View Full Version : Pastabelly at it again
SimplyZ
04-15-2006, 07:37 PM
I really don't understand why he feels it necessary to do this every time he writes an article :
Steelers wide receiver: The defending Super Bowl champions are the organization equivalent of Alfred E. "What, we worry?" Newman. When veteran wide receiver Antwaan Randle El bolted to Washington for the inflated contract Redskins owner Daniel Snyder awarded him, the Steelers didn't yawn, but they didn't overreact either. Because they never do. That said, Pittsburgh coaches are looking for an outside receiver with long speed, someone who will allow them to move Super Bowl MVP Hines Ward into the slot more often in 2006, and they'll almost certainly use the draft on such a player.
LadyNRedskinsfan
04-15-2006, 07:51 PM
i hate the guy as much as you do, but i dont see an issue with that statement. maybe its just me..? :whoknows:
btw: got a link?
DoGood
04-15-2006, 08:04 PM
You guys might be contributing to the anti-Redskins sentiments throughout the media. Is it right? No. But you would be wise to just ignore it.
Just sit back and let the idiot's writing speak for itself.
Farbod
04-15-2006, 08:10 PM
There is no one I hate more than Pastabelly. I swear he will write an article as broadly as possible so he can throw in a dispariging remark about the skins. He is such a bias piece of crap that I hope I run into him some day.... :rpunch:
whitskins
04-15-2006, 08:22 PM
I love the shots that PFT is taking at Pastabelly lately, basically calling him out for offering to do puff pieces in exchange for inside information. It confirms what most of us have suspected for quite some time and really explains the unreasonable venom he has for the Skins.
I hope the recent blasts on PFT have embarrassed him mightily.
DoGood
04-15-2006, 08:59 PM
I love the shots that PFT is taking at Pastabelly lately, basically calling him out for offering to do puff pieces in exchange for inside information. It confirms what most of us have suspected for quite some time and really explains the unreasonable venom he has for the Skins.
I hope the recent blasts on PFT have embarrassed him mightily.
Is that true? If so he should be even more embarassed that he already should be.:)
What happened to integrity?
shally
04-15-2006, 09:24 PM
he is so predictable that his columns lack any bite now... can't wait to see what he spews when the skins win another superbowl
Syllable
04-16-2006, 12:58 AM
Lol.. I was gonna post this also because the article looked odd. He made no other glaring insults to any other party or persong, but he went out and got danny. What a Fathead. Btw I love his picture, Either the pasta is too stale or he is about to retire, his picture looks like an old man trying to pose for a camera that cant fit his fat head.
bgforever
04-16-2006, 05:52 AM
Here's what Pastabelli DOESN'T tell you. He doesn't tell you that Randle El's value to a team can't be measured in just "receiving". Pittsburgh knows full well that for a QB at Fluties height, actually a little taller, Randle El throws better than a lot of backups in the NFL! That's just in QBing alone.
If Randle El had signed in Indianapolis, Polian would be declared GOD, Dungy would be Jesus, and the entire Colt's organizatoin, media hypers and most fans, would declaring Indianapolis is officially heaven!
Why you ask? One of the SB Heroes, a student from Indiana University, that puts Quarterbacking, overall play on the map there, with a NCAA Divsion "1",
record setting tenure - 6,000 yards passing, plus 3,000+ rushing, plus he has RECEIVING yards, PR yards, KOR yards! I believe he also played relief Corner as well, have to confirm it.
Since its the Redskins, it is played down. I like the NEGATIVE spins - I love them. As Santana Moss was saying - IT's a MOTIVATOR.
I am sure Randle El knows all about it, just like the rest of the Redskins organization. Remember how we stormed the last 6 games last season and tongues went in cheeck, while others puckered up their lips for rear end action?
Digger
04-16-2006, 06:02 AM
I'm not bothered by negative Skins' press unless I happen to agree with it.
Swipes like this at Dan Snyder amuse me since Danny only signs the checks. Lenny obviously doesn't have the courage to write that, in his opinion, Joe Gibbs paid too much for A. Randle El.
If Danny had vetoed the deal, Lenny would be writing about his interference with the personnel decisions of a HOF head coach.
Redskinfan28
04-16-2006, 07:27 AM
I agree that ARE's contract is inflated. I'm not saying he won't contribute next year, but he is overpaid.
Biggie
04-16-2006, 07:52 AM
I agree that ARE's contract is inflated. I'm not saying he won't contribute next year, but he is overpaid.
No, he's not overpaid. He's making 1.585 million this year against the cap. He'll be overpaid three seasons from now, when it jumps up to 4.320.
GoDannyBoy
04-16-2006, 07:59 AM
No, he's not overpaid. He's making 1.585 million this year against the cap. He'll be overpaid three seasons from now, when it jumps up to 4.320.
Hopefully by then he will have proved all the naysayers wrong and be worth 4 million.
PA Skins Girl
04-16-2006, 08:30 AM
Everyone thinks we overpaid for ARE, not just Pastabelly.
Maybe we did but why does that bother people so much?
I mean we had a plan and we executed it perfectly. We left other teams looking around dumbfounded after the first 3 days of free agency. Now you have teams with tons of cap space but no players to choose from. We may have overpaid, but we have a heck of a team, our "core guys" are locked up for several years, and we are under the cap. What is the measurement of "overpayment"?
Syllable
04-16-2006, 08:40 AM
Everyone thinks we overpaid for ARE, not just Pastabelly.
Maybe we did but why does that bother people so much?
I mean we had a plan and we executed it perfectly. We left other teams looking around dumbfounded after the first 3 days of free agency. Now you have teams with tons of cap space but no players to choose from. We may have overpaid, but we have a heck of a team, our "core guys" are locked up for several years, and we are under the cap. What is the measurement of "overpayment"?
When your team cant spend that much money, you get jelious. Who is to tell Danny where to spend his money, or critisize him for signing checks that a HOF coach asked him too. Hey Len Buffet is open GL HF.
danny's stogie
04-16-2006, 09:50 AM
Hopefully by then he will have proved all the naysayers wrong and be worth 4 million.
Three years from now the cap will be in the 130 million range and signing a player like Randle El for only 4 million a year would be considered highway robbery -- and yes, Danny Boy will be considered the bandit.
shally
04-16-2006, 10:05 AM
Three years from now the cap will be in the 130 million range and signing a player like Randle El for only 4 million a year would be considered highway robbery -- and yes, Danny Boy will be considered the bandit.
snyder will never get credit for correctly predicting the path of the cap and adapting his strategy to that prediction.. at best he will get slammed for using it to his advantage, while "poor" ralph wilson will be ticketed for the hall of fame... jock sniffers, all of them, pastabelly included
skins111111
04-16-2006, 11:56 AM
he'll just be eating more crow:)....as if he hasn't eatin enough last year
FanFromArizona
04-16-2006, 02:40 PM
No, he's not overpaid. He's making 1.585 million this year against the cap. He'll be overpaid three seasons from now, when it jumps up to 4.320.
There are a few things wrong with Pastabelly's statements:
1. Three seasons from now, 4.32 Milion is not worth 4.32 million today. Everyone knows that the present value of a future number is not worth the present value of that number. Simple economics, it is GREAT cap planning.
As the years get more and more, players will be able to demand more money because of the nature of non-guaranteed contracts. I would rather have 1 contract for 4 years than 4 1 year contracts, because you will pay more in the long run with the latter.
Do we know how to manage the cap? Yes, I think the way we negotiate on contracts is that we project a cap number, develop a spreadsheet that tracks each players cap hit, and we lock ourselves to come in around 95-98%of that cap number.
The intangibles of locking down a potential star, combined with the fact that a non-performing star can be released, this salary can almost be considered INSURANCE. You cannot place a VALUE on consistency. It is the DARWIN survival of the fittest at best: the best stick around, and the weak are discarded. If he is not worth the money, he will be released.
2. Incentives to come need to be made to get playmakers. All else being equal, money is money. If we offered equal money to ARE, he would now probably be wearing a Bears uniform. In the real world, do people quit a job to go to a different unknown job or go to a known commodity? They usually stick with the known and liked position, it was going to take something extra to make it happen and that is what happened: a little sweetener.
FanFromArizona
04-16-2006, 02:42 PM
he'll just be eating more crow:)....as if he hasn't eatin enough last year
he's suffering from cold turkey withdrawals and made a change to eating crow. His appetite could not hold out any longer, so the hungry child is acting up again.
The Skinsinator
04-16-2006, 03:01 PM
Of all the contracts we did recently, Randle El's and Archuleta's are the ones that I question the numbers a bit. Randle El is a great talent and the contract is sizeable. However you can't put a monetary value on his intangible, winning style, and overall versatility. He will help out this organization alot.
shally
04-16-2006, 03:39 PM
Of all the contracts we did recently, Randle El's and Archuleta's are the ones that I question the numbers a bit. Randle El is a great talent and the contract is sizeable. However you can't put a monetary value on his intangible, winning style, and overall versatility. He will help out this organization alot.
a guy who makes plays that change the outcomes of games... that is the intangible that he brings.. plus he distorts defenses because they always have to account for him...
DCGreys
04-16-2006, 04:24 PM
please someone remind us why ANYONE here reads this guy's junk...it simply helps his career for us to read and react to anything he writes.
skinfan43
04-16-2006, 05:36 PM
Pasta is a JOKE.
We have the best Capologist in the game today, Eric Schaeffer is his name, I believe. Gibbs/GW/Vinny go to him with exactly who they want - He draws up these intricate, clever deals that coincide PERFECTLY with the new CBA - and Snyder HAPPILY writes the checks, knowing we all LOVE the fact that it all comes down to GIBBS running the show and making our team dominate once again, so we shell out tens of MILLIONS a year right back to Snyder and the organization - works perfectly, and all the other teams and media hate us for it...
TOUGH SH*T.
HAIL.
;)
Dept_of_Defense
04-16-2006, 10:40 PM
I really don't understand why he feels it necessary to do this every time he writes an article :
That was actually one of the more upbeat articles about us. He's criticized us much, much worse. This doesn't really bother me. Don't get me wrong, I still hate the guy....
X-Factor13
04-16-2006, 10:48 PM
honestly, it's impossible to understand this grudge he constantly holds against us. it's ridiculous. Why he can't admit that we got better this season?
vabeach_skinsfan
04-17-2006, 12:00 PM
Pastabelly is just reaching. He has nothing else bad to say about the orginization at the moment, so he aim's his comments towards Snyder. This dude is a joke anyways, I wonder if they pay him in burgers??
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"get in mah belly"
Spence
04-17-2006, 12:05 PM
That statement doesn't bother me. Randle-El's contract is "inflated," at least, by the standards of production. When you spend money in free agency, you usually overpay. That's the nature of it. Sometimes it is worth it to overpay and sometimes it is not. Let's hope Randle-El is worth it.
akhhorus
04-17-2006, 12:26 PM
What makes me laugh is that Don Banks called Randle El his 2nd best free agent available(behind Brees) and that any team who got him was getting a steal(something like that). That is, until the Skins signed him and then ARE was overrated. Randle El got a big contract on the surface, but if he's a bust, then he'll be gone without much of a cap penalty.
OCSkinzFan
04-17-2006, 12:33 PM
I love the shots that PFT is taking at Pastabelly lately, basically calling him out for offering to do puff pieces in exchange for inside information. It confirms what most of us have suspected for quite some time and really explains the unreasonable venom he has for the Skins.
I hope the recent blasts on PFT have embarrassed him mightily.
Link?
shally
04-17-2006, 12:36 PM
anyone who is waiting for fair coverage of the skins by king, dr z, banks, or pasta is just kidding themselves... clayton has at least been neutral most of this off season.. but the gang of 4 is consistent in their anti redskin bias
akhhorus
04-17-2006, 12:40 PM
Link?
Its on the bottom of the rumor mill page right now, second to last story.
whistleandthumb
04-17-2006, 12:51 PM
Fatsquerelli is the only one writing about how ARE leaving is no big deal to the Steelers. Everyone else who actually knows something about the game of football recognizes what a HUGE loss this is for them, and a TREMENDOUS gain for us.
OCSkinzFan
04-17-2006, 01:05 PM
Its on the bottom of the rumor mill page right now, second to last story.
Thanks.
OCSkinzFan
04-17-2006, 02:25 PM
Here's the article (edited) for people slightly lazier than I am.
WAS LEN'S LENDALE PIECE PAYBACK FOR SEYMOUR STORY?
A league source who was as initially confused as we were about the decision of ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli to help reverse the Enron-esque decline of LenDale White's draft stock has managed to connect the dots on this one.
White is represented by Eugene Parker. Parker also represents Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour. Pasquarelli broke the story this week regarding the long-term extension reached between the Pats and Seymour.
So the White story was either payback by Pasquarelli, or it was just an example of very good "source relations."
Although, on the surface, Pasquarelli's story includes reference to the criticisms of White in order to create the appearance of real balance, the overriding tone of the piece is positive....
...Meanwhile, Pasquarelli offers no commentary whatsoever regarding White's inexplicable decision to have a chiropractor diagnose his torn hamstring. At a minimum go to a medical doctor. Better still, an orthopedist. Even better, a guy like Dr. James Andrews or some other widely recognized leader in the field.
We're not surprised by any of this. It's Pasquarelli's modus operandi. Several agents have told us that Pasquarelli has either offered to "pump them up" in exchange for scoop, or that he has admitted to doing puff pieces for other agents in exchange for information.
What puzzles us is that he continues to get away with it.
We're not suggesting that ESPN should fire him. But we do believe that the editors in Bristol should no longer condone Pasquarelli's Machiavellian approach to journalism, and that he should be told to knock off the knee pad routine for the guys who makes his job far easier than it should be.
Syllable
04-17-2006, 02:26 PM
Hey Pasta, remember, when you sign 3+ high profile people and do NOT drop 3 high profile players your supposed to be praised for managing your team. Also when you get all the players you go after, remember again, you win not loose in free agency.
GWBlitzST
04-18-2006, 11:58 AM
The bottom line on all of our signings is that all the contracts will be restructured eventually anyway. It is pretty ridiculous that these "experts" haven't figured out that the Redskins' means of acquiring players is to put a big number on a contract and then renegotiate it later, like we've done for just about ALL of our players. Christ where's the SI article about how great the Redskins organization is about getting players to restructure? I'm sure they'd rather write about how Peyton restructured to keep Marvin, even though they lost Edge.
Keino
04-18-2006, 12:19 PM
Here's the article (edited) for people slightly lazier than I am.
Very intresting. It certainly makes absolute sense, and confirms the theory that he has a grudge against the Redskins, because his "Inside source" led him to write that the Skins were going to hire Jim Fassell to replace Spurrier, only to have egg on his face 2 days later when Gibbs was announced.
danny's stogie
04-18-2006, 12:27 PM
Very intresting. It certainly makes absolute sense, and confirms the theory that he has a grudge against the Redskins, because his "Inside source" led him to write that the Skins were going to hire Jim Fassell to replace Spurrier, only to have egg on his face 2 days later when Gibbs was announced.
Wilbon has hinted that that's what brought Lenny's grudge to new heights.
Keino
04-18-2006, 12:36 PM
Wilbon has hinted that that's what brought Lenny's grudge to new heights.
Which only confirms he has no journalistic integrity. I think perhaps we should all stop reading/linking to his stories.
danny's stogie
04-18-2006, 12:42 PM
Which only confirms he has no journalistic integrity. I think perhaps we should all stop reading/linking to his stories.
No, Len P doesn't have integrity, but he's an NFL beat writer, not a foreign correspondent. The four letter network cares not about integrity, they care about generating interest in their media outlets -- but of course this once again goes back to your point about not posting links.
AliBabba
04-18-2006, 12:51 PM
Which only confirms he has no journalistic integrity. I think perhaps we should all stop reading/linking to his stories.
Much easier said than done, it's like looking into the sun
We all know that we shouldn't do it, BUT ...
Keino
04-18-2006, 12:52 PM
Much easier said than done, it's like looking into the sun
We all know that we shouldn't do it, BUT ...
I have no problems not looking into the sun, because I know the consequences.
MoeRedskins
04-18-2006, 12:57 PM
Two things.
1. Pasta didn't need to take the obvious cheap shot. He could have just stopped at when ARE bolted for the Redskins. It was low and very unprofessional.
2. Who gives a ****
AliBabba
04-18-2006, 12:59 PM
I have no problems not looking into the sun, because I know the consequences.
I think I mixed metaphors :lol1:
OCSkinzFan
04-18-2006, 01:31 PM
Which only confirms he has no journalistic integrity. I think perhaps we should all stop reading/linking to his stories.
I agree 100%.
Stop feeding him by clicking on anything he does.
(I wont even call it writing)
guinness4health
04-19-2006, 01:37 PM
You know it surprises me sometimes how Pastabelly is able to knock the skins even in indirect ways... Now we all known that he looks for any opportunity to attack that redskins and the last thing that he would do is give credit to anyone wearing a redskins jersey but this one I found particularly humorous...
in a draft article written or updated today about DeAngelo Williams and his size (5'9, 212) he wrote the following....
[qoute]The league is being taken over by more compact tailbacks such as the New York Giants' Tiki Barber, Dallas' Julius Jones, Pittsburgh's Willie Parker and Atlanta's Warrick Dunn.[/quote]
now I understand mentioning Tiki, Dunn, even Parker (who had a good year).... but who in there right mind is still mentioning julius jones as a top back???.... the guy lost his job to a rookie taken in the 4th round, that wasn't even a starter on his college team!!...
under what circumstances should he ever be mentioned before portis?
just found it amusing that even when he can't find an excuse to talk dirt about the skins, he finds a way to diminish something about our organization.....
Classic pastabelly.
source (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2413614)
Dept_of_Defense
04-19-2006, 02:34 PM
Pasquerelli seriously looks just like Don Vitto:
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