Skins #54 - Trotter, who else?

[thecheat48]

Little help from my friends at hR.

A friend came to visit in Oakland from DC and she forgot to pack her belt. So we went to a Salvation Army to buy a cheap belt to use for the trip. I was looking around while she was trying in belts and found a 70th anniversary Trotter jersey for $3.

I dont own a Skins jersey and thought, what the hell, its $3 and I can always take Trotter's name off (l liked him when he played for the skins, but I'm not wearing his name on my back while he is playing for the Iggles).

Even if i take the name off, it'll still be a Trotter jersey cause its the 70th anniv color/style. But, I was curious if anyone could remember another Skins #54 so I could rep for a player who isnt now a hated rival. Any ideas? Who else on the Skins has worn #54?

I looked on the Skins website plus a few others and could track the answer down.

Thanks.

[redskin_rich]

Kurt Gouveia.

[akhhorus]

Kurt Gouveia?

[Santheb]

Curve that 5 into an 8 and make that 4 into a 9 and put Moss.

[thecheat48]

Thanks Rich and Akh. I knew there was another LB for the Skins who wore #54.

Its odd cause on SI.com and other websites they have him listed as #56. Idiots.

Here is a link with a pic wearing #54.

http://hawaiisportshalloffame.com/xgouv.htm
http://usaautographs.com/sz49.html

Thanks again.

[OCSkinzFan]

Chris Hamburger was #55
18th round selection in '65
played LB and went to 9 problowls

doesn't help the cheat though...
I'm enjoying a bev so I'll keep lookin:beer:

[OCSkinzFan]

I found a team photo from the '69 skins with a #54 but I can't figure out who it is.

I'd go with Gouveia if I was you.
I'm actually shocked that there weren't more players with #54.
Most of the "old" teams (see the '37 team pic) didn't have any players with a # over tha mid 40's.
I never noticed that before. I was hoping to find someone really obscure for you but unless I can figure out who had #54 in '69 Gouveia's it.

I know there's gotta be more than that, I'll keep lookin!:stout:

[OCSkinzFan]

Okay, YES I'm enjoying beverages!
This is totally off topic but check out this picture of Nixon talking to #78 with George Allen in the background. (you have to look about 3/4 the way down and click the pic)

http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/sarantakes/nixon-images.html

"Nixon took head coach George Allen up on a long standing offer to visit with the team to give them a pep talk....Many of the players were stunned and elated to have the President show his support."

[redskin_rich]

Okay, YES I'm enjoying beverages!
This is totally off topic but check out this picture of Nixon talking to #78 with George Allen in the background. (you have to look about 3/4 the way down and click the pic)

http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/sarantakes/nixon-images.html

"Nixon took head coach George Allen up on a long standing offer to visit with the team to give them a pep talk....Many of the players were stunned and elated to have the President show his support."
Did you read this?:
Nixon and the Redskins: In 1971, the Redskins, a perennial loser in the National Football League, were winning and looked like they might make the playoffs for the first time since World War II. On November 21, the team lost a home game to the Dallas Cowboys, 13-0. Redskin fans booed the players during the game.
Very interesting.
BTW, what kind of beverages are you enjoying? The specialty of Seacrets, the Pain-in-de-___ or the Rum Rummer?

[OCSkinzFan]

Did you read this?:

Very interesting.
BTW, what kind of beverages are you enjoying? The specialty of Seacrets, the Pain-in-de-___ or the Rum Rummer?
How did you know I work there!!??
LMAO!

Right now it's potato vodka (Luksusowa) from Poland.
The Wine Advocate gave it a very high score and it's about the same price as Absolute.
Tasts purdy; but it makes it hard to type:drunker:

[OCSkinzFan]

Did you read this?:

Same link, did you read this one. (Very funny)

The Redskins made the playoffs but lost in the first round to the San Francisco 49ers on December 26. During the game, Allen used a play that he said Nixon had designed. Nixon never actually designed the play, but allowed Allen to tell the team that he did in effort to energize them. The effort was too clever by half; the play resulted in a loss of yards.

Allen was ALL about the psychological aspects; very superstious. (SP?)

The funny part is "The effort was too clever by half; the play resulted in a loss of yards"
Very WaterGate-esque.

[gibbs4pres]

Okay, YES I'm enjoying beverages!
This is totally off topic but check out this picture of Nixon talking to #78 with George Allen in the background. (you have to look about 3/4 the way down and click the pic)

http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/sarantakes/nixon-images.html

"Nixon took head coach George Allen up on a long standing offer to visit with the team to give them a pep talk....Many of the players were stunned and elated to have the President show his support."
Just got off work and am having one myself. I looked at the pic but it was #88 not #78. It looks like Kilmer to me. First drink though.:beer:

[OCSkinzFan]

Just got off work and am having one myself. I looked at the pic but it was #88 not #78. It looks like Kilmer to me. First drink though.:beer:


NO, I was lookin at the 3rd pic!!

See.............

number ...........79.

In either case, I got at least one number right!

two if you close one eye and look 'at em both at the same time!

[gibbs4pres]

NO, I was lookin at the 3rd pic!!

See.............

number ...........79.

In either case, I got at least one number right!

two if you close one eye and look 'at em both at the same time!
Oh you're making my sides hurt. I'll look again.......... Byron Talbert?

[hogs86]

You mean Diron Talbert.I did a signing with him last fall.This is a photo of him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/dadssportsroom/talbertyellowhelmet.jpg

[OCSkinzFan]

You mean Diron Talbert.I did a signing with him last fall.This is a photo of him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/dadssportsroom/talbertyellowhelmet.jpg
Was he 79 in '69?

WHo was 54 in '69 call Diron and ask him!

or better yet, just gimme his # I'll call hiM

[redskifreak]

what was hamburger's #

[OCSkinzFan]

what was hamburger's #
He was #55.

[flave1969]

Okay, YES I'm enjoying beverages!
This is totally off topic but check out this picture of Nixon talking to #78 with George Allen in the background. (you have to look about 3/4 the way down and click the pic)

http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/sarantakes/nixon-images.html

"Nixon took head coach George Allen up on a long standing offer to visit with the team to give them a pep talk....Many of the players were stunned and elated to have the President show his support."

Is that Marv Levy in the team shot with Nixon? If so I never knew he coached with the team.

[hogs86]

Was he 79 in '69?

WHo was 54 in '69 call Diron and ask him!

or better yet, just gimme his # I'll call hiM

That photo is from 1971 and that is Ron McDole #79 (The Dancing bear) Diron Talbert was #72.

[redskin_rich]

Is that Marv Levy in the team shot with Nixon? If so I never knew he coached with the team.
I believe so, I think he was the special teams coach, which was an innovation of George Allen. Nobody else had a designated special teams coach back then.


How did you know I work there!!??
LMAO!

You mentioned it before and I remembered because I have spent quite a few drunken times there. Nice place, I'll probably be up there sometime this summer.

[hogs86]

Is that Marv Levy in the team shot with Nixon? If so I never knew he coached with the team.

Yes that is Marv Levy he coached with Allen for three seasons.Then he took a job up north with the Montreal Alouettes and won two Grey cups.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I know Jeff will appreciate this one.

How about the guy who succeeded Ken Harvey?

#54, Greg Jones.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Here is the complete list, through Greg Jones:

Don Corbitt, C, 1948
Walt Cudzik, C, 1954 (ironic, huh)
Bill Fulcher, LB, 56-58
Don Croftcheck, G, 65-66
Tom Roussel, LB, 68-70
Bob Kuziel, C, 75-80
Kevin Turner, LB, 81
Peter Cronan, LB, 81-85
Joe Krakoski, LB, 86
Kurt Gouveia, LB, 87-94
Jon Crowne, 87
Al Catanho, LB, 96
Greg Jones, 97-99

[RedskinRyan]

go with gouveia

[redskin_rich]

Here is the complete list, through Greg Jones:

Don Corbitt, C, 1948
Walt Cudzik, C, 1954 (ironic, huh)
Bill Fulcher, LB, 56-58
Don Croftcheck, G, 65-66
Tom Roussel, LB, 68-70
Bob Kuziel, C, 75-80
Kevin Turner, LB, 81
Peter Cronan, LB, 81-85
Joe Krakoski, LB, 86
Kurt Gouveia, LB, 87-94
Jon Crowne, 87
Al Catanho, LB, 96
Greg Jones, 97-99
What resource did you use to find players by number?

[IowaSkinsFan]

What resource did you use to find players by number?

I have an old Press Guide from 2000, that's why my list only goes through Greg Jones. There may have been a player to wear 54 between Jones and Trotter.

Oh, I just thought of another:

David Brandt, undrafted by Marty Schottenheimer in 2001. Started the season opener at guard.

He retired before the start of 2002 and later tried to get back in the league, I think we traded his rights to Detroit if I remember correctly.

[OCSkinzFan]

You mentioned it before and I remembered because I have spent quite a few drunken times there. Nice place, I'll probably be up there sometime this summer.
Oh yea, I think I remember doing that
PM me before you come to OC and I'll get you a couple door passes so you don't have to pay cover.

[redskin_rich]

Oh yea, I think I remember doing that
PM me before you come to OC and I'll get you a couple door passes so you don't have to pay cover.
Will do, thanks!


Back to the topic, it looks as though Gouveia is the best player to wear #54 for the Skins.

[thecheat48]

Here is the complete list, through Greg Jones:

Don Corbitt, C, 1948
Walt Cudzik, C, 1954 (ironic, huh)
Bill Fulcher, LB, 56-58
Don Croftcheck, G, 65-66
Tom Roussel, LB, 68-70
Bob Kuziel, C, 75-80
Kevin Turner, LB, 81
Peter Cronan, LB, 81-85
Joe Krakoski, LB, 86
Kurt Gouveia, LB, 87-94
Jon Crowne, 87
Al Catanho, LB, 96
Greg Jones, 97-99


Impressive. Thanks a ton.

And when I get around to it, I'll put Gouveia on the back.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Put your own name on their and tell people that is the number you wore in high school.

[thecheat48]

Put your own name on their and tell people that is the number you wore in high school.


My last name is Caldwell, which would have been great had it been #50 - Ravin Caldwell's number.

I'm about 5'3 and 130, and never played any level of football (other than backyard), so that story wont be very believable.

[Axegrinder]

My last name is Caldwell, which would have been great had it been #50 - Ravin Caldwell's number.

I'm about 5'3 and 130, and never played any level of football (other than backyard), so that story wont be very believable.
Use your screenname minus the 48.

[bosshog001]

I'd go with Cronan the Barbarian, he was a monster on special teams.