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joethefan
02-13-2006, 03:18 PM
Do you think it's wise to draft a wr in the 2nd knowing what we have to do on offense this year?...

Personally, i feel alot will be riding on the no. 2 wr this year. And I'm not sure I would draft a kid and expect him to immediatly fit in to make a huge impact in the year coming... I would feel alot better with a vet. it's my hope that we fill that position via FA. and the no 2 pick can be used for the DE. Also I do expect a TE and OL help to be picked in the draft. and maybe another corner as well. Remember we are two games away from the SB. We gotta keep the momenum going ahead.

smoak
02-13-2006, 03:19 PM
The percentage of WRs who make an impact in year 1 is way too low to think a rookie is the solution.

Just MO, but I want a veteran WR.

akhhorus
02-13-2006, 03:20 PM
We shouldn't reach for one in the 2nd round, but I think you have to consider a complementary wr for moss as a top priority along with a pass rushing DE for the offseason.

joethefan
02-13-2006, 03:23 PM
We shouldn't reach for one in the 2nd round, but I think you have to consider a complementary wr for moss as a top priority along with a pass rushing DE for the offseason.


so are you saying use FA for both positions?....

BraveSkin76
02-13-2006, 03:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned, it has always been about a free agent wide receiver for a variety of reasons stated above and talked about in this forum. I want someone with experience--who won't succumb to the pressure that an early 1st day WR would. It is a skill position that probably is the 2nd most difficult to fill in the draft (next to QB). This draft is the weakest at the WR position.

Get a David Givens or an Antonio Bryant via FA, draft a pass-rushing DE in the 2nd (or 3rd round) and a cornerback in the 3rd (or 2nd) and we'll be able to come close to filling our other areas of need.

MoeRedskins
02-13-2006, 03:28 PM
The third round is usually the round that WR from smaller schools get taken b/c GMs don't know if the competition they faced was the reason they were good or it is b/c they are good (TO, Steve Smith, Marty Booker were all 3rd picks from smaller schools) so I could see the Skins addressing the issue in that way(I would if I were them). Bring in a kid from a small school, train him for a little bit, sign a vet WR this offseason, and then bring up the young WR when he is ready. I don't know of any WR from smaller schools that merit a 3rd round pick this year, but there usually is one.

joethefan
02-13-2006, 03:31 PM
As far as I'm concerned, it has always been about a free agent wide receiver for a variety of reasons stated above and talked about in this forum. I want someone with experience--who won't succumb to the pressure that an early 1st day WR would. It is a skill position that probably is the 2nd most difficult to fill in the draft (next to QB). This draft is the weakest at the WR position.

Get a David Givens or an Antonio Bryant via FA, draft a pass-rushing DE in the 2nd (or 3rd round) and a cornerback in the 3rd (or 2nd) and we'll be able to come close to filling our other areas of need.


Do you think Bryant would be the answer?...remember the dallas rule...(no Dallas rejects)

akhhorus
02-13-2006, 03:32 PM
so are you saying use FA for both positions?....

Maybe. I would prefer the Skins fill their holes with cheapish Free agents(You can get a pass rushing DE like Kalu or Kampman relatively cheap) and a WR like Kevin Curtis or Toomer(if he's cut) and take the best player available with our 2nd rounder.

CNYSkinFan
02-13-2006, 03:34 PM
I rather solve our WR problem through FA and draft the best young pass rushing DE on the board when our #2 spot comes up. Neither position needs a major overhaul, just one impact player. I think we can do well withg our current DEs if we have a young pass rusher on a rotation in there.

MWballer
02-13-2006, 03:59 PM
Our number 2 WR will come through FA and as some have said may already be here in Patten. The draft is very deep at the other positions we need to address, such as, TE, CB and DE so they'll most likely be addressed through draft. WR is a weak position in this draft and I dont think we should draft a WR at all in my oppinion.

BurgundyNGold
02-13-2006, 04:49 PM
We shouldn't reach for one in the 2nd round, but I think you have to consider a complementary wr for moss as a top priority along with a pass rushing DE for the offseason.
Agreed, with OL depth a close 3rd.

RedskinRyan
02-13-2006, 04:55 PM
The third round is usually the round that WR from smaller schools get taken b/c GMs don't know if the competition they faced was the reason they were good or it is b/c they are good (TO and Rice were both 3rd picks) so I could see the Skins addressing the issue in that way(I would if I were them). Bring in a kid from a small school, train him for a little bit, sign a vet WR this offseason, and then bring up the young WR when he is ready. I don't know of any WR from smaller schools that merit a 3rd round pick this year, but there usually is one.

jerry rice was a 1st round pick

my preference is to sign a FA receiver that could contribute right away, like david givens or antonio bryant(my top choice is jureviscious though). but i still would like for us to draft a WR on the first day. although drafting a corner in the 2nd would be pretty nice if we could find ourselves another fred smoot. if kelly jennings(a U product) is available, he could be a possibility. but i think a DE on the first day is an absolute must, cause we need to get some youth there.

fent
02-13-2006, 06:30 PM
jerry rice was a 1st round pick.

and we're lucky he was taken when he was. the Dallas GM had an interview about a year ago talking about how they had Rice's card in hand to use on their pick immediately after San Fran announced theirs only to find out that SF had taken him.

BurgundyNGold
02-13-2006, 07:40 PM
and we're lucky he was taken when he was. the Dallas GM had an interview about a year ago talking about how they had Rice's card in hand to use on their pick immediately after San Fran announced theirs only to find out that SF had taken him.
I think Jerry Rice's career would've been very different in Dallass. He was the ultimate WR for the WCO, which Dallass was not under either Landry or Johnson. In fact, Dallass was not very good from the time he was drafted in '85 until '91 or '92 and by then he was already a 7 year vet.

EberKain
02-13-2006, 11:09 PM
Im just greedy cause I want both.

BigCountry
02-14-2006, 01:47 AM
Typically a second round defensive end will have a chance to make a much bigger impact then a second round wide reciever. However, even if we do sign a veteran number 2 wide reciever in free agency, this offense could still be in need of more weapons. When healthy, David Patten is one of the more dangerous slot recievers in the league but his status is uncertain. You also gotta remember that the draft is about alot more then taking your number one need with your highest pick.

Patrick
02-14-2006, 07:14 AM
I agree with Akh about "Reaching" for a player - ANY player. A BIG SHOULDN'T! ...... In the second round (where we are drafting) IF the best player on the board is a WR - then yes I'd draft him - OF COURSE he has to be one that fits the system and they done their homework on him. (I REALLY think that was the problem with Jacobs - not enough researched). ........ I also think that if you got a Problem Weakness -the best way to solve it is through FA ............That is of course there is a quality player available and as ALWAYS - must fit the system!

Play Action
02-14-2006, 01:14 PM
It looks like Saunders can get production out of an offense without having multiple star quality WRs. He only had one really tall WR and that guy didn't catch a lot of balls. Most were around 5'11-6ft as I recall. Didn't he say that his style of Offense relied more upon "quick rather than fast" and good route runners? If so, then Skins might be able to pick up an acceptable complement to Moss and Patten in round 4 (if we traded for a 4th). What about Ben Obamanu from Auburn? Or, Skyler Green from LSU? WRs that have some faults but could contribute to the team. Skins could use the higher picks on DE/DT/TE/G. Of course, if the Skins get their desired WR in free agency they may not pick any WRs in the draft.

MoeRedskins
02-14-2006, 04:03 PM
jerry rice was a 1st round pick


Noted as I have updated my post with recent 3rd picks from small schools. As I don't like to research anything thank you for calling my bluff and making look like a fool infront of the whole message board.