Skins sign OG

[Monk81]

Not sure if it's already posted but skins signed mike Pucillo OG from the Browns to a 4 yr. deal

[Biggie]

I hope we still sign Goodwin. We need two quality backups along the interior line and two more at tackle (at least in my view).

By the way, here are his stats:

Mike Pucillo, OG, Washington Redskins (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302108)

[OCSkinzFan]

# 61 Mike Pucillo
Position: G
Height: 6-4
Weight: 311
Born: 07/14/1979
College: Auburn
NFL Experience: 5


That's all I know about him. Any body now anything? I guess he's depth only, 18 career starts.

[Campbell2Moss13]

I think Goodwin was asking for too much and also he probably wanted to start.

[akhhorus]

Guard/Center tweener. He filled in for Faine for a few games at Center. The book on him from Scout.com is that he's an intelligent lineman who lacks brute strength.

[OCSkinzFan]

Draft: 2002 - 7th round (4th pick) by the Buffalo Bills

Here's his draft notes from 2002:


ANALYSIS

Positives: Intelligent lineman who compensates for a lack of an athletic physique with sound technical skills … Has effective linear speed … Shows good hand placement and takes excellent blocking angles with surprising quickness, despite his frame … Dominates defenders with his lateral agility, showing suddenness to reach and zone … Knows how to sink his hips to maintain balance … Shows good explosion coming off the snap … Makes blocks based on very good use of his hands … Takes advantage of leverage to make up for a lack of brute strength … Can pull and connect on the move, using his techniques to defeat and control opponents.

Negatives: Needs to dedicate himself more in the weight room … Very weak in the lower-body region … Has a tendency to put his head down, which causes him to lose balance … Struggles in pass protection when he stands too upright and must remember to keep his hips down low to be effective in this area … Marginal, at best, as an incline blocker … Has good awareness on the field, but this gets lost in his lack of lower-body strength, as a strong power surge can send him back on his heels.

CAREER NOTES
Versatile lineman with experience at both guard and tackle … Came into his own as a senior, establishing himself as one of the best drive blockers in the Southeast … Started 25 consecutive games for the Tigers.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2002/profiles/pucillo_mike.htm#agility

[Fathead]

Sounds like if we can get him in the weight room, he's decent depth.

[whistleandthumb]

Depth, depth, depth...

Some teams lose seasons because someone on the OL goes down with an injury, and they have no one that can step in and recover.

[LATrueRedskin]

I think we still need one more hybrid lineman for real solid depth. This guy is a solid backup it seems, but we need to avoid the "Cory Raymer situation" that happened during the Seattle game.

[RichardBradley]

good .... we need depth

[PA Skins Girl]

I like the fact that he can play center and guard.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Good news..as long as he is cheap (I think so), young (yes), and as good as Ray Brown (hope so) then it's fine with me..the more o-lineman we get the better...

[Vonslydog]

For a while we were loading up on Miami guys. It looks like were stocking up on Auburn guys now.

[FanFromArizona]

I am glad to see this kind of signing, a young backup under the tutelage of Buges, should be a good signing.

Now I guess Buges is going to have 3 projects: Dock, Molinaro, and now this dude.

One more backup and we should be good to go on depth.

[S.Taylor36]

Really the only other time I wanna hear this guys name again is in a 4th quarter blowout and when he gets his Super Bowl Ring.

[silverspring]

I knew we were going to add some depth i am just glad we are going for younger guys that still have upside

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Really the only other time I wanna hear this guys name again is in a 4th quarter blowout and when he gets his Super Bowl Ring.
I definitely agree...not because I don't like him or anything, it's just that I'd like our line to be injury free for once this year...

[shally]

Draft: 2002 - 7th round (4th pick) by the Buffalo Bills

Here's his draft notes from 2002:


ANALYSIS

Positives: Intelligent lineman who compensates for a lack of an athletic physique with sound technical skills … Has effective linear speed … Shows good hand placement and takes excellent blocking angles with surprising quickness, despite his frame … Dominates defenders with his lateral agility, showing suddenness to reach and zone … Knows how to sink his hips to maintain balance … Shows good explosion coming off the snap … Makes blocks based on very good use of his hands … Takes advantage of leverage to make up for a lack of brute strength … Can pull and connect on the move, using his techniques to defeat and control opponents.

Negatives: Needs to dedicate himself more in the weight room … Very weak in the lower-body region … Has a tendency to put his head down, which causes him to lose balance … Struggles in pass protection when he stands too upright and must remember to keep his hips down low to be effective in this area … Marginal, at best, as an incline blocker … Has good awareness on the field, but this gets lost in his lack of lower-body strength, as a strong power surge can send him back on his heels.

CAREER NOTES
Versatile lineman with experience at both guard and tackle … Came into his own as a senior, establishing himself as one of the best drive blockers in the Southeast … Started 25 consecutive games for the Tigers.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2002/profiles/pucillo_mike.htm#agility

sounds like lennie friedman.. self made player. smart guy. versatile. a good signing for the team and a long term backup with spot starting potential..

[SkinsGuru77]

Redskins | T. Walter signed
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:25:11 -0800

The Washington Redskins have signed free agent C Tyson Walter (Texans). Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Redskins | T. Walter signed
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:25:11 -0800

The Washington Redskins have signed free agent C Tyson Walter (Texans). Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

All right..the more we sign the better..they can fight for a spot in training camp..

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302141

[shally]

Guard/Center tweener. He filled in for Faine for a few games at Center. The book on him from Scout.com is that he's an intelligent lineman who lacks brute strength.

akh...

he sounds as though he is exactly the same age as ben nowland the center we had on practice squad, who was also from auburn as i recall.. wonder if campbell tipped the front office to this player and i wonder who was the better player at auburn when they were there.. do you have anything further on them ?

thanks

[Campbell2Moss13]

So is the depth chart look like this
Samuels Dockery Rabach Thomas Jansen
Alston Ndukwe Walter Pucillo Molinero
This is great depth. So what do the redskins draft?

[SkinsGuru77]

C Tyson Walter (Texans)..... I wonder if we really want a Lineman from the Texans. I know we need depth but you might as well go to the hardware store and pick up a wooden sawhorse!:)

[Redskinfan28]

I would be surprised if Walter holds a spot when the season starts. I doubt we are done addressing OL depth.

[shally]

I would be surprised if Walter holds a spot when the season starts. I doubt we are done addressing OL depth.


i knew i recalled the name.. he was a starter for the cowboys a couple of years back. can play every line position.. sounds like very good depth to have

[PA Skins Girl]

Redskins | T. Walter signed
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:25:11 -0800

The Washington Redskins have signed free agent C Tyson Walter (Texans). Terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Is he a center or a tackle? Player page lists him as a tackle.

Edit: Nevermind. Thanks Shally.

[redskin_rich]

I never heard of either of these guys but as far as Pucillo goes, if his only negative is strength and needing weight training, no problem there. That is easily fixable.

What is the scouting report on Walter?

[PA Skins Girl]

I never heard of either of these guys but as far as Pucillo goes, if his only negative is strength and needing weight training, no problem there. That is easily fixable.

What is the scouting report on Walter?
Agreed. Plus, those were his scouting notes coming out of college. He's four years older now. Maybe he's already bulked up some.

[PA Skins Girl]

So, now what? Do we still draft OL depth?

[redskinz#1fan]

I'm glad that we are adding the much needed depth to our O-line! This makes me feel a lot better. Sure hated it when Raymer came into the game last year, and was getting man-handled on the field.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I really like both of these signings, seemingly inexpensive versatile lineman that add the depth we needed on the O-line. Not every player needs to be a big name to help build a championship team, I think these are smart signings by the FO. I like the fact that we're not just sitting back and expecting to fill our remaining needs through the draft alone. By shoring up the line and addressing WR, TE, DE and SS through FA we can draft wisely with an eye towards the future and not just the "now".

[Red Bear]

Pucillo could be preparing for if dockery leaves us in free agency next year, i think its a good signing, as well as walters. especially if they both know multiple positions along the line. if they make the 53 man roster guys like ndukwe and alston will probably be cut or on the practice squad

[redskin_rich]

So, now what? Do we still draft OL depth?
It's hard to say. First off, the coaches need to see these guys in the pre-draft OTA's. Second, we have to see what happens with Dock, I want to keep him but if another team decides to overpay him and is willing to give up a high pick...Third, it still comes down to what falls to us with our first pick, which is 53rd overall, I believe. I still think we should take the best available athlete but at a position of need: DB, OL, DL or even TE if the right guy is there.

[GolfFreak]

Good signing! Glad we addressed the OLine finally.

[GolfFreak]

Redskins | T. Walter signed
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:25:11 -0800

The Washington Redskins have signed free agent C Tyson Walter (Texans). Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Wow, two OLine people! Glad to see it. Now we can address DB or LB with our 1st draft pick.

[colkurtz]

More competition at the backfill OL positions. I think this will raise the bar for Marlino and Wilson [draft picks from 2004].

The coaches are setting the draft up for a CB or FS in my opinion.

[GoDannyBoy]

I wonder if the office is thinking depth lineman are like kickers? Don't draft them if you can wait a few years and let them gain experience, maybe they mature a bit and are ready to spend time studying film.

[colkurtz]

Wilson played for the Teaxans. In fact, I don't think he played all last season.
Also, didn't the Texans QB get sacked an unbelivable number of times these last two seasons?

They must really see something in this guy. Or maybe he's just very, very cheap. Or both.

[santanadasavior]

Keep adding the depth FO. I like this move a lot.

[bgforever]

I hope we still sign Goodwin. We need two quality backups alog the interior line and two more at tackle (at least in my view).

By the way, here are his stats:

Mike Pucillo, OG, Washington Redskins (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302108)

thanks for both hotshot UPDATES! I agree Goodwin still sounds like a Redskin to me :)

this is still a good plus with Pucillo, because we get the depth, but he has had 25 starts! That erases the bubblegum adapting to the NFL pace that is needed with draft choices. If we nail Goodwin or someone close to his level, we don't need to look to the draft.

[bgforever]

More competition at the backfill OL positions. I think this will raise the bar for Marlino and Wilson [draft picks from 2004].

The coaches are setting the draft up for a CB or FS in my opinion.


Like that sound my friend, like that sound! :flower1:

[S.Taylor36]

I think we go CB depth now in the draft. Can't have to many CB's.

[Red Bear]

Also, didn't the Texans QB get sacked an unbelivable number of times these last two seasons?

They must really see something in this guy. Or maybe he's just very, very cheap. Or both.

one guy doesnt make the oline, plus the coaching staff has a lot to do with the blocking schemes they teach/run

[skins111111]

Do we really have enough QUALITY debth on the O-Line if a starter goes down???????I'm thinkin no

[skins111111]

The skinz have Alston and Nedukwe who are very physical and 300+ pounds. They have the two guys they signed today, and the Molinero who is not all that bad. What you have to remember is that they are not going to be starting and anything is better then Raymer.

maybe so but I don't see Ray Brown quality on the inside........or do we??????? I don't really know these guys but they don't look all that impressive and everything starts with the -Line

[redwolf1218]

this guy must have been a team mate of Jason Campbell at least for one year right?

[bgforever]

maybe so but I don't see Ray Brown quality on the inside........or do we??????? I don't really know these guys but they don't look all that impressive and everything starts with the -Line


This is depth, TC looks, maybe OTA's looks, and hopefully one or two of these guys makes the cut. I am thinking of the two signed today, one of them makes it. If we get Goodwin, you can further the competition, bring in a draftee, if need be (or better yet, an undrafted - THEY WORK HARDER THAN ALL, because the odds are stacked against them). Now if you have Dockery back with this going on in the background, it makes for a great pool to draw the starting and 2nd/3rd depth players at OG/C.

[redskin_rich]

this guy must have been a team mate of Jason Campbell at least for one year right?
Yeah they were teammates but JC wasn't playing then.

[redwolf1218]

i guess we'll need at least 3 guys to replace the depth vacated by Ray Brown, Lenny Friedman and Cory Raymer. between the 2 new guys, plus the Wilson and Molinaro draft picks, hopefully the depth will be upgraded.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

browns fan are saying that he is a decent back up OG (not C!)-but it ends there.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Ok so with our two most recent signings, what is our situation right now? I think Vinny said we will carry 9 lineman, so that's the 5 starters plus 4 more..who do we have to choose those four from?

[dogfight6]

More, more, I want more o-linemen.

[TOUGHSKIN]

the more depth on the line the better we are:) :)

[chrisbcbu]

browns fan are saying that he is a decent back up OG (not C!)-but it ends there.

Im not sure where anyone got that he was a backup for center. According to his stats he is a backup to the guard position and TACKLE.

[AliBabba]

More competition at the backfill OL positions. I think this will raise the bar for Marlino and Wilson [draft picks from 2004].

The coaches are setting the draft up for a CB or FS in my opinion.
I think you mean Molinaro and Wilson .... but I don't know if this really pushes them since they both play T and the new signings are at G and C

[shally]

I think you mean Molinaro and Wilson .... but I don't know if this really pushes them since they both play T and the new signings are at G and C


wilson is long gone..

we have alston and ndukwe as possibles off of the practice squad.. plus whomever we draft or sign post draft.. lots of young bodies. should be good

[guinness4health]

Im not sure where anyone got that he was a backup for center. According to his stats he is a backup to the guard position and TACKLE.

I think that people may have gotten the impression he is a back-up guard/center from the redskins..... Pucillo is a 6-4, 311-pound interior offensive lineman who can both guard and center. .... source (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=16103)

[RedskinsATW!]

LOVE IT!! Darwinism at its finest!

Okay, we're carrying 9 and we have 5 solid starters returning. Okay that leaves 4 slots for the rest of you 18 to compete for. Who REALLY wants a job?! That Buge's guy has been doing this a couple years so I think he'll get the right group of players.

I think we'll go after LB or CB with #53 depending on who's available then. If Cromartie or D'Quell's on the board (which I doubt) then it's done deal. But after that I bet O-line will get a lot of attention.

As I told the little Mrs.. "We're getting NFL Sunday ticket again this year in case there was any doubt before." (We're currently in KY). I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER!!!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Im not sure where anyone got that he was a backup for center. According to his stats he is a backup to the guard position and TACKLE.
the browns board i was reading said they tried him a center to replace jeff faine and absolutely got destroyed, but he is capable at guard.

[HanburgerBum]

While I welcome the Skins attempt to add depth to the OLine, I am concerned about where Pucillo and Walters come from (Cleveland and Houston). These were two of the worst OLines in the League last year. If the Browns and Texans found these guys expendable, that concerns me.

My hope is that Cleveland and Houston, among the worst organizations in the NFL, were mistaken about these two. Or, Buges can take other people's garbage and turn it into fine wine.

I also hope that the front office is not done. Keep digging. Maybe Goodwin will come around. And, at least one experienced backup tackle candidate needs to be brought in to compete against Molinaro. And, I wouldn't rule out drafting a OLineman with the 2nd round pick.

[redwolf1218]

the browns board i was reading said they tried him a center to replace jeff faine and absolutely got destroyed, but he is capable at guard.
whomever we get, they cant be any worse than Raymer, even they just lay down and trip someone up that would be better than Raymer.

[GibbsFan]

Glad to see some kind of depth begin to arrive! Backup LT necessary now unless their confident in Molinaro.

[CLTSkin]

This is depth, TC looks, maybe OTA's looks, and hopefully one or two of these guys makes the cut. I am thinking of the two signed today, one of them makes it. If we get Goodwin, you can further the competition, bring in a draftee, if need be (or better yet, an undrafted - THEY WORK HARDER THAN ALL, because the odds are stacked against them). Now if you have Dockery back with this going on in the background, it makes for a great pool to draw the starting and 2nd/3rd depth players at OG/C.

Agree about the undrafted FA's, there is a guard that I dont think will get drafted since he had a knee injury midway through the season from Florida State, Matt Meinrod who is a guard and was by far the best lineman on the front 5 for FSU not only that was the strongest player on the team... that accompanied by a mean streak he is a good one that I think will unfortunately fall through the cracks.

With the 53rd pick we hopefully will go after a CB or maybe a safety depending on ST... But someone stated Antonio Cromartie, unless we trade up to the end of the first round or the top of the second round maybe, no way we get him, that kid is a freak and if he somehow slipped all the way to us their will be a lot of GM's who drafted before us that will be kicking themselves, imho.

[shally]

Agree about the undrafted FA's, there is a guard that I dont think will get drafted since he had a knee injury midway through the season from Florida State, Matt Meinrod who is a guard and was by far the best lineman on the front 5 for FSU not only that was the strongest player on the team... that accompanied by a mean streak he is a good one that I think will unfortunately fall through the cracks.

With the 53rd pick we hopefully will go after a CB or maybe a safety depending on ST... But someone stated Antonio Cromartie, unless we trade up to the end of the first round or the top of the second round maybe, no way we get him, that kid is a freak and if he somehow slipped all the way to us their will be a lot of GM's who drafted before us that will be kicking themselves, imho.


the way players rise and fall for little reason all you can say is that someone is going to fall to the skins who likely shouldn't.
i thought that griffin might drift down, but he had a great pro day workout and i doubt it now. BUT for every guy who rises, somebody has to drift down. i think given the depth at corner, linebacker, tight end, and def end-- you can pretty much count on one of those positions representing great value when the skins pick comes up. i think that is the key-- don't force the pick, take the best guy at one of several positions..

[tommahawk]

I like both the players we added to the line. Althogh young they are big at 300+ pounds.
Both have been criticized for poor technique. Hopefully they can come here and be coached by the best (Buges) and become solid linemen.

[Axegrinder]

Buges is probably smiling right now.

[shally]

Buges is probably smiling right now.

yup.. he has some raw meat to work with. but he couldn't do much with wilson or friedman.. and molinaro looks to be a slow learner as well

[taylor21]

thats great we need the depth! maybe we can get some depth at cb now

[Dept_of_Defense]

I like both the players we added to the line. Althogh young they are big at 300+ pounds.
Both have been criticized for poor technique. Hopefully they can come here and be coached by the best (Buges) and become solid linemen.
I think Buges loves young projects. He has done nothing but praised Dockery (which by the way if anyone knows his status w/ the team, please fill me in...), and I think these 2 guys wouldn't be here if there wasn't potential. But again, anything other than Cory Raymer is a win.

[shally]

While I welcome the Skins attempt to add depth to the OLine, I am concerned about where Pucillo and Walters come from (Cleveland and Houston). These were two of the worst OLines in the League last year. If the Browns and Texans found these guys expendable, that concerns me.

My hope is that Cleveland and Houston, among the worst organizations in the NFL, were mistaken about these two. Or, Buges can take other people's garbage and turn it into fine wine.

I also hope that the front office is not done. Keep digging. Maybe Goodwin will come around. And, at least one experienced backup tackle candidate needs to be brought in to compete against Molinaro. And, I wouldn't rule out drafting a OLineman with the 2nd round pick.


the only thing i can say about that is that the cleveland defensive line was atrocious. then denver picks up 3 or 4 guys from them and they all played well for the broncs.. they actually had a very solid defensive line using brown, myers, warren.. now they went after lang, another cleveland reject.

so perhaps buges can coach 'em up and we will have solid reserves. i saw where goodwin was close to signing somewhere else. guess he decided there was little chance of starting here, or the money was better elsewhere.

[meloveskinslongtime]

awesome, thats great and all ..... we needed inside depth, but what really concerns me is outside depth, we need a capable tackle to step in if one of our studs get injured ..... at this point, i think that is a priority (for o line depth) rather than a guard for depth

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I am glad, cause now we don't have to use that first draft pick for an O-lineman. We can go ahead and get a LB.

[HanburgerBum]

the only thing i can say about that is that the cleveland defensive line was atrocious. then denver picks up 3 or 4 guys from them and they all played well for the broncs.. they actually had a very solid defensive line using brown, myers, warren.. now they went after lang, another cleveland reject.

so perhaps buges can coach 'em up and we will have solid reserves. i saw where goodwin was close to signing somewhere else. guess he decided there was little chance of starting here, or the money was better elsewhere.


That Denver/Cleveland DLine thing did surprise me. It is hard to believe that just changing uniforms and scenaries can transform the players. So, I guess it must be the coaching. Hopefully, Buges can do the same for Pucillo and Walters.

By the way, where did you read about Goodwin signing elsewhere? With what team? Too bad, I think he would have been quality depth with perhaps a chance to unseat Dockery on a contending team.