogers to CB as first teamer
Clemons at DE
Keep Jacobs and Farris as two and three
Bring Wildes back

Stop sending Portis between the tackles
Pass 2 out of 3 plays
Attack relentlessly in fourth quarter
Pull Brunell when his play deteriorates
Pull anyone at anytime who doesn't play hard

Right now, we need a bunch of new guys who want to win jobs. The hell with the vets, most of whom look tired, if they can't produce

[Biggie]

I believe Wilds was cut and re-signed by the Panthers, so I guess he's definately gone.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Cut Royal. I like the idea of having Johnson, Sellers, and Cooley (FB) all in the game at once. Those three can all block and catch. Apparently Royal can't do either one. Anyone else seen him get blown up?

[Biggie]

Cut Royal. I like the idea of having Johnson, Sellers, and Cooley (FB) all in the game at once. Those three can all block and catch. Apparently Royal can't do either one. Anyone else seen him get blown up?

I try not to watch him unless absolutely necessary.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

I would rather have Kozlowski's old butt out there than Robert Royal. I wouldn't even let Royal keep his jersey after we cut him.

[OCSKINSFAN]

It seems unanimous on this Board, and I think completely obvious, that Royal should be out of the lineup if not off the team. That said, what are the odds that Gibbs will take this action?

[becky]

I agree, I want to see what he can do. Royal is seriously cutting into my berating-Walt-Harris time.

[OCSKINSFAN]

It seems unanimous on this Board, and I think completely obvious, that Royal should be out of the lineup if not off the team. That said, what are the odds that Gibbs will take this action?

Well I just read the Post online. My worst fears have been realized. Gibbs is sticking with Royal - he will still be the starter. That is a weakness of Gibbs. He likes a person (a "true Redskin") and will stick with him for that despite obvious non-performance. Need I remind everyone of how he stuck with Brunell last year despite everyone and his uncle calling for a change. How many more dropped passes/missed blocks/stupid penalties will it take before he sees the light?

[Redskinmayhem]

YOu're absolutely correct. That last one was bad too. Not only should he have kept going to the sidelines but he should have proceeded to his car and left.


man, thank GOD I didn't see the game. If I see RR drop one more pass I'm going to curse him so badly that his grandmother will hear it.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

It seems unanimous on this Board, and I think completely obvious, that Royal should be out of the lineup if not off the team. That said, what are the odds that Gibbs will take this action?

Yeah for some unjustified reason, Gibbs defended the performance of Royal saying that it could have happened to anyone. Come on Coach, don't insult our knowledge of football and misplace the blame of Royal's sorry butt. He's been screwing up all season long.........dropping TD cathces, false start penalties, 3rd down conversion catches. I mean what does this burger have to do to get cut. He's proven that he's not a reliable TE. He gets open but can't catch the rock.

[helimech24]

The playoffs are much less than likely, let's try a few things that could help us big time in the future and invigorate us this season.

Robert Johnson at tight end
Nemo backing up Portis
Rogers to CB as first teamer
Clemons at DE
Keep Jacobs and Farris as two and three
Bring Wildes back

Stop sending Portis between the tackles
Pass 2 out of 3 plays
Attack relentlessly in fourth quarter
Pull Brunell when his play deteriorates
Pull anyone at anytime who doesn't play hard

Right now, we need a bunch of new guys who want to win jobs. The hell with the vets, most of whom look tired, if they can't produce


I strongly disagree with you on this one.
It isn't time to call anything quits yet, for the offense needs to learn as much as it can about itself. Brunell will be the starter next year unless seriously hurt. Unless it is a blowout from team, Brunell should not come out the game.
RR needs to be replaced, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to start changing. Jacobs and Farris will keep playing no matter what because we have no else. And I don't think over all the loses I have seen guys not play hard.

[GWBlitzST]

It seems unanimous on this Board, and I think completely obvious, that Royal should be out of the lineup if not off the team. That said, what are the odds that Gibbs will take this action?
Based on his roster moves up until this point, I think Gibbs sticks with Royal for 2 more games, sees if he can lose one, and then goes with Kozlowski. We don't take kindly to new faces around these parts. Don't ask me why, but we always take WAY too long to make changes. It's pretty frustrating. I was calling for Johnson in preseason, and I think every knowledgeable Redskin fan knows the limits of Robert Royal's abilities. The ceiling is low, to say the least.

[higgybaby]

funny stuff.

Johnson should get a look strictly cause he can't be as bad as Royal has been the past couple of weeks. Hell, I've been as good as Royal the past couple of weeks.



You've done better, you didnt cost the skins a game.

[OCSKINSFAN]

Based on his roster moves up until this point, I think Gibbs sticks with Royal for 2 more games, sees if he can lose one, and then goes with Kozlowski. We don't take kindly to new faces around these parts. Don't ask me why, but we always take WAY too long to make changes. It's pretty frustrating. I was calling for Johnson in preseason, and I think every knowledgeable Redskin fan knows the limits of Robert Royal's abilities. The ceiling is low, to say the least.

Too long for changes - Brunell last year, and this year Holdman, Harris, and now Royal. How many games has that cost us?

[GWBlitzST]

Too long for changes - Brunell last year, and this year Holdman, Harris, and now Royal. How many games has that cost us?
Not to mention Lavar and the shotgun.

[Ibleedburgundy]

I don't know if I'm ready to fault coach Gibbs for sticking with his guy. There is something intangible a coach can create by showing loyalty like this. It's admirable. It might hurt the team in the short term but it may help the team in the long run, at least bonding-wise.

[WRSK1NS]

Sooooo, what's the problem with ROBERT Royal? (you left yourself wide open for that one....)
Maybe Robert Royal needs to go by Bob instead of Robert

[DEFENSEGURU]

Doesn't matter if Robert Johnson starts. Doesn't matter if Cooley and Robert Johnson line up as tight ends to start the game, doesn't matter if we trade for Gonzalez or Gates in the offseason, because Gibbs believes in giving everybody a chance to play.

When you spread the ball around to average or less than average players, you are always going to kill drives. This is why the Redskins offnese fails so consistently. They can have 8 positive yard plays in a row but when they get to a 3rd down and throw to Koz or Royal or another below average receiver, then the drive stops.

This is the same thing that has been happening over the last few years with drives being stopped by the center holding on a positive yardage play, or a guard false starting, or a tackle holding on a successful passing play. The mix of players is bad only because we have average to below average players at so many positions.

When you combine poor, predictable playcalling, then you are placing your players in a position where they can get beaten because the other team knows what you are going to do. When that happens, it becomes more likely your guys will hold, or false start, or make a mistake that kills a drive.

What people fail to realize is that the Skins could have won the last 2 games with a better tight end and better play calling. 2 simple things that don't even require an overhaul, or bringing in T.O. or even drafting a defensive end.

Just throw to Cooley instead of Royal and pass on first down instead of running right into the line on 1st down...and we win 2 games. That simple.

[joethefan]

I feel we need to discuss this guy. One thing I'll say is that he's got size to him and from what I read, good hands too. It was funny seeing #87 out there catching passes. When he made that catch, several people turned to me and asked who was that and I told them Robert Johnson. rskinsfan10 was yelling it's Gardner. That was funny.

Anyway, I'd like to see this guy get more playing time. What do you think?

If he can catch 2 passes he'e got the starting spot....:lol1:

[ConradCountry]

Lets see if Robert Ryal can play DE is not ship him out of town and give Johnson a shot.

[redskn65]

This guy Royal seems as though he can block which probably explains why Gibbs continues to support him however its obvious to everyone this guy can not catch.I saw Sunday near the end of the game where Brunell didn`t put hardly anything on the ball he just basically lobbed the ball softly to Royal like I used to do to my son when he was about seven and Royal dropped that too . I heard from some source that he was in the locker room crying after this game. I wonder if Coach Gibbs isn`t being too loyal in certain situations. Loyalty is good to a point but when it starts effecting an entire team and its having a part in putting a player on the field that just keeps dropping balls it can`t ever be a good situation IMO.

[Redskinfan28]

Uhh, he's a TE


:lol1: Not a good start to the conversation.

I saw him make one catch last week, which makes him a better TE than Royal.

[redwolf1218]

yes i want to see him play more. he's an inch taller, over 20 pounds heavier, and also faster than Royal.

SKIN Tight End HGT WGT Speed
47 COOLEY Chris 6-3.5_ 265_ 4.74
45 SELLARS Mike 6-3.0_ 268_ 4.67
88 ROYAL Robert 6-4.5_ 257_ 4.87
85 KOZLOWSKI Brian 6-3.0_ 255_ 4.89
JOHNSON Robert 6-5.5_ 278_ 4.78

[DEFENSEGURU]

He caught a pass on Sunday. Something that Royal was unable to do.

Clearly, you start the receivers who can actually CATCH the ball. Perhaps Gibbs doesn't believe in that, but at least that is what I would do if Snyder hired me.

[Dept_of_Defense]

yes i want to see him play more. he's an inch taller, over 20 pounds heavier, and also faster than Royal.

SKIN Tight End HGT WGT Speed
47 COOLEY Chris 6-3.5_ 265_ 4.74
45 SELLARS Mike 6-3.0_ 268_ 4.67
88 ROYAL Robert 6-4.5_ 257_ 4.87
85 KOZLOWSKI Brian 6-3.0_ 255_ 4.89
JOHNSON Robert 6-5.5_ 278_ 4.78
What are we waiting for, get Johnson out there! We should at least be rotating him in there to see what he's got.
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[vabeach_skinsfan]

We got to get Johnson out there. He can't be any worse than Royal. Atleast have him involved in the gameplan.

[DoGood]

He caught a pass on Sunday. Something that Royal was unable to do.
Clearly, you start the receivers who can actually CATCH the ball. Perhaps Gibbs doesn't believe in that, but at least that is what I would do if Snyder hired me.

On the whole this is true. But he did have a 3 yard rec. or so. Woo Hoo. He was hit immediately. On the other side, Robert Johnson caught a short pass and ran through contact and took it an extra 8 or 9 yards downfield.