glad we won....but

[silverspring]

I am glad we won but we looked horrible.
First of all I think i want joe gibbs on a raw meat only diet this week because he needs to go out and win these games not just hold onto them. The playcalling was ridiculous. We aren't gonna beat seattle if we run it up the middle 1st down, 2nd down and then try to throw on 3rd and long like clockwork.

Second of all samuels got handled. THe offensive line looked bad especially samuels.

Third of all i can't wait to have springs back hopefully healthy.

Finally if sean taylor really spit in someones face at a playoff game as bad for us as it would be i would suspend him for a game. That just shouldn't be tolerated and I would rather lose then win as thugs.

I hope this is a wake up call cause we can't depend on our D to win us games the offense needs to move the ball.

[PennSkinsFan]

Offense was horrendous

[chad101]

A road play-off win is huge and hard to come by no matter how ugly.
There are no style points in January.

Congrats on the WIN.

[IHATEDALLAS'82'87'91]

We had the lowest # of yards on Offense for a winning team in the playoffs.

[2Cooley]

25 passing yards..... that is pathetic

[akhhorus]

I thought the Bucs defense really came with a philosophy of stopping Portis at all costs, and they did. They're also a great defense. The Skins can't play like this and expect to beat Seattle, but they won't be facing a defense as talented as this one.

[3644Skins]

I am glad we won but we looked horrible.
First of all I think i want joe gibbs on a raw meat only diet this week because he needs to go out and win these games not just hold onto them. The playcalling was ridiculous. We aren't gonna beat seattle if we run it up the middle 1st down, 2nd down and then try to throw on 3rd and long like clockwork.

Second of all samuels got handled. THe offensive line looked bad especially samuels.

Third of all i can't wait to have springs back hopefully healthy.

Finally if sean taylor really spit in someones face at a playoff game as bad for us as it would be i would suspend him for a game. That just shouldn't be tolerated and I would rather lose then win as thugs.

I hope this is a wake up call cause we can't depend on our D to win us games the offense needs to move the ball.

Lose the "thug" label, I don't think that's justified. How many people did Bill Romanowski spit on during his years without anything being said to him much less being called a thug. Even if he did spit the Ref saw Pittman hit ST in the face and only called a penalty on ST, that's wrong, especially when he was standing right there.

[hogs86]

I am glad we won but we looked horrible.
First of all I think i want joe gibbs on a raw meat only diet this week because he needs to go out and win these games not just hold onto them. The playcalling was ridiculous. We aren't gonna beat seattle if we run it up the middle 1st down, 2nd down and then try to throw on 3rd and long like clockwork.

Second of all samuels got handled. THe offensive line looked bad especially samuels.

Third of all i can't wait to have springs back hopefully healthy.

Finally if sean taylor really spit in someones face at a playoff game as bad for us as it would be i would suspend him for a game. That just shouldn't be tolerated and I would rather lose then win as thugs.

I hope this is a wake up call cause we can't depend on our D to win us games the offense needs to move the ball.


Wow !!We just played the #1 D.The Redskins won i rather win ugly then play pretty and not win.We are going to Seattle.:)

[Redskin006]

Horrific offensive performance and a lot of questionable playcalling and personnel decisions. But, the fact is we played the number 1 defense in the nfl, with one of the top defensive coordinators. So, I am not very surprised. I do believe that we will play much better on offense next week because Gibbs will make adjustments and have a better game plan.

However, loooking at how poorly we played on offense, this game showed me a lot about the Skins defense. We are an amazing defense who has matured throughout the season. They are doing everything they need to do to win games and are making the right plays at the right time. This defensive performance and its continuance throughout the playoffs with a little (actually a lot) better offensive performance will make us hard to beat in the playoffs. I give props to GW and the Redskins Defense specifically LAVAR, MARCUS, CGRIFF, SALAVEA, and DANIELS.

[silverspring]

Lose the "thug" label, I don't think that's justified. How many people did Bill Romanowski spit on during his years without anything being said to him much less being called a thug. Even if he did spit the Ref saw Pittman hit ST in the face and only called a penalty on ST, that's wrong, especially when he was standing right there.

Don't take it personally. I really don't care about the retaliation, if someone spits on someone retaliation is deserved, period. You can't do that in a playoff game, it demoralizes yourself, your team and your fans. It is a 15 yard penalty and a 1st down. I just hope this didn't really happen cause taylor is playing so well and I would hate to have to be so disappointed in him.

[bgforever]

I am glad we won but we looked horrible.
First of all I think i want joe gibbs on a raw meat only diet this week because he needs to go out and win these games not just hold onto them. The playcalling was ridiculous. We aren't gonna beat seattle if we run it up the middle 1st down, 2nd down and then try to throw on 3rd and long like clockwork.

Second of all samuels got handled. THe offensive line looked bad especially samuels.

Third of all i can't wait to have springs back hopefully healthy.

Finally if sean taylor really spit in someones face at a playoff game as bad for us as it would be i would suspend him for a game. That just shouldn't be tolerated and I would rather lose then win as thugs.

I hope this is a wake up call cause we can't depend on our D to win us games the offense needs to move the ball.


Michael Irvin agreed with you on the suspension. I am not so sure, because the opponent hit back and that doesn't make it right, no matter how wrong Taylor was. Justice was done in removing from the game, because there was a lot of game left. Also he is likely to be fined. This also doesn't help ST elsewhere. It ticks me off to see such a great on the field player have so many disciplinary problems, over and over. Just sad and sickening! JG doesn't deserve that either. If he does get suspended for another game, he can look in the mirror - period.

[GolfFreak]

Offense was bad but was against the #1 D in the NFL ... and BTW, Seattle is 17th overall.

[3644Skins]

Don't take it personally. I really don't care about the retaliation, if someone spits on someone retaliation is deserved, period. You can't do that in a playoff game, it demoralizes yourself, your team and your fans. It is a 15 yard penalty and a 1st down. I just hope this didn't really happen cause taylor is playing so well and I would hate to have to be so disappointed in him.

It's cool man, no personal feelings, just a little hype, we cool. I see what you're saying and I agree.

[lakeskin]

Look at it this way, we didn't show Seattle any of our offense. I'm sooooo not worried. Gibbs will right the offense. Whats that playoff record again?

[silverspring]

Look at it this way, we didn't show Seattle any of our offense. I'm sooooo not worried. Gibbs will right the offense. Whats that playoff record again?

Way to spin it!!!!!!:lol1:

[RedSkinBrit]

DEFENCE-take a bow,our O will improve against the Seahawks i am certain,the Seahawks D IS NOT A bUCS ONE.

[syphy]

Before we go crapping all over Mr Gibbs and his playcalling, there was a little thing that our offense faced in this game called the Tampa Bay Defense. By the way, are you aware that it's the #1 defense in the league?

We won. Celebrate or perhaps see if Snyder will hire you to replace Gibbs since some of you obviously are much better playcallers than a Hall of Fame coach.

I'm sick of seeing this kind of thing.

[nicefellow31]

I am glad we won but we looked horrible.
First of all I think i want joe gibbs on a raw meat only diet this week because he needs to go out and win these games not just hold onto them. The playcalling was ridiculous. We aren't gonna beat seattle if we run it up the middle 1st down, 2nd down and then try to throw on 3rd and long like clockwork.

Second of all samuels got handled. THe offensive line looked bad especially samuels.

Third of all i can't wait to have springs back hopefully healthy.

Finally if sean taylor really spit in someones face at a playoff game as bad for us as it would be i would suspend him for a game. That just shouldn't be tolerated and I would rather lose then win as thugs.

I hope this is a wake up call cause we can't depend on our D to win us games the offense needs to move the ball.

I don't care about all that. We got the win.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I am glad we won but we looked horrible.
First of all I think i want joe gibbs on a raw meat only diet this week because he needs to go out and win these games not just hold onto them. The playcalling was ridiculous. We aren't gonna beat seattle if we run it up the middle 1st down, 2nd down and then try to throw on 3rd and long like clockwork.

Second of all samuels got handled. THe offensive line looked bad especially samuels.

Third of all i can't wait to have springs back hopefully healthy.

Finally if sean taylor really spit in someones face at a playoff game as bad for us as it would be i would suspend him for a game. That just shouldn't be tolerated and I would rather lose then win as thugs.

I hope this is a wake up call cause we can't depend on our D to win us games the offense needs to move the ball.

Samuels won't face a better defensive end in the playoffs than the one he saw today. It will make him a better player.

I think the big issue is that we don't have a QB who can throw the ball downfield. We didn't even attempt one decent pass tonight. Not one.

I hope this playoff run is successful because I think this is Brunell's last hurrah. We are going to need either Ramsey or Campbell to play next season. We need a QB that can throw the ball downfield. We can't be the only team in the playoffs who can't throw the ball.

[EberKain]

Before we go crapping all over Mr Gibbs and his playcalling, there was a little thing that our offense faced in this game called the Tampa Bay Defense. By the way, are you aware that it's the #1 defense in the league?

We won. Celebrate or perhaps see if Snyder will hire you to replace Gibbs since some of you obviously are much better playcallers than a Hall of Fame coach.

I'm sick of seeing this kind of thing.

We run the ball on first down every series, every single one. I would just once like to see us run playaction on 1st down, we have it setup to work every game.

[nicefellow31]

Before we go crapping all over Mr Gibbs and his playcalling, there was a little thing that our offense faced in this game called the Tampa Bay Defense. By the way, are you aware that it's the #1 defense in the league?

We won. Celebrate or perhaps see if Snyder will hire you to replace Gibbs since some of you obviously are much better playcallers than a Hall of Fame coach.

I'm sick of seeing this kind of thing.

Agreed.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I thought the Bucs defense really came with a philosophy of stopping Portis at all costs, and they did. They're also a great defense. The Skins can't play like this and expect to beat Seattle, but they won't be facing a defense as talented as this one.

You can't allow a team to put 8 and 9 guys in the box to stop the run and not make them pay with the passing game.

I don't know whether it was the playcalling or the passer, but Brunell didn't throw any crossing patterns, no deep outs, no deep ins, no go routes, nothing over twenty yards that I can remember.

[OCSKINSFAN]

Today it was better lucky than good - the defense played great = A (athough that dropped pass in the endzone was lucky), but the offense an F, average C, not normally enough to win a playoff game, particularly away. I don't understand why Portis was out so often. I also have a serious concern about Brunell. He has not looked the same since about mid season. His last 2 games have been horrible. Is he playing injured? Remember, that is what happened last season and what it did to his performance. Hopefully if he is injured, he will be healed by next week or we don't stand much chance against Seattle.

[syphy]

You can't allow a team to put 8 and 9 guys in the box to stop the run and not make them pay with the passing game.

I don't know whether it was the playcalling or the passer, but Brunell didn't throw any crossing patterns, no deep outs, no deep ins, no go routes, nothing over twenty yards that I can remember.


Noone was open. #1 defenses tend to do that kind of thing.

[EberKain]

Samuels won't face a better defensive end in the playoffs than the one he saw today. It will make him a better player.

I think the big issue is that we don't have a QB who can throw the ball downfield. We didn't even attempt one decent pass tonight. Not one.

I hope this playoff run is successful because I think this is Brunell's last hurrah. We are going to need either Ramsey or Campbell to play next season. We need a QB that can throw the ball downfield. We can't be the only team in the playoffs who can't throw the ball.

Did you miss every game this year? He has had some good ones, hell Santana Moss leads the league in 40+ yard receptions. These last two games he has not thrown anything cause he is injured again, just like he was last year. If Brunell cannot use his legs to plant, he cant throw. I pray that he will heal up for next week, cause we are going to have to put up some points against the seahawks to have a shot at winning.

[silverspring]

Samuels won't face a better defensive end in the playoffs than the one he saw today. It will make him a better player.

I think the big issue is that we don't have a QB who can throw the ball downfield. We didn't even attempt one decent pass tonight. Not one.

I hope this playoff run is successful because I think this is Brunell's last hurrah. We are going to need either Ramsey or Campbell to play next season. We need a QB that can throw the ball downfield. We can't be the only team in the playoffs who can't throw the ball.

2 weeks in a row brunell's arm has looked pretty rough, his decision making has me nervous as well, he throws it away when he should be hitting his checkdown and tries to make something happen when he should be throwing it away. 2 weeks in a row also that he ran the ball once and made a difference. I think the pressure from the tampa D had a lot to do with it and the pressure might have been even worse then expected because our playcalling was so poor.
I don't know, there are 2 redskins offenses this season. Today we saw tha bad one. I hope the good one shows up next week.

[whitskins]

2 weeks in a row brunell's arm has looked pretty rough, his decision making has me nervous as well, he throws it away when he should be hitting his checkdown and tries to make something happen when he should be throwing it away. 2 weeks in a row also that he ran the ball once and made a difference. I think the pressure from the tampa D had a lot to do with it and the pressure might have been even worse then expected because our playcalling was so poor.
I don't know, there are 2 redskins offenses this season. Today we saw tha bad one. I hope the good one shows up next week.

I don't understand this at all. You think Brunell shouldn't have been throwing the ball away and should have been trying to make something happen. If I recall the one time he tried to "make something happen" he threw an INT deep in our own territory that could have cost us the game.

The entire offense had a rough game and it starts with the run game was completely shut down on early downs. I don't really know what playcalling has to do with it when you're just stoned constantly in early downs in the run game. Add in the pressure that Mark saw on every passing play and you have a clear cut recipe for offensive futility.

We were also playing a team that we handled offensively in the last meeting, so just like we did to them, they had a great gameplan that counteracted everything we tried to do. Our offense has been inconsistent all season, but it has had big games so I'm not too worried. Don't forget that Portis barely played as well. We also need to give credit to the #1 defense in the NFL.

I would have liked to drop 30+ points but there were a lot of factors involved and we still came out on top. That's all I care about.

[danny's stogie]

...at least the offense will be well rested for next week.

[whitskins]

You can't allow a team to put 8 and 9 guys in the box to stop the run and not make them pay with the passing game.

I don't know whether it was the playcalling or the passer, but Brunell didn't throw any crossing patterns, no deep outs, no deep ins, no go routes, nothing over twenty yards that I can remember.

Whenever Brunell has games like this it is often ignored that he is almost always under constant pressure. The Bucs front four was getting a great pass rush on every play and we were in 3rd and longs all day because the run game was stuffed on early downs. The exact same recipe has worked against lesser defenses because we run early with success and are able to better protect the passer. Let's not lose sight that we were playing one of the very best defenses in the NFL. It's not always just our players fault.

And as for Brunell's ability to throw deep, I recall seeing him hurl a 40+ yard pass and a 50+ yard pass just last week. The week before that he had another long TD. Week before that he had another 40+ yard completion. I give more credit to the Bucs D than I do criticism to our offense. Portis was injured throughout the game and they stuffed our gameplan by denying us the run game on first and second downs.

We did the same to them and they only had 10 points and I believe were able to better protect their passer on a consistent basis.

[clinton d]

...at least the offense will be well rested for next week.

lol

[LUVSKINSHTEDLS]

OK, 20+ or whatever yards against the #1 defense? Who's defense dominated? Yes, it was ugly, but it is a sweet feeling none the less.

As a Philly fan once told me , a WIN is a WIN is a Win!
HAIL!

[HAWGZHEAD]

I think the big issue is that we don't have a QB who can throw the ball downfield. We didn't even attempt one decent pass tonight. Not one.

I hope this playoff run is successful because I think this is Brunell's last hurrah. We are going to need either Ramsey or Campbell to play next season. We need a QB that can throw the ball downfield. We can't be the only team in the playoffs who can't throw the ball.Huh? Brunell has thrown deep many times this season. Do you mean Just tonight? Why don't you think Brunell can win for us next season? Where is all this coming from?

[bgforever]

Before we go crapping all over Mr Gibbs and his playcalling, there was a little thing that our offense faced in this game called the Tampa Bay Defense. By the way, are you aware that it's the #1 defense in the league?

We won. Celebrate or perhaps see if Snyder will hire you to replace Gibbs since some of you obviously are much better playcallers than a Hall of Fame coach.

I'm sick of seeing this kind of thing.


Agreed.
We definitely need to recognize that it was as much a suffocating defense as it was the execution of plays or play calling. Though I had my thoughts on a couple of runs, I was vindicated by JG doing exactly what I hoped the next series, when he still tried to get the ball downfield on deeper throws. It forced them to honor our WHOLE offense, even if we only got 1 inch per play. It kept it at just enough of something instead of nothing at all. I am learning the game still, after all these years, and the pro level is funnier than it looks. Both Gibbs and Gruden were playing to have the ball last. Of course you want to score, no doubt, but you also want to limit an opponent in a low scoring affair, by negating his chances.

again, I had a couple of moments there where I thought a pass would have better, but Cooley was really slow, Thrash is just beginning to get back to full speed, so Brunell was forced to make something from nothing on passing, because the run wasn't there.

[RoanokeSkin]

Look at it this way, we didn't show Seattle any of our offense. I'm sooooo not worried. Gibbs will right the offense. Whats that playoff record again?


I too feel confident about next week. We just layed an offensive egg against the best defense in the league and pulled out the win. We are going to have an outstanding week of practice and we are going to open it up on the Seahawks. I think we can do this.


I BELIEVE!!!

[Rabid_Redskin]

[QUOTE=3644Skins]Lose the "thug" label, I don't think that's justified. How many people did Bill Romanowski spit on during his years without anything being said to him much less being called a thug. Even if he did spit the Ref saw Pittman hit ST in the face and only called a penalty on ST, that's wrong, especially when he was standing right there.[/QUOTE


But Bill Romanowski WAS a thug. In fact he admitted to playing dirty in his autobiography in order to get in the heads of his opponents...

According to an interview with Gregg Williams, Sean says he never spit on Pittman. I think Pittman said he got spit on and Taylor was ejected based on his reputation alone. Regardless Pittman should have been tossed as well for the punch he threw.

I'd like to give props to Dan Snyder for coming out immediately and cracking open the checkbook in order to keep G. Williams in Washington. We (myself included) have often given him a hard time about not giving coaches time and trying to buy himself a ring by picking up flashy free-agents. But he's been very smart and patient these last two seasons. So props to Danny Boy... best 8million he's spent in a long time.

[danny's stogie]

Whenever Brunell has games like this it is often ignored that he is almost always under constant pressure. The Bucs front four was getting a great pass rush on every play and we were in 3rd and longs all day because the run game was stuffed on early downs. The exact same recipe has worked against lesser defenses because we run early with success and are able to better protect the passer. Let's not lose sight that we were playing one of the very best defenses in the NFL. It's not always just our players fault.

And as for Brunell's ability to throw deep, I recall seeing him hurl a 40+ yard pass and a 50+ yard pass just last week. The week before that he had another long TD. Week before that he had another 40+ yard completion. I give more credit to the Bucs D than I do criticism to our offense. Portis was injured throughout the game and they stuffed our gameplan by denying us the run game on first and second downs.

We did the same to them and they only had 10 points and I believe were able to better protect their passer on a consistent basis.

I thought I should reemphasize this point. The Bucs have a great defense, and they did a great job. They deserve credit. This is the same Skins offense that drops 35 in consecutive weeks against Dallas and NYG. Sure it's not the most consistent offense, but it definetly has the potential to turn it on at a moment's notice, so don't assume that next week is going to be a flop. As for now, everyone, enjoy the win. There's so much positive to take from this game that it's counterproductive to look at the negatives right now. Save that for the offseason.

[LUVSKINSHTEDLS]

In Gibbs we Trust. 'nuf said. This one was rough, expect the O to be ready to go next week.

[Rabid_Redskin]

In Gibbs we Trust. 'nuf said. This one was rough, expect the O to be ready to go next week.

Well said!

[Redskinfan28]

Our O should be well rested for next week.

[santanadasavior]

I just want you guys to remember this was teh number 1 defense in the league. When you face a team like that twice you're going to get handled. I just didn't think that they'd get handled to this extent. Does anyone know what happened to Portis because on TV they said that nothing happened but I didn't believe that for a second.

[whitskins]

I just want you guys to remember this was teh number 1 defense in the league. When you face a team like that twice you're going to get handled. I just didn't think that they'd get handled to this extent. Does anyone know what happened to Portis because on TV they said that nothing happened but I didn't believe that for a second.

He had a shoulder stinger, I heard him on a radio interview afterwards and he didn't sound too concerned about it but I'm sure it was a painful injury.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Did you miss every game this year? He has had some good ones, hell Santana Moss leads the league in 40+ yard receptions. These last two games he has not thrown anything cause he is injured again, just like he was last year. If Brunell cannot use his legs to plant, he cant throw. I pray that he will heal up for next week, cause we are going to have to put up some points against the seahawks to have a shot at winning.

Yes EberKain, I did miss every game this year...I didn't see a single one.

The team said he was healed, so he shouldn't be able to use that as an excuse.

If the leg is that much of a problem, then he shouldn't be playing. It is almost a detriment to the team.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

We need Portis healthy & the offence to improve or we aren't going anywhere against Seattle. Seattle has a much better offence than the Bucs so we can't expect our defence to rerpeat their performance.

And on slightly unrelated note:
The Broncos 1st rounder from us keeps getting LOWER AND LOWER!!!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Noone was open. #1 defenses tend to do that kind of thing.

That's a cop out. Playoff team have got to be able to throw the ball. Tampa was a good defense when the played New England. New England won 28-0. What's the rationalization there?

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

Yes EberKain, I did miss every game this year...I didn't see a single one.

The team said he was healed, so he shouldn't be able to use that as an excuse.

If the leg is that much of a problem, then he shouldn't be playing. It is almost a detriment to the team.
Completely agree. Brunell needs to pick it up or we're gone. I expect the offense to improve in Seattle because we aren't playing the league's #1 defence anymore.

[OCSKINSFAN]

I thought I should reemphasize this point. The Bucs have a great defense, and they did a great job. They deserve credit. This is the same Skins offense that drops 35 in consecutive weeks against Dallas and NYG. Sure it's not the most consistent offense, but it definetly has the potential to turn it on at a moment's notice, so don't assume that next week is going to be a flop. As for now, everyone, enjoy the win. There's so much positive to take from this game that it's counterproductive to look at the negatives right now. Save that for the offseason.

Hey I will take an ugly win over a good loss (a game we outplay the other team but still lose) anyday (we had 5 of those during the regular season). That said I believe the purpose of this website is open discussion including problems and potential problems, not just to bow down with congratualations. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled we won, but I think it's ok to discuss issues and strategy. That's a big part of the fun of this site. The fact is the offense laid an egg 2 games in a row and was saved by the defense. I know TB has the number 1 defense, but I don't believe any other offense during the entire season has done worse against it. Steve Young said he didn't remember the Skins offense making 1 play in the game. The offense, and particularly Brunell must improve for the Skins to advance further (hopefully Mark just has an injury which will be better by next week). 100 yards of offense won't cut it in 99/100 games.

[silverspring]

Yes EberKain, I did miss every game this year...I didn't see a single one.

The team said he was healed, so he shouldn't be able to use that as an excuse.

If the leg is that much of a problem, then he shouldn't be playing. It is almost a detriment to the team.

I agree completely. This would be the same story as last year, brunell wasn't reported as injured but played and now this year everyone said he was injured last year. If he is injured he needs to own up so he doesn't hurt the team.

That being said i really don't think he shoulders all the blame today, he was under some tough pressure and the playcalling was so predictable, #1 defense or #32 defense is gonna stop the running game if they know it is coming and stuff the box. IMO Portis and betts actually did pretty well considering the defense was always stuffing the box and we had no passing game at all. I want to see us throw the ball more on 1st and second downs. And really when you are 3rd and 10+ and a first down could end the game why do you run the ball?

[BandWagon]

I thought the Bucs defense really came with a philosophy of stopping Portis at all costs, and they did. They're also a great defense. The Skins can't play like this and expect to beat Seattle, but they won't be facing a defense as talented as this one.
Agreed. That Tampa defense was incredible. They were swarming and flying around the field. That coupled with how our defense played and the fact we were up by two scores, it really doesn't surprise me that our offensive production was so low. We didn't want to make a mistake, keep the clock moving, and with the way our defense was playing, why not? The Williams interview was interesting. They made a consciencious effort to allow them the dink and dunk offense, which ran even more time off the clock. It was nice to see them go right down and get that field goal back tho. We'll see what the O does next week. But don't discount what Tampa was doing....they were amazing.

[syphy]

That's a cop out. Playoff team have got to be able to throw the ball. Tampa was a good defense when the played New England. New England won 28-0. What's the rationalization there?

And we scored what? 33 on them the first time we played? They had plenty of game film to shore up the holes we exposed in that first meeting. As did our defense. They blanketed Cooley and Moss and shut down Portis. They're not the #1 defense because some schmuck decided to say it, they really are good and showed it today.

Well, our defense played an outstanding game, yet we got trounced by the Giants in the first game we played them. What's the rationalization there?

We won. Period. Be pleased that we are advancing to the next round. I swear, some people are never happy.

With all your wisdom, know-how and obvious armchair QBing/coaching ability, why don't you ask Snyder to hire you to replace Mr Gibbs in time for next week's game? If Snyder isn't to keen on that, maybe Mr Gibbs will let you start in place of Brunell. Cripes! You're a moderator and alleged fan of this team?!

[syphy]

Samuels won't face a better defensive end in the playoffs than the one he saw today. It will make him a better player.

I think the big issue is that we don't have a QB who can throw the ball downfield. We didn't even attempt one decent pass tonight. Not one.

I hope this playoff run is successful because I think this is Brunell's last hurrah. We are going to need either Ramsey or Campbell to play next season. We need a QB that can throw the ball downfield. We can't be the only team in the playoffs who can't throw the ball.

Yea, Moss set the team receiving yardage record with just under 1500 because we have a QB who can't get the ball downfield.

[WABronco]

25 passing yards..... that is pathetic

Yea, lol, that is pretty bad. I just about choked when I heard that...

[camasterton]

The guys who disapeared for me today were Cooley and Sellers. They didn't contribute to keep drives going. It is and has been painfully obvious that we do not have a #2 or even a #3 receiver yet the consistant third option to Portis/Moss has been our H-Back/Fullback tandem. Neither of these guys even got off the line today, never mind making a play! Hey Portis and Moss get a pass from me for effort, blocking and playing smart against a tough scheme. There were many instances where Brunell had time to throw, Moss was doubled and Portis was the only option, even after he had blocked somebody! Cooley and Sellers better stop reading their press clippings, stop peacockin' and play!

[tmac19]

ok i'm not taking up for the offense cause they did look terrible but they never really got in sync. think about it their first drive wasn't really bad but then the skins got the pick and scored the next play then the next drive tampa had the ball a while on a good drive then we scored of caddys fumble. i guess what i'm saying is they couldn't get into a good groove cause of how long they had the ball at first. But i'm not taking up for the o just trying to look at it from another angle.

[tmac19]

I agree completely. This would be the same story as last year, brunell wasn't reported as injured but played and now this year everyone said he was injured last year. If he is injured he needs to own up so he doesn't hurt the team.

That being said i really don't think he shoulders all the blame today, he was under some tough pressure and the playcalling was so predictable, #1 defense or #32 defense is gonna stop the running game if they know it is coming and stuff the box. IMO Portis and betts actually did pretty well considering the defense was always stuffing the box and we had no passing game at all. I want to see us throw the ball more on 1st and second downs. And really when you are 3rd and 10+ and a first down could end the game why do you run the ball?


i agree completly

[FanFromArizona]

I thought I should reemphasize this point. The Bucs have a great defense, and they did a great job. They deserve credit. This is the same Skins offense that drops 35 in consecutive weeks against Dallas and NYG. Sure it's not the most consistent offense, but it definetly has the potential to turn it on at a moment's notice, so don't assume that next week is going to be a flop. As for now, everyone, enjoy the win. There's so much positive to take from this game that it's counterproductive to look at the negatives right now. Save that for the offseason.

I also want to bring up this point, the offense DID score 7 points, they DID convert the first turnover [the Lavar Interception] into points, and we did it against the #1 defense in the league. So, yes, we did SOMETHING right, if we were horrible, we would have gotten either 3 or 0 points from the turnover.

[smoak]

Man oh man, I truly believe Skins fans ar einsane in the membrane! We went out and battled against the best defense in the NFL (in their house), and won!!!??

Would y'all be happier if we had put up 35 and LOST!!!!???? Get a grip folks!

[REDMAN]

Why can't we just enjoy the win. would we be happy if they looked like a well oiled machine and lost?

[smoak]

Why can't we just enjoy the win. would we be happy if they looked like a well oiled machine and lost?

Brother speaks the truth! The team did what they needed to do to win and stuff that questioning of Gibbs BS! His "conservative" play calling limited the Bucs opportunities! Great job Skins!

[redskin_rich]

I'm happy and have no complaints.

Go Skins!

[OCSKINSFAN]

And we scored what? 33 on them the first time we played? They had plenty of game film to shore up the holes we exposed in that first meeting. As did our defense. They blanketed Cooley and Moss and shut down Portis. They're not the #1 defense because some schmuck decided to say it, they really are good and showed it today.

Well, our defense played an outstanding game, yet we got trounced by the Giants in the first game we played them. What's the rationalization there?

We won. Period. Be pleased that we are advancing to the next round. I swear, some people are never happy.

With all your wisdom, know-how and obvious armchair QBing/coaching ability, why don't you ask Snyder to hire you to replace Mr Gibbs in time for next week's game? If Snyder isn't to keen on that, maybe Mr Gibbs will let you start in place of Brunell. Cripes! You're a moderator and alleged fan of this team?!

I just don't understand you guys. Is that all this site is supposed to be is for congratulations and cheering. Brunell and Portis clearly stated in their postgame interviews that the offense played poorly - didn't execute. I think we can discuss that, including reasons why that might have happened and possible solutions. We are all thilled with the win, but there is always room for improvement, and that is in my view a good topic for discussion.

[BigDaddySkin]

OCSKINS FAN......"Hey I will take an ugly win over a good loss (a game we outplay the other team but still lose) anyday (we had 5 of those during the regular season)."

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!

[inevitable]

I'm happy and have no complaints.

Go Skins!


Please, the world is coming to an end, Brunell threw for 25 yards, the Patriots put up 33 on the same team in a non-playoff game at their house, what could you possibly be happy about?

Sean Taylor proved he is the scum of the earth, our best defensive lineman broke his arm, Portis is a wuss who can't play through sore shoulders, and our head coach is a joke if he doesn't bench Taylor for his alleged unsportsmanlike conduct!

Our defense scored all our points, we're going against the best offensive team in the NFC, the team is lying about our QB's injuries with the intent of deceiving the fans, and Chris Samuels is a human sieve.

THERE IS NOTHING TO BE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT, forget we're going into the second round of the playoffs after a 6-10 year. there's plenty to complain about, and I won't take your absent minded optimism at this time of year.


Can I get a HELL YA ISF???

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

I am glad we won but we looked horrible.
First of all I think i want joe gibbs on a raw meat only diet this week because he needs to go out and win these games not just hold onto them. The playcalling was ridiculous. We aren't gonna beat seattle if we run it up the middle 1st down, 2nd down and then try to throw on 3rd and long like clockwork.


the thing is, the playcalling was the same as it has been for the last several weeks, with the difference being the offenses execution. tampa's defense came to play, as did washington's. the offense was torrific.....

....but we won! that means we have another week for the offense to get back on track and against a good team that plays well at home but they dont have the same defense as the bucs.

[BigDaddySkin]

Please, the world is coming to an end, Brunell threw for 25 yards, the Patriots put up 33 on the same team in a non-playoff game at their house, what could you possibly be happy about?

Sean Taylor proved he is the scum of the earth, our best defensive lineman broke his arm, Portis is a wuss who can't play through sore shoulders, and our head coach is a joke if he doesn't bench Taylor for his alleged unsportsmanlike conduct!

Our defense scored all our points, we're going against the best offensive team in the NFC, the team is lying about our QB's injuries with the intent of deceiving the fans, and Chris Samuels is a human sieve.

THERE IS NOTHING TO BE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT, forget we're going into the second round of the playoffs after a 6-10 year. there's plenty to complain about, and I won't take your absent minded optimism at this time of year.


Can I get a HELL YA ISF???

I'd hate to see ya if we lost!.........:) ...........we'll be ok Bro!

[skinswin]

I thought the Bucs defense really came with a philosophy of stopping Portis at all costs, and they did. They're also a great defense. The Skins can't play like this and expect to beat Seattle, but they won't be facing a defense as talented as this one.


Exactly. Last I checked, the bucs get paid to play too. We went up against the # 1 defense in football and they played like it.

But we have one of the best defenses in the league too and our defense was a play making defense today and that was superior to the steady,but not play making defense of the bucs today.

If the Seahawks think our offense is going to perform like that against their weak secondary, that's just the type of trap I want them to go for. Then we'll be in the NFC Championship game the week after.

[inevitable]

I'd hate to see ya if we lost!.........:) ...........we'll be ok Bro!

Hold on, I'm not done:

Brunell is a noodle-armed, washed up old man who is as likely to lead us to the Super Bowl as Michael Pittman is going to stop abusing his wife.

There is no way that after such a poor outing a hall of fame coach is going to make any adjustments. He clearly has no idea what is going on.

What?
The three decisive division victories at a pivotal time of the season?
Rubbish I say, the man is senile and oblivious to what makes a playoff team successful.

What?
17-5 playoff record and 3 superbowl victories?
Stop throwing your facts in my face, they're as meaningless as a Portis TD run or a defense that causes 3 turnovers, 3 sacks, and a plethora of batted balls.

No, No, I don't want to hear cliche's about defenses winning championships and about how the Redskin's D outperformed the #1 defense in the NFL.

Stop telling me that the Redskins front four have a legitimate shot of shutting down Shaun Alexander. He's the NFL MVP and can't be stopped.

What? He only had 98 yards against us the first time around?

Pish-Posh, that was Holmgren's fault, he only ran him 20 times.

What? the Redskins won that game?
Only because it was at home, and this team is dreadful on the road.

What? They're above .500 on the road? Oh, well its playoff time, regular season stats don't matter.

What? They're 1-0 in the playoffs?

Oh, ok. So the Redskins do have a shot this week. The ship isn't sinking?

Good, glad we got that sorted out.

[whitskins]

the thing is, the playcalling was the same as it has been for the last several weeks, with the difference being the offenses execution. tampa's defense came to play, as did washington's. the offense was torrific.....

....but we won! that means we have another week for the offense to get back on track and against a good team that plays well at home but they dont have the same defense as the bucs.

You know Lady, good people like you keep saying this, but some people just can't understand it.

It's amazing that everytime our team scores 30+ points there's a collection of fans who say "I knew it! We should have just been calling these great plays". Then we struggle against an elite defense and they say "What happened? The playcalling sucks again!"

It's getting so old to hear, it all comes back to execution and we got stopped all day today to the #1 D in the NFL in their house. It happens, but we won, that's all I care about.

[colkurtz]

The conservative playcalling is giving us trouble now because we are playing good defenses. Run, run, pass, punt in series after series gets you a 125 yd offense.

I'm very happy we won, but seriously wonder if our defense and luck will continue to win us games in the playoffs.

[SeahawksRule]

Your team has no class. Who spits on people???? Maybe you should draft young Vick also...

Seattle will stomp on you Saturday

[colkurtz]

Your team has no class. Who spits on people???? Maybe you should draft young Vick also...

Seattle will stomp on you Saturday

I suggest you start typing faster. This is a good fan site for folks who want to talk real football. If you're going to be a troll you won't last long on this site...............

[ryflan47]

Your team has no class. Who spits on people???? Maybe you should draft young Vick also...

Seattle will stomp on you Saturday
Hmm. Speaking of classless... [enter SeahawksRule]
You're a guest here, act with class.
We don't welcome your type here,http://z.about.com/d/collectdolls/1/0/l/G/troll.jpg

[RedskinsReaper21]

You guys have to remember that we went up 14-0 early. That, combined with the fact that the Bucs D was definately on, led the coaching staff to call a conservative offensive game. They knew it was going to come down to who makes the most mistakes and obviously it worked...we won. We're going to Seattle next week! HTTR!

[ernie0326]

That's a cop out. Playoff team have got to be able to throw the ball. Tampa was a good defense when the played New England. New England won 28-0. What's the rationalization there?
You know what? I wouldn't give a rat's *booty* if my 'skins came out and beat Seattle 13-10 next week. The main word is to WIN...BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!! PERIOD!!

[bgforever]

The guys who disapeared for me today were Cooley and Sellers. They didn't contribute to keep drives going. It is and has been painfully obvious that we do not have a #2 or even a #3 receiver yet the consistant third option to Portis/Moss has been our H-Back/Fullback tandem. Neither of these guys even got off the line today, never mind making a play! Hey Portis and Moss get a pass from me for effort, blocking and playing smart against a tough scheme. There were many instances where Brunell had time to throw, Moss was doubled and Portis was the only option, even after he had blocked somebody! Cooley and Sellers better stop reading their press clippings, stop peacockin' and play!


Just remember we put the #1 defense to bed and their strength is their BACK 7. Their D Line has Rice, McFarland, but the other two D Linemen aren't anywhere near their game. Its the way the back 7 play with speed and gile. If you take out Brooks, it is still a fast group. Their job is to reach Portis BEFORE gets to line of scrimmage EVERY PLAY. Their other job is challenge EVERY PASS. The result is a suffocating defense. WE now have one too :)

[bgforever]

Your team has no class. Who spits on people???? Maybe you should draft young Vick also...

Seattle will stomp on you Saturday


TEAM? Aw now that's pure unadulterated hatred by saying the TEAM spits on people.

Let me get this straight, since you are a "SPINNER".

1. We all know teams go up or down with play on the field while the game is being played and all are together with their respective organizations on that.
However, when a player ACTS ALONE in a DISCIPLINARY WAY AWAY FROM A PLAY, LIKE TRASH TALKING, how can you say the TEAM is doing it. True when in uniform they represent the team and that was an embarrassing moment for the TEAM, but the TEAM DOESN'T SPIT ON PEOPLE PERIOD!
Joe Gibbs and his staff, Dan Snyder with his, and the fans Didn't spit on people. A PLAYER spat on another PLAYER, just as a PLAYER HIT A PLAYER.

Now lets move on to the next suppository for your annal response.


"NO CLASS"

Hows is this? Wasn't the Seattle Seahawks riding into FEDEX that Nov. 4, 2001 day, (I WAS THERE), when your guys kicked one of our players out of nothing more than frustration, did take downs to get a then rookie Alexander free to the outside, face masked.....I will stop there.

I recall a HUGE scene yesterday that said it all. Cadillac Williams coming over to LA to give him a hug after the game. Why is that? CLASS! because in spite (not spit) of being tackled hard and with authority by the Redskins players, there was still respect for them, the isolated incident aside! Ditto for the Redskins respecting any team they play. The NY Giants and even the Dallas Cowboys got their mojo handed to them and still the handshaking, well wishing hugs, photo ops commenced at game's end.

So to sit there with the attitude to impact the entire nation for help of building a GET THE REDSKINS attitude, you only showed your lack of knowledge of the placement of People, places, and things.

[helimech24]

Offense was bad but was against the #1 D in the NFL ... and BTW, Seattle is 17th overall.

Don't look to hard into that ranking. They played SF twice, St.Louis twice, and AZ twice. That was six games that suck.

We won a hard game down in TB against the #1 Defense in the NFL and a banged up CP. We did what was need to win the game, so I don't understand how anyone can be upset about JG play calling

Lets take a minute here...

With a 14 point lead we

1. Killed the clock
2. Saved Brunell from getting hit and hurting his knee more
3. Rested Portis
4. Made TB beat themselves
5. Cut down on the likely hood of turnovers.
6. Did not give up the big defensive play to TB.
7. Made the TB's LBs useless with no passing in short yardage.

Not a bad day in my book. We did what was needed to play against Seattle.

[redwolf1218]

they definitely wanted to stop Portis. they must have been embarrassed at the fact that he had his season's best yardage total against them the first time the 2 teams met. there were times when i counted 9 or 10 Bucs in the picture along the line before the snap.

there were also time when our o-line did get a surge against their d-line for at least a couple of yards.

basically all our offense could muster was to punch it in from the 5 after Lavar's int, and then a long field goal. Taylor provided the rest of the points. but i guess no should take anything away from the Bucs for having the #1 defense either.

our defense played admirably, considering we gave them the ball near mid field on every kickoff, and the punts were either in the endzone for a touchback or shanked. we certainly didnt help our defense any with the field position battle. this is where i think we need to improve the most.

[inevitable]

Don't look to hard into that ranking. They played SF twice, St.Louis twice, and AZ twice. That was six games that suck.

We won a hard game down in TB against the #1 Defense in the NFL and a banged up CP. We did what was need to win the game, so I don't understand how anyone can be upset about JG play calling

Lets take a minute here...

With a 14 point lead we

1. Killed the clock
2. Saved Brunell from getting hit and hurting his knee more
3. Rested Portis
4. Made TB beat themselves
5. Cut down on the likely hood of turnovers.
6. Did not give up the big defensive play to TB.
7. Made the TB's LBs useless with no passing in short yardage.

Not a bad day in my book. We did what was needed to play against Seattle.

:goodpost:

[Blind-sided]

A road play-off win is huge and hard to come by no matter how ugly.
There are no style points in January.

Congrats on the WIN.

Agreed, was ugly but just enough to win.