They're skating in Hell

[Spence]

President George W. Bush says Bill Clinton has become so close to his father that the Democratic former president is like a member of the family.

Former President George Bush has worked with Clinton to raise money for victims of the Asian tsunami and the hurricane disaster along the U.S. Gulf Coast.

Asked about his father and Clinton, Bush quipped, "Yes, he and my new brother."

"That's a good relationship. It's a fun relationship to watch," Bush said in an interview with CBS News broadcast on Sunday.

While attending Pope John Paul's funeral, Bush said, "It was fun to see the interplay between dad and Clinton. One of these days, I'll be a member of the ex-president's club. ... I'll be looking for something to do."Source (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2006-01-30T165312Z_01_N29207600_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-CLINTON.xml&rpc=22)

[CNYSkinFan]

While attending Pope John Paul's funeral, Bush said, "It was fun to see the interplay between dad and Clinton. One of these days, I'll be a member of the ex-president's club. ... I'll be looking for something to do."

I really really really really wish that was a year ago.

[BurgundyNGold]

Source (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2006-01-30T165312Z_01_N29207600_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-CLINTON.xml&rpc=22)
Why wouldn't they be chums? They're rich, elite power moguls with more in common with each other than 99.9% of the rest of the population. I'm surprised they're not dating.

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Why wouldn't they be chums? They're rich, elite power moguls with more in common with each other than 99.9% of the rest of the population. I'm surprised they're not dating.It is not nearly as common as it used to be for political foes to be pals. D.C. has changed a lot. And they have very different backgrounds. Hard to imagine two men from the same country who have more different backgrounds than those two.

[BurgundyNGold]

It is not nearly as common as it used to be for political foes to be pals. D.C. has changed a lot. And they have very different backgrounds. Hard to imagine two men from the same country who have more different backgrounds than those two.
Hmmm. Rich, white, ex-Presidents, raised taxes and lied to the country. I'm surprised they didn't hook up sooner.

[Spence]

Hmmm. Rich, white, ex-Presidents, raised taxes and lied to the country. I'm surprised they didn't hook up sooner.Okay, if that's all you think there is to the two men...

[BurgundyNGold]

Okay, if that's all you think there is to the two men...
I don't think that's all there is to them. I'm just saying that they're more alike than the carefully crafted portraits of them would have us believe. Clinton was a conservative Dem in a lot of ways. Bush 1.0 was a liberal Rep. That puts them pretty close to center ideologically. I suspect that if circumstances were differentl the two of them could run on the same ticket and most folks wouldn't blink. Well, technically Bush 1.0 would have to run as Prez, since Clinton couldn't legally do so. He could, however, take over if the old man kicked, I think.

Anywaym, as far as I'm concerned, and I've voiced this opinion before, there really is only one party in Washington -- the Republicrats. It's the party of ambition, power and money. Issues are important, but they're secondary to those three things. From that standpoint, they have far more in common than what the qaint picture of the political establishment would have we of the clown electorate believe.

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I don't think that's all there is to them. I'm just saying that they're more alike than the carefully crafted portraits of them would have us believe. Clinton was a conservative Dem in a lot of ways. Bush 1.0 was a liberal Rep. That puts them pretty close to center ideologically. I suspect that if circumstances were differentl the two of them could run on the same ticket and most folks wouldn't blink. Well, technically Bush 1.0 would have to run as Prez, since Clinton couldn't legally do so. He could, however, take over if the old man kicked, I think.

Anywaym, as far as I'm concerned, and I've voiced this opinion before, there really is only one party in Washington -- the Republicrats. It's the party of ambition, power and money. Issues are important, but they're secondary to those three things. From that standpoint, they have far more in common than what the qaint picture of the political establishment would have we of the clown electorate believe.

off-topic, but to clarify, anyone who serves more than 2 years of someone else's term can only run for election by himself once. after someone has served two terms, he/she cannot occupy the oval office under any circumstances, however, this does not specifically preclude them from being Veep. for example, if Bush were to kick it before noon on January 20th of next year, Cheney would become President and would finish out the term for a time of more than 2 years. he could then run for president only once. however, if Bush were to croak or leave office for other reasons after 12:01 January 20, 2007, Cheney would become president, could run for "re"-election and could run an additional time if he was to win.

[BurgundyNGold]

off-topic, but to clarify, anyone who serves more than 2 years of someone else's term can only run for election by himself once. after someone has served two terms, he/she cannot occupy the oval office under any circumstances, however, this does not specifically preclude them from being Veep. for example, if Bush were to kick it before noon on January 20th of next year, Cheney would become President and would finish out the term for a time of more than 2 years. he could then run for president only once. however, if Bush were to croak or leave office for other reasons after 12:01 January 20, 2007, Cheney would become president, could run for "re"-election and could run an additional time if he was to win.
Thanks for the clarification. So I guess it's all over but the crying for Clinton, lol. I wouldn't be surpirsed if we don't see him in some pulbic capacity though. I think it would be great if he were a Senator.

[CNYSkinFan]

off-topic, but to clarify, anyone who serves more than 2 years of someone else's term can only run for election by himself once. after someone has served two terms, he/she cannot occupy the oval office under any circumstances, however, this does not specifically preclude them from being Veep. for example, if Bush were to kick it before noon on January 20th of next year, Cheney would become President and would finish out the term for a time of more than 2 years. he could then run for president only once. however, if Bush were to croak or leave office for other reasons after 12:01 January 20, 2007, Cheney would become president, could run for "re"-election and could run an additional time if he was to win.

However the Constitution clearly states that one of the VP qualification, in fact the only qualification, is to be able to assume the presidency, There is real constitutional debate on whether Clinton *could* be a national vp candidate because he has served 2 full terms in office and is now barred from running for office. The question is now is he barred from assuming the presidency as well. There is a 10 year limit as well so if Bush 1.0 ran again with Clinton as veep and died a day after Inauguration, Clinton may only be able to serve until midterm...and then what?

[CNYSkinFan]

Thanks for the clarification. So I guess it's all over but the crying for Clinton, lol. I wouldn't be surpirsed if we don't see him in some pulbic capacity though. I think it would be great if he were a Senator.

If Schumer ever moves on or Hillary goes to the WH, NY would be honored to put him for Senator. And yes...I speak for all of NY :)

[BurgundyNGold]

However the Constitution clearly states that one of the VP qualification, in fact the only qualification, is to be able to assume the presidency, There is real constitutional debate on whether Clinton *could* be a national vp candidate because he has served 2 full terms in office and is now barred from running for office. The question is now is he barred from assuming the presidency as well. There is a 10 year limit as well so if Bush 1.0 ran again with Clinton as veep and died a day after Inauguration, Clinton may only be able to serve until midterm...and then what?
I suspect that he would assume the presidency and appoint a VP who would ultimately succeed him at the midterm when he would have to resign.

[CNYSkinFan]

I suspect that he would assume the presidency and appoint a VP who would ultimately succeed him at the midterm when he would have to resign.
See i think he would be barred from running for VP. Supreme Court would likely rule that he is not qualified to run as VP because he can not assume the president's term if he incapacitated. I remember this being talked about as a possibility in Dem cricles when Kerry ran and even when Gore ran (because we love Clinton...were dems, we can't help it). Many concluded he could not run and be VP because of this.

[BurgundyNGold]

See i think he would be barred from running for VP. Supreme Court would likely rule that he is not qualified to run as VP because he can not assume the president's term if he incapacitated. I remember this being talked about as a possibility in Dem cricles when Kerry ran and even when Gore ran (because we love Clinton...were dems, we can't help it). Many concluded he could not run and be VP because of this.
I don't know about that. Technically, if the 10 year rule applies, he would be qualified for 2 years. It would only be after that time that he would have to resign. Well, that's what I think anyway.