Article on Redskins.com- WR a Question Mark As Offseason Begins

[S.Taylor36]

I found a few things interesting in this article. First, how much confidence we seem to have in David Patten. Even Santana thinks that Patten can really help next year. And second that in an Al Saunders offense the most catches a wide receiver ever had in his offense was 72 by Andre Rison in 1997. Anyway good read considering all the talk about T.O.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15306

[HAWGZHEAD]

For some reason this is the only part that stood out to me.

Moss had good things to say about Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Reggie Wayne, a close friend and fellow Miami Hurricane alum who is the headliner among unrestricted free agents expected to be available this offseason.

"Reggie and I have played together before and we're friends," Moss said. "We know how we are when we're not getting the ball--we're competitors. If that was something the team wanted to do, I'm pretty sure it would be great for the team. But I still have a lot of confidence in the guys that we have here."

I wonder why lol.

[smoak]

I actually agree. I think Patten was showing a little more in pre season than Moss, but Brunell took over and quickly gained a lot of confidence in #89. Patten will be a solid #2/#3 guy in a rotation of WRs. We just need to add a name to the mix and then spread the ball around. I truly believe if everything goes well that Moss could have more yard on 10 fewer catches next year.

[skinswin]

Eric Moulds & Andre Davis. WR problems solved.

[Slobberknocker]

Eric Moulds & Andre Davis. WR problems solved.

Al Saunders = problem solved.

[CFerro07]

I would still feel good if we didnt add any WR this offseason but it would also be great if they did get another WR. Yea Saunders didnt have many big name WR's but what could he have done if he did have those big name WR's. We have some good weapons on offense but another WR threat would be very very nice. But with that said I do like Patten and when he is back to 100% he could be another one to prove us all wrong and have a great season.

[S.Taylor36]

I think Patten can be a real solid #3 receiver. We need a big target over the middle now. Reggie Wayne isn't happening. The Colts will keep him. I'd like to get either Keenan McCardell or Eric Moulds.

[smoak]

I think the combination of Saunders and Gibbs is going to make a huge difference. Add a guy to the Moss, Patten, Thrash, Jacobs rotation and we're set. Unfortunately for TJ, I think he is the odd man out, but I am still hoping Saunders can harness all this potential about which I keep hearing.

[S.Taylor36]

I think the combination of Saunders and Gibbs is going to make a huge difference. Add a guy to the Moss, Patten, Thrash, Jacobs rotation and we're set. Unfortunately for TJ, I think he is the odd man out, but I am still hoping Saunders can harness all this potential about which I keep hearing.

I'm so over TJ. He has shown me absolutely nothing.

[smoak]

I'm so over TJ. He has shown me absolutely nothing.

I am not counting on him for anything, but I really don't see cutting him for nothing. He can be a cheap camp fodder and who know... maybe Gibbs and Saunders work miracles and get him turned around.

[CNYSkinFan]

I am not counting on him for anything, but I really don't see cutting him for nothing. He can be a cheap camp fodder and who know... maybe Gibbs and Saunders work miracles and get him turned around.
Smoak, I love you man, you have hope for everyone in B&G.

[whistleandthumb]

I've said it for weeks: Having a solid #2 Possession-type receiver will allow Patten to line up in the slot, which is where he had so much success in NE. If we have a true #2, that means we can run our offense, nearly all the time, out of a 3 WR set, which means teams will HAVE to play us honest in the pass. There will be no more 8th guy in the box, and it should cut down on opposing teams' ability to blitz.

[SkinsASchamps]

I've said it for weeks: Having a solid #2 Possession-type receiver will allow Patten to line up in the slot, which is where he had so much success in NE. If we have a true #2, that means we can run our offense, nearly all the time, out of a 3 WR set, which means teams will HAVE to play us honest in the pass. There will be no more 8th guy in the box, and it should cut down on opposing teams' ability to blitz.

I agree. If we can get a good possesion type #2 and put patten in the slot it will make us much more multi-dimensional. Portis will be able to slash and cut up defenses and cooley wont have to play everydown.

[CNYSkinFan]

I've said it for weeks: Having a solid #2 Possession-type receiver will allow Patten to line up in the slot, which is where he had so much success in NE. If we have a true #2, that means we can run our offense, nearly all the time, out of a 3 WR set, which means teams will HAVE to play us honest in the pass. There will be no more 8th guy in the box, and it should cut down on opposing teams' ability to blitz.
Amen. But A Reggie Wayne can open it up even more. I am not sold on Randle El but Randle el could also help in the return game. I rank my picks like this:

Reggie Wayne
David Givens
Randle El
Joe Jureviscious

[smoak]

Amen. But A Reggie Wayne can open it up even more. I am not sold on Randle El but Randle el could also help in the return game. I rank my picks like this:

Reggie Wayne
David Givens
Randle El
Joe Jureviscious

Is that your list even if you consider the cap implications. I'd think JJ would sign at or near the veterans minimum.

[S.Taylor36]

I agree. If we can get a good possesion type #2 and put patten in the slot it will make us much more multi-dimensional. Portis will be able to slash and cut up defenses and cooley wont have to play everydown.

I agree totally. This will be evident on 3rd downs. If we are in a 3rd & 6, having Moss, a possesion #2 and Patten all going out with Cooley in the flat or underneath, I don't see how teams can stop that. McCardell and Moulds would really help this team I feel.

[smoak]

Smoak, I love you man, you have hope for everyone in B&G.

I have not hope for TJ any more, but I'd rather cut him in camp... just in case. What is the negative to keeping him around for camp competition? Unless someone thinks a guy like Farris would be better off in the spot.

[CNYSkinFan]

I have not hope for TJ any more, but I'd rather cut him in camp... just in case. What is the negative to keeping him around for camp competition? Unless someone thinks a guy like Farris would be better off in the spot.

I actually could care less about TJ since it costs the same to cut or keep him so having him as a 5th WR would not be the worst thing for me. But Farris should be given a chance to make the squad over him, so should A. Brown because he "contributes" on special teams.

I just think TJ is worthless right now.

[S.Taylor36]

I actually could care less about TJ since it costs the same to cut or keep him so having him as a 5th WR would not be the worst thing for me. But Farris should be given a chance to make the squad over him, so should A. Brown because he "contributes" on special teams.

I just think TJ is worthless right now.

Totally agree.

[Redskin4Life]

I agree totally. This will be evident on 3rd downs. If we are in a 3rd & 6, having Moss, a possesion #2 and Patten all going out with Cooley in the flat or underneath, I don't see how teams can stop that. McCardell and Moulds would really help this team I feel.
Or you can run in that situ since the D will be focused on all of those playmakers. Or then again you could throw to Sellers or Royal... I can't wait for us to get another WR.

I want Antonio Bryant or Randle-El. I want someone that'll be a Skin for years to come. JJ is getting old. I don't want the Patriots WR corp here. And I doubt Indy will let Wayne go...

[skinswin]

We get Eric Moulds in here and he'd be the perfect big body WR compliment to Moss.

Andre Davis is a local guy who can also handle the punt return duties as well. Davis can also alternate at the 2nd and 3rd WR position.

And Patten..I really wasn't impressed with him but having him in the mix is better then having Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash.

Both Taylor and Thrash need not return. And I don't care how good Thrash is on special teams.

- Taylor Jacobs & Thrash

+ Eric Moulds and Andre Davis

Then we've got an NFL caliber WR corps that didn't break the bank to make.

[skinswin]

Al Saunders = problem solved.


No. Al Saunders can't make something out of nothing. And Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash are nothing.

[smoak]

No. Al Saunders can't make something out of nothing. And Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash are nothing.

Thrash is far from nothing. He is a proven veteran WR who excels on special teams.

I can't defend Jacobs, but Saunders has gotten more out of seemingly lesser talented players.

[BigPlayJay]

I actually agree. I think Patten was showing a little more in pre season than Moss, but Brunell took over and quickly gained a lot of confidence in #89. Patten will be a solid #2/#3 guy in a rotation of WRs. We just need to add a name to the mix and then spread the ball around. I truly believe if everything goes well that Moss could have more yard on 10 fewer catches next year.

In Preseason it looked to me like Patten was going to be big time for us. Moss didn't really show much in Preseason and had me wondering if he was going to fade into the background like he did his last year in NY.

I think Patten could probably do the job, but I would like to see another WR of at least his caliber come in and they can be 2 & 3. I believe Patten can play, but I am not willing to bet our entire season on that assumption.

Thrash will stick around and be a decent # 4 WR / special teams stud. Jacobs should come to camp but will probably be cut loose. I would like to see us draft and start developing a young WR in the middle rounds too.

[Keino]

No. Al Saunders can't make something out of nothing. And Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash are nothing.

Eddie Kennison and Samie Parker?

Seems to me he did a whole lot with nothing.....

[redwolf1218]

SKIN Wide Reciever HGT WGT Speed
89 MOSS Santana 5- 8.0 177 4.36
17 THRASH James 6- 0.0 204 4.53
84 JACOBS Taylor 6- 0.4 205 4.39
BROWN Antonio 5- 8.0 165 4.28
0 CASH Ativeus 6- 2.0 197 4.61
8 WARD Lashaun 6- 1.0 195 4.45
PARSON Rich 5-11.0 185 4.45
86 PATTEN David 5- 9.0 180 4.43

That list right there is sad. it's amazing what Moss was able to do under the circumstances.

[redwolf1218]

Eddie Kennison and Samie Parker?

Seems to me he did a whole lot with nothing.....
they do have some speed though...
KC Wide Reciever HGT WGT Speed
87 KENNISON Eddie 5-11.0 195 4.35
18 PARKER Sammie 5-10.3 179 4.35
82 HALL Dante 5- 7.0 191 4.31

[whistleandthumb]

Amen. But A Reggie Wayne can open it up even more. I am not sold on Randle El but Randle el could also help in the return game. I rank my picks like this:

Reggie Wayne
David Givens
Randle El
Joe Jureviscious
Man, JJ has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel. I want someone who is durable, and can stick around for a few years.

I would LOVE to get Wayne, but I think Moulds could be a great fit, though he's not getting any younger either. Bryant could also be an excellent pick up, but we just CAN NOT have Patten as our #2... and that's not a slight against him; it's just that I think he can be twice as effective as our #3, as he could be our #2 (if that makes any sense).

[smoak]

Man, JJ has one foot in the grave and another on a banana peel. I want someone who is durable, and can stick around for a few years.

I would LOVE to get Wayne, but I think Moulds could be a great fit, though he's not getting any younger either. Bryant could also be an excellent pick up, but we just CAN NOT have Patten as our #2... and that's not a slight against him; it's just that I think he can be twice as effective as our #3, as he could be our #2 (if that makes any sense).

JJ is younger than Moulds and arguably had a better season.

[redskin_rich]

JJ is younger than Moulds and arguably had a better season.
JJ is also injury-prone and not a starter. He has never started close to 16 games in a season.
JJ is coming off of his best ever season with 55 catches. Moulds is coming off an average season with 81 catches.

[whistleandthumb]

JJ is younger than Moulds and arguably had a better season.
But JJ was on a better team. Taylor Jacobs would've looked like Ricky Sanders on that team.

[DoGood]

WHAT is wrong with Taylor Jacobs!?!?!?! What a nut case. Is it all in his head? If you look at him and his "skills" you would think he would be burning people all the time. I'd hate to give up on him but I don't see what choice we have. So very frustrating.

[whitskins]

JJ is also injury-prone and not a starter. He has never started close to 16 games in a season.
JJ is coming off of his best ever season with 55 catches. Moulds is coming off an average season with 81 catches.

Not to mention that Moulds played on a team with two of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL, and Jurevicious had an All Pro under center. His injury concerns are also significant as you have noted.

Jurevicious is a nice player, but he can't come close to doing what Moulds can. If money did not play a deciding factor, I'd choose Moulds 11 times out of 10.

[BigPlayJay]

WHAT is wrong with Taylor Jacobs!?!?!?! What a nut case. Is it all in his head? If you look at him and his "skills" you would think he would be burning people all the time. I'd hate to give up on him but I don't see what choice we have. So very frustrating.

Shawn Springs said earlier in the season on Monday Night Live that TJ was the most talented receiver on the team. It must be mental, cuz he can't play a lick.

[redskin_rich]

Shawn Springs said earlier in the season on Monday Night Live that TJ was the most taleneted reciever on the team. It must be mental, cuz he can't play a lick.
TJ doesn't belong in the NFL, he is a softy. He should be a nurse or something.

[DoGood]

TJ doesn't belong in the NFL, he is a softy. He should be a nurse or something.

I believe that it is strictly a mental hurdle. He has all the tools. I hope Joe and Al can work on him a little bit and give him a solid opportunity next season to show us if he has made progress.

[Slobberknocker]

No. Al Saunders can't make something out of nothing. And Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash are nothing.

Saunders already has far more to work with in DC than he ever had in KC. And you are beating up on Thrash for no reason. Jacobs, maybe, but not Thrash. He's a clutch guy with a great attitude and I don't think Gibbs will get rid of him no matter how much turnover we see at WR.

[whistleandthumb]

I'd choose Moulds 11 times out of 10.


11 out of 10? Dat der is some funny math. :)

[redskin_rich]

I believe that it is strictly a mental hurdle. He has all the tools. I hope Joe and Al can work on him a little bit and give him a solid opportunity next season to show us if he has made progress.
Its beyond mental, some guys aggressively go for the ball and some guys flinch. Jacobs is a flincher and no coaching can change that.

[RicFlairOne]

JJ is also injury-prone and not a starter. He has never started close to 16 games in a season.
JJ is coming off of his best ever season with 55 catches. Moulds is coming off an average season with 81 catches.

JJ had 10 touchdowns. He would be a perfect complement to Moss. Great hands and a great route runner. As CNY said earlier, Wayne would be great. As we know, all of the guys from the U are tight. However, I do not think we will be able to afford him. So much is up in the air right now with the cap.

[redskin_rich]

JJ had 10 touchdowns. He would be a perfect complement to Moss. Great hands and a great route runner. As CNY said earlier, Wayne would be great. As we know, all of the guys from the U are tight. However, I do not think we will be able to afford him. So much is up in the air right now with the cap.
I like Jurevicious but I would rather have Moulds.I doubt JJ leaves Seattle or that they let him go after the season he has had there.
I don't see Wayne or Randle El as being worth the money.
As it is, there is no guarantee that Buffalo lets Moulds go but it is likely and that is my first choice if available.

[skins111111]

TJ- is as good as gone
Thrash- is here to stay
JJ- would be a great fit at a decent price
Patten- I would love to see him as our #3 wr
A Brown- it will be interesting to see if saunders can do anything with him (I won't be holding my breath) if he had decent hands and could react to the ball like SMoss---WOW

#!- S Moss...#2 Joe J......#3 D Patten.......#4 the Thrash Can Man

[NCskinsfanatic]

I'm all for Moulds if Buffalo releases him, he had an off year due in large part to the lack of a QB and despite being 31/32 he could be the clutch possession guy we need for 2 or 3 more seasons. I also dont think he'd cost anywhere near as much as Wayne or Randel-El... which is a good thing. Antonia Bryant and/or Koren Robinson could be decent additions and would help on ST's too, but neither are on par with Moulds IMO.

[cactusjack]

Jacobs has been a bust period. Its gotta be a U of Florida thing, seems like all the WRs they put out stink at the NFL level. Gaffney in Houston is the only Florida WR that I can think of off the top of my head that hasnt been a complete failure. I like the idea of Patten in the slot spot, getting a Older Vet at the 2 either a Moulds, McCardell type and drafting Hank Baskett if he is there when we pick in the 2nd. All that being said I still feel that the OL depth has to be a BIG priority. We were very fortunate not to have more injuries at that position. I also feel it was the line that killed our playoff run. IMHO if Randy had gone down a week earlier we wouldnt have made the playoffs. Oh and a question wasnt Brown allocated to NFLE?

[santanadasavior]

TJ- is as good as gone
Thrash- is here to stay
JJ- would be a great fit at a decent price
Patten- I would love to see him as our #3 wr
A Brown- it will be interesting to see if saunders can do anything with him (I won't be holding my breath) if he had decent hands and could react to the ball like SMoss---WOW

#!- S Moss...#2 Joe J......#3 D Patten.......#4 the Thrash Can Man

Dante Hall. Was not a very good reciever when he came into the league, but is now a solid number 3. If Brown can be a solid number 4 I'll be elated.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Oh and a question wasnt Brown allocated to NFLE
Yes I do believe he was cactusjack.

[redskin_rich]

Jacobs has been a bust period. Its gotta be a U of Florida thing, seems like all the WRs they put out stink at the NFL level. Gaffney in Houston is the only Florida WR that I can think of off the top of my head that hasnt been a complete failure. I like the idea of Patten in the slot spot, getting a Older Vet at the 2 either a Moulds, McCardell type and drafting Hank Baskett if he is there when we pick in the 2nd. All that being said I still feel that the OL depth has to be a BIG priority. We were very fortunate not to have more injuries at that position. I also feel it was the line that killed our playoff run. IMHO if Randy had gone down a week earlier we wouldnt have made the playoffs. Oh and a question wasnt Brown allocated to NFLE?
Darrell Jackson and Ike Hilliard have been the best WR's to come out of Florida in recent times but considering all the 1st and early 2nd round picks that have been used on WR's from that school, that ain't much.
And yes, Antonio Brown will be playing in Amsterdam this spring. He better stay out of the coffee houses!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i hope and pray that moulds get released and we sign him. i think he'd be the perfect compliment to moss and patten.

[skinswin]

Eddie Kennison and Samie Parker?

Seems to me he did a whole lot with nothing.....


Eddie Kennison was a 1000 yard reciever before he got to Kansas City. He had talent and was a high draft pick to verify it.

If you know about Samie Parker, Parker was one of the top players coming out of college at Oregon. He hurt his foot and got lost in the suffle. Both Kennison and Parker have talent.

Taylor Jacobs is another bum Florida Wr that looks good only in practice. And James Thrash is only good on special teams. You can find good enough special teamers for less.

Thrash and Jacobs have both proven their just "guys" and nothing more.

[cactusjack]

Darrell Jackson and Ike Hilliard have been the best WR's to come out of Florida in recent times but considering all the 1st and early 2nd round picks that have been used on WR's from that school, that ain't much.
And yes, Antonio Brown will be playing in Amsterdam this spring. He better stay out of the coffee houses!
I forgot about Jackson. But a man I work with is a Giants fan and recall him being very happy that Hilliard was no longer a member of that team citing all the same comments Skin fans say about TJ.

[skinswin]

Saunders already has far more to work with in DC than he ever had in KC. And you are beating up on Thrash for no reason. Jacobs, maybe, but not Thrash. He's a clutch guy with a great attitude and I don't think Gibbs will get rid of him no matter how much turnover we see at WR.

Andre Davis is a better special teamer then Thrash. Davis is an excellent punt returner and when he plays WR he can actually be a playmaker. Those are two very important things that Thrash isn't and can't do.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Eddie Kennison was a 1000 yard reciever before he got to Kansas City. He had talent and was a high draft pick to verify it.

not really. eddie's best season prior to joining kansas city was his rookie season (which was a very productive one) with the rams in 96:

54 Catches
924 Yards
9 TDs

he didnt hit the 1,000 mark until his fourth season with the chiefs in 2004:
62 Catches
1086 Yards
8 TDs

he isnt a household name unless he is playing champ bailey, lol. he isnt and hsnt been a top 15-20 receiver his whole career. he has been solid, but definitely not spectacular. you are correct about him being more productive than jacobs however. the numbers just show that with moss alone, saunders will have much more to work with.

[OCSKINSFAN]

I probably like most of us had high hopes for TJ. Unfortunately, they have been dashed. The only strength I have seen from him is that he can catch. If the ball is there, and he doesn't have to fight for it, he will catch it. His main problem is he doesn't get open. He has speed, but not quickness/moves. I see no problem letting him compete at camp next season, and who knows, maybe an another year (which he remains healthy) and Saunders will help, but from what I've seen, I'm not counting on it.

[RicFlairOne]

Jacobs has been a bust period. Its gotta be a U of Florida thing, seems like all the WRs they put out stink at the NFL level. Gaffney in Houston is the only Florida WR that I can think of off the top of my head that hasnt been a complete failure. I like the idea of Patten in the slot spot, getting a Older Vet at the 2 either a Moulds, McCardell type and drafting Hank Baskett if he is there when we pick in the 2nd. All that being said I still feel that the OL depth has to be a BIG priority. We were very fortunate not to have more injuries at that position. I also feel it was the line that killed our playoff run. IMHO if Randy had gone down a week earlier we wouldnt have made the playoffs. Oh and a question wasnt Brown allocated to NFLE?

Cactusjack and RicFlairone - Who is the next wrestling legend to see the light and join this great tribe ??


whooooo

[helimech24]

For some reason this is the only part that stood out to me.



I wonder why lol.
:whoknows: ,I don't understand why?

[helimech24]

I think Patten would do fine with another season receiving from Mark Brunell and building a relataionship with him, but I think we need a veteran reliable WR to add depth and in case Moss or Patten go down. Bryant or Moulds should be at the top of the list with JJ and McCardell being ahead of any unprove WR on the market.

[burgundy4life]

With Moss, Patten, and Cooley along with Royal there should be absolutly no reason why a TJ couldnt get open. He is just one of those guys who just could not seem to make the level needed to compete at this stage. Its quite obvious he cannot whatever his talents are. Tired of waiting on him arent yall?

WE NEED MOULDS HERE


anyone surprized that kennison and parker are faster then Moss? I am



B4L

[HAWGZHEAD]

:whoknows: ,I don't understand why?Because it was about Reggie "soon to be your favorite skin" Wayne lol.

[whistleandthumb]

With Moss, Patten, and Cooley along with Royal there should be absolutly no reason why a TJ couldnt get open.

I think part of the problem was that Patten couldn't get open; therefore, teams could still double Moss, and play single coverage with everyone else, and effectively shut us down. I agree that TJ, as a receiver in the NFL, should have the skills to get open by now, but no one except Moss was really able to do that for us this year...

...Which is why we need that solid #2. That'll keep defenses from doubling Moss all game, and will just absolutely open up our offense.

[ConradCountry]

I liked Akhs Mike Williams idea but am unsure of how likely it is.

[helimech24]

Because it was about Reggie "soon to be your favorite skin" Wayne lol.I had no idea,lol

[cactusjack]

Cactusjack and RicFlairone - Who is the next wrestling legend to see the light and join this great tribe ??


whooooo
Yeah I keep waiting for a TerryFunk to show up.lol

[Slobberknocker]

I'm all for Moulds if Buffalo releases him, he had an off year due in large part to the lack of a QB and despite being 31/32 he could be the clutch possession guy we need for 2 or 3 more seasons.

My source in Buffalo informs me that Moulds has been assured that all will change/be forgiven under the new regime, and that he's not going anywhere...

Moulds had problems with Mularkey and the situation with Losman. I can only wonder how much anger lingers, and how willing he would be to stay patient if/when we make Campbell our starter.

Along the same lines, my Buffalo buddy is a little ticked we got Jerry Gray, and feels certain we'll end up with Clements at CB. Remains to be seen...

Landing Moulds would give me the edge in my next call to Bills HQ, though!

[redskin_rich]

My source in Buffalo informs me that Moulds has been assured that all will change/be forgiven under the new regime, and that he's not going anywhere...

Moulds had problems with Mularkey and the situation with Losman. I can only wonder how much anger lingers, and how willing he would be to stay patient if/when we make Campbell our starter.

Along the same lines, my Buffalo buddy is a little ticked we got Jerry Gray, and feels certain we'll end up with Clements at CB. Remains to be seen...

Landing Moulds would give me the edge in my next call to Bills HQ, though!
What about Moulds salary? I believe he is a 10 Mil cap hit this year for Buffalo. he would have to agree to an extension to fix that and I'm not so sure he would, especially when he can go somewhere else and have a chance to win.

[RicFlairOne]

Yeah I keep waiting for a TerryFunk to show up.lol

Funk's grill. Better'd stop talking rasslin' since this is a skins site. Maybe we can talk a little racin' here and make sure that everyone pulls for that Joe Gibbs owned #20 car driven by Tony Stewart. Don't really like racin', but will pull for him since Gibbs owns his car. Back to the subject here, seen some posts about Moulds - he would be an upgrade too. He still has a few good seasons left in him I think.

[danny's stogie]

Colts | Wayne likely to be franchised
Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:36:44 -0800

ESPN's John Clayton reports the Indianapolis Colts are expected to use their franchise tag on WR Reggie Wayne, who is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent, if they are unable to work out a long-term deal with him before free agency begins.

Per KFFL. I haven't seen anything on ESPN though.


http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

[santanadasavior]

Per KFFL. I haven't seen anything on ESPN though.


http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

They won't need to use their tag for a while now I don't think. I think that they will take this to th elast day possible to try to work on a long term deal.

[cactusjack]

With ESPN quoting James as saying his days in INDY are over it should be clear the Colts are gonna do what it takes to keep Wayne.

[santanadasavior]

With ESPN quoting James as saying his days in INDY are over it should be clear the Colts are gonna do what it takes to keep Wayne.

I saw that. That's a mistake. The PTI guys said that this shows that they are putting the team in Peyton Mannings hands. If he goes down they're screwed now.

[bgforever]

I saw that. That's a mistake. The PTI guys said that this shows that they are putting the team in Peyton Mannings hands. If he goes down they're screwed now.


Remember what happened to the Miami Dolphins and Dan Marino

Over and over, they kept blaming another source or focusing on accommodating Marino, even getting rid of Shula (nudging him out), yet by the time they figured it out (with Jimmy Johnson also biting the bullet), Marino was in knee braces, the Marx Bros was back to being a comedy group and the defense was as good as spaghetti, all you had to do was add sauce.

So we will see this season how this works out when the Skins come to town. I am sure there will he hype to protect Polians behind, so it will be given extra priority. Even if the Skins are to blame for a poor passing day from Manning. Oh, of course we won't get credit for it, it will be that we are LUCKY, like their horseshoe. Hmmm, who's fooling who?