Polling the forum....Wuerffel

[PennSkinsFan]

Good Move or not?

[GolfFreak]

Not sure yet ... was shocked when first read about it, but veteran experience can't hurt. Article says that Hamden (sp?) maybe practice squad material making Johnson & Wuerffel the backups. Don't practice squad players have to clear some time of wavier process? If so, we could presumably lose Hamden - right?

I first thought they brought him in as a coach, but oh well. Let's see how it goes.

[truant]

I can't vote yet PSF...

Benjamce- if we put a player on the practice squad i believe there is an inital cut, and we can try to resign them. Even if they are on the PS, another team can still pick them up, if they pick them up and put them on their active roster.

I knew that Hamden was a project, but it seems odd that he can't even hold the #3 job???

But I think that we have a better offense this year and Wuerffel played... well maybe average.

I think that he's at least a less gamble than Rob, just because we don't know how Rob is really going to perform in the offense.

[Spence]

I'm no fan of Rob Johnson, but he came cheap and he's a real NFL quarterback. Only one of those two things can be said about Danny Wuerffel.

[CarMike]

I don't mind the signing of Weurffel.

I also seeing the Skins keeping Hamdan. Either DW or RJ will be the odd man out when it comes time to make a choice.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I'm not sure yet. As I said in the other thread, if he's used in the standard NFL backup QB manner - i.e., he only comes in if Ramsey gets injured - then I have no problem with it, and actually think it's a pretty good move. He can tutor Ramsey and knows the offense well enough to run it as he's needed (hopefully without any plays called for a deep ball). On the other hand, I get the feeling he'll be a temptation for Spurrier all year. One or two bad games for Ramsey, and the Ol' Ball Coach will be looking for his ol' quarterback.... I can just hear his thought process. "Well, last year we had a bad offensive line and no quality speed receivers. This year we have those. Maybe Danny would be better now...."

[CarMike]

I hope Spurrier realizes that the WRs will out run DWs arm strength.....

[Skins57]

I think Rob Johnson career is more suited for giving Defensive lineman sack numbers, Man if Strahan played vs Johnson twice inhis record season he would have had 30 sacks:D I would not be upset to see Johnson go

[truant]

LOL, good points Skins57...

if Rob did play for an extended period of time you know that Bruce would want to play for Philly for at least 2 games...

[mtownskinsfan]

Originally posted by JoeDaSchmoe
I'm not sure yet. As I said in the other thread, if he's used in the standard NFL backup QB manner - i.e., he only comes in if Ramsey gets injured - then I have no problem with it, and actually think it's a pretty good move. He can tutor Ramsey and knows the offense well enough to run it as he's needed (hopefully without any plays called for a deep ball). On the other hand, I get the feeling he'll be a temptation for Spurrier all year. One or two bad games for Ramsey, and the Ol' Ball Coach will be looking for his ol' quarterback.... I can just hear his thought process. "Well, last year we had a bad offensive line and no quality speed receivers. This year we have those. Maybe Danny would be better now...."

Exactly. This is a bad move by the skins. A pretty good offseason maybe destroyed by this move. Why didn't Snyder step in on this one- even he has to know how bad woeful is. Here's an idea: maybe he was available because no other team wanted him. Reason: HE SUCKS!! I was so hoping I'd never see a Redskin uniform on him again, he won't help-he'll distract Ramsey. Now Ram will HAVE to look over his shoulder all the time. Bad move on spurrier's part and he claims he learned something from last year and how bad his exgators were. Either he's very desperate or has a bad memory. Either way, not good for skins or their fans if Ramsey gets hurt or struggles.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I guess it depends on what it means to Hamdan. I like having Wuerffel around, someone that Ramsey can talk to during the game while SS handles HC duties. I still believe that no one knows it better than Wuerffel except SS himself.

That being said, does this move push Hamdan to the PS, or does he stay on as 3rd QB and the loser of Johnson vs. Wuerffel get cut?

My basic feeling is that I like having Wuerffel around as a confidant of Ramsey, someone that doesn't make Ramsey look over his shoulder all season long.

Anyone?

MMW, if Wuerffel retires while SS is still in the NFL, he will join his staff as a QB coach.

[LuvSkins17]

If we can put Ramsey behind the new line and expect him to play better than why can't we expect Wuerffel's game to at least improve "some". Hell, Johnson can't even play with the upgraded O Line. I want to see what Danny does. Hopefully it all works out for the best. At least Ramsey is happy to see him come back so he can learn some more.

Let's give it a chance....... why not,.............we have no choice.

[kmdiaopm]

Good idea the signing of someone who knows the system. I have no problem with it as long as Spurrier does not yankitis with Ramsey. The young kid needs to take his knocks and work through them.

[TexSkin]

Like LuvSkins17 said..we have no choice on the matter now...I was extremely dissapointed that they never gave Banks a chance though. :(

[PennSkinsFan]

Yeah Looks liek the new plan is to have Ramsey, then Wuerfel/Johnson battle ffor two with the loser being number three and Hamdan to the practice squad. NOW, i am not sure i agree with this anymore. I woudl rather see a honest battle between Johnson and Wuerffel with the loser being released and Hamdan number three.

[Keino]

If he's signed for any other reason than to teach the systment then I hate the move. In other words, if the Ole Ball Coach plans on making Woeful the first Option in the event Ramsey gets hurt then, I am not feeling it at all.......

[AustinSkins]

Rob Johnson has apparently proven that he is a veteran QB that is incapable of changing his style and mechanics to suit Spurrier's system. That make him a candidate for a basement room in Spurrier's dog house.

IMO, with a greatly updated offensive line, Ramsey will thrive and Wuerffel will look extremely competent.

Give Johnson the bloody ax.

[LavarLeap2003]

yeah i have mixed reactions, dont konw, well just let it ride out and see what happens

[LavarLeap2003]

and i honestly think Rob Johnson sux.....i rather have had del home or anyone else. i would have loved chris chandler!!

[TexSkin]

Hell Griese would have been a good backup as well but then again he would have proven to be too much of a qb contraversy. kent Graham still play? Niel Odonell might have been a good choice as well.

[BackRow]

Wow!
We haven't played a game, and OBC is reverting back to his "yankaQB" game. Oh, well, samosamo.

[RODDY]

If this comes down to another sub par season of SS pulling and playing a different QB every few games I think Snyder has to consider a new coach. This is a bad move. At the very least it gives the impression that we have not moved past our QB problems of a year ago. All I can say is if they are not happy with Johnson, they should have scouted him better.

You know what they say about those who do not learn from the past, and the past tells us Wuerffel simply is not an NFL QB. Not to mention the guy is a fumble waiting to happen.

[SkinsKY]

I agree with PennSkins that Woeful and Johnson battle for number 2 with the loser getting cut. Woeful will be great for having another mind that knows the offense, but not for having an arm that knows a 40 yard pass.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i dont like the signing of johnson or wuerffel. i wish kent graham was still here. im just praying that ramsey doesnt get hurt......

[TexSkin]

Hell since we were into stealing Jets players this year ...why the hell did we not go for 5 and pluck Vinny away. He would have been an excellent backup. :D

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i hope this answers our question.....

Head Coach Steve Spurrier
"Q: By bringing Danny Wuerffel in, will you be at all tempted to replace Patrick Ramsey this season if things don't go the way you hope?
A: No, Patrick Ramsey is by far our best quarterback. I've said that many, many times. Danny [Wuerffel] gives us some insurance if something happens to Patrick, either he or Rob Johnson will go in the game and play well. It's strictly an insurance position. Patrick wasn't ready to play last year. I hope you all know that. I think Patrick will tell you that. But I think after a year and learning everything, he really impresses all of us out here in practice. We don't have any problems. It's something you guys might want to create. But there's no problem on our team about who the quarterback is."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/2003/trainingcamp/quotes4.htm

[SkinsKY]

Good quote LadyNRed. Spurrier learned some hard lessons and he is not dumb enough to repeat the ones that are easily avoidable. The Fun N Gun, much like Rome, was not built in a day. He had some lessons to learn before it took off.

[AGibbsGirl]

Hubbo (A Bills fan) doesn't like Johnson, I think both men are where they should be, fighting for the backup position, neither are starters anymore in my opinion.

Like I said in the other post, SS said that Wuerffel comes on board knowing he is the # 2/3 man.

I like DW because he knows SS and the system.
We'll see

[LostinNH]

Worse move of the offseason. No matter what Spurrier says he will always be tempted to put his boy in. There's not a qb in the league that Woeful is better than IMO.

[bfauble83]

I think its a good idea, we need a good punter, and since there isnt' really anyone available SS decided to sign Wuerffel to come out on 4th down and lob his patented pass/punt down the field...seriously I actually wanted to keep Wuerffel on the team anyway...he just better NEVER get within 20 feet of the field!

[rskinsfan10]

I honestly don't know what to think of this.

[HollywoodKolt]

I like this move. In my opinion Danny is the Anti-Ryan Leaf. Danny's got all the brains all the intelligence but he isn't so hot on the physical tools list. Danny knows this offense and he's a great guy. He's not here to compete with Ramsey. I think he's here to compete with Rob Johnson. I think that while neither one ofthem is a fabulous player. Danny has the ability to play within himself. Rob Johnson rarely makes the amazing plays that his physical tools should allow him to. Johnson never amounted to much in Buffalo and was god awful in Tampa last year even though he was predicted to win the starting job by multiple football publications (ESPN, SI) A perfect example of how Danny can play is are his two best games last year Against St. Louishe made the plays that got them first downs including a 26 yard scramble on I believe 3rd down in a Redskins win. The next week against dallas Danny threw 3 TD's you might say yeah but he also threw three picks. Well the third was an awful bobble by Kenny Watson with Danny throwing out of his own endzone. The other two basicly showcased his lack of armstrength. The first on a deep throw to Gardener. So while he's no allstar he can make plays and he shouldn't be seeing the field all that much as Ramsey has a revamped O-line to work behind. Here's to hoping that we only see danny in mop up time.

[Spearfeather]

Overall, I think this is a good move by the Skins. Without Weurffel in the picture, if Ramsey goes down then we go to Rob Johnson right, and what if Johnson starts taking his usual sacks. Then, you want to go to Gibran Hamden? Weurffel at the very least has a lot of experience with the Offense, granted, he is limited with his arm. I would rather see Weurffel as Ramseys backup than Hamden or Johnson.