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redskinz#1fan
03-25-2006, 09:18 AM
Here is another article about our FA signings and our expected draft day moves. It also includes info about the other teams in the NFC.

Scroll down the page to get to our info!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5429734

RichardBradley
03-25-2006, 09:35 AM
different article same story

akhhorus
03-25-2006, 09:44 AM
This idiot thinks the Skins gave up their 1st rounder and 4th rounder this year to the Broncos as part of the Champ/Portis deal...wow is he credible!

FanFromArizona
03-25-2006, 09:58 AM
I think the article was overall fairly written, I will just discount the part that Randel El and Lloyd are unreliable.
I think much of that "unreliability" for Lloyd was the position he was finding himself in playing on a dreary team,
I am sure we will see better statistics this year from both RE and BL.

Good pickup too, akh. That part had me laughing also. [1st and 4th rounder were for Campbell!]

S.Taylor36
03-25-2006, 10:23 AM
As long as people keep hating it's ll good with me. I know what we got and everyone will see it soon enough. Funny how people still think Norv Turner is still our coach our something. With Gibbs, Williams and Saunders I'm just fine with everything that is going on in Redskinland.

SkinsKY
03-25-2006, 10:34 AM
This idiot thinks the Skins gave up their 1st rounder and 4th rounder this year to the Broncos as part of the Champ/Portis deal...wow is he credible!

That's how it happend right?

akhhorus
03-25-2006, 10:35 AM
That's how it happend right?

No, those picks were part of the Campbell trade.

Huston24
03-25-2006, 10:45 AM
This idiot thinks the Skins gave up their 1st rounder and 4th rounder this year to the Broncos as part of the Champ/Portis deal...wow is he credible!

I saw this article last night and noticed this too. Once I saw that I knew i couldn't believe too much that he said. Just another writer not doing their research. Im not worried because i know we are in good hands.

SpicyMcHaggis
03-25-2006, 11:26 AM
This idiot thinks the Skins gave up their 1st rounder and 4th rounder this year to the Broncos as part of the Champ/Portis deal...wow is he credible!

Wow he was really paying attention at the time..1) it was one of the biggest trades in the last 10 years in the NFL, 2)everybody was saying we shouldn't have given up our 2nd rounder, and 3)he thinks we gave up two picks two years down the road??Does he even know when the trade happened?
:banghead:

skinfan08
03-25-2006, 12:42 PM
Wow he was really paying attention at the time..1) it was one of the biggest trades in the last 10 years in the NFL, 2)everybody was saying we shouldn't have given up our 2nd rounder, and 3)he thinks we gave up two picks two years down the road??Does he even know when the trade happened?
:banghead:
The rules at sport journalism school:
1. Mock every redskin move
2. make up whatever you want as long as it mocks the redskins
(doesnt apply to other teams though)

HanburgerBum
03-25-2006, 01:29 PM
While this writer fumbled the ball on the 1st and 4th rounders to Denver in the Bailey-Portis deal, he did get it right about Drew Bledsoe.

What a stiff Bledsoe is. He is easier to sack than your grandmother on her bad days. It is incredible that the Cowboys didn't make a move to acquire Culpepper or Brees, or even someone like Josh McGown. If the Cowboys like Bledsoe so much, the Skins should have traded Bledsoe's clone Patrick Ramsey to them. Dallas surely would have given up more than a 6th rounder for PR.

OCSkinzFan
03-25-2006, 01:31 PM
His research was weak and his writing was not professional as well. He even used a misplaced modifier, a high school writing mistake. He said:

"With Roy Williams' struggles last season defending deep passes, the Cowboys would be well served to find a safety to play alongside Williams, who excels in pass coverage"

which means Williams excels in pass coverage. He should have said:

With Roy Williams' struggles last season defending deep passes, the Cowboys would be well served to find a safety who excels in pass coverage to play alongside Williams.

Picky? Yes, but this is just another reason to pshaw the credibility of Al Bogdan of FOX Sports.

FOX=:inkston:

bgforever
03-25-2006, 01:52 PM
As long as people keep hating it's ll good with me. I know what we got and everyone will see it soon enough. Funny how people still think Norv Turner is still our coach our something. With Gibbs, Williams and Saunders I'm just fine with everything that is going on in Redskinland.


Ahhh. Hate, yes, the charcoal for my fireplace, yes bring it on. Make my fire grow as I stay warm to the Love of the Truth. Yes, thats' it, nice to have them hating still. The season games hasn't started soon enough!

LadyNRedskinsfan
03-25-2006, 02:39 PM
umm...exactly how old is this article? whats up with this comment?

In addition, guard Kyle Kosier was brought in as a backup across the line and a possible starter at guard should the Cowboys release perennial Pro-Bowler Larry Allen — due a $2 million bonus on April 1.

how many days ago did that happen?

OCSkinzFan
03-25-2006, 02:41 PM
umm...exactly how old is this article? whats up with this comment?


how many days ago did that happen?

It's Fox, they don't need facts.

Biggie
03-25-2006, 02:47 PM
umm...exactly how old is this article? whats up with this comment?


how many days ago did that happen?

More than 15 hours ago. In fact, Allen was already with the '9ers when this article came out.

Biggie
03-25-2006, 02:54 PM
Dear Mr. Bogdan:

I wish to inform you of two issues concerning your recent article on the NFC East for FOXSports.com (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5429734). First of all, the Washington Redskins lost their first- and fourth-rounder to the Denver Broncos in the Jason Campbell trade. The Baily-Portis trade was two years ago. Furthermore, as you mentioned Larry Allen possibly being cut by the Dallas Cowboys, he had already signed with the San Francisco 49ers at the time your article was published.

Thank you for your time.

What I just sent to him.

LadyNRedskinsfan
03-25-2006, 02:56 PM
What I just sent to him.
if he figures out that you are a redskins fan, i expect his response to be something like this:

"Thanks, but who cares?"

:D

Biggie
03-25-2006, 03:01 PM
if he figures out that you are a redskins fan, i expect his response to be something like this:

"Thanks, but who cares?"

:D

I think the Larry Allen thing should keep him off the trail. :)

thickskin
03-25-2006, 03:59 PM
jesus h. a shiny new lombardi trophy won't even be enough to shut some of these clowns up. way i figure it, it'll take the bright eagle of victory bursting from joe jackson gibbs' urethra and winging into the heights with their firstborn writhing in its talons.

Red Bear
03-25-2006, 04:30 PM
there is so much wrong with that article, its too much to bother stating everything thats wrong with it. im going to forget i ever read such a horrible written article, the content isnt even an issue here. it must of took the guy like a week to write that because he is behind in a lot of the news.

santanadasavior
03-25-2006, 06:43 PM
This idiot thinks the Skins gave up their 1st rounder and 4th rounder this year to the Broncos as part of the Champ/Portis deal...wow is he credible!

It really can't be that tough to actually get it right. I mean, it should be pretty easy to just hollar down the hall of the office and I'm sure that someone knows what the trade was. Unless this is the office from the monster jobs commercial.

SimplyZ
03-26-2006, 01:33 AM
he fixed the draft pick thing...must be a little embarassing, but i guess thats what happens when your "experts" aren't really experts

AliBabba
03-26-2006, 06:36 AM
umm...exactly how old is this article? whats up with this comment?


how many days ago did that happen?


If you look to the right column, there is an NFL News box. Halfway down the list of links is "• 49ers land ex-Cowboys star lineman Allen " :banghead:

He's being contradicted right on the same page! lol

Biggie
03-26-2006, 02:56 PM
I got a reply back from him.

Thanks for the feedback. You're right, the Redskins mistake shouldn't have made it into the article. The article was first printed on FootballOutsiders.com before the Allen cut was official. It wasn't changed by the time it made it up on the FoxSports front page. Thanks for reading.

Slobberknocker
03-26-2006, 03:29 PM
A few days ago, Pat Kirwin (a guy I generally like and trust) was asked on NFL Network which team, now that the bulk of the big moves have been made, improved their team the most in free agency.

I was expecting a nod to the Browns, maybe Seattle, on a reach, us. Nope. He picked the Cowgirls. That's right. The lone team he singled out for his highest praise. After that, all bets were off.

However, Ike Reese, from the Falcons, who visited the NFL Network studios last week as guest commentator, picked the Redskins as impressing him the most. "They filled needs," he said, "unlike in the past."

Which only goes to show you, players are the ones who know what's up. The mediots don't get what's happening until it's already occurred.

"Joe Gibbs was right," will be music to my ears.

FanFromArizona
03-26-2006, 03:31 PM
A few days ago, Pat Kirwin (a guy I generally like and trust) was asked on NFL Network which team, now that the bulk of the big moves have been made, improved their team the most in free agency.

I was expecting a nod to the Browns, maybe Seattle, on a reach, us. Nope. He picked the Cowgirls. That's right. The lone team he singled out for his highest praise. After that, all bets were off.

However, Ike Reese, from the Falcons, who visited the NFL Network studios last week as guest commentator, picked the Redskins as impressing him the most. "They filled needs," he said, "unlike in the past."

Which only goes to show you, players are the ones who know what's up. The mediots don't get what's happening until it's already occurred.

"Joe Gibbs was right," will be music to my ears.

always listen to active players over mediots.

paner
04-01-2006, 08:58 AM
did you guys see :

Clark's take on the skins offseason

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9349733

Sportsline Clark Judge had this to say about the winners and losers of free agency.


Worst free-agent additions

3. Antwaan Randle El, Washington: Here's another one I don't understand. You guarantee $11.5 million for a guy who, essentially, is a return specialist? Wow. What a great country. Yes, he can do a lot of things, but serving as your No. 2 receiver isn't one of them. Randle El's specialty is that he's versatile, but he won't catch more than 35-45 passes a year.


Under the radar

4. Andre Carter, Washington: Once, San Francisco attracted talent; now it drives it away -- and here's the proof. Carter could be a terrific pass rusher ... and was when the 49ers played a 4-3. But he was lost as a linebacker and quickly fell out of favor. Leave it to defensive coordinator Gregg Williams to find the right defense for this guy. Remember, Carter had 12.5 sacks in 2002. That's not that long ago. And he's only 26. I didn't like a lot of what Washington did, but I did like this move. Look for Carter to have a big year.


What I think about ...


2. The Washington Redskins: Daniel Snyder is the George Steinbrenner of football, and if he can't win a championship, he'll buy one. He overpaid to keep defensive coordinator Gregg Williams; he overpaid to hire offensive coordinator Al Saunders. Then he overpaid just about every free agent the club signed, and outside of Andre Carter, I'm not sure the Redskins helped themselves all that much. I remember running into a Pittsburgh assistant at the NFL scouting combine in February, and he told me he didn't think the Steelers could keep Antwaan Randle El because someone would pay him $7 million-$8 million. Then the Redskins laid out $11.5 in guaranteed money. My Steelers guy was floored. Randle El is versatile, but he's a No. 3 receiver who can return punts. Yeah, he can throw. He can run. He can catch. But he's not your second receiver, and last year's numbers prove it: He had 35 catches for Pittsburgh -- or nearly half the total of Hines Ward. I thought Washington was nuts when it handed Laveranues Coles a $13 million signing bonus three years ago, but at least he was their lead receiver. In Randle El, you just spent megabucks for a return specialist.

redskinz#1fan
04-01-2006, 09:24 AM
did you guys see :

Clark's take on the skins offseason

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9349733

Sportsline Clark Judge had this to say about the winners and losers of free agency.


Worst free-agent additions

3. Antwaan Randle El, Washington: Here's another one I don't understand. You guarantee $11.5 million for a guy who, essentially, is a return specialist? Wow. What a great country. Yes, he can do a lot of things, but serving as your No. 2 receiver isn't one of them. Randle El's specialty is that he's versatile, but he won't catch more than 35-45 passes a year.


Under the radar

4. Andre Carter, Washington: Once, San Francisco attracted talent; now it drives it away -- and here's the proof. Carter could be a terrific pass rusher ... and was when the 49ers played a 4-3. But he was lost as a linebacker and quickly fell out of favor. Leave it to defensive coordinator Gregg Williams to find the right defense for this guy. Remember, Carter had 12.5 sacks in 2002. That's not that long ago. And he's only 26. I didn't like a lot of what Washington did, but I did like this move. Look for Carter to have a big year.


What I think about ...


2. The Washington Redskins: Daniel Snyder is the George Steinbrenner of football, and if he can't win a championship, he'll buy one. He overpaid to keep defensive coordinator Gregg Williams; he overpaid to hire offensive coordinator Al Saunders. Then he overpaid just about every free agent the club signed, and outside of Andre Carter, I'm not sure the Redskins helped themselves all that much. I remember running into a Pittsburgh assistant at the NFL scouting combine in February, and he told me he didn't think the Steelers could keep Antwaan Randle El because someone would pay him $7 million-$8 million. Then the Redskins laid out $11.5 in guaranteed money. My Steelers guy was floored. Randle El is versatile, but he's a No. 3 receiver who can return punts. Yeah, he can throw. He can run. He can catch. But he's not your second receiver, and last year's numbers prove it: He had 35 catches for Pittsburgh -- or nearly half the total of Hines Ward. I thought Washington was nuts when it handed Laveranues Coles a $13 million signing bonus three years ago, but at least he was their lead receiver. In Randle El, you just spent megabucks for a return specialist.

This guy is a total waste..........I have nothing further to say, just a waste of oxygen and time! :sfight:

WillieWilliams
04-01-2006, 09:48 AM
I don't mean to rain on anyones parade but lets be serious, if the giants, eagles or cowboys signed Randle-El we would be saying the exact same things. Sure, he's a sweet guy to have on the team but who knows how much we'll benefit from having him at third or even fourth receiver. I still think that both Patten and Lloyd are better receivers than Randle-El but he's always a threat on a punt return and trick plays when he's in.

bantu
04-01-2006, 11:38 AM
I think all this talk of overpaying doesn't mean a darn thing cuz we are the 'Skins and this is what we do. We have the guts to lay the money down to get what we want. What does overpaying really mean?? That we are gonna be in cap hell?? I should know, being one of the haters about our cap practices, that we are never in cap hell. Do they mean we could have gotten them for cheaper? Maybe we could have, but there is a reason most players don't get to leave before they sign with us.

paner
04-04-2006, 07:09 AM
fyi :

Washington

The Redskins have concerns on defense, namely filling LaVar Arrington’s WLB spot and hoping that FS Sean Taylor avoids serious legal trouble in his assault and battery case, scheduled to begin April 10. But there’s also a lot to be excited about. First, the team was able to manage well without Arrington for the first part of last season and without him playing a large role in Gregg Williams’ scheme. The team might favor bringing back Warrick Holdman and pairing him with up-and-comer Chris Clemons situationally. Another exciting element of the defense is the versatility of DE Andre Carter and SS Adam Archuleta. Carter, penciled in as a starter at end, played as a rush ’backer in the 49ers’ 3-4 defense last season, and Williams is reportedly tossing around the idea of using more “30” fronts where Carter can stand up. And Archuleta, who has 15 career sacks, can line up in a variety of roles: like a strong-side ’backer playing the flats in cover-1 (man free) or cover-3 (three-deep zone) defenses, playing over tight ends in many alignments or blitzing the passer.

Whispers


Redskins LB Marcus Washington said he plans to step up into more of a vocal role now that LaVar Arrington has moved on. Washington already has earned his teammates’ approval and is a favorite of the coaching staff, so his leadership should be well-received.

* http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/default.htm?mode=nfceast

Hr fan
04-05-2006, 02:47 PM
Here is another article about our FA signings and our expected draft day moves. It also includes info about the other teams in the NFC.

Scroll down the page to get to our info!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5429734

I love the observation on Arrington being one of the best defenders statistically against the run. Maybe this is how the Eagles played him, showing run but passing, like on a sweep. But you need a reliable passer who is a genuine running threat. I think Randall El fits that description.