4 Round Mock Draft

[BigCountry]

1 Houston- Reggie Bush, RB USC
2 New Orleans- Matt Leinart, QB USC
3 Tennessee- Vince Young, QB Texas
4 New York Jets- D’Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia
5 Green Bay- A.J Hawk, LB Ohio State
T6 Oakland- Mario Williams, DE N.C State
T6 San Francisco- Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon
8 Buffalo- Vernon Davis, TE Maryland
9 Detroit- Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech
10 Arizona- Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt
11 St. Louis- Chad Greenway, LB Iowa
12 Cleveland- Winston Justice, OT USC
13 Baltimore- LenDale White, RB USC
14 Philadelphia- Tamba Hali, DE Penn State
15 Atlanta- Michaell Huff, DB Texas
16 Miami- DeMeco Ryans, LB Alabama
17 Minnesota- DeAngello Williams, RB Memphis
18 Dallas- Jon Scott, OT Texas
19 San Diego- Marcus McNeill, OT Auburn
20 Kansas City- Tye Hill, CB Clemson
21 New England- Darnell Bing, S USC
22 Denver (from Washington)- Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College
23 Tampa Bay- Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State
24 Cincinnati- Brodrick Bunkley, DT Florida State
25 New York Giants- DQwell Jackson, LB Maryland
26 Chicago- Max Gean-Gilles, OG Georgia
27 Carolina- Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon
28 Jacksonville- Eric Winston, OT Miami Fl
29 Denver- Ko Simpson, S South Carolina
30 Indianapolis- Ashton Yubouty, CB Ohio State
S31 *Pittsburgh- Claude Wrotten, DL LSU
S32 *Seattle- Chad Jackson, WR Florida

1 Houston- Jeremy Trueblood, OT Boston College
2 New Orleans- Leonard Pope, TE Georgia
3 Tennessee- Antonia Cromartie, CB Florida State
4 New York Jets- Lawrence Maroney, RB Minnesota
5 Green Bay- Roderick Wright, DT Texas
T6 Oakland- Ernie Sims, LB Florida State
T6 San Francisco- Abdul Hodge, LB Iowa
8 Buffalo- Orien Harris, DT Miami Fl
9 Detroit- Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama
10 Arizona- Davin Joseph, OG Oklahoma
11 St. Louis- Mercedes Lewis, TE UCLA
12 Cleveland- Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB Florida State
13 Baltimore- Ryan O’Callahan, OT Cal
14 Philadelphia- Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame
15 Atlanta- Nick Mangold, C Ohio State
16 Miami- Gabe Watson, DT Michigan
17 Minnesota- Thomas Howard, LB UTEP
18 Dallas- Bobby Carpenter, LB Ohio State
19 San Diego- Dee Webb, CB Florida
20 Kansas City- Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green
21 New England- Kai Parham, LB Virginia
22 Washington- Darryl Tapp, DE Virginia Tech
23 Tampa Bay- Pat Watkins, S Florida State
24 Cincinnati- Ray Edwards, DE Purdue
25 New York Giants- Mark Setterstrom, OL Minnesota
26 Chicago- Dominique Byrd, TE USC
27 Carolina- Charles Spencer, OL Pittsburgh
28 Jacksonville- A.J Nicholson, LB Florida State
29 Denver- Greg Eslinger, C Minnesota
30 Indianapolis- Jesse Mahelona, DT Tennessee
S31 *Pittsburgh- Jonathan Jospeh, CB South Carolina
S32 *Seattle- Daniel Bullocks, S Nebraska

1 Houston- Devin Hester, CB/WR Miami Fl
2 Houston from N.O- Ryan Cook, OL New Mexico
3 Buffalo from Ten- Martin Nance, WR Miami OH
4 New York Jets- Donte Whittner, DB Ohio State
5 Green Bay- Greg Blue, S Georgia
T6 Oakland- Kyle Williams, DT LSU
T6 San Francisco- Derek Hagen, WR Arizona State
8 Buffalo- Andrew Whitworth, OT LSU
9 Detroit- Babatunde Oshinowo, DT Stanford
10 Arizona- Will Allen, OL Texas
11 St. Louis- Fred Matua, OG USC
12 Cleveland- John McCargo, DL NC State
13 New England from Bal- Mike Haas, WR Oregon State
14 Philadelphia- Spencer Havener, LB UCLA
15 Atlanta- Travis Wilson, WR Oklahoma
16 Miami- Charlie Whitehurst, QB Clemson
17 Minnesota- Rob Sims, OG Ohio State
18 Dallas- Jason Avant, WR Michigan
19 San Diego- Sinorice Moss, WR Miami Fl
20 Kansas City- Hank Baskett, WR New Mexico
21 New England- Kelly Jennings, CB Miami Fl
22 Washington- Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame
23 Tampa Bay- Stanly McGlover, DE Auburn
24 Cincinnati- Bernard Pollard, S Purdue
25 New York Giants- Cedric Griffen, CB Texas
26 Chicago- Greg Jennings, WR Western Michigan
27 Carolina- Rocky McIntosh, LB Miami Fl
28 Jacksonville- Charles Gordon, CB Kansas
29 Denver- Daryn Colledge, OL Boise State
30 Indianapolis- Joseph Addai, RB LSU
S31 *Pittsburgh- Brian Calhoun, RB Wisconsin
S32 *Seattle- Elvis Dummerville, DE Louisville

1 Houston- Fred Roach, LB Alabama
2 New Orleans- Kevin Simon, LB Tennessee
3 Tennessee- Will Blackmon, CB/WR Boston College
4 New York Jets- Joel Klopfenstein, TE Colorado
5 Green Bay- Kevin Boothe, OG Cornell
T6 Oakland- Donnie McCleskey, S Cal
T6 San Francisco- Richard Marshall, CB Fresno State
8 Buffalo- Todd Watkins, WR BYU
9 New England from Det- DeMario Minter, CB Georgia
10 Arizona- Alan Zematis, CB Penn State
11 St. Louis- Gerrick McPherson, CB Maryland
12 Cleveland- Matt Lentz, OG Michigan
13 Baltimore- Jonathan Lewis, DT Virginia Tech
14 Philadelphia- Jason Spitz, OL Louisville
15 Atlanta- Jerome Harrison, RB Washington State
16 Miami- Marcus Hudson, DB NC State
17 Minnesota- Anwar Phillips, CB Penn State
18 Philadelphia from Dal- Jerius Norwood, RB Miss State
19 San Diego- Jarred Page, S UCLA
20 New York Jets from K.C- Jami Hightower, OL Texas A&M
21 New England- Gerald Riggs Jr, RB Tennessee
22 Denver from Was- Greg Lee, WR Pittsburgh
23 Tampa Bay- Marvin Phillip, C Cal
24 Cincinnati- Terna Nande, LB Miami OH
25 New York Giants- Zach Strief, OT Northwestern
26 Chicago- Will Derting, LB Washington State
27 Carolina- Brandon Williams, WR Wisconsin
28 Jacksonville- Dwan Landry, S Georgia Tech
29 Denver- Dusty Dvorachek, DT Oklahoma
30 Philadelphia from Ind- Barrick Nealy, QB Texas State
S31 *Pittsburgh- Roman Harper, S Alabama
S32 *Seattle- Jamar Williams, LB Arizona State

[smoot]

no manny lawson?

[santanadasavior]

That's good stuff. I honestly don't think that Mattius Kiwanuka will drop that far. If he does, I will kick myself in the head for not having that pick.

[akhhorus]

The only thing that jumps out to me with the Skins' picks is that I think if it came down to a choice between Tapp and Ray Edwards, they would choose Edwards. And Fasano is a great pick, but I could see the Skins instead draft Dummervil and fix the DE problem for quite a while.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Will Moss really not go until the 3rd round?

[ihatedallas]

great pick with Pitt and Calhoun, he'll fit in very well with that system...also I love our picks i would be extremely satisfied with Fasano and Tapp, thier 2 guys that could have be taken very high if this draft wasnt so deep...

[Redskin006]

The only thing that jumps out to me with the Skins' picks is that I think if it came down to a choice between Tapp and Ray Edwards, they would choose Edwards. And Fasano is a great pick, but I could see the Skins instead draft Dummervil and fix the DE problem for quite a while.

Do you really think so? I havent heard much about Edwards, can you tell me more about him and why you think we would choose him over Tapp?

BTW, nice mock. Very realistic. I would be extremely happy if we ended up with Tapp and Fasano.

[Slobberknocker]

No way Cutler and Moss fall that far after their performances in the Senior Bowl...

And if Phily has THIS haul, I'll turn GREEN with envy:

14 Philadelphia- Tamba Hali, DE Penn State

14 Philadelphia- Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame

Damn!

Personally, I think I'd rather have Byrd over Fasano if both fell that far. Watching him this weekend, he seemed like an oversized wide receiver.

The suggestion we take a DE with both early picks (from a later reply) sounds intriguing... Pulling a page from the ol' Dallas draft textbook. I guess some of us are still smarting from not taking Chris Canty last year -- OUCH!

Let the combines (and Free Agency) begin... Fred Gibson, come on bye!

[akhhorus]

Do you really think so? I havent heard much about Edwards, can you tell me more about him and why you think we would choose him over Tapp?

Tapp isn't the next Freeney. He's tiny, but doesn't have the sheer speed, quickness and explosiveness that Freeney did. Edwards is a traditional 6-6 end who can dominate an OT. Tapp's stock has been dropping from the middle first, to late 2nd and might drop into the 3rd round, but for right now, I would pass on him.

[smoot]

Tapp isn't the next Freeney. He's tiny, but doesn't have the sheer speed, quickness and explosiveness that Freeney did. Edwards is a traditional 6-6 end who can dominate an OT. Tapp's stock has been dropping from the middle first, to late 2nd and might drop into the 3rd round, but for right now, I would pass on him.
one person that i would love to see us picking up in the 3rd or 4th round if he falls that far is Stanley McClover from Auburn who has been said by several experts to be the best pass rusher in the draft

[WABronco]

For Denver, change Ko Simpson (Den. likes their safeties to be big, run stuffers) to Chad Jackson (who fits Denver's O perfectly) and Dusty Dvorcek to Roman Harper. Maybe Eslinger to Greg Blue too, since Nalen is coming back next year. That and Eslinger could probably be had in round 3. Also, Charles Spencer should be ahead of Setterstrom (who'll be lucky to be taken on the first day).

But, giving Kiwi to Denver makes the rest of the draft irrelevant. That would be awesome!

Nice job overall...

[WABronco]

one person that i would love to see us picking up in the 3rd or 4th round if he falls that far is Stanley McGlover from Auburn who has been said by several experts to be the best pass rusher in the draft

Lol, it's McClover. You 'Skins fans are obsessed with calling him McGlover.:lol1:

[smoot]

Lol, it's McClover. You 'Skins fans are obsessed with calling him McGlover.:lol1:
yes, we have an obession, we just cant stop. or maybe it was a typo, and i apologize for it but thats what i was under the impression his name was

[WABronco]

yes, we have an obession, we just cant stop. or maybe it was a typo, and i apologize for it but thats what i was under the impression his name was

Lol, no need to apologize. That's got to be the 20th time he's been called McGlover on this board.

I was just jokin' around, don't take it too harshly.

[smoot]

Lol, no need to apologize. That's got to be the 20th time he's been called McGlover on this board.

I was just jokin' around, don't take it too harshly.
oh i wasnt, its just hard to show sarcasm on a message board. and i apologize because i pride myslef on making factual statements and i hate it when im wrong:rolleyes:

[BigCountry]

For Denver, change Ko Simpson (Den. likes their safeties to be big, run stuffers) to Chad Jackson (who fits Denver's O perfectly) and Dusty Dvorcek to Roman Harper. Maybe Eslinger to Greg Blue too, since Nalen is coming back next year. That and Eslinger could probably be had in round 3. Also, Charles Spencer should be ahead of Setterstrom (who'll be lucky to be taken on the first day).

But, giving Kiwi to Denver makes the rest of the draft irrelevant. That would be awesome!

Nice job overall...

Setterstrom and Eslinger go to Denver because they fit the system to a tee (Minnesota runs the exact same running game) and Spencer is more of a straight line blocker. I'll squeeze Lawson in later though.

[thecheat48]

Tapp isn't the next Freeney. He's tiny, but doesn't have the sheer speed, quickness and explosiveness that Freeney did. Edwards is a traditional 6-6 end who can dominate an OT. Tapp's stock has been dropping from the middle first, to late 2nd and might drop into the 3rd round, but for right now, I would pass on him.

Akh - Thoughts on McClover? He could join his Auburn folk already here in DC.

[Redskin006]

Tapp isn't the next Freeney. He's tiny, but doesn't have the sheer speed, quickness and explosiveness that Freeney did. Edwards is a traditional 6-6 end who can dominate an OT. Tapp's stock has been dropping from the middle first, to late 2nd and might drop into the 3rd round, but for right now, I would pass on him.

Oh, i see. I hadnt heard much about Edwards so I wasn't sure. So, what do you think about Manny Lawson if he is there in the 2nd as well as Edwards. Who would you take? Also, if Tapp is available in the 3rd, do you think if we took Lawson or Edwards in the second the Skins would use our 3rd on Tapp?

[smoot]

Akh - Thoughts on McClover? He could join his Auburn folk already here in DC.
http://georgia.scout.com/2/51148.html
http://auburntigers.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112105aab.html
http://tamu.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=10091&Sport=1 (please note the 40 time)
http://auburntigers.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010506aaa.html


and this is the best one for him......http://www.nfldraftforecast.com/Profiles/stanleymcclover.shtml
McClover could honestly be the most talented pass rusher in the nation this year potentially. He just has a ton of ability at the DE position. McClover is lighting off of the edge, he has a very quick first step. He is not however a soft pass rusher, he is very physical and can take on blockers despite his weight. The key to his game though is speed, he can get around almost any offensive lineman just on pure quickness and anticipation. When he gets around the football he makes plays as well, he does not just get hurries on the QB, he know how to take the QB down and force fumbles by stripping the ball or just off of the pure force he hits them with. McClover is listed as a sophomore next year but he was a partial qualifier in 2003, he practiced but did not play, so I believe he is eligible for next years draft. It would not surprise me at all if he comes out early for the draft and is a 1st round pick, he has that kind of potential. Last year he was a relatively unknown player outside of the Sugar Bowl. After this season though, everyone will know who Stanley McClover is, he is a very talented prospect and has a lot of potential at DE.

Strengths:
• Speed rushing ability off of the edge
• Overall force he hits with, very powerful player despite his size
• Very quick and agile athlete that could play OLB if he really wanted to
• Is good at getting under the pads of the offensive lineman

Weaknesses: • Does not have ideal height for a DE, is moderately short for the position
• Might be to much of a boarderline DE/OLB
• Will have to prove he can consistently be a dangerous pass rusher this year

Best Case Scenario:
Jason Taylor

Worst Case Scenario:
Lance Johnstone

[smoot]

Oh, i see. I hadnt heard much about Edwards so I wasn't sure. So, what do you think about Manny Lawson if he is there in the 2nd as well as Edwards. Who would you take? Also, if Tapp is available in the 3rd, do you think if we took Lawson or Edwards in the second the Skins would use our 3rd on Tapp?
in that scenario, i would definitely take lawson because of his freakish athleticism and tapp would be a hard call, i dont really think you can made any decision like that untill after free agency

[WABronco]

Setterstrom and Eslinger go to Denver because they fit the system to a tee (Minnesota runs the exact same running game) and Spencer is more of a straight line blocker. I'll squeeze Lawson in later though.

Spencer probably has better feet and agility than Setterstrom does anyways. He's got athletic ability-enough to play LT.

And yes, I know Minnesota runs the same exact running scheme, but frankly, the need just isn't there in the second, or third round for that matter. Nalen will be back, Hamilton is one of the best LG's in the league, and Carlisle is fine. Foster's at RT, and you gave Denver Colledge. We've got two youngens too.

Lol, you gave Setterstrom to the Giants, which I'm thinking has something has to do with your status as a 'Skins fan.

But it's your mock:)

[akhhorus]

Oh, i see. I hadnt heard much about Edwards so I wasn't sure. So, what do you think about Manny Lawson if he is there in the 2nd as well as Edwards. Who would you take? Also, if Tapp is available in the 3rd, do you think if we took Lawson or Edwards in the second the Skins would use our 3rd on Tapp?

Lawson above all, but I highly doubt he'll be there. If the Skins fix their other issues in free agency, I could plausibly believe they would take two DEs with their first two picks, especially if no one drops far to where they are picking. I don't think Tapp is on their list(I hope not). And I think they would look at guys like James Wyche, Mark Anderson and McClover ahead of Tapp.

[BigCountry]

Spencer probably has better feet and agility than Setterstrom does anyways. He's got athletic ability-enough to play LT.

And yes, I know Minnesota runs the same exact running scheme, but frankly, the need just isn't there in the second, or third round for that matter. Nalen will be back, Hamilton is one of the best LG's in the league, and Carlisle is fine. Foster's at RT, and you gave Denver Colledge. We've got two youngens too.

Lol, you gave Setterstrom to the Giants, which I'm thinking has something has to do with your status as a 'Skins fan.

But it's your mock:)

I tried to go by what I read on the orangemain.com forums and everyone was harping about the O-line. Also, I think Simpson and Kiwanuka in the the first round covers their major weaknesses on defense, while on offense I did not see another reciever that imo presents better value then any of the o-lineman. Greg Lee in the 4th round also isn't bad. I think Setterstrom is going to be real good and look at the Eagles draft if you think I'm biased. Like someone else said, I'll turn green if that actually happens.

[WABronco]

I tried to go by what I read on the orangemain.com forums and everyone was harping about the O-line. Also, I think Simpson and Kiwanuka in the the first round covers their major weaknesses on defense, while on offense I did not see another reciever that imo presents better value then any of the o-lineman. Greg Lee in the 4th round also isn't bad. I think Setterstrom is going to be real good and look at the Eagles draft if you think I'm biased. Like someone else said, I'll turn green if that actually happens.

Nah, I don't think you're being biased...just playin' around.

I could go for that first round. I guess it's really, really dependant on what Denver does in FA. There are rumors abound that they're gonna bring in TO, so that would cross first round WR off the list. Yes, that Greg Lee pick is sweet (lol, I didn't even notice it).

Fans in general, and some Den. fans, get way too caught up in the whole "Eslinger and Setterstrom played in a zone blocking scheme, that means Denver must draft them" thing. They fail to realize that Denver has two young guard prospects (Alexander and Myers) who have been in the system (which is KEY) for at least one year. They were probably harping about the O-line because we just got absolutely slaughtered by Pitt, youch...

Actually, I'm bein' way too nitpicky about this stuff. If Jerious Norwood somehow slipped to Denver in the 4th, I'd to backflips all up and down this joint with that draft.

Your draft is very accurate in terms of where players' stock is right now IMO, and you've got some unique picks.

[Redskinfan28]

Tapp isn't the next Freeney. He's tiny, but doesn't have the sheer speed, quickness and explosiveness that Freeney did. Edwards is a traditional 6-6 end who can dominate an OT. Tapp's stock has been dropping from the middle first, to late 2nd and might drop into the 3rd round, but for right now, I would pass on him.


Edwards has bust written all over him. I don't think he has ever been dominant. In fact, he was benched last year because he was unproductive and uncoachable.

http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/469644.html?refid=3652

[BigCountry]

Edwards has bust written all over him. I don't think he has ever been dominant. In fact, he was benched last year because he was unproductive and uncoachable.

http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/469644.html?refid=3652

Well if anyone can coach the uncoachable it's our defensive staff which now includes Jerry Gray, who turned Sam Adams into a hard worker. I'd still rather have the guy with the work ethic though.