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Spence
02-16-2006, 10:10 AM
A clerk's mistake could mean a budget bill President Bush signed isn't technically law, but congressional Republicans said again Wednesday they have no plans to try to fix the problem.

Even though Alabama attorney Jim Zeigler has filed a lawsuit charging the $39 billion deficit-cutting legislation Bush signed is unconstitutional because the House and Senate failed to pass identical versions, House GOP leaders insist there's no problem.

"I believe that it's law," said House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo. Not so, says Zeigler, a Republican activist.

"An eighth-grader in civics class knows that a bill cannot become law unless the identical bill passes the House and Senate and is signed by the president," Zeigler said.
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The White House and House and Senate GOP leaders say the matter is settled because the mistake was technical and that top House and Senate leaders certified the bill before transmitting it to the White House.Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060215/ap_on_go_co/budget)
RedskinsDave
02-16-2006, 10:25 AM
What's the mistake? Is it worth spending thousands of dollars on going through a whole session of each side of the Hill?
Keino
02-16-2006, 10:34 AM
Is it worth spending thousands of dollars on going through a whole session of each side of the Hill?


YES.
RedskinsDave
02-16-2006, 10:39 AM
YES.

Why? So they can change 36 to 13 and pass it again?
Spence
02-16-2006, 10:46 AM
I guess we'll find out. We'll see what, if anything, happens with Mr Zeigler's lawsuit. In any case, is it really too much to ask for the Congress to pass identical bills? I mean, haven't they been doing that for more than 200 years? It's really pathetic. No wonder only 25% of the public approves of Congress in the latest poll. My question is: Who are these 25 percent? Is it mostly just families of members of Congress or are there some 4th-grade dropouts in there, too?
Keino
02-16-2006, 11:47 AM
Why? So they can change 36 to 13 and pass it again?


Well Dave, there are procedures in place for a reason. Hell, with the amount of $$$$ wasted by Governtment in general, a few thousand dollars is a drop in the bucket.

If you filled out your application or 1040 incorrectly you would required to re-submit it, whether the error was clerical or not.

Pass it again. If it's strong legislation that shouldn't be a problem.
RedskinsDave
02-16-2006, 12:15 PM
And apparently one of those procedures is to have the leaders certify the bill, which was done. I think it's a whole lotta nothing but I do agree this is something they should get right the first time.
VTBob
02-16-2006, 01:44 PM
There is a thing called precident. If this is allowed to stand, Congress will just get lazier, and refer back to this nuiance as a reason for slightly different bills being enacted in the future...


REDO IT. Get it right, Congress...
CNYSkinFan
02-16-2006, 02:09 PM
There is a thing called precident. If this is allowed to stand, Congress will just get lazier, and refer back to this nuiance as a reason for slightly different bills being enacted in the future...


REDO IT. Get it right, Congress...
That is the most salient point in the thread so far. Eventually there will be a split house, GOP will control either the Senato or house and Dems will control the other. A split bill could become a tactic to subtly change bills.

PASS IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME OR DO IT AGAIN TILL YOU GET IT RIGHT