Cheney Accidentally Shoots Fellow Hunter

[tommahawk]

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and injured a man during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, his spokeswoman said Sunday.

Harry Whittington, 78, was "alert and doing fine" after Cheney sprayed Whittington with shotgun pellets on Saturday at the Armstrong Ranch in south Texas, said property owner Katharine Armstrong.

Armstrong said Cheney turned to shoot a bird and accidentally hit Whittington. She said Whittington was taken to Corpus Christi Memorial Hospital by ambulance.



http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=breakingnews&id=20060212/43eec0d0_3ca6_155262006021214076821

The same impulsive behavior that has us in Iraq.... I'm not suprised.

[Axegrinder]

http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=breakingnews&id=20060212/43eec0d0_3ca6_155262006021214076821

The same impulsive behavior that has us in Iraq.... I'm not suprised.
He probably couldn't hit the cup on a urine test either.

[BurgundyNGold]

I bet it comes out that Cheney and his group of lackies were out hunting real human game, lol.

[Axegrinder]

Cheney:Another sponsored member of the NRA.

[BurgundyNGold]

Cheney:Another sponsored member of the NRA.
Yeah, but he was hunting which is OK. Shooting someone who is cleverly camouflaged in bright orange just makes him stupid, lol.

[Axegrinder]

Yeah, but he was hunting which is OK. Shooting someone who is cleverly camouflaged in bright orange just makes him stupid, lol.
He must have been to the firing range with Texas Tech coach Bobby Knight.

[Spence]

I bet it comes out that Cheney and his group of lackies were out hunting real human game, lol.That was my first thought, too. How do we know this was an accident? Shouldn't we at least consider the possibility that Dick Cheney likes to hunt humans and eat their flesh in his underground sarcophagus?

[BurgundyNGold]

That was my first thought, too. How do we know this was an accident? Shouldn't we at least consider the possibility that Dick Cheney likes to hunt humans and eat their flesh in his underground sarcophagus?
Get outta my head!
Get outta my head!

:lol1:

[akhhorus]

That was my first thought, too. How do we know this was an accident? Shouldn't we at least consider the possibility that Dick Cheney likes to hunt humans and eat their flesh in his underground sarcophagus?

Remember my badly done photoshop Picture of Dick...Cheney? And frankly, I still would like to see Cheney in real, direct sunlight. I don't think he can exist in that.

[dukeuch]

Good thing they weren't hunting deer!

[VTBob]

Remember my badly done photoshop Picture of Dick...Cheney? And frankly, I still would like to see Cheney in real, direct sunlight. I don't think he can exist in that.

I think he's like Dr. Moreau, he's gotta wear like 10 layers of sunblock to avoid disentigrating...

[Spence]

Slap 70 or 80 pounds on Cheney and you've got Nosferatu. Also, I have it on excellent authority that he doesn't cast a reflection in mirrors. Little-known fact.

[dukeuch]

Turns out (from what I've read) that the VPs office didn't report the incident until about 24 hours later, and then only after a local newspaper wrote about it. They claim (I guess) it was proper for them to defer to the property owner's right to decide when to announce the incident(!?). Wonder what that's all about?

[Spence]

Yeah, I guess we weren't supposed to know about this:The more than 18-hour delay in news emerging that the Vice President of the United States had shot a man, sending him to an intensive care unit with his wounds, grew even more curious late Sunday. E&P has learned that the official confirmation of the shooting came about only after a local reporter in Corpus Christi, Texas, received a tip from the owner of the property where the shooting occured and called Vice President Cheney's office for confirmation.

The confirmation was made but there was no indication whether the Vice President's office, the White House, or anyone else intended to announce the shooting if the reporter, Jaime Powell of the Corpus Christ Caller-Times, had not received word from the ranch owner.Source (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001995719)

[CNYSkinFan]

Hmmmmm there is a lot of smoke here....but maybe a little fire as well. At the very least I would like to know whether the initial story is true, that the other hunter was at fault for not signalling Cheney that he was going forward. The long delay is going to have ALOT of people wondering what is going on.

[Spence]

The late night comics will get their chance tonight, but so far, the best line about all this belongs to former Reagan admin spokesman Jim Brady, who now campaigns for gun control:

"Now I understand why Dick Cheney keeps asking me to go hunting with him." (http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=60875)

[RedskinsDave]

I think they should have gone running and screaming to the press that the veep shot someone while hunting. Afterall, they know the press would be fair in their reporting right? HA HA HA HA

[Spence]

Well, Dave, how do you think the media will react after they learn that the Bush admin didn't want to announce it at all? I mean, the President..I mean, the Vice President of the United States shoots someone. Are we so deep into the Bush family monarchy that such a thing is not considered newsworthy?

[RedskinsDave]

I think taking time to get all the facts straight as well as see how the man was doing medically was probably the more prudent route. I don't see any reason to think the admin would care if the media ever found out about this or anything they do for that matter.

[dukeuch]

It's hilarious how far backwards everyone involved seems to be bending to make sure everyone knows that Cheney didn't do anything wrong, or out of the ordinary.

The sheriff involved says such accidents occur "not frequently, but often" (what the hell does that mean?)

The ranch owner is making it abundantly clear that it is more the guy who got shot's fault for "coming up behind unnanounced" than Cheney's. Man, I'm not a hunter, but I used to go out occasionally with my bonehead high school buddies early in the morning and be the "driver" for (mostly non-existent) deer. All I can say is that despite all of our extremely hung-over states, nobody ever came close to shooting in the direction of the other three or four guys involved, including the time those numbskulls took a combined 22 shoots at the same deer without hitting it. They always KNEW where the other guys were.

Some of the folks involved are saying that getting shot occasionally "comes with the territory", as if anyone hunting quail does so expecting to at one time or another to get hit themselves!

Describing the wounds, somebody (I think a family member) described them as "like chicken pox". All I can say to that is, concerning my kid, I'll take the traditional chicken pox over the lead-based kind any day of the week.

My bet: Cheney never comes out and says "I made a mistake."

[CNYSkinFan]

I think they should have gone running and screaming to the press that the veep shot someone while hunting. Afterall, they know the press would be fair in their reporting right? HA HA HA HA

I actually thought they were pretty fair in reporting the initial incident but now that the time delay came out the worm is starting to turn. I think the WH made a tactical mistake here by not getting out in front of this.

[BurgundyNGold]

Are there any truth to the reports that Cheney was running around the ranch both before and after the incident yelling "Where's my money, Brian?!"

:D

[CNYSkinFan]

Are there any truth to the reports that Cheney was running around the ranch both before and after the incident yelling "Where's my money, Brian?!"

:D
someone's campaign check bounced and Cheney was sent to collect.

[dukeuch]

I cannot wait until The Daily Show tonight!

[CNYSkinFan]

I cannot wait until The Daily Show tonight!
yeah i was thinking the same thing.

[Axegrinder]

Cheney was reported to be hunting quail.
Dan Quayle.

[BurgundyNGold]

Cheney was reported to be hunting quail.
Dan Quayle.
Ha! I thought the GOP would've "taken him hunting" along time ago, lol.

[Spence]

A hunter friend of mine tells me you hunt quail very carefully, since they tend to move very quickly. You try to keep in your head an idea of where your fellow hunters are and where they are not. Where they are not is the safe fire area. The news stories describe Cheney as following a bird as it was flushed from cover and essentially following it until he had turned his body around and fired in the opposite direction of the one he had been facing. In other words, he fired outside his safe fire area. Mistake.

My friend also tells me that unless someone has really screwed up royally, hunting mistakes are the fault of the person who fired the gun. Hunters are responsible for knowing who is in their line of fire. He also tells me that this sort of thing is not exactly rare.

So that's one hunter's opinion.

[BurgundyNGold]

A hunter friend of mine tells me you hunt quail very carefully, since they tend to move very quickly. You try to keep in your head an idea of where your fellow hunters are and where they are not. Where they are not is the safe fire area. The news stories describe Cheney as following a bird as it was flushed from cover and essentially following it until he had turned his body around and fired in the opposite direction of the one he had been facing. In other words, he fired outside his safe fire area. Mistake.

My friend also tells me that unless someone has really screwed up royally, hunting mistakes are the fault of the person who fired the gun. Hunters are responsible for knowing who is in their line of fire. He also tells me that this sort of thing is not exactly rare.

So that's one hunter's opinion.
It sounds like poor weapons discipline. His adrenaline go the better of him and someone got shot. That sounds about par for him, expect that only 1 person got shot instead of 10,000.

[Axegrinder]

Guns don't shoot people.

[BurgundyNGold]

Guns don't shoot people.
That's only h

[Spence]

They don't disappoint:
Jon Stewart: "I'm joined now by our own vice-presidential firearms mishap analyst, Rob Corddry. Rob, obviously a very unfortunate situation. How is the vice president handling it?

Rob Corddry: "Jon, tonight the vice president is standing by his decision to shoot Harry Wittington. According to the best intelligence available, there were quail hidden in the brush. Everyone believed at the time there were quail in the brush.

"And while the quail turned out to be a 78-year-old man, even knowing that today, Mr. Cheney insists he still would have shot Mr. Whittington in the face. He believes the world is a better place for his spreading buckshot throughout the entire region of Mr. Whittington's face."

Jon Stewart: "But why, Rob? If he had known Mr. Whittington was not a bird, why would he still have shot him?"

Rob Corddry: "Jon, in a post-9-11 world, the American people expect their leaders to be decisive. To not have shot his friend in the face would have sent a message to the quail that America is weak..."

[CNYSkinFan]

They don't disappoint:
yeah I was dieing last night watching it
vice-presidential firearms mishap analyst, Rob Corddry

I love their titles. Just hilarious. THe funny thing is Jon Stewart's title for the story was "Cheney's Got a Gun." and CNN was running the same damn title this morning.

[Spence]

White House spokesman Scott McClellan seemed to be telling the press yesterday that the OVP screwed up and he was not going to take the blame for it.
In an extraordinary White House press briefing, it seems to us thatScott McClellan did everything but say outright that Vice President's office bungled the release of information about the Texas hunting accident, and that he would have preferred the White House notified the press much earlier.

To the astonishment of the White House press corps, McClellan implied that he was first informed about the incident late Saturday night...but it took a while before he knew that Cheney was not himself injured...and that he was informed Sunday morning that Cheney was the shooter.

McClellan said that Cheney himself asked the ranch owner, Katherine Armstrong, to call the local paper and inform them.

And he also, repeatedly, shifted responsibility for the chain of events onto the vice president and his staff.

Several times, McClellan said a variation of this line: "The vice president felt that Ms. Armstrong was the right persont to put the person out." A CNN correspondent pointed out that Armstrong said that the VP's staff did not know that she was going to talk to the press. The contradiction was left unresolved.

McClellan did not know about a report that the Secret Service prevented a deputy sheriff from interviewing Cheney.

Oft-repeated lines:

"If you got specifics about this, you've got to direct them to the vice president's office."

"I'm not going to get into discussions about specific suggestions I've made."Source (http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/02/mcclellan_i_ain.html)

[Spence]

Cheney's office has acknowledged they expect the Veep to be fined by the state of Texas. Maybe we can all get together and send in some money to help out:
Cheney lacked the requisite stamp to hunt upland game bird; he expects to be fined $7 by Texas officials. (See the VP's office release below.) BTW: how weird is that the FIRST release by the VP's office is a terse bureaucratic acknowledgement of a game warning, and not a statement of sympathy for the victim? Or maybe we just don't get the VP....

It's still unclear why it took three hours for senior WH officials to be notified about the basic narrative. And why WH press sec. Scott McClellan was not fully informed until 6:00 am Sunday.Source (http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/02/cheney_expects.html)

[CNYSkinFan]

$7? I will sepnd more on lunch today. pretty disgusting. I thought A fine was supposed to be punitive enough to warrant correction in the future.

[Spence]

It's Texas, dude. Shooting someone INTENTIONALLY is only a $500 fine now. You just mail it in.

[Spence]

Jimmy Kimmel actually told some funny jokes, apparently:
"It's part of the president's new Social Security plan. Once you hit 78, kablamo."
* * *
"Luckily, the guy he shot was wearing the body armor that never got shipped to the troops."
* * *
"You know what they say, if Dick Cheney comes out of his hole and shoots an old man in the face, 6 more weeks of winter."
More Jon Stewart:
The other player in the drama? Ranch owner and eyewitness Katharine Armstrong.

Katharine Armstrong: "We were shooting a covey of quail. The vice president and two others got out of the car to walk up the covey."

Jon Stewart: "What kind of hunting story begins with getting out of your car? As I sighted the great beast before us, my shaking hands could barely engage the parking brake. Slowly, I turned off the A/C and silenced my sub-woofers…"
Leno only had one good one [shocker]:
"Something I just found out today about the incident. Do you know that Dick Cheney tortured the guy for a half hour before he shot him?"

Only one semi-decent one from Letterman:
"The guy who got gunned down is a Republican lawyer and a big Republican donor and fortunately the buck shot was deflected by wads of laundered cash. So he's fine. He took a little in the wallet."
Source (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB113988242820273069-uV6g3R3JvkijUuStCosUy3Gv2Bs_20070213.html?mod=blog s)

[RedskinsDave]

Letterman and Leno disappointed.

FYI, it was a birdshot and not a buckshot. A buckshot probably would've killed him.

[Spence]

Letterman and Leno disappointed.

FYI, it was a birdshot and not a buckshot. A buckshot probably would've killed him.Buckshot is for bucks, I guess. :)
Leno doesn't disappoint me since I never expect anything from him. Letterman has gone downhill faster than a gold-medal skiier. [How's that for topical references?] Those were the best I could come up with for them. The others were worse.

[CNYSkinFan]

I thought Letterman's Top Ten was pretty funny


10. "Heart palpitation caused trigger finger to spasm"
9. "Wanted to get the Iraq mess off the front page"
8. "Not enough Jim Beam"
7. "Trying to stop the spread of bird flu"
6. "I love to shoot people"
5. "Guy was making cracks about my lesbian daughter"
4. "I thought the guy was trying to go 'gay cowboy' on me"
3. "Excuse? I hit him, didn't I?"
2. "Until Democrats approve medicare reform, we have to make some tough choices for the elderly"
1. "Made a bet with Gretzky's wife"


I think Akh would like #8 espescially.

[CNYSkinFan]

I agree about Leno. I have NEVER found him funny, ever. Maybe the dorito commercials....nope not even then. I did think his aim joke with Clinton in it was mildly amusing.

[BurgundyNGold]

3. "Until Democrats approve medicare reform, we have to make some tough choices for the elderly."
:lol1:

[VTBob]

Leno, Letterman...hell, any late-night host other than Conan, stick.


CONAN FOR LIFE!!!

oh and Jon Stewart is hilarious of course, but he's a news show not a late night host ;)

[Spence]

Here's a shocker. The White House blames the victim of the Cheney shooting. Hunting experts disagree:
The White House blamed the 78-year-old man whom Vice President Dick Cheney shot during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas for the incident, as officials struggled Monday to explain why they waited nearly 24 hours before making the news public.

White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan tried to absolve Cheney of blame for shooting wealthy Austin lawyer Harry Whittington, saying that hunting "protocol was not followed by Mr. Whittington when it came to notifying others that he was there. And so, you know, unfortunately, these types of hunting accidents happen from time to time."

Several hunting experts were skeptical of McClellan's explanation. They said Cheney might have violated a cardinal rule of hunting: Know your surroundings before you pull the trigger.

"Particularly identify the game that you are shooting and particularly identify your surroundings, that it's safe to shoot," said Mark Birkhauser, the incoming president of the International Hunter Education Association, a group of fish and wildlife agencies. "Every second, you're adjusting your personal information that it is a safe area to shoot or it's not a safe area to shoot."

Safe-hunting rules published by the National Rifle Association and the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department echo Birkhauser's advice.

"Be absolutely sure you have identified your target beyond any doubt," the NRA says in the gun-safety rules on its Web site. "Equally important, be aware of the area beyond your target. This means observing your prospective area of fire before you shoot. Never fire in a direction in which there are people or any other potential for mishap. Think first. Shoot second."

On its 10 Commandments of Shooting Safety, Texas Parks and Wildlife lists being sure of your target as the third commandment. "Know what is in front and behind your target. Determine that you have a safe backstop or background."Source (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/13863636.htm)

[OCSkinzFan]

Here's a shocker. The White House blames the victim of the Cheney shooting. Hunting experts disagree:
Source (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/13863636.htm)
It's all Clinton's fault...:rolleyes:

[BurgundyNGold]

Incredible. Maybe next time, the guy should yell out periodically "Hey, I'm right here guys!". Then again, I think might hinder the whole stealth tactic that is supposed to accompany hunting. :rolleyes:

[CNYSkinFan]

Incredible. Maybe next time, the guy should yell out periodically "Hey, I'm right here guys!". Then again, I think might hinder the whole stealth tactic that is supposed to accompany hunting. :rolleyes:
While the blare of the SUV engine as they drove up might have done that.

[BurgundyNGold]

While the blare of the SUV engine as they drove up might have done that.
For some reason I just got a mental picture of W and Cheney driving up to a hunting pasture in a Hummer blaring the Gob and Franklin Bluth duet, lol.

[CNYSkinFan]

For some reason I just got a mental picture of W and Cheney driving up to a hunting pasture in a Hummer blaring the Gob and Franklin Bluth duet, lol.
great reference!!!!

It's either that or Afternoon Delight.

[BurgundyNGold]

great reference!!!!

It's either that or Afternoon Delight.
Now that's creepy, lol.

[CNYSkinFan]

even George Clooney gets in on the act:


Known as one of Hollywood's most stalwart liberals, Clooney drew a laugh at a pre-lunch press conference when he said, "I am bringing Dick Cheney as my date. He was so nice. He called me and invited me to go hunting."

The hunting reference was to Cheney's accidental shooting of a companion during a quail-hunting party over the weekend.



SOURCE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060214/en_nm/leisure_oscars_dc)

[CNYSkinFan]

CNN is reporting the guy Cheney shot just had a "minor" heart attack...no link yet.

[Fathead]

I thought americans in general approved of shooting lawyers. What's the problem?

[CNYSkinFan]

meanwhile local authorities have cleared Cheney of any wrong doing


CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (CNN) -- Authorities have cleared Vice President Dick Cheney of wrongdoing in the Texas shooting of a hunting companion, while reporters aimed tough questions at White House officials about their delay in disclosing the accident.

During Tuesday's White House news conference, spokesman Scott McClellan was asked if waiting 14 hours after the shooting before Cheney spoke with police was appropriate, and whether an average citizen would have been afforded the same amount of time.

"That was what was arranged with the local law enforcement authorities," McClellan said. "You ought to ask them that question."



SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/14/cheney/index.html)

[Spence]

Just said a little prayer for the old guy. No idea if that sort of thing helps, but it can't hurt. All these jokes aside, this guy is in far worse condition than the White House led people to believe.

[CNYSkinFan]

Just said a little prayer for the old guy. No idea if that sort of thing helps, but it can't hurt. All these jokes aside, this guy is in far worse condition than the White House led people to believe.
Apparently some of the buckshot has migrated to his heart and caused the hear attack.

I am not sure many 78 year olds can withstand being peppered with birdshot, the shock alone could be enough to do them in. For birdshot to be in the bloodstream even after treatment is much more then the grazing that some pundits are trying to make this out to be.

[RedskinsDave]

Just said a little prayer for the old guy. No idea if that sort of thing helps, but it can't hurt. All these jokes aside, this guy is in far worse condition than the White House led people to believe.

This could become unfunny real fast.

[CNYSkinFan]

This could become unfunny real fast.
too true....too true.

[CNYSkinFan]

Abc has a small article up now


CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas Feb 14, 2006 (AP)— The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had a "minor heart attack," a hospital official said Tuesday.
Peter Banko, the hospital administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial, said Harry Whittington had the heart attack early Tuesday while being evaluated.
He said there was an irregularity in the heartbeat caused by a birdshot pellet, and doctors performed a cardiac catheterization. Whittington expressed a desire to leave the hospital, but Banko said he would probably stay for another week.


SOURCE (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1617733)

[BurgundyNGold]

This could become unfunny real fast.
I never thought this was funny, especially since I don't know anything about the guy Cheney shot. Getting shot is brutal. Catching a shotgun blast of anything -- even rocksalt is even moreso. I wish him the best, though.

[Spence]

This is why people who hate Fox News just don't appreciate it properly. You CANNOT invent stuff like this and you can only see it at one place.
CAVUTO: This is a Fox News alert. The lawyer accidentally hit by Vice President Dick Cheney suffering a mild heart attack this morning. Doctors say he's doing just fine and could be released in a week. Meanwhile, the White House press corps again beating a dead horse as it tries to find out why they were not told right away about the Vice President's hunting accident. Not one person bothering to ask, in the meantime, how Dick Cheney's feeling about all this. After all, he's a human being and injuring someone else in an accident can take a huge toll.

[VTBob]

hahaha, I bet Cavuto would gladly fellatiate Cheney to make sure he is feeling a-ok

[CNYSkinFan]

wow....i would love to comment but ....wow.

Where is that fox blocker again?

[RedskinsDave]

Vampires have feelings too ya know.

[Keino]

Vampires have feelings too ya know.

Put the Anne Rice Novel down.........

[VTBob]

The handling of the situation also raised questions about whether Cheney had been drinking at the time of the shooting, about 5:50 p.m. Cheney told Fox he had had a beer at lunch, but the hunt did not begin until "sometime after 3 p.m."

...
Cheney was not asked Wednesday about the fact that he was not interviewed by police until the morning after the shooting.

SOURCE: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/15/cheney/index.html



...the plot thickens, this makes things even worse...

[RedskinsDave]

Yeah, that's really going to go somewhere. :rolleyes:

Even if he was drinking and even if his friend does die, it doesn't matter. Right Mr. Kennedy?

[Spence]

Yeah, that's really going to go somewhere. :rolleyes:

Even if he was drinking and even if his friend does die, it doesn't matter. Right Mr. Kennedy?I guess it would matter to generations of Democrats, who could make drunk Cheney jokes for the next 40 years. :)

[Axegrinder]

Yeah, that's really going to go somewhere. :rolleyes:

Even if he was drinking and even if his friend does die, it doesn't matter. Right Mr. Kennedy?
Wow....
Time Warp.
How convenient.

[RedskinsDave]

I guess it would matter to generations of Democrats, who could make drunk Cheney jokes for the next 40 years. :)

Yeah but Ted gave a lot more reasons than Chappaquitick (sp) for those. :beer:

[Spence]

Did anyone else catch Cheney's "interview" on Fox News? What was with the soft pink necktie? Is that a new style I'm unaware of or is a soft pink tie a subliminal way of saying "I'm sorry I shot that old man in the face"?

Because I REALLY hope that isn't a new style.

[RedskinsDave]

The funny thing is there were probably a few meetings, some spreadsheets done, polls taken, coins tossed and everything to decide what tie Cheney would wear for the interview.

[dukeuch]

Anyone else find it humerous that the ER doc describing Wittington's wounds said that he recieved between five and "150-200" pellets?

Now that's some mighty fine doctorin' there!

[CNYSkinFan]

Yeah, that's really going to go somewhere. :rolleyes:

Even if he was drinking and even if his friend does die, it doesn't matter. Right Mr. Kennedy?
It would be an explanation for the delay, but i really think the real explanation is arrogance. The fact tat the WH believes instead of serving the people they were elected by that they are somehow above those people and thus are not accountable for anything they do, inluding shooting your friend in the face apparently.

[Keino]

Geez CNY. He feels bad enough, you actually want him to be accountable too?

[CNYSkinFan]

Geez CNY. He feels bad enough, you actually want him to be accountable too?
hey...he is a human too...right Neal Cavuto?

[RedskinsDave]

Sorry to inform you guys that it's already been ruled an accident.

[Spence]

Of course it's an accident. Nobody seriously believes Cheney shot the old guy intentionally. I mean, he might have done it a few years ago, but that's why they have Cheney on medicine -- so that stuff doesn't happen anymore. Before the medicine, Cheney used to kill and eat six puppies a day. True story.

[RedskinsDave]

Of course it's an accident. Nobody seriously believes Cheney shot the old guy intentionally. I mean, he might have done it a few years ago, but that's why they have Cheney on medicine -- so that stuff doesn't happen anymore. Before the medicine, Cheney used to kill and eat six puppies a day. True story.

I have a reliable source that it would be as low as three if he started with a baby seal appetizer.

[dukeuch]

By the way, I keep hearing about "other unamed members of the hunting party", any theories on why we have not heard any statements form them, or why they have not been identified?

[Ibleedburgundy]

By the way, I keep hearing about "other unamed members of the hunting party", any theories on why we have not heard any statements form them, or why they have not been identified?

They're still sobering up.

[VTBob]

By the way, I keep hearing about "other unamed members of the hunting party", any theories on why we have not heard any statements form them, or why they have not been identified?

they've all been eliminated; or as Dr. Evil would put it, "they were insolent...I had them liquidated."

[Spence]

From the OUCH! file:Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, a Republican and Vietnam war veteran, told The Omaha World-Herald, "If he'd [Cheney] been in the military, he would have learned gun safety."Source (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=2300&u_sid=100089382)

[PGiddy18]

Whittington released from Hospital:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-02/18/content_4195229.htm

There actually was a picture of him on AOL: That doesn't look pretty.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6612/harrywhittington9xg.th.png (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=harrywhittington9xg.png)

[RedskinsDave]

Whittington released from Hospital:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-02/18/content_4195229.htm

There actually was a picture of him on AOL: That doesn't look pretty.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6612/harrywhittington9xg.th.png (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=harrywhittington9xg.png)

I'd say for getting hit in the face a week ago, that he looks pretty good.

[RedskinsDave]

I heard Stephen Hunter, the author and Wash Post film critic basically say that what happened can and does happen when bird hunting because, instead of using a scope to shoot like a deer, you shoot while following the bird clear of the ground. He said he almost peppered his dog a few years back because he was following the bird clear and did not see his dog. He also said that Whittington could have been in a chartreuse gown with a pink boa and he still wouldn't have been seen due to the way birds are hunted. Of course that would have meant he was hunting with Barney Frank and not Cheney.

[HAWGZHEAD]

I heard Stephen Hunter, the author and Wash Post film critic basically say that what happened can and does happen when bird hunting because, instead of using a scope to shoot like a deer, you shoot while following the bird clear of the ground. He said he almost peppered his dog a few years back because he was following the bird clear and did not see his dog. He also said that Whittington could have been in a chartreuse gown with a pink boa and he still wouldn't have been seen due to the way birds are hunted. Of course that would have meant he was hunting with Barney Frank and not Cheney. I came real close to shooting one of my friends rabbit hunting one time. Sometimes the thrill of the chase gets the better of your judgement and awareness.

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I came real close to shooting one of my friends rabbit hunting one time. Sometimes the thrill of the chase gets the better of your judgement and awareness.
I almost got my uncle rabbit hunting too. He said he could hear the bullet wizzin' just over his head. (He was walking up the back of the bluff I was shooting toward.) The bad thing is, I knew he was there but I didn't know how close. I was eleven and it seemed like a logical calculated risk. My dad didn't take me hunting for a year.

I wonder if Cheney's dad is gonna punish him.