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vegeta2364
01-30-2006, 01:24 AM
Gray picks Redskins: Former Bills defensive coordinator Jerry Gray turned down position coaching offers from two teams and decided to take over as secondary coach for the Redskins. In Washington, he will reunite with his old boss, former Bills coach Gregg Williams. Gray was frustrated that he didn't do enough to get a head coaching offer, or even get an opportunity to be a defensive coordinator. But the money's good with the Redskins, and so is the team

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=clayton_john#20060129

vegeta2364
01-30-2006, 01:25 AM
I hear he is an upgrade over walker? I hear he is pretty good? How good is he

EberKain
01-30-2006, 01:29 AM
I hear he is an upgrade over walker? I hear he is pretty good? How good is he

I doubt we fire someone, one guy can coach Safteys and the other takes Corners.

whitskins
01-30-2006, 02:25 AM
I doubt we fire someone, one guy can coach Safteys and the other takes Corners.

No Walker left to be Defensive Coordinator for UCLA.

bosshog001
01-30-2006, 04:16 AM
Could be a good move for Gray, but it will take him a while to get credit for the defense enough to get a head coaching shot with all the former defensive coordinators on the staff.

smoak
01-30-2006, 05:53 AM
This is truly great news!! Our coaching staff is absolutely amazing!

GolfFreak
01-30-2006, 06:23 AM
Wow, great news. Walker just left and they already found his replacement. This staff has got it together!

Does Oakland even have a head coach yet?

IowaSkinsFan
01-30-2006, 06:38 AM
Wow, great news. Walker just left and they already found his replacement. This staff has got it together!

Does Oakland even have a head coach yet?

No, I don't think they do and I take particular amusement with that.

chrisbcbu
01-30-2006, 08:05 AM
I expected this when Walker was first rumored to be leaving to go to UCLA.

Another fantastic move by our front office this offseason.

smoak
01-30-2006, 08:11 AM
No, I don't think they do and I take particular amusement with that.

I thought they were waiting on the Steelers O-Coordinator? Either way, coaches around the league know it is a crap job. Saunders made the right decision b/c at his age, he won't have time to start over again.

Redskinfan28
01-30-2006, 08:20 AM
Williams was aching to get Gray when he took the job, but Gray stayed on in Buffalo to be the DC. Now we get him - this is a huge signing.

S.Taylor36
01-30-2006, 08:34 AM
This is another great signing.

hail2skins
01-30-2006, 08:35 AM
Wow, great news. Walker just left and they already found his replacement. This staff has got it together!

Does Oakland even have a head coach yet?I read that they were waiting for someone from either Seattle or Pittsburgh. Can't remember which though.

Redskin-4-life
01-30-2006, 08:39 AM
Another great signing! What player wouldn't want to play for this coaching staff. We should definitly be able to attract some quality FA this year.

CNYSkinFan
01-30-2006, 08:39 AM
This is like a pro bowl coaching staff. IF football was an olympic sport, this would be the coaching staff to accompany it.

Great news.

chrisbcbu
01-30-2006, 08:40 AM
I read that they were waiting for someone from either Seattle or Pittsburgh. Can't remember which though.

They are waiting for Pittsburghs offensive coord.

dj_stouty
01-30-2006, 08:49 AM
This team is a talent magnet for coaches!

Spence
01-30-2006, 08:53 AM
I had Gray as one of the top 5 defensive coordinators in the league in 2004. This is yet another big signing for the coaching staff that just gets better.

skins111111
01-30-2006, 09:01 AM
This team is a talent magnet for coaches!

yeahhhhhhhh....everyone wants to get in on something good:)....it gives me the warm fuzzies just knowing that these class people can see what Gibbs and Dan are putting together here.......and yeah this will not go unnoticed by the FAs

smoak
01-30-2006, 09:04 AM
Nopt to mention that each coach has their own connection with FA players around the league.

Bottom line is that everyone needs to check their egos at the door. I hope this is not a situation where there are too many cooks in the kitchen.

rhummer37
01-30-2006, 09:15 AM
They are waiting for Pittsburghs offensive coord.

You guys aren't talking about R Grimm are you?

Redskin4Life
01-30-2006, 09:18 AM
You guys aren't talking about R Grimm are you?
Nope, he's the line coach. They're waiting for Ken Whisenhunt. Detroit, on the otherhand, might be waiting for Russ to run the offense for them...

redskin_rich
01-30-2006, 09:19 AM
You guys aren't talking about R Grimm are you?
No, Ken Whisenhunt.



This is one heck of a staff Gibbs is assembling, I hope we can keep it together for a few years.

MoeRedskins
01-30-2006, 09:25 AM
this looks like a nice hiring. He coached some great defenses in buffalo the last couple of years. Looks like the staff we are putting together could be a great one.

smoak
01-30-2006, 09:41 AM
Will Pittsburgh promote Grimm to Offensive Coordinator? If not mabe we can make him vice president of offense? :D

skins111111
01-30-2006, 09:56 AM
I hope this is not a situation where there are too many cooks in the kitchen.
we can have all the cooks we want so long as the Master Chef is running the show....and that he is:)

skinswin
01-30-2006, 10:27 AM
Gray is a good coach. We are having a great off-season and we haven't signed a palyer yet. :)

skins4life24
01-30-2006, 10:33 AM
I read that they were waiting for someone from either Seattle or Pittsburgh. Can't remember which though.
pittsburgh's offensive coordinatier

The Skinsinator
01-30-2006, 10:38 AM
Taylor in his 3rd year along with Rogers emerging and Springs getting healthy combined with Gray's signing equates to a very mean, nasty Skins secondary. Very pleased by this signing. Welcome to Washington Jerry Gray!

chrisbcbu
01-30-2006, 10:38 AM
Nopt to mention that each coach has their own connection with FA players around the league.

Bottom line is that everyone needs to check their egos at the door. I hope this is not a situation where there are too many cooks in the kitchen.

I wouldnt worry about too many cooks in the kitchen. We lost the coach he was replacing, so we didnt add another position.

smoak
01-30-2006, 10:38 AM
we can have all the cooks we want so long as the Master Chef is running the show....and that he is:)

Don't worry, I have complete faith in Gibbs. I always have.

helimech24
01-30-2006, 10:46 AM
Don't worry, I have complete faith in Gibbs. I always have.

I'm not to worried either because Gibbs is such a great manager. We didn't add anyone, just filled a vacancy. This may also be a glimse into the future for our defense. When GW takes the HC job, he will need help with the defense.

The Skinsinator
01-30-2006, 11:06 AM
When GW takes the HC job, he will need help with the defense.Good point, and Gray evidently is hungry for at least a defensive coordinator job. Williams could groom him nicely and he could end up being the predecessor for the job. I'm excited about this hire.

redwolf1218
01-30-2006, 11:15 AM
quote:
Hiring Gray reunites him with Williams and Washington will be the third different team with which the two have worked together. Gray was the Tennessee secondary coach when Williams was the Titans' defensive coordinator. When Williams went to Buffalo as head coach in 2001, he brought Gray along.
continuity is great. they've known each other for a long time.

BurgundyNGold
01-30-2006, 11:25 AM
This is truly great news!! Our coaching staff is absolutely amazing!
It looks like you're going to have to update your avatar amigo. ;)

JoeJacksonTaylor28
01-30-2006, 12:09 PM
Good point, and Gray evidently is hungry for at least a defensive coordinator job. Williams could groom him nicely and he could end up being the predecessor for the job. I'm excited about this hire.
I think Blache will be the D coordinator once Gibbs leaves... But Gray is also a intriguing possibility

Dept_of_Defense
01-30-2006, 12:10 PM
I think Gray is a great addition to the staff!

CFerro07
01-30-2006, 12:38 PM
I think Blache will be the D coordinator once Gibbs leaves... But Gray is also a intriguing possibility

I too hope that Blache gets the DC position however if Williams doesnt take over as HC soon I cant see Blache not getting any offers from other teams. I guess the same could be said for Gray too but I would expect Blache to get an offer before Gray. But you gotta love what Gibbs is putting together here. I mean if we only lose one of those guys we will still have a good DC for when GW takes over. The only problem I can see arising from all these coaching upgrades is when Gibbs does retire and when one of them does not get promoted when they feel they should it could stir up some things but for now what we have is great! I also wonder if bringing Gray over will entice Nate Clements to come as well, if we could afford him that is...

silverspring
01-30-2006, 12:40 PM
We certainly have an all pro coaching staff, crazy. Sounds like we are setting up for an epic season next year.

I am not so concerned that there are too many cooks in the kitchen, gibbs will make sure they check their egos at the door. I do wonder how hard it is going to be to retain a majority of these guys in the longterm, when you consider we got head coaches hired as assistants, defensive coordinators as secondary assistants, etc. Either way this is certainly raising my expectations for next year.

danny's stogie
01-30-2006, 12:42 PM
Gray is great with DBs. Despite a drop off in the Buffalo defense caused mostly by the loss of Williams up front, the defensive backfield was still superb. He helped turn a total project like McGee into a heck of a corner. He helped Vincent transition to safety and also has played a key roll in grooming Clements.

whistleandthumb
01-30-2006, 12:42 PM
Man, this is the Dream Team of coaching staffs. You hate to build up expectation so soon, but it's going to be hard to resist. We have quite the talent leading our players now. Joe is setting this team up for a serious run over the next couple years.

DoGood
01-30-2006, 02:29 PM
So, we essentially upgraded our defensive-backs coach by Dewayne Walker leaving? Cool!:lol1:

smoak
01-30-2006, 02:46 PM
Buffalo has a couple DBs who are FAs:

Kevin Thomas CB UFA
Nate Clements CB UFA

Clements is probably out of our price range, but maybe Kevin Thomas can come in for the vet minimum and compete with Jimoh and another guy.

HanburgerBum
01-30-2006, 02:56 PM
Before we celebrate, we better get Jason Whitlock's opinion of Jerry Gray. After all, Gray may be another self-promoting back-stabber.

Like CFerro, I am wondering if there is any way Gray can be a factor in luring Nate Clement to Washington (probably just wishful thinking).

helimech24
01-30-2006, 03:31 PM
Buffalo has a couple DBs who are FAs:

Kevin Thomas CB UFA
Nate Clements CB UFA

Clements is probably out of our price range, but maybe Kevin Thomas can come in for the vet minimum and compete with Jimoh and another guy.
That could be huge for our team. It would give us much need depth in that area, and it would be inexpensive if we got Thomas.

Slobberknocker
01-30-2006, 04:36 PM
Gray is great with DBs. Despite a drop off in the Buffalo defense caused mostly by the loss of Williams up front, the defensive backfield was still superb. He helped turn a total project like McGee into a heck of a corner. He helped Vincent transition to safety and also has played a key roll in grooming Clements.

I'm betting this now puts us squarely in the running for signing Clements this offseason. He's a free agent, you know, and I've got a buddy in Buffalo who practicaly concedes Washington is where he'll end up.

To be fair, Adam Schefter at NFL Network called this hiring a week ago... (check posts).

This is AWESOME news. Gibbs is a genius. The whole organizatio has been revitalized an retooled for the long haul!

Slobberknocker
01-30-2006, 04:37 PM
Gray is great with DBs. Despite a drop off in the Buffalo defense caused mostly by the loss of Williams up front, the defensive backfield was still superb. He helped turn a total project like McGee into a heck of a corner. He helped Vincent transition to safety and also has played a key roll in grooming Clements.

I'm betting this now puts us squarely in the running for signing Clements this offseason. He's a free agent, you know, and I've got a buddy in Buffalo who practicaly concedes Washington is where he'll end up.

To be fair, Adam Schefter at NFL Network called this hiring a week ago... (check previous thread).

This is AWESOME news. Gibbs is a genius. The whole organization has been revitalized an retooled for the long haul!

bgforever
01-30-2006, 04:51 PM
Great news, just saw it at the Skins website!

MWballer
01-30-2006, 04:57 PM
I'm betting this now puts us squarely in the running for signing Clements this offseason. He's a free agent, you know, and I've got a buddy in Buffalo who practicaly concedes Washington is where he'll end up.

To be fair, Adam Schefter at NFL Network called this hiring a week ago... (check previous thread).

This is AWESOME news. Gibbs is a genius. The whole organization has been revitalized an retooled for the long haul!

Gr8 hire!! I'd only want Clements if he comes in at Springs type money. Cause all i've heard about him is that hes trying to get paid like Bailey.

skinfanatic
01-30-2006, 04:58 PM
question: does dan snyder know that there is a difference between real life and madden?

answer: no. he hires whomever he wants for whatever. it doesnt matter. he signs any player he wants without considering the cap.

actually, i like the move. dan just never ceases to amaze me.

X-Factor13
01-30-2006, 05:00 PM
now i'm getting worried with all the coaches we're signing... could mean WAY too much ego around here

CowboyKilla
01-30-2006, 05:17 PM
This is Great News!!!! We just added a valuable asset at redskins park.
Kudos to the FO for getting it done. GW and JG reunited.
This may allow GW to concentrate on "other things" draft,personell,benchmarking,gameplanning, coaching. I say this because there is a trust already established between JG and GW almost like a "right hand man type deal" I know Blanche is right up there so maybe JGray and GBlanche can team up.

There is a similar set up on the offense. Gibbs-Saunders, then Bugel Breaux
Now on D we have GreggWilliams-Jerry Gray, Blanche Lindsey.
Just a thought.

CowboyKilla
01-30-2006, 05:18 PM
Would love to have Clements. Lots of dough though. Who knows.

LATrueRedskin
01-30-2006, 05:21 PM
A solid coach who should excell here for the Skins. He's under Coach Williams again, and he can re-start his drive to be a head coach. A huge benefit for us, and a benefit for him as well.

DoGood
01-30-2006, 05:30 PM
Where would Clements play on the Skins? Springs is our best CB and Rogers will be there soon. Clements will make way too much to play as the nickel. He'll make far more than Harris who I think should go back to nickel. All we would need is young talented depth for the future.

whitskins
01-30-2006, 05:46 PM
question: does dan snyder know that there is a difference between real life and madden?

answer: no. he hires whomever he wants for whatever. it doesnt matter. he signs any player he wants without considering the cap.

actually, i like the move. dan just never ceases to amaze me.

Um, what are you talking about? First of all, this is coaches, not players, and there is no salary cap for coaches. Second your comment that Snyder signs anyone he wants without considering the cap makes no sense, Snyder doesn't even run the player selection on this team, Gibbs does. And our team has never been in any kind of "cap hell" that would be the result of such flippant and costly signings.

Also, Jerry Gray was a former coach under Gregg Williams in Buffalo. He was Williams' first choice to fill the secondary coach role in DC, but Buffalo refused to allow him to leave, instead making him their coordinator. Now Gray is out of a job in Buffalo, and the Skins have an opening in his former position under Williams, so he comes here. This is a natural fit. It's nothing like Snyder sweeping in and stealing another big name.

whitskins
01-30-2006, 05:48 PM
now i'm getting worried with all the coaches we're signing... could mean WAY too much ego around here

I don't get how it's any different than it was before. Jackson left the team, Grey took his place. Why is this alarming?

It should also be even less alarming because Williams has coached with Grey in Buffalo, and Grey was GW's first choice to be the secondary coach with the Skins. I don't see how egos are boiling over as a result of this signing, Grey is filling an open spot on the coaching roster and he has worked under Williams in the past to much success.

skinfanatic
01-30-2006, 08:12 PM
Um, what are you talking about? First of all, this is coaches, not players, and there is no salary cap for coaches. Second your comment that Snyder signs anyone he wants without considering the cap makes no sense, Snyder doesn't even run the player selection on this team, Gibbs does. And our team has never been in any kind of "cap hell" that would be the result of such flippant and costly signings.

Also, Jerry Gray was a former coach under Gregg Williams in Buffalo. He was Williams' first choice to fill the secondary coach role in DC, but Buffalo refused to allow him to leave, instead making him their coordinator. Now Gray is out of a job in Buffalo, and the Skins have an opening in his former position under Williams, so he comes here. This is a natural fit. It's nothing like Snyder sweeping in and stealing another big name.

not sure why you attacked me, but fine. it was more of a joke. as in madden, many people just get the best coaches and they dont care about real life issues like chemistry and ego. no, gray wont be a prob due to prior work w/ williams, but at some point, someone in the coaching staff has got to get frustrated. its just human nature. and there was time before gibbs. even though dan may or may not have been the final authority, synder loved the allure of big name players like deon and bruce. there were other bonehead moves we made before gibbs. dana stubblefield anyone?

again, i like the move, but i cant be the only one to think that it looks like a lot of the same stuff i might do in madden dan does in real life.

whitskins
01-30-2006, 08:53 PM
no sure why you attacked me, but fine. it was more of a joke. as in madden, many people just get the best coaches and they dont care about real life issues like chemistry and ego. no, gray wont be a prob due to prior work w/ williams, but at some point, someone in the coaching staff has got to get frustrated. its just human nature. and there was time before gibbs. even though dan may or may not have been the final authority, synder loved the allure of big name players like deon and bruce. there were other bonehead moves we made before gibbs. dana stubblefield anyone?

again, i like the move, but i cant be the only one to think that it looks like a lot of the same stuff i might do in madden dan does in real life.

First of all, I never attacked you. Thinking something you said made no sense is not an attack.

If you meant that comment as a joke, then obviously I didn't detect your sarcasm. But then after saying what you said was a joke, you go on to back up your statement. Was it a joke or not?

Again, we're talking about players not coaches. The Bruce, Deion, and Stubblefield days have nothing to do with this. Yes there was obviously a time before Gibbs when Snyder was calling the shots, but what difference does that make now? Gibbs is the one who approached Snyder about hiring Saunders. Gray was hired to fill a vacant position. If we have too many egos at work here then what should we do, not fill vacant positions within the coaching staff?

You say you support Gray's hire and that he will fall in line because of his prior work with Williams, so is Saunders the source of your concern over the potential clash of egos? If so then refer again to Saunders being the object of Gibbs' desire, not Snyder. If Gibbs didn't seek out Saunders then he would probably be in Oakland right now. If you think someone is running this team like Madden then the person you need to name is Gibbs.

PigSkin724
01-30-2006, 09:02 PM
Where would Clements play on the Skins? Springs is our best CB and Rogers will be there soon. Clements will make way too much to play as the nickel. He'll make far more than Harris who I think should go back to nickel. All we would need is young talented depth for the future.

I have no clue...i might go with Rogers at the nickel...but you're right...we would have too much skill at the corner position.

Axegrinder
01-30-2006, 09:56 PM
We're all thrilled with the coaching additions,but......

what's it going to cost us?
I mean us,the fans.

Are ticket prices or concessions going up?
Dan's got to pay these guys,so where's all this extra money coming from?
You don't think that he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart do you?

helimech24
01-30-2006, 09:56 PM
Where would Clements play on the Skins? Springs is our best CB and Rogers will be there soon. Clements will make way too much to play as the nickel. He'll make far more than Harris who I think should go back to nickel. All we would need is young talented depth for the future.
They should try for Kevin Thomas, who played on the other side of Clement. He has 4 years experience, is 27 years old, and should have a descent price tag. The one knock is that he is coming off of a knee injury.

helimech24
01-30-2006, 09:57 PM
We're all thrilled with the coaching additions,but......

what's it going to cost us?
I mean us,the fans.

Are ticket prices or concessions going up?
Dan's got to pay these guys,so where's all this extra money coming from?
You don't think that he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart do you?
I think he is because he loves us all.:)

Slobberknocker
01-30-2006, 10:27 PM
We're all thrilled with the coaching additions,but......

what's it going to cost us?
I mean us,the fans.

Are ticket prices or concessions going up?
Dan's got to pay these guys,so where's all this extra money coming from?
You don't think that he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart do you?

When you make 300 mil in profits per year, and global interest intensifies when the 'Skins win (note: attendence figures, new Snyder-owned radio stations)... Snyder will more than make up any amount he pays the coaches.

I don't think this is a pass-the-buck issue. Snyder wants to win and knows now that it starts with managment. He's not worries about how to pay for it. You win, and profits soar.

I'm not worried about the cost to the fan whatsoever.

DoGood
01-30-2006, 10:36 PM
They should try for Kevin Thomas, who played on the other side of Clement. He has 4 years experience, is 27 years old, and should have a descent price tag. The one knock is that he is coming off of a knee injury.

Sounds great except for the knee injury. But I'm sure Williams and Gray will take a close look at him and his prognosis.

Axegrinder
01-30-2006, 10:49 PM
When you make 300 mil in profits per year, and global interest intensifies when the 'Skins win (note: attendence figures, new Snyder-owned radio stations)... Snyder will more than make up any amount he pays the coaches.

I don't think this is a pass-the-buck issue. Snyder wants to win and knows now that it starts with managment. He's not worries about how to pay for it. You win, and profits soar.

I'm not worried about the cost to the fan whatsoever.
I hope that you're right.

sdredskinsfan
01-30-2006, 10:49 PM
Man, this is the Dream Team of coaching staffs. You hate to build up expectation so soon, but it's going to be hard to resist. We have quite the talent leading our players now. Joe is setting this team up for a serious run over the next couple years.

Of course, as usual, the big question mark is at QB. If Brunell can hang in there for one or even two more years, we will keep improving as a team. Or, even better scenario is that Campbell is all he is cracked up to be.

helimech24
01-30-2006, 10:53 PM
Sounds great except for the knee injury. But I'm sure Williams and Gray will take a close look at him and his prognosis.Guess it really depends on how high Grey is on him because Grey has seen Thomas's progress the most.

DoGood
01-30-2006, 10:58 PM
Guess it really depends on how high Grey is on him because Grey has seen Thomas's progress the most.

Very true. Its nice to get some fresh faces in here with their own connections. It makes personnel moves much simpler.

helimech24
01-30-2006, 11:01 PM
Very true. Its nice to get some fresh faces in here with their own connections. It makes personnel moves much simpler.Absolutely. I think we have a lot of pull in this years FA market because of how diverse our coaches are, and the players they all know and taught. If the FA market is anything like the coaches pick ups for the Skins, it is going to be a fun offseason.

DoGood
01-30-2006, 11:02 PM
Absolutely. I think we have a lot of pull in this years FA market because of how diverse our coaches are, and the players they all know and taught. If the FA market is anything like the coaches pick ups for the Skins, it is going to be a fun offseason.

I'm already there buddy!

helimech24
01-30-2006, 11:06 PM
I'm already there buddy!So am I, I should have said that this offseason is going to get a lot more fun,lol.

Redskin4Life
01-31-2006, 12:59 AM
They should try for Kevin Thomas, who played on the other side of Clement. He has 4 years experience, is 27 years old, and should have a descent price tag. The one knock is that he is coming off of a knee injury.
Even better, right? Then he could come on the cheap like Walt did. And if he doesn't work out, we can just let him go...

smoak
01-31-2006, 07:11 AM
question: does dan snyder know that there is a difference between real life and madden?

answer: no. he hires whomever he wants for whatever. it doesnt matter. he signs any player he wants without considering the cap.

actually, i like the move. dan just never ceases to amaze me.

Dan isn't calling the shots any longer. Gibbs, GW, and Bugel have all gone out of their way to praise DannyS for being so supportive when they need to add something for the team. GW and Gray worked together before and it is a great move IMO.

smoak
01-31-2006, 07:15 AM
We're all thrilled with the coaching additions,but......

what's it going to cost us?
I mean us,the fans.

Are ticket prices or concessions going up?
Dan's got to pay these guys,so where's all this extra money coming from?
You don't think that he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart do you?

I have been thinking about this one as well. I am toying with the idea of only keeping my season tickets through the end of Gibbs 2.0. It isn't that I won'ty love the Skins just as much, but I'm afraid they are going to price me out of the market in the next 5 years.

redskin_rich
01-31-2006, 07:43 AM
We're all thrilled with the coaching additions,but......

what's it going to cost us?
I mean us,the fans.

Are ticket prices or concessions going up?
Dan's got to pay these guys,so where's all this extra money coming from?
You don't think that he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart do you?
Reality check, the coaches salaries are peanuts compared to what the players are making. LaVar's salary alone this year could be more than Gibbs, Williams and Saunders all together. This will be a light year as far as what the Skins pay for free agents and the draft but there will still be a lot more spent acquiring players this offseason than what is being paid to the coaches. Ticket prices and concessions will stay in in line with the leaguewide averages, as they always have.

smoak
01-31-2006, 08:17 AM
Reality check, the coaches salaries are peanuts compared to what the players are making. LaVar's salary alone this year could be more than Gibbs, Williams and Saunders all together. This will be a light year as far as what the Skins pay for free agents and the draft but there will still be a lot more spent acquiring players this offseason than what is being paid to the coaches. Ticket prices and concessions will stay in in line with the leaguewide averages, as they always have.

I hope so. I just feel that the Redskins could use this as an excuse to raise tickets. I have the same concern about them putting in a new Jumbotron.

CNYSkinFan
01-31-2006, 08:20 AM
Reality check, the coaches salaries are peanuts compared to what the players are making. LaVar's salary alone this year could be more than Gibbs, Williams and Saunders all together. This will be a light year as far as what the Skins pay for free agents and the draft but there will still be a lot more spent acquiring players this offseason than what is being paid to the coaches. Ticket prices and concessions will stay in in line with the leaguewide averages, as they always have.

Actually you are talking about Lavar's 12 million cap hit, not his salary. His salary is around 500K for this year. The rest is all cap hit from earlier bonus' and the 6 millon roster bonus due in July.Som if you count the roster bonus as salary he makes a little more then Gibbs this year or more then Saunders & Williams. But not all three.

redskin_rich
01-31-2006, 08:30 AM
Actually you are talking about Lavar's 12 million cap hit, not his salary. His salary is around 500K for this year. The rest is all cap hit from earlier bonus' and the 6 millon roster bonus due in July.Som if you count the roster bonus as salary he makes a little more then Gibbs this year or more then Saunders & Williams. But not all three.
Thats just semantics, the cap hit is for money already paid and money due, correct? Answer this, how much did Danny pay up front in bonuses last year?

CNYSkinFan
01-31-2006, 08:45 AM
Thats just semantics, the cap hit is for money already paid and money due, correct? Answer this, how much did Danny pay up front in bonuses last year?

Last year there was Rogers, Campbell, Rabach, PAtten, Jansen & Samuels who all got moderate to high signing bonus.

In other words a freaking ton of money was doled out.

I am just being a little picky about salary and cap hits nowadays. Somepeople think people are making their cap hits and being greedy when many times they are actually making around half of their cap hit so taking 2 or 3 million off the top is actually a 50% pay reduction as opposed to a 10-25% pay reduction.

redskin_rich
01-31-2006, 08:55 AM
Last year there was Rogers, Campbell, Rabach, PAtten, Jansen & Samuels who all got moderate to high signing bonus.

In other words a freaking ton of money was doled out.

I am just being a little picky about salary and cap hits nowadays. Somepeople think people are making their cap hits and being greedy when many times they are actually making around half of their cap hit so taking 2 or 3 million off the top is actually a 50% pay reduction as opposed to a 10-25% pay reduction.
I may have used a poor example but I was just trying to point out how miniscule an extra $2-5 million in coaches salary is compared to the entire cost of the team.

helimech24
01-31-2006, 10:36 AM
I hope so. I just feel that the Redskins could use this as an excuse to raise tickets. I have the same concern about them putting in a new Jumbotron.I guess it would depend on the maintenance needed for the upkeep. I am sure that installing it will cost a bunch, but the maintenance might also cost an arm and a leg.

BtwnDaTackles
01-31-2006, 12:56 PM
Good Addition, could possibly be our D-Coor. when GW takes over...

CNYSkinFan
01-31-2006, 01:15 PM
The only down side I see to this is if we win a Superbowl in the next two years there could be so many assistants leaving for Head Coaching jobs and maybe Gibbs, Bugel, etc retiring that is could be a virtual ghost town for the repeat.

HanburgerBum
01-31-2006, 01:30 PM
The only down side I see to this is if we win a Superbowl in the next two years there could be so many assistants leaving for Head Coaching jobs and maybe Gibbs, Bugel, etc retiring that is could be a virtual ghost town for the repeat.


If that's the downside, BRING IT ON! We will take our chances after we win the SB.

CNYSkinFan
01-31-2006, 01:43 PM
If that's the downside, BRING IT ON! We will take our chances after we win the SB.

Yeah I can get down with that too...

smoak
01-31-2006, 01:44 PM
The only down side I see to this is if we win a Superbowl in the next two years there could be so many assistants leaving for Head Coaching jobs and maybe Gibbs, Bugel, etc retiring that is could be a virtual ghost town for the repeat.

Gibbs isn't leaving the organization, and he fosters an enviroment that promotes loyalty. Some people will leave, but we'll be fine.

CNYSkinFan
01-31-2006, 01:45 PM
Gibbs isn't leaving the organization, and he fosters an enviroment that promotes loyalty. Some people will leave, but we'll be fine.
True gibbs will be President...so that is one good thing lol


Oh yeah and that fourth Lombardi trophy.

DoGood
01-31-2006, 01:50 PM
I'm all for whatever it takes for another Championship, but I'm not willing to fall of the map when its over and repeat what we have been through for the last 15 years. I want to become a perennial contender.

helimech24
01-31-2006, 02:19 PM
True gibbs will be President...so that is one good thing lol


Oh yeah and that fourth Lombardi trophy.
Priceless?

ChiefPowhatan17
02-02-2006, 09:32 AM
This guy was a really outstanding CB when he played.