Roster Predictions

[Biggie]

I know it may be early for a thread like this one, but based on what I've read and seen of our draft picks/undrafted free agents, I've put together what I think our roster will look like in 2006. Feel free to share your own thoughts... here goes:

3 QBs - Brunell, Campbell, Collins
4 RBs - Portis, Betts, Cartwright, Nemo
5 WRs - Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten, Thrash
5 TE/FBs - Cooley, Fauria, Johnson, Sellers, White
9 OL - Samuels, Dock, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, Pucillo, Walters, Molinaro, Lefotu/Later signing
8 DL - Griff, Salave'a, Carter, Wynn, Daniels, Evans, Boshetti/Montgomery, Killings
7 LBs - Washington, Marshall, Clemons, McIntosh, Campbell, Havner, McCune/Sykes
5 Cbs - Springs, Rogers, Wright, Jimoh, Patterson/Morton
4 S - Taylor, Archuleta, Prioleau, Doughty/Later signing
1 K - John Hall/someone else
1 P - Please, please, PLEASE someone else
1 LS - Ethan Albright
PS - Lefotu/other, Montgomery/other, Simon, Doughty/other, Buck Ortega, either Patterson or Morton, 2 other offensive linemen, possibly a kicker/punterI think that, depending on what kind of camp Lefotu, Montgomery, and Doughty have, they'll either make the practice squad or the active roster. If Montgomery makes the active roster, I'm pretty sure that neither Killings nor Boshetti are eligible for the PS and that one would have to be cut. For some reason, I doubt any of the draftees besides Golston will be cut. On the other hand, I think we keep Simon on the PS because of his injuries and call him up if we need help on special teams. Golston will probably be cut because of his tendency to get injured, Ortega will take a year to build himself up physically, and I think we'll stash a couple of other linemen there in case we need them. Either McCune or Sykes will be cut.

So, what are your predictions? This is just preliminary, and we could see how we did later.

[D-Ruck #8]

All those picks are exactly what I was thinking, but somehow I think McCune will find his way on the roster past Sykes.

[Biggie]

All those picks are exactly what I was thinking, but somehow I think McCune will find his way on the roster past Sykes.

I forgot about McCune, actually. I'll make the change.

[redwolf1218]

i am interested to see how Sykes can play. he has starting experience and he seems to be fast and athletic from what i have read about him, but that may have been before he was injured. i dont know the nature of his injury or the progress of his recovery. i think Kerry Campbell might be looking over his shoulder. he was good on special teams but there should be some fierce competition there this year.

[GoDannyBoy]

What about that running back from Canada. Jesse Lumsden looks great in those videos and I am lloking forward to watching him in preseason.

But who would you cut is the answer?

[OCSkinzFan]

4 RBs - Portis, Betts, Cartwright, Nemo
If you check the roster Sellers,Nemo, and White are listed at FB so your list is a little off.

If we Keep Sellers and one \Either White or Nemo is gone.

TE and FB are two different positions now. Cooley will do a lot of non TE stuff, but we now have a position called Full Back and Cooley is not one; he was never good at the FB type stuff anyway.

[OCSkinzFan]

What about that running back from Canada. Jesse Lumsden looks great in those videos and I am lloking forward to watching him in preseason.

But who would you cut is the answer?
I've got a drink bet on him that he makes the team!:)
Ask RedskinRich.

[skins111111]

What about that running back from Canada. Jesse Lumsden looks great in those videos and I am lloking forward to watching him in preseason.

But who would you cut is the answer?

nobody, Nemo is now a FB

[helimech24]

nobody, Nemo is now a FBThat is one big freakin' fullback. I think the Skins are hoping he becomes another Alstott.

[shally]

That is one big freakin' fullback. I think the Skins are hoping he becomes another Alstott.

nemo needs to prove he can hang onto the ball.. and that he has the vision to find a hole fromthe short set... and to prove he can catch passes inthe flat.. and, above all, to pick up blitzers...

[AUSTINTXREDSKIN]

You forgot about the Red Snapper

[PyroGenic]

You forgot about the Red Snapper

huh?

I like the list, I think some of the guys on the lower side of the depth chart on both lines might have a run for their money, but I'm probably just underestimating them.

[meloveskinslongtime]

you guys are forgetting our obvious star reciever in taylor jacobs

[shally]

you guys are forgetting our obvious star reciever in taylor jacobs

easy to forget..LOL

i think there is enough depth at other positions that the team carries only 5 wideouts... we might like one of the UFA's (i am thinking perhaps ortega or havner), or we might decide that having a 9th def lineman makes more sense...
i do not think the positional numbers are nearly set and for that reason i think that jacobs represents a luxury this team can no longer afford. he has runout of chances here IHMO

[Biggie]

You forgot about the Red Snapper

1 LS - Ethan Albright

About Lumsden, well, forgot about him too. :banghead: Regardless of whether or not Nemo is a fullback, we'd have to cut someone for him. But who?

[GolfFreak]

I think your list is pretty good for this time of year. I can't wait to see what some of these lesser known guys can do and see if they can't earn a spot on the active roster in training camp. I think your list is most right, but someone not on there now will make this team.

[helimech24]

About Lumsden, well, forgot about him too. :banghead: Regardless of whether or not Nemo is a fullback, we'd have to cut someone for him. But who?
Holdman, LOL.

[redwolf1218]

About Lumsden, well, forgot about him too. :banghead: Regardless of whether or not Nemo is a fullback, we'd have to cut someone for him. But who?
maybe Rock Cartwright.

[Hr fan]

All those picks are exactly what I was thinking, but somehow I think McCune will find his way on the roster past Sykes.

Agree. McCune will make on special teams ability.

[PennSkinsFan]

All those picks are exactly what I was thinking, but somehow I think McCune will find his way on the roster past Sykes.
Not much for me to differ with. Only two. I do think Buck Ortega spells the end of Robert Johnson. I also believe Golston beats out Killings.

[CNYSkinFan]

As pointed out we will not be keeping an h-back position. Whether Cooley still acts like it or not is another story. But roster wise we will have a FB and TE positions, no H-back. Here are my predictions:

3 QBs - Brunell, Campbell, Collins
3 RBs - Portis, Betts, Cartwright
2 FBs - Sellars, Nemo
5 WRs - Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten, Thrash
3 TEs - Cooley, Fauria, Johnson
9 OL - Samuels, Dock, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, Pucillo, Walters, Molinaro, Alston
9 DL - Griff, Salave'a, Carter, Wynn, Daniels, Evans, Montgomery, Killings, Clemons
8 LBs - Washington, Marshall, Clemons, McIntosh, Campbell, Holdman, Simon,
5 Cbs - Springs, Rogers, Wright, Jimoh, Morton
4 S - Taylor, Archuleta, Prioleau, Doughty
1 K - John Hall
1 P - Frost
1 LS - Ethan Albright
PS - Lefotu, Simon, Ortega, Patterson, Havner, Harvey, Golston, HawkinsNotable cuts from last year's team: McCune & Boschetti (EDIT: And I guess White since he was on IR)

I put in italics the names I think are in jeapordy of being cut if a guy comes out of nowhere.

[smoak]

My stab at it (new additions in bold):

3 QBs - Brunell, Campbell, Collins
3 RBs - Portis, Betts, Cartwright
5 FB/TE/HBs - Cooley, Sellars, Nemo, Fauria, <<Open Spot>>
5 WRs - Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten, Thrash
9 OL - Samuels, Dock, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, Pucillo, Walters, Molinaro, Lefotu
9 DL - Griff, Salave'a, Carter, Wynn, Daniels, Evans, Killings, << 2 Open Spots>>
7 LBs - Washington, Marshall, McIntosh, Clemons, Campbell, Havner, Simon,
5 CBs - Springs, Rogers, Wright, Jimoh, <<Open Spot>>
4 S - Taylor, Archuleta, Prioleau, Doughty
1 K - John Hall
1 P - Frost
1 LS - Ethan Albright

[redwolf1218]

My stab at it (new additions in bold):

3 QBs - Brunell, Campbell, Collins
3 RBs - Portis, Betts, Cartwright
5 FB/TE/HBs - Cooley, Sellars, Nemo, Fauria, <<Open Spot>>
5 WRs - Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten, Thrash
9 OL - Samuels, Dock, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, Pucillo, Walters, Molinaro, Lefotu
9 DL - Griff, Salave'a, Carter, Wynn, Daniels, Evans, Killings, << 2 Open Spots>>
7 LBs - Washington, Marshall, McIntosh, Clemons, Campbell, Havner, Simon,
5 CBs - Springs, Rogers, Wright, Jimoh, <<Open Spot>>
4 S - Taylor, Archuleta, Prioleau, Doughty
1 K - John Hall
1 P - Frost
1 LS - Ethan Albright

only 4 open spots. i hope Onyenegecha gets one of them. i cant wait to see the 6'-6" punter. someone out of the group of Evans, Killings and Boschetti might be in trouble. i remember everyone liked Ron Warner and he disappeared from the NFL in a hurry.

[meloveskinslongtime]

some people are talking about where to put lumsden. I say we dont cut anyone from him. i think he might need some studying to do, he may not be ready yet so instead put him on the practice squad for the season. Next season betts' contract is going to be up and i doubt that he will want to stay here for cheap. then we can activate lumsden to take his spot. I think a portis/ lumsden rushing team can be better than a portis/betts. But he still needs to learn and prove himself. the only problem is that someone else can pick him up while he is on our practice squad. maybe we should just hide him in redskins park basment closet...

[NamVet4]

I agree with CNYSkinFans list.... And I must comment on the singular most glaring point throughout the entire thread:
Our Beloved Team has no fan support for the kicking/punting game.
And I agree........ It's time for the FO and the coaching staff to make serious inquiry into that very crucial part of the game....
just my 2 cents....................

[redwolf1218]

I agree with CNYSkinFans list.... And I must comment on the singular most glaring point throughout the entire thread:
Our Beloved Team has no fan support for the kicking/punting game.
And I agree........ It's time for the FO and the coaching staff to make serious inquiry into that very crucial part of the game....
just my 2 cents....................
they have the kid kicking in Europe in case John Hall gets hurt again. last time i checked he had hit all field goals and extra points except for one 52 yarder. i dont know if he can kick it off deep or not. i dont want to see the kickoffs dropping down between the 15 and 20 yard line again this season. the other team was routinely starting drives at about the 40 yard line. i am also hoping the 6'-6" Australian punter can give Frost some competition. i read somewhere that he might be able to serve as a kickoff specialist, and he will have to be a good holder for field goals, unless they let someone else do that.

[bgforever]

That is one big freakin' fullback. I think the Skins are hoping he becomes another Alstott.


or Wonsley

[joethefan]

Hey guys can I try out for the punter spot?....if anything they needto have at least 10 punters in.... and the person that's average is 1 yard better than frost get the job....

ever seen a punter with locs...kinda cool...:lol1:

[shally]

Not much for me to differ with. Only two. I do think Buck Ortega spells the end of Robert Johnson. I also believe Golston beats out Killings.

agree.. i think johnson is on to his 5th or 6th team next year...

and both killings and boschetti are likely to be gone unless we keep 5 def tackles

[shally]

they have the kid kicking in Europe in case John Hall gets hurt again. last time i checked he had hit all field goals and extra points except for one 52 yarder. i dont know if he can kick it off deep or not. i dont want to see the kickoffs dropping down between the 15 and 20 yard line again this season. the other team was routinely starting drives at about the 40 yard line. i am also hoping the 6'-6" Australian punter can give Frost some competition. i read somewhere that he might be able to serve as a kickoff specialist, and he will have to be a good holder for field goals, unless they let someone else do that.

tyler jones.. i think he missed a couple of makeable kicks this past weekend.

i really want to see frost or the aussie handling kickoffs.. enough of hall trying to make tackles using his kicking leg..!!!

[shally]

That is one big freakin' fullback. I think the Skins are hoping he becomes another Alstott.

i think the template would be larry bowie, or if you want to go further back, charlie harraway...

[OCSkinzFan]

some people are talking about where to put lumsden. I say we dont cut anyone from him. i think he might need some studying to do, he may not be ready yet so instead put him on the practice squad for the season. Next season betts' contract is going to be up and i doubt that he will want to stay here for cheap. then we can activate lumsden to take his spot. I think a portis/ lumsden rushing team can be better than a portis/betts. But he still needs to learn and prove himself. the only problem is that someone else can pick him up while he is on our practice squad. maybe we should just hide him in redskins park basment closet...All of the new players will be evaluated in practice and again in pre-season. We don't need to decide what to do with Lumsden now. Right now he's a Redskin. He might get 7 ypc in preseason and supplant Betts or he may run for negative 20 yards on 10 carries with 2 fumbles. Right now we can't say something like "he might need some studying to do, he may not be ready." The coaches don't even know something like this yet.

We just have to wait and see.

Altough my beer money is on him to make it, and I wouldn't be surprised if we have 4 RB's on the team, especially if Lumsden is productive on ST.

[SeanTaylorLover]

i definatly think that patten will be the #3 over randle el.

[redwolf1218]

i definatly think that patten will be the #3 over randle el.
i'm not so sure about that. Patten might not be back 100% from his knee surgery and i thing Randle El is better anyway.

[meloveskinslongtime]

All of the new players will be evaluated in practice and again in pre-season. We don't need to decide what to do with Lumsden now. Right now he's a Redskin. He might get 7 ypc in preseason and supplant Betts or he may run for negative 20 yards on 10 carries with 2 fumbles. Right now we can't say something like "he might need some studying to do, he may not be ready." The coaches don't even know something like this yet.

We just have to wait and see.

Altough my beer money is on him to make it, and I wouldn't be surprised if we have 4 RB's on the team, especially if Lumsden is productive on ST.


very true. negative 20 yards on 10 carries, ouch. haha

[CNYSkinFan]

I agree with CNYSkinFans list.... And I must comment on the singular most glaring point throughout the entire thread:
Our Beloved Team has no fan support for the kicking/punting game.
And I agree........ It's time for the FO and the coaching staff to make serious inquiry into that very crucial part of the game....
just my 2 cents....................

Thanks NAm.

I know we have our punter hold and that is one of the reason that Smith is enamored with Frost for the most part. Why do we have our punter hold? Why not our backup qb? That way if a play breaks down there is still the possibility of a scramble play (1999 playoffs for example).

I hope Frost and Hall both get some serious competition, and REAL competition. Not the half hearted auditions that usually happen. The jobs need to be on the line.

[smoak]

i'm not so sure about that. Patten might not be back 100% from his knee surgery and i thing Randle El is better anyway.

Patten says he is 100% and could have played in our playoff loss. However, I doubt he sees nearly the balls as the top 3 and I think there is a slim chance he is relased.

[smoak]

Thanks NAm.

I know we have our punter hold and that is one of the reason that Smith is enamored with Frost for the most part. Why do we have our punter hold? Why not our backup qb? That way if a play breaks down there is still the possibility of a scramble play (1999 playoffs for example).
I hope Frost and Hall both get some serious competition, and REAL competition. Not the half hearted auditions that usually happen. The jobs need to be on the line.

That play is useless if the refs do not call penalties on eligible receivers. It happened to us and the Giants. Annoying, but G-men can't complain b/c they blew the second biggest lead in playoff history.

[redwolf1218]

Thanks NAm.

I know we have our punter hold and that is one of the reason that Smith is enamored with Frost for the most part. Why do we have our punter hold? Why not our backup qb? That way if a play breaks down there is still the possibility of a scramble play (1999 playoffs for example).

I hope Frost and Hall both get some serious competition, and REAL competition. Not the half hearted auditions that usually happen. The jobs need to be on the line.
i think the idea of the punter holding is so they can work together on special teams while the QB's work with the offense as far as practice, film study, meetings, etc.

Brad Johnson was not athletic enough to do anything in that playoff game anyway.

i agree Hall and Frost should get some real competition this time around. i am anxious to see the punter from Oz.

[OCSkinzFan]

very true. negative 20 yards on 10 carries, ouch. haha
Every Rookie's nightmare before the first preseason game!:imshock:

[OCSkinzFan]

Thanks NAm.

I know we have our punter hold and that is one of the reason that Smith is enamored with Frost for the most part. Why do we have our punter hold? Why not our backup qb? That way if a play breaks down there is still the possibility of a scramble play (1999 playoffs for example).

I hope Frost and Hall both get some serious competition, and REAL competition. Not the half hearted auditions that usually happen. The jobs need to be on the line.
Let Randell el hold, that'll make em nervous!

[OCSkinzFan]

As pointed out we will not be keeping an h-back position. Whether Cooley still acts like it or not is another story. But roster wise we will have a FB and TE positions, no H-back. Here are my predictions:

3 QBs - Brunell, Campbell, Collins
3 RBs - Portis, Betts, Cartwright
2 FBs - Sellars, Nemo
5 WRs - Moss, Lloyd, Randle El, Patten, Thrash
3 TEs - Cooley, Fauria, Johnson
9 OL - Samuels, Dock, Rabach, Thomas, Jansen, Pucillo, Walters, Molinaro, Alston
9 DL - Griff, Salave'a, Carter, Wynn, Daniels, Evans, Montgomery, Killings, Clemons
8 LBs - Washington, Marshall, Clemons, McIntosh, Campbell, Holdman, Simon,
5 Cbs - Springs, Rogers, Wright, Jimoh, Morton
4 S - Taylor, Archuleta, Prioleau, Doughty
1 K - John Hall
1 P - Frost
1 LS - Ethan Albright
PS - Lefotu, Simon, Ortega, Patterson, Havner, Harvey, Golston, HawkinsNotable cuts from last year's team: McCune & Boschetti (EDIT: And I guess White since he was on IR)

I put in italics the names I think are in jeapordy of being cut if a guy comes out of nowhere.
You only have 7 LB's listed, are you trying to save a slot on the team for Lumsden at RB?

[ukskin]

You only have 7 LB's listed, are you trying to save a slot on the team for Lumsden at RB?
No, he is trying to get 54 men on the roster! If you add up the numbers they come to 54. If you count the players names they come to 53.

Just to be really picky, he has Simon on the active roster and the PS aswell.

[CNYSkinFan]

No, he is trying to get 54 men on the roster! If you add up the numbers they come to 54. If you count the players names they come to 53.

Just to be really picky, he has Simon on the active roster and the PS aswell.
UK got it right. I meant for Simon to make the team and Lumsden or Combs or some RB will go on PS.

[redwolf1218]

i think we might be able to forget the guys in Europe. the latest update from week 7 over there says the kicker missed 2 more field goals so he is now 6 for 9. Aric Williams is not even starting, but saw some limited action as a reserve. if he cant start in Europe then i dont think he'll make it in the NFL. the receiver Richard Smith had 1 catch for 5 yards and a 22 yard kick return. i suspect we'll be sending better players over there next year, from this year's crop.

[CNYSkinFan]

You only have 7 LB's listed, are you trying to save a slot on the team for Lumsden at RB?
I would be very surprised if Lumsden makes the team and if we keep more then 3 RBs when we are keeping 2 FBs. I just don't understand the Lumsden love on this board. I have to wait and see what he does against real NFL competition in spring training, but I really believe he is playing for A PS spot.

[redwolf1218]

I would be very surprised if Lumsden makes the team and if we keep more then 3 RBs when we are keeping 2 FBs. I just don't understand the Lumsden love on this board. I have to wait and see what he does against real NFL competition in spring training, but I really believe he is playing for A PS spot.
i think it's partly because everyone loves the underdog. also, he's an interesting physical specimen with a rare combination of size and speed, if those numbers are really accurate. i think the most important thing he can do in the preseason is just dont fumble.

[Kope65]

Thanks NAm.

I know we have our punter hold and that is one of the reason that Smith is enamored with Frost for the most part. Why do we have our punter hold? Why not our backup qb? That way if a play breaks down there is still the possibility of a scramble play (1999 playoffs for example).

I hope Frost and Hall both get some serious competition, and REAL competition. Not the half hearted auditions that usually happen. The jobs need to be on the line.

Don't forget Gibbs has said several times he is going to move his attention from O, as Saunders has it now, to ST as a coach (much like VaTech...in fact if I could ask Gibbs one question - it would be if he is trying the Beemer approach) . That, I think, covers the "ST needs attention" issue.

I will say I think our ST has gotten much better over the last three years. This brings to mind a quote from Gibbs when he first took over...it was something to the effect- "we need better depth...when our guys get get cut nobody picks them up...we will know when we are ok talent wise when our guys get cut and are snatched up." (again this was a paraphrase). He was, I believe, addressing the woes we had on ST at the time. AS we have gotten better depth, our ST has gotten better; and this year our cut players were snatched up. ST is the one area I am wtching closest this year...should be fun

[smoak]

i think we might be able to forget the guys in Europe. the latest update from week 7 over there says the kicker missed 2 more field goals so he is now 6 for 9. Aric Williams is not even starting, but saw some limited action as a reserve. if he cant start in Europe then i dont think he'll make it in the NFL. the receiver Richard Smith had 1 catch for 5 yards and a 22 yard kick return. i suspect we'll be sending better players over there next year, from this year's crop.

I have a feeling we'll be sending a DT over next season. :D

[redwolf1218]

I have a feeling we'll be sending a DT over next season. :D
is it possible to send 2 tackles to every team over there? j/k

does anyone know how many they can send over there? also i was wondering, can anyone else claim them to the roster, like they can with practice squad guys?