Reggie Bush

[The Skinsinator]

Look, Reggie Bush is an amazing talent. Extremely atletic and electrifying. However, texas has more of an nfl defense than almost any other team in the nation and they made him come down to Earth. Sorry, the PAC10's defenses aren't going to cut it for me. Frankly, I think Bush would be best suited as a wide receiver/special teams returner than strictly an every down back. I feel he needs to put on some weight. I don't feel he's big enough to be an every down back and think Houston would be very wise to trade down. Bush isn't the answer to their numerous problems. Did last night's game change Bush's elite standing in the draft whatsoever?

[MWballer]

Bush needs to go somewhere where the coordinator will use him effectively all over the field.

[Axegrinder]

I think that the Texan's will trade down to take Vince Young if he comes out.
Bush will be a weapon wherever he ends up.

[BraveSkin76]

Look, Reggie Bush is an amazing talent. Extremely atletic and electrifying. However, texas has more of an nfl defense than almost any other team in the nation and they made him come down to Earth. Sorry, the PAC10's defenses aren't going to cut it for me. Frankly, I think Bush would be best suited as a wide receiver/special teams returner than strictly an every down back. I feel he needs to put on some weight. I don't feel he's big enough to be an every down back and think Houston would be very wise to trade down. Bush isn't the answer to their numerous problems. Did last night's game change Bush's elite standing in the draft whatsoever?

You would think so, Skinsinator. Quite noticeable that LenDale White was USC's best offense last night, garnering over 100 yards rushing. Reggie Bush seems to always be tryign to bust it outside. And I too share your sentiments about PAC-10 defenses (and really, the conference as a whole). I can't see him as an up-the-middle, every down back because of his lack of weight issue. LenDale White i think should be the first back any team in need of a running back cosniders. The way this draft will unravel come April 29 will be incredible. I can't wait.

[danny's stogie]

Look, Reggie Bush is an amazing talent. Extremely atletic and electrifying. However, texas has more of an nfl defense than almost any other team in the nation and they made him come down to Earth. Sorry, the PAC10's defenses aren't going to cut it for me. Frankly, I think Bush would be best suited as a wide receiver/special teams returner than strictly an every down back. I feel he needs to put on some weight. I don't feel he's big enough to be an every down back and think Houston would be very wise to trade down. Bush isn't the answer to their numerous problems. Did last night's game change Bush's elite standing in the draft whatsoever?

I agree. NFL defenses are too fast for the way Bush is trying to run. He's not going to be able to make 10 guys miss anymore and if he's a Texan and has to run behind that Oline and he tries to dance around like that and break outside on every play, watch out, he'll last 3 games. But he has undeniable skill, he just needs to be used correctly.

[smoak]

I was never sold on Bush, but then again I don't follow college football. Maybe last night was not a good indication, but I see him being similar to Westbrook, which is really good... but not Barry Sanders as some say.

[MONK_in_HOF]

I think Bush will be an every down back in the NFL. He has that elusivness where he doesn't get stuck straight on very often.
However, I think in the first half last night he was trying too hard to embarass UT defenders and make highlight plays. Instead of just following his blocking, hitting the holes, and taking what was there. I saw several plays where he left he blockers, ran horizontally, and made his options even more difficult, allowing for the UT D to either hedge him to the sideline or swarm.

[lakeskin]

One game. A Texas defense that geared its whole scheme around stopping Bush for a month. And he's all a sudden a worse back then Lendale White. Its this same mentality that fosters those Betts is better than Portis arguments.

38 points against a non Pac-ten school? They had 70 against an SEC defense this year. If it was a Pac-ten school they would have had 200 points their defenses are so terrible. The field is pretty level in college save for a few elite teams.

13 carries 82 yards 1 touchdown, 6 cathces 95 yards. :rolleyes: Horriblle. Against "more of an NFL defense". This man is a victim of his own skill level. The expectations are so high for this guy when he has a game like this it leaves everyone to come out of the woodworks and scream overrated. He didnt get 500 yards all purpose this game. He must be terrible.

Marshall Faulk and Ladanian Tomlinson played agaisnt such superior competition. Walter Payton too. Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss...

Just watch Bush. Watch his speed and quickness. The hands the explosion when he bursts into tacklers. The vision. Believe YOUR eyes. But go ahead and draft Lendale White ahead of him.

[BurgundyNGold]

Watching Bush play reminds me of watching a young Marshall Faulk at San Diego State. I expect the same kind of NFL career from him.

[The Skinsinator]

But go ahead and draft Lendale White ahead of him.I'm not suggesting that White be taken ahead of Bush. Bush is more talented undoubtedly. I'm just advocating that Houston trades down and gets more picks. And I still feel that Bush would be better as a receiver/special team returner. If he gets 25 carries a game, he can't be nearly as effective on returns. And he's got way too much upside if I'm an nfl team not to be used on those plays. I expect him to be a Dante Hall type just a much better offensive weapon.

[danny's stogie]

I'd definitely still take Bush over LenDale, but I think the talk of him stepping into the NFL and immediately being MVP is a bit premature. No player is that good, not even Reggie Bush. His agility and quickness are unreal, but if he runs the way he did last night then he's going to have a really hard time in the NFL. You can't make whole teams miss. You have to be able to take what's given to you. If you only can get 4 yards then take it, don't get stuffed for 0. So like I said before, it looks like he needs a coach who knows how to use him. Hand it to him 15 times, 4 or 5 screen passes a game, and try to get him involved in the passing game. Find ways to get him into open space.

[lakeskin]

Dante Hall? You're comparing Reggie Bush to Dante Hall? Is this Matt Millen? Matt please don't pick another reciever with the 9th pick. Please.

[MONK_in_HOF]

I'm not suggesting that White be taken ahead of Bush. Bush is more talented undoubtedly. I'm just advocating that Houston trades down and gets more picks. And I still feel that Bush would be better as a receiver/special team returner. If he gets 25 carries a game, he can't be nearly as effective on returns. And he's got way too much upside if I'm an nfl team not to be used on those plays. I expect him to be a Dante Hall type just a much better offensive weapon.

This is what many analyst were saying the Texans should/would do prior to Reggie Bush mania reaching its all time high. They need a lot of help on D and O-line. Plus when you consider their current RB is one of their best players, Bush may not be the best option for Houston. That is assuming they can trade down and get good value.

[lakeskin]

I'd definitely still take Bush over LenDale, but I think the talk of him stepping into the NFL and immediately being MVP is a bit premature. No player is that good, not even Reggie Bush. His agility and quickness are unreal, but if he runs the way he did last night then he's going to have a really hard time in the NFL. You can't make whole teams miss. You have to be able to take what's given to you. If you only can get 4 yards then take it, don't get stuffed for 0. So like I said before, it looks like he needs a coach who knows how to use him. Hand it to him 15 times, 4 or 5 screen passes a game, and try to get him involved in the passing game. Find ways to get him into open space.

6.3 yards a carry last night. If he runs like that an NFL team should just cut him outright. Lets ignore his ten yards a carry this ENTIRE year and judge him by just one game. A game in which he had 13 carries for 82 yards and 6 catches for 95.

[Paintedbird]

It was just one game and I've only seen Bush once so my comment probably isn't worth much, but I didn't see an outstanding prospect Wednesday night. He looked like a Joe Washington without the spectacular moves...maybe a guy who doesn't really have a position in the NFL, or a kick returner, maybe.
He looked too frail to be an RB and went down too easily. What he's got is speed and incredible acceleration. How to use him will be a problem.

[The Skinsinator]

How to use him will be a problem.Not reallly. Use him as a full time punt and kickoff returner. Offensively, either make him a receiver or a full time back. He could be an amazing receiver in the nfl. I like the receiver idea more. He could be lethal on long plays. Either way, I think Bush would really benefit from putting on about 10-15 pounds as long as it doesn't hinder his amazing speed/agility.

[Patrick]

Look, Reggie Bush is an amazing talent. Extremely atletic and electrifying. However, texas has more of an nfl defense than almost any other team in the nation and they made him come down to Earth. Sorry, the PAC10's defenses aren't going to cut it for me. Frankly, I think Bush would be best suited as a wide receiver/special teams returner than strictly an every down back. I feel he needs to put on some weight. I don't feel he's big enough to be an every down back and think Houston would be very wise to trade down. Bush isn't the answer to their numerous problems. Did last night's game change Bush's elite standing in the draft whatsoever?

Reggie Bush's #s from last night:
Rush: 13 carries / 83 yards / 6.3 ypc/ 1 TD
Recieving: 6 catches / 95 yards / 15.8 ypc
KO Returns: 5 / 102 yds / 20.4/return.

Texas didn't slow him down the USC coaching staff did - they didn't use him enough.

[3644Skins]

Bush won't be an every down back, he shared the load with White his entire college career. He's going to excel with a good counter-part in the NFL. He'll excel, but only with 10-15 carries, and receptions out of the backfield.

[smoak]

Reggie Bush's #s from last night:
Rush: 13 carries / 83 yards / 6.3 ypc/ 1 TD
Recieving: 6 catches / 95 yards / 15.8 ypc
KO Returns: 5 / 102 yds / 20.4/return.

Texas didn't slow him down the USC coaching staff did - they didn't use him enough.

Yeah, and he slowed himself down with that bright idea to pitch the football... Doh!

:D

[3644Skins]

I was never sold on Bush, but then again I don't follow college football. Maybe last night was not a good indication, but I see him being similar to Westbrook, which is really good... but not Barry Sanders as some say.

I agree, the Barry Sanders comparison is downright crazy. In my eyes Barry is the best back ever to play football. Even with a horrible line Barry got the job done. While Reggie makes some spectacular moves I don't see that ability in him.

[ihatedallas]

Look, Reggie Bush is an amazing talent. Extremely atletic and electrifying. However, texas has more of an nfl defense than almost any other team in the nation and they made him come down to Earth. Sorry, the PAC10's defenses aren't going to cut it for me. Frankly, I think Bush would be best suited as a wide receiver/special teams returner than strictly an every down back. I feel he needs to put on some weight. I don't feel he's big enough to be an every down back and think Houston would be very wise to trade down. Bush isn't the answer to their numerous problems. Did last night's game change Bush's elite standing in the draft whatsoever?

I agree, he played a legitamite D last night, and got contained. I still thinik he could be agreat back, but he doesnt have the consistency to carryu the ball 30 times a game. Lendale white sure did seem to have way better game against a great D, IMO.

I think it changed his "godlike" status...i think it whoed hes not going to come in and run the ball for a 8 yard average in the pros...in a way sometimes being in agreat college program hurts guys becuase when they enter the pros there so accustomed to everything being so easy and hits them like a rock...

[ihatedallas]

Reggie Bush's #s from last night:
Rush: 13 carries / 83 yards / 6.3 ypc/ 1 TD
Recieving: 6 catches / 95 yards / 15.8 ypc
KO Returns: 5 / 102 yds / 20.4/return.

Texas didn't slow him down the USC coaching staff did - they didn't use him enough.

amazing numbers but how much of that is sked from the long run before the pitch were he had about 30 yards? hed be averaging around 4-5 without that. Either way, holding reggie bush to a 6.1 average and only 80 yards with 10+ carries is way better then anyone else has managed to done...

[The Skinsinator]

Texas didn't slow him down the USC coaching staff did - they didn't use him enough.Why would you want to give him more carries however when he was being relatively contained and Lendale was blasting out 1st down after 1st down? They may have underused him very slightly, but I think mainly other than his td scamper Texas handled him very well.

[chrisbcbu]

Well, just as everyone thought he is forgoing his senior year and is entering the draft.

Now, is Houston going to pick him up or is it just smokescreen?

[Dolla Bill]

Man Chris, you sure are fast on this...heehee....anyways, the Texans said they were going to choose him irregardless.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2289825

[chrisbcbu]

Man Chris, you sure are fast on this...heehee....anyways, the Texans said they were going to choose him irregardless.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2289825

Yes i read that they were going to. But im wondering if they are being so strong about drafting him that it is a smokescreen to try and get someone to make a play for the #1 pick.

I think they will just pick him tho.

[MoeRedskins]

If Texans take young with the first pick, I think the Titans at 3 will be happy with however falls into their lap.

[CNYSkinFan]

This just in. Reggis bush declares for draft will report to Texas for duty....and George Bush from Texas avoids draft by going to Alabama. Story at 11 pm

[The Skinsinator]

No surprise here. He's doing the right thing. Too much opportunity and money to really pass up. Honestly, with all of Houston's needs I wouldn't be surprised if this was a smoke screen.

[HAWGZHEAD]

What are the Texans going to do with Domanick Davis?

[fent]

What are the Texans going to do with Domanick Davis?

trade him for an o-lineman??

[HAWGZHEAD]

trade him for an o-lineman??Yeah they probably should. Whoever gets him will be getting a decent back IMO.

[fent]

Yeah they probably should. Whoever gets him will be getting a decent back IMO.

he's more than an adequate back...he put up over 1000 on that awful team

[IowaSkinsFan]

Threads on Reggie Bush merged.