Insight: Bush Admin Preps for Impeachment

[Spence]

From Insight magazine, which is published by every right-winger's favorite newspaper, The Washington Times:
The Bush administration is bracing for impeachment hearings in Congress.

"A coalition in Congress is being formed to support impeachment," an administration source said.

Sources said a prelude to the impeachment process could begin with hearings by the Senate Judiciary Committee in February. They said the hearings would focus on the secret electronic surveillance program and whether Mr. Bush violated the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Administration sources said the charges are expected to include false reports to Congress as well as Mr. Bush's authorization of the National Security Agency to engage in electronic surveillance inside the United States without a court warrant. This included the monitoring of overseas telephone calls and e-mail traffic to and from people living in the United States without requisite permission from a secret court.

Sources said the probe to determine whether the president violated the law will include Republicans, but that they may not be aware they could be helping to lay the groundwork for a Democratic impeachment campaign against Mr. Bush.

"Our arithmetic shows that a majority of the committee could vote against the president," the source said. "If we work hard, there could be a tie."
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Sen. Arlen Specter, Senate Judiciary Committee chairman and Pennsylvania Republican, has acknowledged that the hearings could conclude with a vote of whether Mr. Bush violated the law. Mr. Specter, a critic of the administration’s surveillance program, stressed that, although he would not seek it, impeachment is a possible outcome.

"Impeachment is a remedy," Mr. Specter said on Jan. 15. "After impeachment, you could have a criminal prosecution. But the principal remedy under our society is to pay a political price."

Mr. Specter and other senior members of the committee have been told by legal constitutional experts that Mr. Bush did not have the authority to authorize unlimited secret electronic surveillance. Another leading Republican who has rejected the administration's argument is Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas.Source (http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/impeachment.htm)

[Spence]

Meanwhile, a new USA Today/CNN/Gallup Poll "shows public sentiment is against the program. Fifty-one percent of Americans said the administration was wrong to intercept conversations involving a party inside the USA without a warrant. In response to another question, 58% of Americans said they support the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the program."

Source (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-01-23-bush_x.htm)

[RedskinsDave]

Walking Hawk will be ecstatic.

[PennSkinsFan]

As much as I disagree with the domestic spying program, again, just like the Clinton impeachment hearings, this goes beyond what I think Impeachment was meant for. Let's get a reality check. This nation was and still is to some extent paranoid over the attacks of 9/11 and the US patriot Act and this spying program were overreaction to a national traumatic event.

[BurgundyNGold]

Walking Hawk will be ecstatic.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Except for the word I was thinking was "unbearable".

[Spence]

We shouldn't get too worked up yet. The story could be accurate, but let's recall that it comes from The Washington Times. The righties might love it, but even most of them know a good percentage of what the crazy ol' Rev publishes would fit quite nicely in the fiction section of your local book store.

[BurgundyNGold]

As much as I disagree with the domestic spying program, again, just like the Clinton impeachment hearings, this goes beyond what I think Impeachment was meant for. Let's get a reality check. This nation was and still is to some extent paranoid over the attacks of 9/11 and the US patriot Act and this spying program were overreaction to a national traumatic event.
If the president did illegal stuff, he should be impeached. Whether of not it is enough to gte him tossed from office is the question. If he's a crook, I say toss him and the whole lot of them out on their arses.

[CNYSkinFan]

As much as I disagree with the domestic spying program, again, just like the Clinton impeachment hearings, this goes beyond what I think Impeachment was meant for. Let's get a reality check. This nation was and still is to some extent paranoid over the attacks of 9/11 and the US patriot Act and this spying program were overreaction to a national traumatic event.

Thisis exactly what a censure should be used for. Clinton should have been censured and so should Bush.

However I may be reacting to the idea of President Cheney as well.

[BurgundyNGold]

We shouldn't get too worked up yet. The story could be accurate, but let's recall that it comes from The Washington Times. The righties might love it, but even most of them know a good percentage of what the crazy ol' Rev publishes would fit quite nicely in the fiction section of your local book store.
True. This could be just the beginnings of a call to action for the religious right at the midterms. If they think that their boiy Bush might get impeached, it could motivate them to get their butts out to the polls to vote for GOP congressional candidates. Just a thought.

[CNYSkinFan]

True. This could be just the beginnings of a call to action for the religious right at the midterms. If they think that their boiy Bush might get impeached, it could motivate them to get their butts out to the polls to vote for GOP congressional candidates. Just a thought.
Ironically the threat of impeachment worked for Dems and Clinton in the 1998 midterm as they actually picked up seats in the house and the senate remained the same. Since the 2nd midterm is usually harolded by major losses for the party in the WH this was a big big win for Clinton.

The GOP didn't get it though and continued anyway.

[RedskinsDave]

Thisis exactly what a censure should be used for. Clinton should have been censured and so should Bush.

However I may be reacting to the idea of President Cheney as well.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[BurgundyNGold]

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Cheney wouldn't make it to be the inauguration platform before any of a dozen activists groups tried to take him out. He may very well be the most hated man in America.

[CNYSkinFan]

Cheney wouldn't make it to be the inauguration platform before any of a dozen activists groups tried to take him out. He may very well be the most hated man in America.

There would be no platform, just a giant viewscreen as Cheney give his address from his mountain hideaway.

[BurgundyNGold]

There would be no platform, just a giant viewscreen as Cheney give his address from his mountain hideaway.
I thought he gave his speeches from his secret lair hidden inside of a volcano that looks like a human skull? :)

[CNYSkinFan]

I thought he gave his speeches from his secret lair hidden inside of a volcano that looks like a human skull? :)

Maybe it is here:

http://members.aol.com/SprFriends/halldoom.jpg

[BurgundyNGold]

Here is your boy prepping for his address to the nation:

http://www.4seasonsproductions.com/FLASH/Pictures/Beanball%20Cheney%20Dr.%20Evil.jpg

[Ibleedburgundy]

I don't trust Bush with an unchecked wiretapping program (not any more than I would trust Nixon).

[Spence]

I don't trust anyone with a warrantless wiretapping program. I'm really disappointed, but not terribly surprised, that this has become such a partisan issue. The FISA court will issue a warrant for a ham sandwich [which is okay by me -- I just want a judicial record of everything], so this is not about who is tougher on terrorists. I don't want any president of any party to ever have this sort of power. No exceptions.

[Paintedbird]

As much as I disagree with the domestic spying program, again, just like the Clinton impeachment hearings, this goes beyond what I think Impeachment was meant for. Let's get a reality check. This nation was and still is to some extent paranoid over the attacks of 9/11 and the US patriot Act and this spying program were overreaction to a national traumatic event.

911 was an excuse for Bushwacker spying and war plans already in progress.
Neocon BS engendered by Cheney. Both elections were stolen. Media bought. CNN has now capitulated, as have most major media.
Bush could care less about terrorism, except that he has a need to preserve it. Warrants weren't sought because spying was political and done for WH hegemony within U.S. Republicans are still serious about creating a permanent, controlled majority and the destruction of traditional American politics. We are headed for a corporate oligarchy headed by a chief executive who is above the law. The corruption of the administration is absolute. It has no fear of terrorism. NONE.

A further note: Bush is campaigning for torture and spying rights because he knows investigations of both his torture policy and habit of spying on political enemies will nail him. His only hope is to render legal what has clearly been illegal under some sort of new omnibus Presidential power package. At this point, he needs reto-active legality and unprecedented power just to survive. He's caught. That's what he worries about. Not terrorism.

[Fathead]

Republicans are still serious about creating a permanent, controlled majority and the destruction of traditional American politics.


And democrats are still serious about turning lead into gold.:rolleyes:

[Paintedbird]

:I was thinking the exact same thing. Except for the word I was thinking was "unbearable".


:flower1:

[Paintedbird]

Maybe it is here:

http://members.aol.com/SprFriends/halldoom.jpg

I'm pretty sure that's the place.

By the way, word has it that if Bush and Cheney escape impeachment the dems will prosecute them when they leave office. B and C will be informed-- by Reid, I think.

Bush's approval rating is currently at 36%.

[Paintedbird]

And democrats are still serious about turning lead into gold.:rolleyes:

I'm damned glad somebody is. It's about time you realized at least one of the parties has good intentions.

[Paintedbird]

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Don't be silly. T.O.'s not even old enough to run for President.

[BurgundyNGold]

911 was an excuse for Bushwacker spying and war plans already in progress.
Neocon BS engendered by Cheney. Both elections were stolen. Media bought. CNN has now capitulated, as have most major media.
Bush could care less about terrorism, except that he has a need to preserve it.
Back it up with a link PB or stop making such outlandish assertions.

Warrants weren't sought because spying was political and done for WH hegemony within U.S. Republicans are still serious about creating a permanent, controlled majority and the destruction of traditional American politics.
The American policy of hegemony didn't start with this administration. Sadly, nor will it end with it.

We are headed for a corporate oligarchy headed by a chief executive who is above the law. The corruption of the administration is absolute. It has no fear of terrorism. NONE.
Perhaps you and Hal Lindsey should get together and go bowling.

A further note: Bush is campaigning for torture and spying rights because he knows investigations of both his torture policy and habit of spying on political enemies will nail him. His only hope is to render legal what has clearly been illegal under some sort of new omnibus Presidential power package. At this point, he needs reto-active legality and unprecedented power just to survive. He's caught. That's what he worries about. Not terrorism.
This actually could make sense.

[OCSkinzFan]

There would be no platform, just a giant viewscreen as Cheney give his address from his mountain hideaway.
Cheney has the same travel agent as Bin Laden.

[swheeler]

Cheney has the same travel agent as Bin Laden.
Actually neither of them has noticed yet, but their secret lairs are actually under the same mountain, separated by about a foot of concrete.

Floorplan under Peak 3425 in Nevada:

________________________________
| | | |
| Tupac | | Bin Laden ___|
|_______________|__________|____|
| | |____ | Cheney |
| | |__________|
| Elvis | |
|_______|______________________ |

[swheeler]

That looked a hell of a lot cooler before it automatically deleted all the spaces...

[BurgundyNGold]

Actually neither of them has noticed yet, but their secret lairs are actually under the same mountain, separated by about a foot of concrete.

Floorplan under Peak 3425 in Nevada:

________________________________
| | | |
| Tupac | | Bin Laden ___|
|_______________|__________|____|
| | |____ | Cheney |
| | |__________|
| Elvis | |
|_______|______________________ |

:lol1:

[CNYSkinFan]

That looked a hell of a lot cooler before it automatically deleted all the spaces...

Where is DB Cooper?

[Paintedbird]

Back it up with a link PB or stop making such outlandish assertions.

In re to election fraud try Mark Cripin Miller's Fooled Again. You might also look into Ohio recent impossible return, and recent demonstrations in Florida that show voting machines are easily hacked. Here's an article from Salon:
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/09/23/bev_harris/index_np.html


The American policy of hegemony didn't start with this administration. Sadly, nor will it end with it.

Which does not mean that this administration should be allowed to proceed.


Perhaps you and Hal Lindsey should get together and go bowling.

Conspiracy among WH neocons is established fact. Secret bombings, reasons for war, torture, prisons, spying programs, etc. Only in science fiction or movies like 1984 has Hollywood anticipated this administration. For an intelligent man, you have the worse case of denial I've ever encountered. What's real to you?


This actually could make sense.


Note: I don't know how to put my comments correctly between yours. Sorry.
This is the best I can do for now.

[Fathead]

Note: I don't know how to put my comments correctly between yours. Sorry.
This is the best I can do for now.


you could put around the text you added. That would suffice.