Andre Carter en route to Washington to sign a deal

[Santheb]

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9300482

The Redskins are at it again, and this makes the second defensive signing. Defensive end/outside linebacker Andre Carter is schedule to fly to Washington and sign his brand new six-year, approximately $30 million contract.

[danny's stogie]

...and I can finally get some work done here at the office. This was what I was waiting for.

[smoot]

i gotta hand to danny for his ability to manipulate the cap

[CNYSkinFan]

OMG!!!! so if this is true here are the starters:

Wynn, Griffen, Salvea, Daniels on the line

Washington, Marshall, Carter as the LB

Rogers, Springs, Taylor, Archueletta as the Dbs


That has got to make the rest of the league sick as hell.

[DoGood]

Hooray!! The other signings are great but this is the one I have been secretly hoping for. This really fills a need. I don't know what to do with myself. This is better than ANY Christmas.

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

we've covered almost every need thru free agency. I was hoping we would get Carter. Now all we need is a reliable kicker.

[Sean Taylor is God]

are all these contacts exactly the same. 6 yrs $30 million. It's the TWILIGHT ZONE

[Fathead]

Oh my. The season starts sunday, right?

[S.Taylor36]

Please be true

[CNYSkinFan]

are all these contacts exactly the same. 6 yrs $30 million. It's the TWILIGHT ZONE
best way to build a true team, pay them all the same!!!

[chrisbcbu]

Holy Crap!! this is what i wanted!!

[DoGood]

we've covered almost every need thru free agency. I was hoping we would get Carter. Now all we need is a reliable kicker.

Don't forget at least one DB and O-Line depth. Some of that can be filled through the draft. We should keep all of our remaining draft picks.

[Chief Seeway]

Multi-tasking at it's best.

Press conference----interview---press conference----interview----launch Redskins One----press conference----request some gangster rap----interview----sign another free agent away from Chicago

When will it end?

[EHoffman]

I just threw up.

[Fathead]

are all these contacts exactly the same. 6 yrs $30 million. It's the TWILIGHT ZONE


Makes you think ol Danny boy found a loophole in the CBA that says 6 yr 30 mil contracts do not count against the cap or something.

[lakeskin]

I will cry now. akh should take credit for this signing.

[S.Taylor36]

Multi-tasking at it's best.

Press conference----interview---press conference----interview----launch Redskins One----press conference----request some gangster rap----interview----sign another free agent away from Chicago

When will it end?

LOL!!!!!! That still has be laughing.

[Fathead]

Don't forget at least one DB and O-Line depth. Some of that can be filled through the draft. We should keep all of our remaining draft picks.


And gain at least one from Ramsey.

[Santheb]

Oh man, could you imagine Carter and John Abraham on the same line? oh wow..

[Biggie]

Washington, Marshall, Carter as the LB

No! He's playing DE.

[DoGood]

This guy is really going to put GW's defense over the top IMO. He should generate some good pressure plus he's flexible enough to get into a 3 point stance for a few downs.

[FanFromArizona]

OMG!!!! so if this is true here are the starters:

Wynn, Griffen, Salvea, Daniels on the line

Washington, Marshall, Carter as the LB

Rogers, Springs, Taylor, Archueletta as the Dbs


That has got to make the rest of the league sick as hell.

What position is Carter projected to play? LB or DE? I thought DE.
I could also see GW wreaking havoc by setting Carter up on the line and dropping him back in coverage....

[akhhorus]

I just threw up.

Why? You're the agent of John Abraham?

[DoGood]

I will cry now. akh should take credit for this signing.

Don't forget the Wizards' domination of Detroit.:)

[chrisbcbu]

That link doesnt pull up that quote! Where did you get it from?

[akhhorus]

I will cry now. akh should take credit for this signing.

Who do you think talked Gibbs into it?

[The Skinsinator]

Multi-tasking at it's best.

Press conference----interview---press conference----interview----launch Redskins One----press conference----request some gangster rap----interview----sign another free agent away from Chicago

When will it end?LMAO. I guess the nfl should take note when Gibbs says we are going to be aggressive in free agency. These last 3 days have been unreal.

[MWballer]

If this is true thats gr8 Blache will be happy. I knew Gibbs wouldn't get new toys without bringing Williams any new toys.

[Biggie]

Why? You're the agent of John Abraham?

If so, he just got fired.

I'm not sure which recent offseason has been better: This or 2004.

[DoGood]

Why? You're the agent of John Abraham?

Don't worry. He doesn't have anything positive to say about anything.

[CNYSkinFan]

No! He's playing DE.
Are you sure. He played LB last year. Who do we sit Daniels or Wynn? Do we cut one? there is still a big whole at Will. Put Carter there.

[Fathead]

That link doesnt pull up that quote! Where did you get it from?


It's the first line after the bold print.

[Chief Seeway]

I just threw up.

:lol1:

[CNYSkinFan]

Who do you think talked Gibbs into it?
GW :-)

[dj_stouty]

WHAT POSITION? DE or WLB?

[FanFromArizona]

I just threw up.

Is the flu going around there too? :)

[dallasadmin]

I have to admit, I'm not familiar with this guy. Where would this rank on a 1 - 10 scale?

[DoGood]

Vinny told Larry that we should expect ONE more UFA signing. I guess this was it.

[Biggie]

Don't forget the Wizards' domination of Detroit.:)

Oh yeah! I bet the Wizards has something to do with at least one of these signings. Domination like that has to rub off.

[EHoffman]

Why? You're the agent of John Abraham?
No, I'm happy.

[akhhorus]

That link doesnt pull up that quote! Where did you get it from?

Its there, I just saw it.

I think Carter will split time between OLB and DE just to keep him on the field. We'll see.

Next on my wish list:

Jeff Mitchell
Vintieri.

[joethefan]

how happy I am...WOW!!!! now lets get out there and makes some things happen on that field.....now we can draft for depth....

[CNYSkinFan]

WHAT POSITION? DE or WLB?
I gotta think Will, and spelling Daniels or Wynn on passing downs.

[Santheb]

You know what would be awesome? If it was a sign and trade type of deal, sign Carter, trade him and Ramsey to the Jets for Abraham :P

But I'll be happy with ANY good pass rusher.

[AliBabba]

If so, he just got fired.

I'm not sure which recent offseason has been better: This or 2004.


Correct me if I'm wrong. We didn't win any playoff games in 2003 did we?

This is awesome!!!!!

[Fathead]

Go sign Vinatieri please, and we will be incredible.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Multi-tasking at it's best.

Press conference----interview---press conference----interview----launch Redskins One----press conference----request some gangster rap----interview----sign another free agent away from Chicago

When will it end?Killin me seeway. LOL I can see that is gonna stick for a long time.

[CNYSkinFan]

Its there, I just saw it.

I think Carter will split time between OLB and DE just to keep him on the field. We'll see.

Next on my wish list:

Jeff Mitchell
Vintieri.
I would like a corner...Will Allen or Jamar Fletcher.

[akhhorus]

I have to admit, I'm not familiar with this guy. Where would this rank on a 1 - 10 scale?

6-7. He's a solid player, but nothing special. He's a good pass rusher, but has some trouble with run stopping. I have him graded as a B/B- level player.

[dj_stouty]

I gotta think Will, and spelling Daniels or Wynn on passing downs.

Really? I was thinking he would replace Wynn for some reason...

We still don't have a franchise pass rushing DE...

[CNYSkinFan]

You know what would be awesome? If it was a sign and trade type of deal, sign Carter, trade him and Ramsey to the Jets for Abraham :P

But I'll be happy with ANY good pass rusher.
sign and trades don't work in the Nfl because of the signing bonus hit. I rather have aguy that can play standing up as well as in a 3 point stance then a mal content who sat out a playoff game for fear of injury.

[whitskins]

Awesome!!! The rest of the league is now about to dig into a big plate of OWNED!!!!!

[akhhorus]

You know what would be awesome? If it was a sign and trade type of deal, sign Carter, trade him and Ramsey to the Jets for Abraham :P

But I'll be happy with ANY good pass rusher.

You can't do sign and trades in the nfl, you would be on the hook for the whole signing bonus immediately. And why wouldn't the team who would trade for him, just sign him.

[AliBabba]

I would like a corner...Will Allen or Jamar Fletcher.


Please ... no Will Allen

[PyroGenic]

Are you sure. He played LB last year. Who do we sit Daniels or Wynn? Do we cut one? there is still a big whole at Will. Put Carter there.

i remember people saying that he was going to be a situational pass rusher since he wasnt and every down lineman since hes smallish. But with a contract like that you know he's not going to be a situational kind of guy so who knows.

[Santheb]

You can't do sign and trades in the nfl, you would be on the hook for the whole signing bonus immediately. And why wouldn't the team who would trade for him, just sign him.

If there was no bonus then there wouldn't be a cap hit. I'm sure the Danny could make it work.

I dunno why but it'd just be awesome to get Abe :/

[Chief Seeway]

I hope this is true, strange that the report is not on the link any more.

[DoGood]

I wonder why Vinny said that we should only expect one more UFA signing when we obviously have holes that probably shouldn't be filled via the draft like kicker/punter.

[FanFromArizona]

Go sign Vinatieri please, and we will be incredible.

And then to finish off special teams go get a punter.

My boy Tom Rouen has not been called by ANYONE and would love someone to reach out and call.

[bgforever]

Hooray!! The other signings are great but this is the one I have been secretly hoping for. This really fills a need. I don't know what to do with myself. This is better than ANY Christmas.

If you think this didnt' prompt K. Campbell to re-sign, think again. LB's know Lb's and Carter is capable of being a great "hybrid" LB/DE for us. Campbell wants back in on what he knows will be a very good team. True I may not know what Campbell's chances were out there, but I do know what a defense like this will be.

[smoak]

Is Carter an every down DE? How was he used early in his career when he got double digit sacks? I like the deal, but I wonder how we'll use him.

[stonebraker]

Huzzah!

deliciousness... chris clemons and andre carter are delicious

[CNYSkinFan]

Really? I was thinking he would replace Wynn for some reason...

We still don't have a franchise pass rushing DE...
That bothers me but we still ahve our 2nd round draft pick to get a very good DE we can workin on a rotation on the cheap.

I think back to after the Dallas game and Daniels got 4 sacks. he said something along the lines that they changed the scheme recently and that is why he was getting more sacks and the coaches knew why there was lack in production early on. Daniels was very productive the last few games and Wynn just restructured so I doubt they cut him or bench him.

[danny's stogie]

Are you sure. He played LB last year. Who do we sit Daniels or Wynn? Do we cut one? there is still a big whole at Will. Put Carter there.

The Niners switched to a 3-4 last year so Carter played linebacker. He didn't transition well because Nolan is clueless on how to use him. He had his better seasons when he was playing RDE in a 4-3 and he's more natural in that role. The Skins will probably mix up where they use him because of the ridiculous amount of crazy formations that GW comes up with.

[dj_stouty]

This guy had 12.5 sacks with his hand in the dirt one season. Why not put him on LDE and finally get a true pass rush going?

[CNYSkinFan]

Please ... no Will Allen
as a nickle he would be great....seriously. he had no help in NY last year and was left on an island against #1 Wrers. He could be a very good nickle.

[akhhorus]

I hope this is true, strange that the report is not on the link any more.

Its still there:
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9300482

[danny's stogie]

Really? I was thinking he would replace Wynn for some reason...

We still don't have a franchise pass rushing DE...

He'll more than likely replace Daniels at RDE with Wynn starting at LDE.

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

i'm havin a ball talkin trash to fans of other NFC East teams on this music forum, they're heated over the fact their owners are standing pat while Dan "The Godfather" Snyder continues to make moves. Its a beautiful thing people.

[CNYSkinFan]

as a nickle he would be great....seriously. he had no help in NY last year and was left on an island against #1 Wrers. He could be a very good nickle.
I am still worried about Lavar's absence and I would hate to have a whole not plugged. But who knows waht GW has in store, hell they may line him up at safety and taylor at end in some packages LOL

[DoGood]

You think people are excited about this move with 90 people viewing this thread?

[Biggie]

as a nickle he would be great....seriously. he had no help in NY last year and was left on an island against #1 Wrers. He could be a very good nickle.

Considering Shawn's injury history, our nickel corner will start at least 2-3 games. I do not want Will Allen anywhere close to Ashburn unless he comes here for dirt-cheap.

[lakeskin]

He's an elephant. Didnt the old 49ers have a position called the elephant that was manned by the best tweener ever, Charles Haley?

[CNYSkinFan]

He'll more than likely replace Daniels at RDE with Wynn starting at LDE.
Cutting Daniels saves us only .8 mill. Wonder if we do it and try and get an OLB still.

[akhhorus]

I just hope COUNCILMAN stays away even though we finally got a real pass rushing DE.

[DoGood]

I think this signing might put the John Abraham business to rest. We are filling needs wisely and there really is not much room for Abraham. We will be fine without his services.

[chrisbcbu]

Its there, I just saw it.

I think Carter will split time between OLB and DE just to keep him on the field. We'll see.

Next on my wish list:

Jeff Mitchell
Vintieri.

I had to refresh my page, for some reason it wasnt on there when i clicked the link. I had to refresh.

[skinsorbust]

im from the san francisco area and ive seen this guy play alot and he is much better at def end than at will backer.he is a true edge rusher when he is at def end.when playing at backer hes a little small and sometimes gets overtaken buy off linemen.he's an awesome pickup for us and now finally after quite some time we can finally say we have a down lineman who is a true edge rusher.

[AliBabba]

Considering Shawn's injury history, our nickel corner will start at least 2-3 games. I do not want Will Allen anywhere close to Ashburn unless he comes here for dirt-cheap.

Agreed ... that guy just doesn't sit well with me. He's in a downward spiral the last few years. I don't want to pay alot for a nickel CB, but I don't want Will Allen either.

While we are looting the ex-49er bin ... Ahmed Plummer, eh?

[Chief Seeway]

Its still there:
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9300482

Yea, I got it now. Had to clear out the ol' cache.

[Fathead]

I just hope COUNCILMAN stays away even though we finally got a real pass rushing DE.


Why did you say that name?!?!?!?!?!?!

[MWballer]

Our 2nd round pick will now officially be either a CB or a O linemen.

[danny's stogie]

Cutting Daniels saves us only .8 mill. Wonder if we do it and try and get an OLB still.

Cutting Daniels creates a hole in DE depth. Why cut him when it would be nearly impossible to sign a better player for .8 M or less?

[DoGood]

im from the san francisco area and ive seen this guy play alot and he is much better at def end than at will backer.he is a true edge rusher when he is at def end.when playing at backer hes a little small and sometimes gets overtaken buy off linemen.he's an awesome pickup for us and now finally after quite some time we can finally say we have a down lineman who is a true edge rusher.

I'm beginning to feel very comfortable with our OLB options even if Carter plays primarily on the line. We have young guys but they still have managed to get some playing time in the last year or two. Clemons looks talented and I've always like Khary Campbell. McCune is very intriguing but the most inexperienced of them all. I say we stand pat.

[DoGood]

Our 2nd round pick will now officially be either a CB or a O linemen.

Agreed. I would like to see a CB as there is a fairly nice class to draft from.

[RedskinsATW!]

This just in from Peter King:

"Andre Carter's Wonderlic Score was only a 24 which is the same as his mothers age at the time he was born. He was also voted by the SF Chronicle the "Worst Dressed Man on the 49ers." I mean, couldn't they get a guy who could play defense AND dress well? He's also a Capricorn and the Redskins already have a Capricorn at LB. What were the Redskins thinking?"

Just kidding but I couldn't resist.

[bantu]

I am still worried about Lavar's absence and I would hate to have a whole not plugged. But who knows waht GW has in store, hell they may line him up at safety and taylor at end in some packages LOL

You're worried about LaVar's absence?? Were you worried last year when he wasn't playing??

Carter will resume his natural role as a DE as he did before Mike Nolan tried to change him. Carter had trouble adjusting to LB, so I suspect this guy is our main pass rusher. RDE is my best guess.

And, yes, this is a coup....trust me. One of those M. Washington-type pickups. If Carter's health stays tip-top, we are gonna be a such a wrecking ball of a team.

[akhhorus]

Why did you say that name?!?!?!?!?!?!

He's not like Candyman. He doesn't appear behind you if you say his name 5 times.

[DoGood]

This just in from Peter King:

"Andre Carter's Wonderlic Score was only a 24 which is the same as his mothers age at the time he was born. He was also voted by the SF Chronicle the "Worst Dressed Man on the 49ers." I mean, couldn't they get a guy who could play defense AND dress well? He's also a Capricorn and the Redskins already have a Capricorn at LB. What were the Redskins thinking?"

Just kidding but I couldn't resist.

:lol1: I so thought that was his actual writing. Sounds like something that jerk would say just to stick it to the Skins.

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

i don't know how i'm goin to be able to wait until next season to start. I'ma have to play madden everyday w/ our new lineup just to make the time go by.

[Slobberknocker]

OMG!!!! so if this is true here are the starters:

Wynn, Griffen, Salvea, Daniels on the line

Washington, Marshall, Carter as the LB

Rogers, Springs, Taylor, Archueletta as the Dbs


That has got to make the rest of the league sick as hell.

Yeah, and that's just the defense. Then they have the Greatest Show on Natural Turf to deal with when they lose the ball.

[Fathead]

He's not like Candyman. He doesn't appear behind you if you say his name 5 times.


Sure he won't. But I keep looking behind me as I type this.

[AliBabba]

I'ma have to play madden everyday w/ our new lineup just to make the time go by.

You will probably spend most of your time in Roster Management then.

[FanFromArizona]

Our 2nd round pick will now officially be either a CB or a O linemen.

Don't be surprised to see them get the best player left at either Tight End or even Defensive End. Our draft policy is based on value and not need, if there is a good player that fits the mold I could see us still trying to get a TE or Defensive End,

I don't think it's a guarantee that we get a CB or Olineman, but I would not be opposed to the selection. IMO, it's still a tossup with TE/DE added to the realm of possibilities.

[danny's stogie]

Sure he won't. But I keep looking behind me as I type this.

Don't look now, but I hear creapy music. I sense one of those "I told you so" threads coming on at any minute. Jennifer Love, no, don't do it, don't go upstairs!!!

[DoGood]

Does anyone else feel like the Redskins are getting some kind of vindication to the rest of the league by signing all of these players because of our lack of respect? I know that our goal is to improve as a team but it sure feels good to stick it to everyone else when people did nothing but criticize our team.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS

[PA Skins Girl]

This just in from Peter King:

"Andre Carter's Wonderlic Score was only a 24 which is the same as his mothers age at the time he was born. He was also voted by the SF Chronicle the "Worst Dressed Man on the 49ers." I mean, couldn't they get a guy who could play defense AND dress well? He's also a Capricorn and the Redskins already have a Capricorn at LB. What were the Redskins thinking?"

Just kidding but I couldn't resist.
Hahahah!!! Very clever!

[Slobberknocker]

Agreed. I would like to see a CB as there is a fairly nice class to draft from.

If we draft Cromartie from FSU the league had better be warming up their official "We apologize, Joe" apology speech.

[danny's stogie]

Does anyone else feel like the Redskins are getting some kind of vindication to the rest of the league by signing all of these players because of our lack of respect? I know that our goal is to improve as a team but it sure feels good to stick it to everyone else when people did nothing but criticize our team.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS

No, but I do think that Dan Snyder is trying to stick it to Nolan by signing his former players and forcing him watch them flourish in DC.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Don't look now, but I hear creapy music. I sense one of those "I told you so" threads coming on at any minute. Jennifer Love, no, don't do it, don't go upstairs!!!It will be like a Friday the 13th movie where the third time you refresh the thread he will be standing right there in front of you. BOO!!

[danny's stogie]

It will be like a Friday the 13th movie where the third time you refresh the thread he will be standing right there in front of you. BOO!!

LMAO!

[skinsorbust]

You're worried about LaVar's absence?? Were you worried last year when he wasn't playing??

Carter will resume his natural role as a DE as he did before Mike Nolan tried to change him. Carter had trouble adjusting to LB, so I suspect this guy is our main pass rusher. RDE is my best guess.

And, yes, this is a coup....trust me. One of those M. Washington-type pickups. If Carter's health stays tip-top, we are gonna be a such a wrecking ball of a team.

absolutely,his best fit is at def.end.but man in williams zone blitz packages this guy gives it alot more versitility.and now gregg williams can disguise alot more.not including archuleta to the scene.our def is going to be freakin scary.

[FanFromArizona]

You're worried about LaVar's absence?? Were you worried last year when he wasn't playing??

Carter will resume his natural role as a DE as he did before Mike Nolan tried to change him. Carter had trouble adjusting to LB, so I suspect this guy is our main pass rusher. RDE is my best guess.

And, yes, this is a coup....trust me. One of those M. Washington-type pickups. If Carter's health stays tip-top, we are gonna be a such a wrecking ball of a team.

I can see Clemons[LDE] and Carter[RDE] being our pass-rushers, spelling Wynn and Daniels on 3rd downs and Daniels to spell either one on some obvious pass downs.

Carter is going to be playing Defensive End, we don't need help at WLB and it is NOT Carter's strength.

[Fathead]

It will be like a Friday the 13th movie where the third time you refresh the thread he will be standing right there in front of you. BOO!!


Don't say that. Wait, someone just knocked at the door. Hey wait noooaijfd;lsadjfijfasdflkafdsakl;j








Our D is going to be scary as anything.

[ItchySkin]

Great sign...i dont know much about him (i must admit) but my cousin who's ironically a giants fan thinks this will greatly improve our D.

Um...so who next? Abraham? ...Im getting spoiled here:flower1:

[danny's stogie]

Don't say that. Wait, someone just knocked at the door. Hey wait noooaijfd;lsadjfijfasdflkafdsakl;j








Our D is going to be scary as anything.

LOL. It's like COUNCILMAN's alter-ego on the offensive side of the ball.

[lakeskin]

If we draft Cromartie from FSU the league had better be warming up their official "We apologize, Joe" apology speech.

If we get Cromartie I will cry cry again. We are gonna be sick next year.

[Biggie]

Something tells me this is Daniel's last year in the league, so the Carter signing is a good one. I still think we need a solid back-up at defensive tackle just in case anything ever happens to Joe or Griff.

[skinsorbust]

Something tells me this is Daniel's last year in the league, so the Carter signing is a good one. I still think we need a solid back-up at defensive tackle just in case anything ever happens to Joe or Griff.
dont we still have cedric killings?he played pretty good for us.

[Slobberknocker]

I think this signing might put the John Abraham business to rest. We are filling needs wisely and there really is not much room for Abraham. We will be fine without his services.

I was regretting having nothing to do on draft day, but after landing Lloyd, El, Archuletta, and now Carter I really don't care what goes down in April. This is our draft. We can be boring as hell with our 5-7 and take O-line depth and I'll still dance down the halls.

Maybe we draft a punter though. Just a thought. It's lovely when your thoughts boil down to punter and O-line depth, huh? (I'm assuming we pick up a DB at some point, you know).

[Redskin4Life]

Don't look now, but I hear creapy music. I sense one of those "I told you so" threads coming on at any minute. Jennifer Love, no, don't do it, don't go upstairs!!!
A little Can't Hardly Wait for you DS:

Hi, umm... Do you happen to know who COUNCILMAN is?
Du'uh. He only sat like, right next to you in freshman english. But I guess you wouldn't remember that. I mean, why would Amanda Beckett pay any attention to a unique spirit like COUNCILMAN, or even a unique spirit like me? Maybe it's because she's a little busy ordering around her little conformist flock of sheep. SHEEP! You are all sheep. Baah!

[bgforever]

Something tells me this is Daniel's last year in the league, so the Carter signing is a good one. I still think we need a solid back-up at defensive tackle just in case anything ever happens to Joe or Griff.

Actually its Wynn and Dainiels last year, most likely. The DT's available will keep Wynn from converting and yes younger legs from the DE position.

[danny's stogie]

A little Can't Hardly Wait for you DS:

LOL...I'm going to have to rent that movie...it's been so long since I've seen it...

[Redskin4Life]

LOL...I'm going to have to rent that movie...it's been so long since I've seen it...
Love that movie... and it's crazy how many young actors/actresses got big after this movie.

[HAWGZHEAD]

A little Can't Hardly Wait for you DS::lol1:

[MONK_in_HOF]

Man you guys are fast. 8 pages in an hour.

As for the Carter signing. :Pickle: I have no idea how these finances are playing out, as it seems everyone is getting huge contracts. But I don't care b/c we are going to be a much more talented team entering next season. Excitement is starting to boil over. Now we wait 5 months.

[Biggie]

LOL...I'm going to have to rent that movie...it's been so long since I've seen it...

Don't. They show it on USA at least once a month.

[Redskin4Life]

No word on KFFL??? Interesting...

[BraveSkin76]

Something tells me this is Daniel's last year in the league, so the Carter signing is a good one. I still think we need a solid back-up at defensive tackle just in case anything ever happens to Joe or Griff.


Yea, I would be quite disappointed if we didn't address the DT quality/depth question this off-season with at least a mid-level FA signing or 3rd round draft pick. I love the heart and will of Salave'a but contrary to most HailRedskins.com members, we could still do better at that position. I was hoping there would be a play at Maake Kemeontau before the Panthers signed him. Maybe after the June 1st cuts we could pick up a player or two. I believe Demetric Evans played some DT this year as well.

Also, any definite responses to where Andre Carter will play on the defense? He's a natural pass-rusher at the DE spot but some here think he's being brought in to compete at the WLB spot?

[Smurf85]

Oh my. The season starts sunday, right?

:lol1: I was thinking the same thing.

[AliBabba]

No word on KFFL??? Interesting...

refresh your browser

[bantu]

Love that movie... and it's crazy how many young actors/actresses got big after this movie.

I always watch it when its on. I know all the classic lines from that one.

"Bullcorn!" :lol1:

[whistleandthumb]

The final puzzle pieces for the 4th Lombardi trophy are being put in place. This has been THE most unbelievable offseason EVER!!!

[Slobberknocker]

No, but I do think that Dan Snyder is trying to stick it to Nolan by signing his former players and forcing him watch them flourish in DC.

Nolan deserves it for not knowing what he had (check my sig). Brandon Lloyd is a marvelous kid. To not let him be himself in the locker room is a crime. If you don't treat your playmakers with respect you ought to lose them.

Denver didn't value Clinton -- we do. It will be the same with Lloyd, Carter. If the Raiders take the wild ones, send us your All-Pro callibre players who don't fit in under brainless coaching staffs.

Yeah, let us be known as the team that assembles the cream talent under a Hall of Fame coach and brings them the Super Bowl their talent level suggests.

We're not some team throwing money around anymore. We're a team guided by a genius with an owner who closes deals.

[Redskin4Life]

True, but a funny movie nonetheless.... I'm so numb from all of these signings that I feel as dumb as Mike Dexter right now?!?!?

Mike Dexter: Who's gonna want you now?
Amanda Becket: [Looking at her letter] Somebody.
Mike Dexter: Somebody? More like... nobody!
Amanda Becket: Gosh, Mike. You really got me.

[danny's stogie]

Don't. They show it on USA at least once a month.

Probably, I know that whenever JLH is on the screen I stop and watch!


Love that movie... and it's crazy how many young actors/actresses got big after this movie.

Just checked imdb and half the cast of Six Feet Under.

[MONK_in_HOF]

Our 2nd round pick will now officially be either a CB or a O linemen.
I think our 2nd pick will be CB. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a LB or lineman depending on what is there.

[akhhorus]

No word on KFFL??? Interesting...

Its up now:

Redskins | Team to sign A. Carter
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:05:39 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Washington Redskins are in the process of signing free agent DE/LB Andre Carter (49ers) to a six-year, approximately $30 million contract.

[chrisbcbu]

No word on KFFL??? Interesting...

They just updated it.

Redskins | Team to sign A. Carter
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:05:39 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Washington Redskins are in the process of signing free agent DE/LB Andre Carter (49ers) to a six-year, approximately $30 million contract.

[Redskin4Life]

They just updated it.

Redskins | Team to sign A. Carter
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:05:39 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Washington Redskins are in the process of signing free agent DE/LB Andre Carter (49ers) to a six-year, approximately $30 million contract.
Crazy fast.... thanks guys.

[lavarsamonster]

now what position in carter going to play for us, he is your stereotypical tweener 6'4" 265??

[Redskin4Life]

So who's left on the wish list????

Jeff Mitchell (backup OC/OG)
Vinateri (K)
Draft a DE (best available in 2nd), blocking TE (Klopfenstein), CB (Cromartie if available or a couple on the second day)

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

im pretty sure he plays DE with Clemons and Cambell spliting time at LB unless one of them really distinquishs themselves. Wynn will probably move into a rotational spot spelling both the Ends and D-tackles for a breather.

[BigCountry]

Better be defensive end

[akhhorus]

So who's left on the wish list????

Jeff Mitchell (backup OC/OG)
Vinateri (K)

Hey, don't steal my wishlist!! (takes the list away from R4L)

Draft a DE (best available in 2nd), blocking TE (Klopfenstein), CB (Cromartie if available or a couple on the second day)

OLB is where I'm thinking for the 2nd round pick now.

[bgforever]

So who's left on the wish list????

Jeff Mitchell (backup OC/OG)
Vinateri (K)
Draft a DE (best available in 2nd), blocking TE (Klopfenstein), CB (Cromartie if available or a couple on the second day)


CB with 2nd.

6th OG, FA OG/C

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

Hey, don't steal my wishlist!! (takes the list away from R4L)



OLB is where I'm thinking for the 2nd round pick now.
Im still thinking DE. We have a young stable of LBs im thinking we are older and weaker at DLine Still.

[lavarsamonster]

OLB is where I'm thinking for the 2nd round pick now.


ive been saying this for the past 2 weeks, we need to look at fast playmakers that can make tackles on the edges, since we have solidified our other areas of need on defense (that i assumed we would) theres no reason not to take advantage of a 2nd round pick and fill in our final voids on defense either an OLB or CB

[RedskinsATW!]

I know what you mean. Everytime JLH is on screen I stop to watch them... uh, I mean "her."

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

Im getting a serious feeling this may be the year we win the offseason and the in season.

[Slobberknocker]

I'm sure this was posted somewhere, but it has renewed relevance with the signing of Carter (PFT, BTW):

As the Washington Redskins continue to amass new players days after they supposedly were teetering at the edge of cap hell, plenty of folks around the league are scratching their heads.

Snyder isn't breaking any rules, so the rest of the league must not know them. I think it all has to do with length of contract (combined with restructures, etc.). By signing guys to 6-7 year deals with boni, we prorate the deals over a long period and minimize the cap hit now.

People hear these blockbuster deals and freak out, not realizing the majority of the hit comes later. By that time the cap expands and you rework/release players and go to work again.

You have to hand it to our FO. They took crap from us before, but now they look like the envy of the league. All they needed was a Hall of Fame Coach to pick out the players... :)

[lavarsamonster]

everyone was worrying for nothing, there is a reason these guys have the job of managing the salary cap and we have witnessed why

[BraveSkin76]

I know what you mean. Everytime JLH is on screen I stop to watch them... uh, I mean "her."

Yea, really...

...I don't know what it is exactly about her but everytime I see her on the tube or just channel-surfing I stop, stare and watch. Can't Hardly Wait was just on yesterday on one of the few HBO channels I now get thanks to Digital cable. Here's a movie of her you gotta see: Heartbreakers. But I digress...

[Redskin4Life]

Hey, don't steal my wishlist!! (takes the list away from R4L).

LMAO!!!

OLB is where I'm thinking for the 2nd round pick now.

Really?!?!? I was thinking that OLB will be filled by a rotation of Campbell, Clemons, McCune. We don't have a blocking TE in the mold of Fauria... and with his age and one to two year deal, I thought we would be getting a TE.

And we have a glaring hole at nickle... get another starter for the future and have him play nickle, help spell Springs/Rogers, give him a start when Springs is hurt/bruised up/playing NO, HOU, TEN.

As DE heavy as this draft is, I would love to grab a STUD DE in the first day that would have been a hands down first rounder in any other draft year...

[IMALILTEAPOT]

wow, i just went on and found out we got arch and carter. this is crazy

[Biggie]

As DE heavy as this draft is, I would love to grab a STUD DE in the first day that would have been a hands down first rounder in any other draft year...

I think we have to get a DE in the draft. I mean, this is the year that they're all available, and we do have two rather old starters on the DL.

[hokieskin]

LMAO!!!
As DE heavy as this draft is, I would love to grab a STUD DE in the first day that would have been a hands down first rounder in any other draft year...

DAryl Tapp - A Williams kind of player - used to ride his bike to practice wearing ankle weights!!

[Redskin4Life]

I'm sure this was posted somewhere, but it has renewed relevance with the signing of Carter (PFT, BTW):

As the Washington Redskins continue to amass new players days after they supposedly were teetering at the edge of cap hell, plenty of folks around the league are scratching their heads.

Snyder isn't breaking any rules, so the rest of the league must not know them. I think it all has to do with length of contract (combined with restructures, etc.). By signing guys to 6-7 year deals with boni, we prorate the deals over a long period and minimize the cap hit now.

People hear these blockbuster deals and freak out, not realizing the majority of the hit comes later. By that time the cap expands and you rework/release players and go to work again.

You have to hand it to our FO. They took crap from us before, but now they look like the envy of the league. All the needed was a Hall of Fame Coach to pick out the players... :)
I was thinking about some of the "conversions" we did this offseason... I wonder if the "guaranteed" money includes the roster bonuses later in the contract that are meant to be "converted". Would explain how we can keep signing guys left and right and still be fiscally responsible (sort of like the TO deal: some money upfront, a roster bonus to be converted over the rest of the contract if the player pans out otherwise cut your losses)...

[Slobberknocker]

The Bear and 9er boards are going nuts:

can someone explain to me how they can actually afford all these players. I'm completely confused here, here's a team that was forced to almost cut 15 players without the new cba deal. The CBA added like another 7 million? and all of sudden the redskins can sign Fauria, Carter, Lloyd and Randel-El at the same time can someone please explain how the hell they can do this? WHiz little help here?

Guess "WHiz" is their Akh. I love you, Akh. You called the Carter signing first.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

In the "official player movement thread" it says we signed Andre Collins... :)

[HAWGZHEAD]

In the "official player movement thread" it says we signed Andre Collins... :)Saw that, is this official?

[skinfan08]

we've covered almost every need thru free agency. I was hoping we would get Carter. Now all we need is a reliable kicker.
True all we need now is a kicker so cut hall and sign Vinateri(but im willing to settle for vanderjagt)
And the dream team is complete

[danny's stogie]

LMAO!!!



Really?!?!? I was thinking that OLB will be filled by a rotation of Campbell, Clemons, McCune. We don't have a blocking TE in the mold of Fauria... and with his age and one to two year deal, I thought we would be getting a TE.

And we have a glaring hole at nickle... get another starter for the future and have him play nickle, help spell Springs/Rogers, give him a start when Springs is hurt/bruised up/playing NO, HOU, TEN.

As DE heavy as this draft is, I would love to grab a STUD DE in the first day that would have been a hands down first rounder in any other draft year...

The Skins can't go wrong drafting a TE, LB, or DE in the 2nd round. All three positions are very deep this year. I'm going to guess LB or the USC guard if he falls there.

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

NFC East fans are goin nuts wondering how we're payin for all these people. I'm on the verge of tears.lol

[NCskinsfanatic]

I think we'll go best available between MLB, CB and OLB with our 2nd. By acquiring a pick(4th or 5th) for Ramsey along with our 5th and 2 6ths and a 7th we should be able to address depth for the Oline, CB, TE, MLB and OLB.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Saw that, is this official?
Andre COLLINS, not Andre Carter... remember Andre Collins #55?

[LATrueRedskin]

The Bear and 9er boards are going nuts:

can someone explain to me how they can actually afford all these players. I'm completely confused here, here's a team that was forced to almost cut 15 players without the new cba deal. The CBA added like another 7 million? and all of sudden the redskins can sign Fauria, Carter, Lloyd and Randel-El at the same time can someone please explain how the hell they can do this? WHiz little help here?

Guess "WHiz" is their Akh. I love you, Akh. You called the Carter signing first.

They, and the rest of the league, buy into what the "analysts" say about the Skins. Pretty funny actually.

[MONK_in_HOF]

In the "official player movement thread" it says we signed Andre Collins... :)

Nice. I hope he can still play.

[Redskin4Life]

I think we have to get a DE in the draft. I mean, this is the year that they're all available, and we do have two rather old starters on the DL.

I'm with you on this one Wynn and Daniels are no spring chickens... or linemen. And the whole "Wynn can extend his career by moving to the middle" theory is something I'm not willing to bank on... get the stud DE now?!?!?

DAryl Tapp - A Williams kind of player - used to ride his bike to practice wearing ankle weights!!

Interesting but I heard Tapp won't be around for our pick... but then again if someone that was supposed to be there for us moves up, it means someone that WASN'T supposed to be ther for us moves DOWN... Manny Lawson, a Wolf in Skins' clothing.

[Slobberknocker]

My favorite, from the Bear board, is this gem:

hahahahah well there goes all of our targets except for a backup QB.

The 9er board thinks Nolan is a mastermind for pawning off Lloyd on us. I'd like to see if they still think that after Saunders runs amok.

[darkwing99]

No, Manny Lawson is a Williams kinda guy. How about them apples?............

[HAWGZHEAD]

Andre COLLINS, not Andre Carter... remember Andre Collins #55?Ohhhhhhh, DUH!! :doh: Too many Andre's in one thread.

[3644Skins]

John Clayton just reported on the Hot list that Carter is probably going to sign with the Skins. He also said it looks to be another 30 mill contract as well.

[danny's stogie]

My favorite, from the Bear board, is this gem:

hahahahah well there goes all of our targets except for a backup QB.

The 9er board thinks Nolan is a mastermind for pawning off Lloyd on us. I'd like to see if they still think that after Saunders runs amok.

You think that's bad, go check out the RanchReport. They have more posts about Carter than they do about signing Akin. You can literally lick the tears off the computer screen.

[Biggie]

John Clayton just reported on the Hot list that Carter is probably going to sign with the Skins. He also said it looks to be another 30 mill contract as well.

He's only an hour late.

[GolfFreak]

Holy cow -- how the heck are we doing this???

This is what I've been waiting for ... thank you!!!

[ConradCountry]

Carter will play DE, he is not a 4-3 LB he cannot cover.

[Biggie]

You think that's bad, go check out the RanchReport. They have more posts about Carter than they do about signing Akin. You can literally lick the tears off the computer screen.

A link, kind sir, a link!

Edit. I got it. Never mind (http://mb19.scout.com/bcowboyupdate).

[redskin_rich]

True all we need now is a kicker so cut hall and sign Vinateri(but im willing to settle for vanderjagt)
And the dream team is complete
I think Hall will be fine kicking extra points all season, though he may wear down with all the kickoffs. ;)

[danny's stogie]

A link, kind sir, a link!

Nope, it's not worth it. It's like Party of Five and JLH, err, crack, if you haven't seen her or used it before it's best to not get sucked in.

[Slobberknocker]

True all we need now is a kicker so cut hall and sign Vinateri(but im willing to settle for vanderjagt)
And the dream team is complete

Then you should be happy about this from PFT:

K Adam Vinatieri is reportedly bummed out by the five-year, $10 million contract signed by K Ryan Longwell in Minnesota.

Maybe we can make him happy??

[The Skinsinator]

I think Hall will be fine kicking extra points all season, though he may wear down with all the kickoffs. ;)Awesome post. Collectively, we all have plenty to discuss until the season begins. Anyone know how to go into hibernation for 4 months?

[whistleandthumb]

Then you should be happy about this from PFT:

K Adam Vinatieri is reportedly bummed out by the five-year, $10 million contract signed by K Ryan Longwell in Minnesota.

Maybe we can make him happy??
Why would we cut Hall, only to turn around and pay as much (or more) for someone else?

[3644Skins]

I think Hall will be fine kicking extra points all season, though he may wear down with all the kickoffs. ;)


Bring Nick Novak back!!! He can get the job done

[Slobberknocker]

I especially enjoyed this from The Ranch:

i don't care how much it will cost. we need to hire away their cap guy. this dude is unreal.

I didn't know the Girls hate us so much they have a whole permanent thread to "bash the skins". We hate them back, but it's not like we lose sleep creating a whole perpetual posting place. Sheesh.

Signing all your free agency needs? Fantastic
Driving the Cowboys crazy in the process: Priceless

[Redskin4Life]

No, Manny Lawson is a Williams kinda guy. How about them apples?............
Another off your wish list, darkwing99... Andre Carter, check.

[LATrueRedskin]

It's great to see a solid defensive player signed by Coach. Carter should flourish in this system.

[HAWGZHEAD]

I especially enjoyed this from The Ranch:

i don't care how much it will cost. we need to hire away their cap guy. this dude is unreal.

I didn't know the Girls hate us so much they have a whole permanent thread to "bash the skins". We hate them back, but it's not like we lose sleep creating a whole perpetual posting place. Sheesh.

Signing all your free agency needs? Fantastic
Driving the Cowboys crazy in the process: PricelessCowboys threads may start out talking about one thing but always end up talking about the Skins. I love it.

[Slobberknocker]

Why would we cut Hall, only to turn around and pay as much (or more) for someone else?

Um, because he's Adam "clutch" Vinitieri??? He's like Bettis scoring touchdowns. Besides, we'll need his production in the Super Bowls. :rolleyes:

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

so if we don't land Vinateri or Vanderchoke, who do we go after???

[The Skinsinator]

Just talked to a serious Niner fan here at work. He said Carter is very good at getting to the qb in one on ones. He was double teamed most of the season though causing a lack of production. Sounds like the same problem with Lloyd. No more double teams boys. You have a real football team with a Super Bowl champion coach. Glad to have you on board.

[Slobberknocker]

It's great to see a solid defensive player signed by Coach. Carter should flourish in this system.

You mean another solid defensive player. Archuletta will flourish too. Taylor solves his off-the-field issue and any receiver facing us will need to take out a policy with Lloyd's of London before they play us.

I will personally congratulate Brandon Lloyd if that happens, too. Blame a guy for not laying out for Nolan's 9ers. Enjoy watching him soar in the playoffs, Frisco. I'll take Lloyd, you keep Bryant and you can have the picks too. We wanted this guy for a reason. We have a reason for wanting all our guys. And yes, they will all flourish here because that seems to be the trend. We find a rusty penny and make 'em shine.

[whistleandthumb]

Just talked to a serious Niner fan here at work. He said Carter is very good at getting to the qb in one on ones. He was double teamed most of the season though causing a lack of production. Sounds like the same problem with Lloyd. No more double teams boys. You have a real football team with a Super Bowl champion coach. Glad to have you on board.
I DARE teams to double Carter. That'll either leave Daniels in one-on-one, or GW will overload a blitz, and Archuleta will rip out someone's spleen. Either way, our defense DESTROYS.

[Slobberknocker]

People around the league are forgetting that not only are we bringing in the best talent from other teams where they were neglected/not wanted, we're handing them to the best coaching staff in all of football. It's not like Williams and Saunders are working with cast offs. We have premier talent taught by mentors with otherworldly knowledge and character.

This is beyond spending money. This is building a quality team.

[skinfan08]

Okay Good signing although there might be questions on whether or not he can flourish out of the 3-4
PS- anyone heard anything on D.Evans I'd hate to lose our only pass rush threat from last year

[whistleandthumb]

People around the league are forgetting that not only are we bringing in the best talent from other teams where they were neglected/not wanted, we're handing them to the best coaching staff in all of football. It's not like Williams and Saunders are working with cast offs. We have premier talent taught by mentors with otherworldly knowledge and character.

This is beyond spending money. This is building a quality team.
That's the brilliance of this Free Agency period.

In the past 2 years, we HAVE worked with a lot of second-tier players, and our D has been in the top 10 both years. Our offense finished 11th last year, and we were a playoff team with a bunch of non-Pro Bowlers, as evidenced by our (just) 2 players in Hawaii this year.

Now, we have signed legitimate talent, and have, somehow, IMPROVED our coaching staff. This quite possibly is the dream team of football.

My only concern, now, is the hype is TOO much. But I'm not ready to go there yet. :)

[SkinsASchamps]

Good move. Young guy who has a high motor. He may have come from a 3-4 but GW uses so many schemes that it wont matter. He will have a lot of packages for AC. Good signing. I dont get where we get all this money but I love it.

[Campbell2Moss13]

This is going to be one of the most dangerous teams in all of Football.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

wow! i hopped on the bandwagon a few weeks ago when akh started driving it, so im happy. :) my question is, will he be a LB or bulk back up and move back to DE?

how in the holy hell can we afford these guys and there is talk about john abraham now... this is ridiculous, but ridiculously nice. :D

[Slobberknocker]

Another gem from The Ranch:

QUOTE: this team has no future (Redskins)

grimace save that for the birds. This team is upgrading for now to kick some serious azz next year. If this was the Cowboys making deals so rapidly you would be kissing Jerry's nut sack.

[darkwing99]

:lol1:

[whistleandthumb]

Another gem from The Ranch:

QUOTE: this team has no future (Redskins)

grimace save that for the birds. This team is upgrading for now to kick some serious azz next year. If this was the Cowboys making deals so rapidly you would be kissing Jerry's nut sack.
I just blew snot out of my nose reading that. That's absolutely hilarious!! :)

BTW - Your sig, Slobber, is GREAT. That just speaks to what a moronic, lame coach Nolan is.

[hogs86]

I go for a 2.hr run and we sign 1/2 of the NFL.:)

[danny's stogie]

BTW - Your sig, Slobber, is GREAT. That just speaks to what a moronic, lame coach Nolan is.

I hope someone posts that up in the 49ers locker room so that they know Nolan was talking smack about the quality of his own players.



My favorite post from the Ranch is this:


KSlate1983: And the eagles are tearin it up arent they Wynn?

On a realer note, dont you guys have more cap space than us? If so why is it so quiet out there in Philly?

Wynnron (an Eagle fan): Well I believe we rather invest in the future rather than squander money on old vets and ex Jet-Pats players that doesn't pan out to nothing more than a false temporary mirage delusional run.

Ownage.

[Slobberknocker]

BTW - Your sig, Slobber, is GREAT. That just speaks to what a moronic, lame coach Nolan is.

Have to update it now that we signed Carter.:sun:

Is it any wonder Lloyd had trouble in that locker room? If you saw his press conference today, you know he's got a fun personality. Clinton and Brandon will be a riot.

[RedskinRyan]

man, i should never leave the computer. we are having ourselves quite the offseason, id say right up there with the browns now. this looks to be a deadly team now. and i too am wondering where carter will play, whether it is as DE or OLB. but hopefully it means we will no longer go after abraham.

[whistleandthumb]

Have to update it now that we signed Carter.:sun:

Is it any wonder Lloyd had trouble in that locker room? If you saw his press conference today, you know he's got a fun personality. Clinton and Brandon will be a riot.
I'd love to see Lloyd provide a soundtrack to Portis's weekly PC's.

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

Another gem from The Ranch:

QUOTE: this team has no future (Redskins)

grimace save that for the birds. This team is upgrading for now to kick some serious azz next year. If this was the Cowboys making deals so rapidly you would be kissing Jerry's nut sack.

i love hearin opposing team fans complain about us spending money, it soothes me.:lol1: :lol1:

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

Woody Paige and Michael Smith picked us as the favorites in the NFC, i'm kinda scared cuz Woody Paige is a complete idiot when it comes to NFL matters

[hogs86]

My god look at his GUNS !!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/dadssportsroom/10201677.jpg

[WRSK1NS]

He'll more than likely replace Daniels at RDE with Wynn starting at LDE.
I dont think so, Daniels really came on at the end of last season and was more of a force than Wynn.

[GoDannyBoy]

Another gem from The Ranch:

QUOTE: this team has no future (Redskins)

grimace save that for the birds. This team is upgrading for now to kick some serious azz next year. If this was the Cowboys making deals so rapidly you would be kissing Jerry's nut sack.

I love it! They were kissing last year with all their FAs and draft picks. See what it got them. Ha, We will put it too them and good this year the Cowboys don't stand a chance!

[GoDannyBoy]

I bet GW rotates everybody. If for no other reason than to keep them guessing. AA and AC what a day!

[akhhorus]

You think that's bad, go check out the RanchReport. They have more posts about Carter than they do about signing Akin. You can literally lick the tears off the computer screen.

Its sort of like Cartman and Scott Tenorman.

[rskinsfan10]

For the record, Joe Gibbs just told George Michael that Carter is something that "we need to wait on and see".

Take that for what it's worth.

[skins111111]

nickleback and the D is good to go, or should I say GREAT to go.
OOOOOOOOOOO-LLLLLLLLINE.please please please

[skins lady]

My god look at his GUNS !!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/dadssportsroom/10201677.jpg
Archuleta, Taylor, Carter, and Washington...you better watch out.

[Red Bear]

he also told george michael that james thrash was an important guy in the WR group

[Campbell2Moss13]

Does anyone know when OTA start up.

[silverspring]

Its sort of like Cartman and Scott Tenorman.

I just made you eat your parents.

[ConradCountry]

Carter will be a DE and will start,

RDE Carter
NT Salave'a
DT Griffen
LDE Daniels

With Wynn playing running downs at RDE and pass rushing at DT.

[Slobberknocker]

Archuleta, Taylor, Carter, and Washington...you better watch out.

Imagine the look on opposing QB's faces if we line him up next to McCune!

[The Skinsinator]

Carter will be a DE and will start,

RDE Carter
NT Salave'a
DT Griffen
LDE Daniels

With Wynn playing running downs at RDE and pass rushing at DT.I agree and hope this is accurate. He is a tremendous upgrade over Wynn. I like Renaldo but Carter should be a vast improvement. That starting dline sounds great.

[Smurf85]

So is SF just giving up in winning.They seem like they are just getting worst.

[ConradCountry]

So is SF just giving up in winning.They seem like they are just getting worst.

I know they want to keep some of these guys but no one wants to play for a team that is not going, or not trying to become, competitive.

[Smurf85]

I was just watching ESPNEWS and Jon Clayton said we are signing Carter.If he says we are then we are.

[whistleandthumb]

I was just watching ESPNEWS and Jon Clayton said we are signing Carter.If he says we are then we are.
Whew. I got nervous there for a second, but if more peeps are reporting, then I think Coach was just doing his usual "Gibbs-speak." Ya know, he doesn't want to say anything until everything has been completed and filed with the league.

[The Skinsinator]

I was just watching ESPNEWS and Jon Clayton said we are signing Carter.If he says we are then we are.Always can count on old Johnny boy. I would love to hear what Sean Salisbury has to say about all this. Definitely have to watch Sportscenter tonight.

[Smurf85]

By the way he said we are not down.Not sure who else we could sign.He did say a QB and he also said we should be fine with the cap,because of the CBA.He said Dan finds a way to get it done when it comes to the money side of it.

[PA Skins Girl]

Scheffter just reported it. Also said that the Redskins told him this would be the last big name free agent signing.

[Smurf85]

Always can count on old Johnny boy. I would love to hear what Sean Salisbury has to say about all this. Definitely have to watch Sportscenter tonight.

I agree i want to hear what he has to say.I love what im hearing as of now.Not to many people are saying any thing bad about these moves.

[whistleandthumb]

Scheffter just reported it. Also said that the Redskins told him this would be the last big name free agent signing.
That would put an end to the Abe discussion.

[Smurf85]

Scheffter just reported it. Also said that the Redskins told him this would be the last big name free agent signing.

Really what else can we get.Well maybe some depth at o-line and corner.

[ConradCountry]

If they call it with Carter then this has been a great off-season.

[Smurf85]

If they call it with Carter then this has been a great off-season.

It could not get any better.I just dont want to wait until the season to start.:cry:

[The Skinsinator]

Scheffter just reported it. Also said that the Redskins told him this would be the last big name free agent signing.I'm glad to hear that almost. I don't think anyone could have predicted this. We have addressed almost everything and the draft hasn't even began yet. Glad to hear that the Carter deal will get done. Welcome to DC Andre.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

6 year 30 million. this isnt even fair, how are we spending big contracts on players like this? i know that we spread the money out in the years, but how are we able to do this with all these players?

[Redskinfan28]

Does he play DE or OLB? What will he play with us?

[tuckahoeskin]

I called in to our local SportsTalk on the way home today and got into a mild argument. The host was repeating the mantra that we'll be in cap hell, blah, blah, blah. I asked "Would you rather be a Skins fan with your team up against the cap every year or an Eagles fan whose team is $30m under the cap?" The point, that was missed by the host, was that it is irresponsible on the Eagles part to NOT spend more. The host made the point that the Eagles went out and got TO. To me, if you have the dollars, it is irresponsible to not go out and get more than TO. Unfortunately, that point wasn't taken very well by the host. He clearly has been following Don Banks and Pastabelly and whomever else the 4-letter network puts up.

[NCskinsfanatic]

If they call it with Carter then this has been a great off-season.
I agree and with our 2nd, a 4th or 5th for Ramsey, along with our picks in the 6th and one in the 7th we should be able to add the necessary "depth" to the OL, MLB, OLB, TE and CB positions that we need to be a very solid ballclub.

[akhhorus]

6 year 30 million. this isnt even fair, how are we spending big contracts on players like this? i know that we spread the money out in the years, but how are we able to do this with all these players?

Three words:
Lavar Love Hewitt.

By dumping him, we've saved enough money in future years to squeeze and twist the contracts so we can afford these guys now. They aren't getting that big Signing bonuses and have roster bonuses down the line which we could guarantee and spread out. Also, I assume that every contract has a voidable year with a balloon payment of 5-7 million so they look bigger than they really are.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Thanks for the confirmation on the cap akh. I believe this FO has learned from past mistakes and has signed young veteran talent to very manageable contracts over the course of the current CBA in attempt to win now but also ensure that we have the talent (especially at the playmaking positions) to be very competitive for the next few years.

[bgforever]

Three words:
Lavar Love Hewitt.

By dumping him, we've saved enough money in future years to squeeze and twist the contracts so we can afford these guys now. They aren't getting that big Signing bonuses and have roster bonuses down the line which we could guarantee and spread out. Also, I assume that every contract has a voidable year with a balloon payment of 5-7 million so they look bigger than they really are.


Great assessment. I had voidable final years on ALL and base yearly amounts very affordable. Meaning it could have been bonus with fulll spread of whole contract or larger amount up front in the first 3 yrs and voidable after year 4 or yr 5. Looks like magic year is 6.

[Redskinfan28]

I'm not sure that Carter is worth the money. He hasn't done anything the past few years and gets hurt all the time. This is the most questionable move we made, IMO.

The WR moves are good, because we can run 3 WR sets and stretch the field, which opens up natural running lanes for Portis. Then, if Ds bring the Safeties up to stop the run, our fast WRs can get behind the DBs. We should be very dangerous on O.

[bgforever]

I called in to our local SportsTalk on the way home today and got into a mild argument. The host was repeating the mantra that we'll be in cap hell, blah, blah, blah. I asked "Would you rather be a Skins fan with your team up against the cap every year or an Eagles fan whose team is $30m under the cap?" The point, that was missed by the host, was that it is irresponsible on the Eagles part to NOT spend more. The host made the point that the Eagles went out and got TO. To me, if you have the dollars, it is irresponsible to not go out and get more than TO. Unfortunately, that point wasn't taken very well by the host. He clearly has been following Don Banks and Pastabelly and whomever else the 4-letter network puts up.


basically he wasted your time with his elementary school knowledge of the NFL. If you like a team and are a fan, leave it at that, if that is all you know, but don't get on the air and just because you're talk show host, lambaste people as though they're on a team you hate. That's what you ran into, a HATER and he refuses to be a STUDENT of the game, like most of us.

Archuletta said it all. "I'm a fan of the Redskins' defense". He had been studying them for 2 yrs. If that talk show host had studied the Redskins capology news, updates in REALITY, he'd be a fan of the Redskins methods this season.

[Skinsfan1906]

You think that's bad, go check out the RanchReport. They have more posts about Carter than they do about signing Akin. You can literally lick the tears off the computer screen.

That was funny. Very funny.

Freakin' hilarious! :lol1:

[MONK_in_HOF]

Three words:
Lavar Love Hewitt.

By dumping him, we've saved enough money in future years to squeeze and twist the contracts so we can afford these guys now. They aren't getting that big Signing bonuses and have roster bonuses down the line which we could guarantee and spread out. Also, I assume that every contract has a voidable year with a balloon payment of 5-7 million so they look bigger than they really are.

That is the biggest reason I wanted the Skins and Lavar to part ways. I had no idea the amount of players we would be able to get due to the removal of his contract, and especially how soon after due to the buyout deal. Seeing that letting him go could lead to signing all these guys just solidifies my opinion that it was a must move for the Redskins.

[Slobberknocker]

If THIS is the benefit of parting ways with LaVar then I'll never look back. I think if you asked most fans on this board after seeing who we picked up, the overwhelming majority would agree.

A poll, maybe???

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

That would put an end to the Abe discussion.
Maybe he will come in with a trade, not a FA signing :)

BTW, I don't want Abe here.

[rskinsfan10]

If THIS is the benefit of parting ways with LaVar then I'll never look back. I think if you asked most fans on this board after seeing who we picked up, the overwhelming majority would agree.

A poll, maybe???LaVar leaving freed up some money, but not enough to create the ability to make all of these signings.

[Chief Seeway]

LaVar leaving freed up some money, but not enough to create the ability to make all of these signings.

Well, it probably made the structure of these contract more manageable in the future.

[MONK_in_HOF]

LaVar leaving freed up some money, but not enough to create the ability to make all of these signings.

True, but without me being an expert on the cap, the money saved from Lavar's contract this year and the 10 million or so per year that were upcoming has to free up a ton of options, with the cap continually growing and the various ways to structure contracts due to the CBA extension. I would think it was a key factor in being able to sign all these guys. Especially the removal of his cap numbers in upcoming seasons.

[rskinsfan10]

Well, it probably made the structure of these contract more manageable in the future.Maybe, but I wouldn't put alot of stock into that simply because if he would have stayed, it would have certainly been with more manageable numbers then what he was set to count against the cap previously. Also, the cap is already reported to go up to at least $107-108mil next year. That's another factor.

My only point is, let's not forget that a slew of guys restructured. Those deals have more ofa bearing on what we are able to do right now then anything else IMO.

[akhhorus]

LaVar leaving freed up some money, but not enough to create the ability to make all of these signings.

He freed up enough money over the next four years to pay for most of these guys(depending on the break down, but 10 million a year probably pays for ARE, Lloyd, Arch and Carter) and also having the free space allowed the skins to guarantee and spread out the Roster bonuses which freed up another 10 million this year and 8 million next.

[Chief Seeway]

Maybe, but I wouldn't put alot of stock into that simply because if he would have stayed, it would have certainly been with more manageable numbers then what he was set to count against the cap previously. Also, the cap is already reported to go up to at least $107-108mil next year. That's another factor.

My only point is, let's not forget that a slew of guys restructured. Those deals have more ofa bearing on what we are able to do right now then anything else IMO.

I agree. They are probably converting more than what is being reported.

[DoGood]

You think that's bad, go check out the RanchReport. They have more posts about Carter than they do about signing Akin. You can literally lick the tears off the computer screen.

HAHAHA. That thread is the longest on the front page, by 3 pages.:) :lol1:

[DoGood]

i don't care how much it will cost. we need to hire away their cap guy. this dude is unreal.

:lol1:

http://mb19.scout.com/fcowboyupdatefrm10.showMessage?topicID=98921.topic

[helimech24]

They are filling bid needs with good players. Can't argue with the FO this year. Another move I like. DE or LB.

[Jayman]

Our 2nd round pick will now officially be either a CB or a O linemen.

It should be a Guard or TE because of the depth of talent.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

So we just got Carter, and are still pursuing John Abraham? Man, they didn't waiste anytime. Its going to be scary next season.