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Spence
02-14-2006, 11:16 AM
From his earliest days in office, George W. Bush has talked a good game about transforming the military. He even hired a corporate turnaround specialist, Donald Rumsfeld, to accomplish the task. But after Bush proposed a nearly half-trillion dollar defense budget for fiscal 2007 earlier this month—one that doesn’t include many of the costs of the Iraq war—even some of the president’s loyalists were appalled. One of them, Kori Schake, who until recently was director of defense strategy on Bush’s National Security Council, last Thursday wrote a blistering op-ed in The New York Times headlined “Jurassic Pork.” She noted that Rumsfeld's supposedly transformational Quadrennial Defense Review looks little different from four years ago, and that the latest budget “continues programs and practices that have been made obsolete by technology, innovation and field experience.”

But that’s only part of the story. The untold tale is the wastage and overpricing that continue to lard up the Pentagon budget to the tune of perhaps $100 billion, with Congress scarcely paying attention. In some cases, corporate welfare-type programs that were launched in the ’90s—at a time the Clinton administration felt defense contractors needed help because of post-Cold War budget cuts—are still on the books. And today they are feathering the bottom lines of giant companies like Boeing and Lockheed Martin, even though Big Defense has long since returned to health.

Even some well-meaning reform programs have backfired because of lax oversight by the Pentagon. On Tuesday, Congress will begin hearings on a General Accounting Office report concluding that $8 billion in “incentive fees” given to defense companies over the past three-and-a-half years were largely a waste of taxpayer dollars. The fees were intended as a reward to contractors for delivering faster results and coming in under price. Instead, the GAO says, companies were given incentive fees on 597 contracts for doing nothing.Read the whole thing. It's depressing, but important.

Source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11326239/site/newsweek/)

VTBob
02-14-2006, 11:21 AM
I think we should cut the defense budget by 25%, make the military spend its money in a fiscally responsible matter. screw $10,000 toilet seats and Boeing being paid to do nothing, that pisses me off royally...

BurgundyNGold
02-14-2006, 11:22 AM
I've been commenting on the inefficiencies in our government for a long time -- not just the DoD. I deal with it in a variety of agencies every day. The problem is HUGE. I've said before that we could lop off federal spending 20% across the board and nobody would notice a dropoff in service and I fully believe that.

One thing about this article that seems to pop up repeatedly is the fact that nobody ever seems to prune the bush, pardon the pun. We've got 50+ years of federal beauracracy and nobody has the balls to take a red pen to any of it.

Spence
02-14-2006, 11:26 AM
One thing about this article that seems to pop up repeatedly is the fact that nobody ever seems to prune the bush, pardon the pun. We've got 50+ years of federal beauracracy and nobody has the balls to take a red pen to any of it.I thought that was the whole point of the Republican party. :)

BurgundyNGold
02-14-2006, 11:28 AM
I think we should cut the defense budget by 25%, make the military spend its money in a fiscally responsible matter. screw $10,000 toilet seats and Boeing being paid to do nothing, that pisses me off royally...
Most of the time, the condition that leads to the $10K toilet seats -- which is a massively overblown cliche anymore -- is the use it or lose it policy. Basically, if you don't use your budget or find an account to "parK" the money in, you are in danger of getting your funds poached during the next FY or not getting the same level of funding the FY after that. Since nobody wants that, they just throw the money away a lot of times. I must admit, when August and September roll around, I'm glad that the Fed is looking to spend money, because it means more sales for us. At regular prices, of course. Similarly, December tends to be good for private sector EOY spending and June is good for municipal governments.

RedskinsDave
02-14-2006, 11:33 AM
I thought that was the whole point of the Republican party. :)

Which is exactly why conservatives need to take the party back from the neocons.

I saw so much waste at HHS and that was just up in the Office of the Secretary. The contracts given out to companies like STG International without any competitive bids because of the "emergency" loophole were outrageous. I don't think it surprised anyone when two of the people at HHS who had a hand in getting these contracts left to go be overpaid execs with STG. This is a small fraction of the waste I saw. It's sad.

BurgundyNGold
02-14-2006, 12:30 PM
I thought that was the whole point of the Republican party. :)
Well, they've had 50+ plus years to do something along those lines and the top has hardly ever come off the top of the red pen.

BurgundyNGold
02-14-2006, 12:32 PM
Which is exactly why conservatives need to take the party back from the neocons.

I saw so much waste at HHS and that was just up in the Office of the Secretary. The contracts given out to companies like STG International without any competitive bids because of the "emergency" loophole were outrageous. I don't think it surprised anyone when two of the people at HHS who had a hand in getting these contracts left to go be overpaid execs with STG. This is a small fraction of the waste I saw. It's sad.
The whole procurement system needs to be overhauled. The policies on blanket purchase agreements (BPA) and indefinite quanity, indefinite delivery (IDIQ) contracts need to be severly curtailed or eliminated completely. And I don't even want to get into the back scratching and bloating that goes on in 8A contracts.

RedskinsDave
02-14-2006, 12:54 PM
Oh yeah, the company is owned by an asian woman, so her 8a status is fully intact.