Sounds like Jimoh has been reading the forums

[PA Skins Girl]

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=16215

Talks about taking criticism and using it constructively. For an undrafted FA, I think Jimoh is pulling his weight. I'd like to see the bashing back off.

[DCGreys]

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=16215

Talks about taking criticism and using it constructively. For an undrafted FA, I think Jimoh is pulling his weight. I'd like to see the bashing back off.
I agree completely. I thought he improved tremedously during the season and he is an excellent ST player.

[The Skinsinator]

He's very good on special teams and has improved his dback play, but I still don't want him out there unless we need to. No question about his heart and desire. Those are definitely there. Glad he is happy to be a Skin and look forward to seeing him next season.

[CowboyKilla]

Jimoh is a survivor and has come a long way.
I for one hope he continues to contribute.

[redskin_rich]

Isn't his wife a member here?

[Red Bear]

http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=715078&postcount=32

Like i said in that thread earlier, i think Jimoh should be our nickleback this year. I think he will only get better with the more experience he gains on the field with the defense. He knows the defense more than anyone we can bring in via the draft or FA.

[828791Redskins]

I thought he really improved last year. I don't know if I want him as our third cb until he's proven himself a little more.

[skinfanatic]

hes fine on special teams.
i think he gets burned a lot when hes in on cb.

[redskin_rich]

http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=715078&postcount=32

Like i said in that thread earlier, i think Jimoh should be our nickleback this year. I think he will only get better with the more experience he gains on the field with the defense. He knows the defense more than anyone we can bring in via the draft or FA.
I've warmed to Jimoh but I do not think he should be a nickle. He has speed and is a good tackler but he does not have good cover instincts. He is a great player for special teams and fine as the 4th or Dime corner. Personally, I think he is more suited as a backup at Safety but then again, GW mixes and matches his DB's so it really doesn't matter the title, as long as Ade is no more than the 4th in coverage.

[Red Bear]

I've warmed to Jimoh but I do not think he should be a nickle. He has speed and is a good tackler but he does not have good cover instincts. He is a great player for special teams and fine as the 4th or Dime corner. Personally, I think he is more suited as a backup at Safety but then again, GW mixes and matches his DB's so it really doesn't matter the title, as long as Ade is no more than the 4th in coverage.

Ade did well last season when forced into duty. i didnt see him get burned really bad, even when he was the #1 corner with Christian as the #2 due to injuries. The only time Jimoh got burned that i can recall was on a pass that practically no one could have defended to Ashley Lelei in the Denver game. And this team is known for guys stepping up since Gibb's return. I am confident our coaches will have our players prepared if someone goes down. I think Jimoh has proved he deserves a chance to be the nickle atleast. Plus he has all the motivation to play well, he is gonna want a contract from someone after this season, whether its with us or another team.

[whitskins]

Jimoh is a great special teamer and a very serviceable 4th cornerback. He plays his role and does it well. He is earning a lot more respect from the fanbase and he deserves it. I hope he continues to improve so that his remaining critics will also come around on the guy.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Although I've been critical of Jimohs corner play from time to time, he has improved and I've always valued his special teams contributions. I am glad we are trying to retain him but with or without Jimoh we still need more depth in the secondary.

[GoDannyBoy]

One of Larry Micheal first interviews was Jimoh last year. He basically mugged him on his way to his car.

I really liked Jimoh. He seems like a great guy and then he picked up his play last year. What more could you want from an undrafted rookie free agent out of Utah State?

Way to go Jimoh, have a great camp and an even better contract year!

[HollywoodKolt]

I've never been a big fan of Jimoh, but he's definitally started to impress me with his play on special teams. I dont' know how happy I'd be going into the regular season with him as our nickel corner, but if Gregg Williams thinks he's the best man for the job he knows better than me.

[rskinsfan10]

Isn't his wife a member here?Yes she is. She hasn't posted in awhile though.

I for one count myself as one of his defenders here. I simply don't think that he is as bad as some seem to make him out to be.

[LATrueRedskin]

Jimoh plays a very big role here on this team, and I don't really understand the constant bashing of him either. He's a very good special teams player and is a solid corner when we need him most. He had a tough time for a couple games during Gibbs: Act II, Part 1, but has stepped it up since.

[whistleandthumb]

Jimoh has been burned a few times on some big plays, but he ALWAYS is making plays on Special Teams, and I feel more comfortable with him in there than I would have Walt Harris.

[MWballer]

I started giving Jimoh his due last year but Jimoh's grown as a player and has elevated himself from being strictly a ST to possibly being our nickel or dime CB this year.

[Red Bear]

it would be nice if Jimoh could see some of the support he is starting to gather in the fanbase here, and to know that the fans appreciate his contributions to the team. this is Jimohs 4th season coming up and he has progressed each year which is a big positive in my opinion. he deserves to get more time in the defensive backfield, i think he has earned it. so im glad he is atleast getting his chance to compete for the 3rd CB spot. and competition generally makes everyone that much better and work that much harder to improve their game. lets not forget, he is also a hard hitter and sound tackler, he creamed jake plummer on that tuck rule play last year in Denver, as well as a few other guys. LOL i sound like i'm enamored with Jimoh. im not enamored, but i hope he does well this season and earns more playing time.

[InsomniaKiller]

I still remember that ridiculous hit he put on that Bronco in week 5. I think it was Mike Anderson but I won't say that for certain. Sheesh, that was absurd.

As stated, he's stepped it up recently so no need for me to repeat all that. I just agree w/ most of you guys.

[smoak]

Yes she is. She hasn't posted in awhile though.

I for one count myself as one of his defenders here. I simply don't think that he is as bad as some seem to make him out to be.

Yeah, people are so rough on him b/c of how poorly he played in George Edwards defense... But the whole D played poorly thay year. I might have been our worst ranked defense since Nolan.

[Keino]

Well Smoak, getting toasted each and everytime he came in the game at CB didn't help.

As one of Jimoh's biggest detractors, I have to give him his due in terms of improvement, but he still makes me cringe when he's put into the situation of having to play CB. He is just too tentative in coverage.

I thought we had some guys on our roster that were much better cover guys, but probably didn't contribute as substantially on Teams and I suspect thats why he has beat them out. Hopefully Jimoh continues to gain confidence, as that is about 40% of coverage IMO.

[silverspring]

Jimoh made real improvements in coverage. By the end of the season i was feeling more comfortable with him in then harris. He deserves some credit for turning that corner

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

I have seen progress from him in the last 2 years. His play on special teams also helps him merit a roster spot. I feel comfortable with him as a dime corner.

It's amazing that when I first joined this board a little over a year ago most every poster wanted him gone. Now most everyone wants him to make the team. That's a tribute to his work ethic and attitude.

[akhhorus]

Jimoh is a great Special teamer and is improving as a CB. He's a keeper for this team.


As for players reading this forum, do you think Ramsey has been reading this board.....


(quietly being yellled in some Northern Virginia house....)

Come back Paintedbird!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!

[bgforever]

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=16215

Talks about taking criticism and using it constructively. For an undrafted FA, I think Jimoh is pulling his weight. I'd like to see the bashing back off.


Read my mind. Performance is the key to keeping Rogers on the bench, and for a 3rd year player, when given chances, you were just below or at average, if not horrendous. As a teamer, you are fine, no doubt, but as far as I am concerned, Morton's nipping at your heals and coach is still looking, so yeah, you would go crazy hearing the truth and you're the only one not seeing it.

[Red Bear]

Jimoh is a great Special teamer and is improving as a CB. He's a keeper for this team.


As for players reading this forum, do you think Ramsey has been reading this board.....


(quietly being yellled in some Northern Virginia house....)

Ramsey moved out of his Northern Virginia house in Lovettsville/Purcellville. A good friend of mine was one of Ramseys neighbors.

[bgforever]

I've warmed to Jimoh but I do not think he should be a nickle. He has speed and is a good tackler but he does not have good cover instincts. He is a great player for special teams and fine as the 4th or Dime corner. Personally, I think he is more suited as a backup at Safety but then again, GW mixes and matches his DB's so it really doesn't matter the title, as long as Ade is no more than the 4th in coverage.


Thank you. Of course he should want to get better, of course he will improve simply being around another year. How much improvement to satisfy the coaches, well that's another story. I do give him credit that as a FOOTBALL player, that he is and NO ONE can take that away from him, but as a "starting" nickle, well this will be his toughest challenge coming up this season and I will stick with the sleeper being Morton. I have no BEEF with him or any family member as a member of this board, but like all the 1,000's of opinions and observations, I offer mine, like it or not. I don't believe at this point he's the man at nickle corner.

[shally]

Jimoh plays a very big role here on this team, and I don't really understand the constant bashing of him either. He's a very good special teams player and is a solid corner when we need him most. He had a tough time for a couple games during Gibbs: Act II, Part 1, but has stepped it up since.

wait a sec... he has really transformed himself from the way he looked when he first came up.
he is physical on coverage and plays tremendous special teams. he made the seattle returner (williams) life miserable inthe playoff game all by himself.

he has gotten better every year, but he still has to prove he can handle coverage onthe deep ball

[robotfire]

hes fine on special teams.
i think he gets burned a lot when hes in on cb.That actually wasn't true last year. As the year went on, he barely ever got burned. He held his own with Walt Harris, and played better than Harris if you ask me.

Clint

[The Skinsinator]

As for players reading this forum, do you think Ramsey has been reading this board.....

(quietly being yellled in some Northern Virginia house....)LMAO, that's probably not too far from reality. There's only so much you can hunt and spend time with the old lady before you get a bit bored and have to get on hr. I do wonder deep down if he's happy about not being a skin. One would have to believe he has a very bittersweet feeling about us. I really hope the kid does well in New York.

[shally]

That actually wasn't true last year. As the year went on, he barely ever got burned. He held his own with Walt Harris, and played better than Harris if you ask me.

Clint

i think he is really good on plays in front of him. he made the play that taylor made to stop arrington possible by coming up onthe play before and dropping fitzgerald for a loss on a wide receiver screen... those 2 plays won the cards game for us...

where he has always been vulnerable is onthe deep ball. not having safety help over the top is rolling the dice. still, he is getting better at it than his first couple of years..

[X-Factor13]

I really like ade jimoh and i hope that he keeps improving so i have reason to root for him more!

[santanadasavior]

He was a beast on special teams and that shows me that hard work is no stranger to him. His day will come when he becomes an asset at CB for us. With our defense right now, I think that we could try him at nickel and afford to take some risks.

[bgforever]

i think he is really good on plays in front of him. he made the play that taylor made to stop arrington possible by coming up onthe play before and dropping fitzgerald for a loss on a wide receiver screen... those 2 plays won the cards game for us...

where he has always been vulnerable is onthe deep ball. not having safety help over the top is rolling the dice. still, he is getting better at it than his first couple of years..


That's why I get more enjoyment from a player who surprises me. If he can hold off whoever else we get and Morton, then by all means he should be at nickel - no brainer, but I think you summed it up like someone else did, that if he can jumpstart that part of his game, he may even soar higher than anyone could have imagined. I just think he's in a make or break THIS year, not late last year. That was a wave, and many weren't expecting us to really run off that 6 stringer.

This year, they will be gunning for us and putting their money on the #3 option and TE's to bail them out, cause they pretty much know Rogers will be better and have the book on Springs, Taylor, Lou, Archuletta being very capable.

The teams will aim speed and misdirection at the #3 Corner or should I say Nickel. Harris could recognize it, but he wasn't as responsive (time and injuries)

[redskin_rich]

Yes she is. She hasn't posted in awhile though.

I for one count myself as one of his defenders here. I simply don't think that he is as bad as some seem to make him out to be.
I can understand why she wouldn't post, with all the negativity that has been spewed about Ade.

I have been very critical of Jimoh in the past but I definitely have seen the improvement and why the coaches have kept him around. I think he is a good part of this team but I still think, as far as coverage goes, he can only be effective as the dime and is best playing in zone coverage. Man coverage is instinctive, you either have it or you don't and I don't believe Ade has it. There are starting CB's in this league that don't have it, so it doesn't mean he can't be an effective player. I'm very impressed with his work ethic and there is no doubt that he is a punishing tackler.
Bottom line, I'm glad he is a Redskin.

[Brokenstriker]

I agree completely. I thought he improved tremedously during the season and he is an excellent ST player.

I have to agree. I was very tough on him before last season. I hadn't noticed much special on special teams, and his CB play was ... well it wasn't all that great. But his hard work and top flight performance on special teams, and improved play at CB really impressed me. I always liked his style (no nonsense, obvious 100% on the field, hard hitter), I just had nightmares about his '04 season CB play.

Ade - keep it up and I'll buy your jersey (thanks for the great play in '05!)

[skins111111]

he has been improving steadily, is he ready?....at least he will get to compete for the Nickle spot so the balls in his hands.

[PA Skins Girl]

In Jimoh's rookie season (under Spurrier), he got burned for TDs twice in the same game (cant remember who we were playing). As we say at work, it takes 10 "at-a-boys" to negate 1 "oh-shit".

[bgforever]

In Jimoh's rookie season (under Spurrier), he got burned for TDs twice in the same game (cant remember who we were playing). As we say at work, it takes 10 "at-a-boys" to negate 1 "oh-shit".


Haven't heard that analogy for a while, old school

[colkurtz]

I've been critical of Jimoh, but he has become a beast on the ST and has made steady improvement at nickle. He gets his chance this season to solidify his position on the defense. I think he will be given a real chance to succeed. If not, there will be a new rookie or two at that position to push and challenge him.

[shally]

That's why I get more enjoyment from a player who surprises me. If he can hold off whoever else we get and Morton, then by all means he should be at nickel - no brainer, but I think you summed it up like someone else did, that if he can jumpstart that part of his game, he may even soar higher than anyone could have imagined. I just think he's in a make or break THIS year, not late last year. That was a wave, and many weren't expecting us to really run off that 6 stringer.

This year, they will be gunning for us and putting their money on the #3 option and TE's to bail them out, cause they pretty much know Rogers will be better and have the book on Springs, Taylor, Lou, Archuletta being very capable.

The teams will aim speed and misdirection at the #3 Corner or should I say Nickel. Harris could recognize it, but he wasn't as responsive (time and injuries)

you are totally correct.. but if williams knows the offense has to throw on the number 3 corner then he will roll the safeties towards jimoh, or disguise the coverage and bait the qb into throwing into it... i think it is going to be a real treat to watch the full impact of williams defensive genius this year.
top 3, possibly top overall defense is possible..

[whitskins]

I just started playing a playoff game against Seattle in Madden 06 and I used Jimoh on punt coverage to lay a massive Hit Stick on Peter Warrick just as he caught the ball, resulting in a fumble that was returned for a touchdown.

Just thought everyone should know.

[PyroGenic]

i think jimoh would be a decent safety, he can hit but his coverage skills leave something to be desired. With that I'v definitely warmed up to him and view him as something the team built from the ground up. GO JIMOH!

[KMDeMuth]

That actually wasn't true last year. As the year went on, he barely ever got burned. He held his own with Walt Harris, and played better than Harris if you ask me.

Clint
"barely ever" because he wasnt on the field enough on defense. You know a guy isnt set to be a 1-2-3 corner when you have safeties coming in to play during situations with injuries to the starters. (good we had/have some that play cb also) Simply put, Jimoh isnt a starter or much of anything besides an emergency backup at 4th as a CB.

He 'has' improved a lot since he has been here, but not enough to be behind springs and rogers. He is a good special teamer though, I will give him credit where credit is due. But he is in no way a good cover corner and thats what GW's needs. Anyone notice that when Jimoh goes in we usually blitz (more so then usual), Jimoh on the field =blitz? Anyone else think that has more to do with GW's trying to force the offense to make quick decisions, less chance of a deep ball. Less chance of 'seperation' on the outside?

Jimoh is a good ST-er, servicable 4th cb and "ok" for emergency situations. He can not cover deep and will never start. I have nothing personal against the guy, I like seeing him on the field in a redskins uniform....on ST! I just hope we get a servicable guy behind rogers on the depth chart.

Once again, maybe he is a slow learner, maybe he is slow to adjust. Maybe i am overly understimating him as a cb. But if he comes out and plays like a starter or atleast capable enough to not make the big mistake he is prone to make. I will glady quit with the criticism and give him the whole "you were right and i was wrong" speech. Until then, he is a good ST-er and a 4th cb. :rolleyes:

I agree mostly with Keino...

[vabeach_skinsfan]

If we sign another CB, hopefully that will motivate him even more and he'll keep progressing into the player we need him to be.

[Dolla Bill]

I know I have bashed him in the past, especially when he gets burned, but he has come a long way. I do remember the awesome stick he had on Fitzgerald last year on the 3rd and short during the 'zona game. He is a ST ace, but he can be a liability in pass defense. He has improved dramatically since GW has come here, and I think with Jerry Grey he could even get better. I'm glad he signed the tender and he will be a skin this season.

[Axegrinder]

We can't ask for anything more than continous improvement.
Kudos to Ade,in this regard.:beer:

[Dept_of_Defense]

We can't ask for anything more than continous improvement.
Kudos to Ade,in this regard.:beer:
I take back all those bad things I've said about Ade. He's proved his worth as a special teams player, but I'm still anxious to see how much improvement he's made @ cornerback.

[S.Taylor36]

Redskins | Jimoh signs tender
Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:13:23 -0800

Gary Fitzgerald, of Redskins.com, reports Washington Redskins CB Ade Jimoh has signed a one-year tender from the team. Financial terms of the contract were not disclosed

[chrisbcbu]

Jimoh needs to keep stepping up. He improved last season and i hope he will continue to improve!

Im glad he signed his tender.

[HanburgerBum]

Like most Redskins fans, I was horrified at Jimoh's pass coverage his rookie year. To my great shock, he made the team. And, then, he surprised me again when he made the roster in his 2nd season.

I think Jimoh is the best example that Joe Gibbs means it when he says that special teams are a very important consideration when it comes down to which backup players make the roster.

To his credit, Jimoh has made significant strides as a CB in 2005. While I don't think he will ever be a great cover corner, I no longer shudder when he comes into a game. A NFL team can't have stars everywhere. There are going to be the Jimohs of the world on every roster, and Ade is a very good fit for Washington.

[redwolf1218]

In Jimoh's rookie season (under Spurrier), he got burned for TDs twice in the same game (cant remember who we were playing). As we say at work, it takes 10 "at-a-boys" to negate 1 "oh-shit".
i think this explains how i feel too. he's a great guy and i have grown to like him, but lots of guys can play special teams. right now we need a 3rd corner. when Jimoh comes in the game, they go right at him for a reason, and he's given up too many TD's for me. he should only have to cover the other team's 3rd receiver, so for us, that would be Patten, or Randle El. i doubt he could cover them. so what happens if he has to start? he would be toast. if we only keep 4 corners on the roster, chances are he will be playing a lot.

check this out, it is scary:

SKIN Right Corner HGT WGT Speed
22 ROGERS Carlos - 6- 0.3 196 4.44
SKIN Left Corner HGT WGT Speed
24 SPRINGS Shawn 5-11.0 188 4.47
23 JIMOH Ade 6- 0.0 195 4.48
39 WILLIAMS Aric 5-11.3 187 4.53
31 BETHEA James 6- 0.0 180 4.54

[redskin_rich]

i think this explains how i feel too. he's a great guy and i have grown to like him, but lots of guys can play special teams. right now we need a 3rd corner. when Jimoh comes in the game, they go right at him for a reason, and he's given up too many TD's for me. he should only have to cover the other team's 3rd receiver, so for us, that would be Patten, or Randle El. i doubt he could cover them. so what happens if he has to start? he would be toast. if we only keep 4 corners on the roster, chances are he will be playing a lot.

check this out, it is scary:

SKIN Right Corner HGT WGT Speed
22 ROGERS Carlos - 6- 0.3 196 4.44
SKIN Left Corner HGT WGT Speed
24 SPRINGS Shawn 5-11.0 188 4.47
23 JIMOH Ade 6- 0.0 195 4.48
39 WILLIAMS Aric 5-11.3 187 4.53
31 BETHEA James 6- 0.0 180 4.54

The list is smaller than that now, Bethea(whoever he is) got released last week.

[redwolf1218]

The list is smaller than that now, Bethea(whoever he is) got released last week.
so Jimoh is even more dangerously close to starting. i have no idea how durable Rogers is, and obviously i hope his foot is okay. Springs seems to have nagging things like hamstrings, maybe because he plays so physical. Williams has said he wants physical corners, so injuries will probably go along with that philosophy. i love Springs and Rogers, but i just want to make sure there's quality depth behind them, and i'm not sure Jimoh can cover starters in the NFL. the coaches do seem to love him, and Danny Smith seems to have some input on the bubble guys for their special teams duties.

[bgforever]

The list is smaller than that now, Bethea(whoever he is) got released last week.


Ok, there's the "released" CB

[Slobberknocker]

SKIN Right Corner HGT WGT Speed
22 ROGERS Carlos - 6- 0.3 196 4.44
SKIN Left Corner HGT WGT Speed
24 SPRINGS Shawn 5-11.0 188 4.47
23 JIMOH Ade 6- 0.0 195 4.48
39 WILLIAMS Aric 5-11.3 187 4.53
31 BETHEA James 6- 0.0 180 4.54

What, no Christian Morton and Dimitri Patterson???

[Slobberknocker]

http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virginia/dp-fbn--redskins-jimoh0331mar31,0,5458127.story?coll=dp-headlines-virginia

Redskins re-sign CB Jimoh
By the Associated Press
March 31, 2006
ASHBURN, Va. -- The Washington Redskins re-signed restricted free-agent cornerback Ade Jimoh on Friday.

Jimoh has played three seasons with the Redskins, mainly on special teams. He had 18 tackles last season.

Undrafted out of Utah State, Jimoh is currently the No. 3 cornerback on the roster--behind starters Shawn Springs and Carlos Rogers--following the release of Walt Harris for salary cap reasons. However, the Redskins have been looking to sign a veteran nickel back during free agency.

[thecheat48]

Looks like the Skins may have signed Wright from the Jaguars - I imagine he would be ahead of Jimoh on the depth chart.

[bgforever]

What, no Christian Morton and Dimitri Patterson???


yeah, dat's right, where's my boy Morton at?????/ Patterson's still around huh?
I will go check and see those times :)

[bgforever]

Morton's time is 4.42

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2004/draft/players/43356.html

I know Patterson's time is in the 4.40's also, plus he got a pick off of Drew Bledsoe, in the second game against Dallas and took it back 20yds, in his only play.

[redwolf1218]

What, no Christian Morton and Dimitri Patterson???
Dimitri is listed as a safety:

SKIN Free Safety HGT WGT Speed
21 TAYLOR Sean 6- 2.0 231 4.51
PRIOLEAU Pierson 5- 9.0 191 4.49
0 BURNS Corey 6- 0.3 216 4.58
0 PATTERSON Dimitri 6- 0.0 185 4.45
SKIN Strong Safety HGT WGT Speed
31 ARCHULETA Adam 5-11.0 211 4.42

http://www.couchscout.com/skin.htm

[IowaSkinsFan]

Isn't his wife a member here?

That's a big 10-4.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Morton's time is 4.42

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2004/draft/players/43356.html

I know Patterson's time is in the 4.40's also, plus he got a pick off of Drew Bledsoe, in the second game against Dallas and took it back 20yds, in his only play.

Morton went to Illinois with Brandon Lloyd, although I don't think they were not together all 4 years there. I don't know if Lloyd is a great route runner or not, but he does have speed and I remember seeing preseason Illini shows showing Morton running step for step with Lloyd.