Big Ben hurt in Motorcycle crash

[akhhorus]

http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_163114722.html

In the hospital, no word on how he's doing.

[RedskinRyan]

shame for him and the steelers

anybody else remember the thing about him and not wearing a helmet after teh evil kellneivel incident?

[S.Taylor36]

Unreal. These guys will never learn. I hope he's ok but you are putting your career in jeoporday everytime you go on one of those things. Bill Cowher told him to wear a helmet after Kellen Winslow's accident.

[PA Skins Girl]

Hope he is okay.

BUT, I remember when he was quoted after the Winslow accident that he rode motorcycles without a helmet, but that it was okay because the rode in groups. I thought to myself, WTH?

Anyway, again, hope his is okay and that he'll learn from this and at least wear a helmet in the future.

[redskin_rich]

I hope he is alright but with that said, he is a dumb***.

[danny's stogie]

I hope he is alright but with that said, he is a dumb***.

Kill the thread. Nothing more needs to be said.

[tbfoster1]

colin cowherd said a witness reported that he went over the handle bars hit another car and fell to the ground. they closed the bridge that it was on

[smoak]

Wow, I hope he is ok, but I just don't understand how someone could be that dumb???

[ShaggySkins]

ESPN reported he hit another car at an intersection and head cracked the cars windshield. They said it isn't life threatening but he is being treated at the hospital.

Big Ben was one of the most outspoken people when the KWII motorcycle accident happened kinda bragging about how he would never wear a helmet. I hope this will help him learn why helmets are important.

[RedskinRyan]

would he play football without his helmet? its kind of the same thing. way too risky.

[joethefan]

would he play football without his helmet? its kind of the same thing. way too risky.

That's the best question I've seen all day....these guys are just stupid...cmon

[Santheb]

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/8449812

PITTSBURGH (May 6, 2005) -- Despite Kellen Winslow 's accident and his own coach's admonition, Big Ben isn't hopping off his big bike just yet.

Ben Roethlisberger was lectured by Steelers coach Bill Cowher on the dangers of riding a motorcycle without a helmet -- as Roethlisberger has been spotted doing recently -- but the quarterback isn't ready to get off his $20,000 cycle.

"He talked about being a risk taker and I'm not really a risk taker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said as the Steelers opened their minicamp. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

Asked why he doesn't wear a helmet -- something he wouldn't think about doing on a football field -- Roethlisberger pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended two years ago.

"Obviously Pennsylvania doesn't think people need to (wear a helmet)," he said. "There's a law you've got to wear it in football."

Steelers linebacker Joey Porter was surprised to hear the NFL offensive rookie of the year is taking such risks so soon after Winslow's accident. The Browns tight end, drafted five spots ahead of Roethlisberger last year, was injured May 1 when he flew off a newly purchased motorcycle after running into a parking lot curb.

"Some guys are real good on motorcycles and know what they're doing, but accidents happen," Porter said. "I can't knock the guy for doing it, but it's probably not the wisest thing to do. I don't own a bike because I don't trust them."

Porter occasionally gets on a Jet Ski, but he said that's different from steering a motorcycle through heavy traffic. Roethlisberger acknowledged many drivers become distracted when they see him riding, shouting or waving at him.

"If I fall off a Jet Ski, I hit the water, and I like my odds," Porter said. "I'm going to get wet. What I say about motorcycles is that concrete is undefeated."

Of course, Roethlisberger was, too, as a rookie, going 13-0 during the Steelers' team-record 15-1 regular season before losing to New England in the AFC championship game.

The Steelers are understandably cautious about combining a first-round draft choice and a high-speed vehicle. Gabe Rivera, the defensive lineman they chose instead of quarterback Dan Marino in the 1983 draft, was paralyzed after wrecking his sports car midway through his rookie season and hasn't walked since.

Many NFL contracts prohibit engaging in dangerous activities, but Roethlisberger's deal apparently doesn't specifically ban motorcycle riding.

Cowher didn't criticize Roethlisberger's riding, but is visibly uneasy with it.

"I certainly don't condone that," Cowher said. "It (playing pro football) is a very small time in your life and you've got to be very careful -- you can see it documented with Kellen Winslow in Cleveland. There are choices and consequences ... not just in riding motorcycles, but where you go and who you associate with. You have control over them but once you make your decision, they control you."

Meanwhile, all players reported to the minicamp, the formal start to the final month of the Steelers' offseason workouts. Most players will remain in town through mid-June for "coaching sessions," daily workouts that technically are voluntary but usually are fully attended.


"If I fall off a Jet Ski, I hit the water, and I like my odds," Porter said. "I'm going to get wet. What I say about motorcycles is that concrete is undefeated."

I like that quote :P

[RedskinRyan]

certainly a good quote. i dunno the win percentage for windshields, but i think they pulled an upset over big ben.

[CNYSkinFan]

dude not good for BNig Ben or the steelers.

[RedskinRyan]

early reports say not life-threatening, but what about his career or the 2006 season? guess we'll get teh answer in a few days.

[Santheb]

early reports say not life-threatening, but what about his career or the 2006 season? guess we'll get teh answer in a few days.

Some people are questioning whether he'll ever play football again.

[Skinz4lyfe]

What are these guys thinking? I too remember him kind of defending KWII w/some silly tongue-in-cheek comments. I like Big Ben but if you're gonna ride a motorcycle you gotta wear the gear to protect yourself. That being said I hope he's alright.

[S.Taylor36]

Some people are questioning whether he'll ever play football again.

From every quote I have read I will not be at all shocked by any outcome. I just hope he is ok. Football becomes a very distant second when your life is involved. Athletes have to learn that it can all be taken away from you at any point in time. They may have all the fame and money but you get onto a motorcycle or even a car you are no different from anyone else. Life does not make exceptions for football players.

[smoak]

What are these guys thinking? I too remember him kind of defending KWII w/some silly tongue-in-cheek comments. I like Big Ben but if you're gonna ride a motorcycle you gotta wear the gear to protect yourself. That being said I hope he's alright.

Or just don't ask people to feel sorry for you. I am not in favor of laws that protect people from themselves b/c it should be a personal decision. I just shake my head and wonder what a pro athlete is doing within 200 yards of a motorcycle. :banghead:

[redskin_rich]

From every quote I have read I will not be at all shocked by any outcome. I just hope he is ok. Football becomes a very distant second when your life is involved. Athletes have to learn that it can all be taken away from you at any point in time. They may have all the fame and money but you get onto a motorcycle or even a car you are no different from anyone else. Life does not make exceptions for football players.
So true. I grew up riding motorcycles and I have had a bad crash myself. Over the years, I have lost two friends and a co-worker to motorcycle accidents.
I have a desire to ride again but have decided to wait until my kids are grown up before I buy a bike. Not that I would ride without a helmet or do anything stupid, I just worry about the other idiots on the road. Not a hard decision for me but to each his/her own, I guess.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Buy yourself a motorcycle for your last birthday.

What do you guys say we all chip in on a motorcycle for TO?

[RedskinRyan]

Buy yourself a motorcycle for your last birthday.

What do you guys say we all chip in on a motorcycle for TO?

he'll still be louder than it

[C-7]

he'll still be louder than it



:lol1: :lol1:

[colkurtz]

Accident now reported as serious. His head hit the windshield of the other car.

This is a cautionary tale if I've ever heard of one.

The news media will spend reams of print to cover this story on a multi-million dollar a year sports "hero" who should know better. The kids who are dying for American in Iraq and Afghanistan [mostly for around $15000 a year pay] are just a statistic. Sad..

[shally]

looks like big ben is going to be up for a Darwin Award..
what a colossally stupid mofoo...

[Ibleedburgundy]

This is what I had in mind.

[shally]

This is what I had in mind.

put a 454 cc engine in that and you would have quite a crotch rocket, my friend...:lol1:

[RedskinRyan]

Accident now reported as serious. His head hit the windshield of the other car.

This is a cautionary tale if I've ever heard of one.

The news media will spend reams of print to cover this story on a multi-million dollar a year sports "hero" who should know better. The kids who are dying for American in Iraq and Afghanistan [mostly for around $15000 a year pay] are just a statistic. Sad..

it always did sound serious. i mean c'mon, there not even talking about his playing status, the reports say they dont think its life-threatening. bleeding from the head after flying over the handles and headbutting a windshield? even gus frerotte got a shiver from hearing that. this aint no bandaid booboo.

[redskin_rich]

looks like big ben is going to be up for a Darwin Award..
what a colossally stupid mofoo...
Don't you all in the medical profession have another name for motocyclists? Organ donors..

[Ibleedburgundy]

it always did sound serious. i mean c'mon, there not even talking about his playing status, the reports say they dont think its life-threatening. bleeding from the head after flying over the handles and headbutting a windshield? even gus frerotte got a shiver from hearing that. this aint no bandaid booboo.

Now I feel bad for joking about it. Hope Big Ben is allright. Dude seems like a good guy.

[RedskinRyan]

i dont remember the term about it, but joking about stuff isnt funny is just a way of making it socially acceptable. and dont forget, humor comes in all forms.

i feel bad for him, i hope he recovers well to be able to play in the future, but most importantly that he learns from this.

[smoak]

Now I feel bad for joking about it. Hope Big Ben is allright. Dude seems like a good guy.

Big Ben is a big boy. He knew the risks and snubbed his nose at the notion that anything could happen. I look at it this way... I'd LOVE to cage dive with great whites in the water, but I'd expect people to laugh if I got eaten. I know the risks and don't want pity if something happens.

That sounds cold, but he should have been smarter. They call them Darwin awards for a reason. Maybe Ben's genes were not meant to be passed on.

Of course I want him to recover anmd even play football again.

[S.Taylor36]

The Associated Press reports that Ben Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition in a Pittsburgh operating room after a motorcycle accident.
ESPN's John Clayton reports Roethlisberger is conscious while undergoing treatment for gashes on his forehead. Pittsburgh television station KDKA mentioned rumors of a broken jaw, but that has not been confirmed by any major news source

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I really hope he will be ok after surgery and make a full recovery. Having said that, if I were a Steelers fan or part of the Steelers organization, I would be FURIOUS. First of all no professional athlete should be anywhere near a motorcycle. I live in Italy and like some of you might know, here there are millions of motorcycles and scooters everywhere, and there is one rule that everybody knows: sooner or later you are gonna fall. It happens to at least 90 percent of motorcycle riders (including my dad, brother, and anybody I know who has ever owned a Motorcycle or scooter). Second of all, and this is incredible, how could he ride around not wearing a helmet? That is one of the stupidest things you can do. My brother would have faced extremely serious damage if he hadn't been wearing a helmet when he fell.
So, I hope he recovers well, but he is one REALLY dumb dude...

[LATrueRedskin]

Forget football, this guy was in a serious motorcycle accident, and apparently it's serious. I hope he pulls through without any brain damage, let alone play football next year. Not the smartest move made by Roethlisberger.

[Red Bear]

i hope ben r makes a full recovery and is able to play again, he just needs to be safer with what he does. this should open his eyes. ben r. seems like he was on his way to an illustrious career full of football stories and glory, and id like to see that. so it sounds physically he isnt that bad off, but i wonder if this could affect him mentally, such as the speed he thinks at and stuff...

[fent]

i hope ben r makes a full recovery and is able to play again, he just needs to be safer with what he does. this should open his eyes. ben r. seems like he was on his way to an illustrious career full of football stories and glory, and id like to see that. so it sounds physically he isnt that bad off, but i wonder if this could affect him mentally, such as the speed he thinks at and stuff...

i don't know that anyone is saying that...reports from the scene involved a 6 inch hole in the windshield and massive amounts of blood at the scene and he's still in surgery where ANYTHING can happen. he's not out of the woods yet.

[DoGood]

I hope he makes a full recovery, but stuff like this is incredibly selfish. This puts the success and future of the whole Steelers franchise in jeopardy.

[DoGood]

I really hope he will be ok after surgery and make a full recovery. Having said that, if I were a Steelers fan or part of the Steelers organization, I would be FURIOUS. First of all no professional athlete should be anywhere near a motorcycle. I live in Italy and like some of you might know, here there are millions of motorcycles and scooters everywhere, and there is one rule that everybody knows: sooner or later you are gonna fall. It happens to at least 90 percent of motorcycle riders (including my dad, brother, and anybody I know who has ever owned a Motorcycle or scooter). Second of all, and this is incredible, how could he ride around not wearing a helmet? That is one of the stupidest things you can do. My brother would have faced extremely serious damage if he hadn't been wearing a helmet when he fell.
So, I hope he recovers well, but he is one REALLY dumb dude...

I think you should hold a symposium for every team in the NFL.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

I think you should hold a symposium for every team in the NFL.
Am I gonna get paid?

[IMALILTEAPOT]

thats pretty crazy man, he hit his head on a windshield? hes real lucky

[Dolla Bill]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830


A couple of key notes from the article. He does have a broken jaw, and he just went into surgery. He was coherent and understood what was going on, but he is in serious condition.

Edit:

KFFL update:

Steelers | Roethlisberger injury update
Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:47:40 -0700

John Clayton, on ESPNews, reports Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger (head, knee) is in surgery to fix a broken jaw. He also suffered a nine-inch laceration on his head, some missing teeth and knee damage. The team is not commenting on his accident yet.

[S.Taylor36]

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has detailed the severity of Ben Roethlisberger's injuries.
"Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground," police said. A plastic surgeon has been summoned. ESPN's John Clayton projects Roethlisberger needing 7-8 weeks of "downtime" to recuperate and only "some" knee damage. That timeline would have Roethlisberger back before the end of training camp.

[redskin_rich]

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has detailed the severity of Ben Roethlisberger's injuries.
"Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground," police said. A plastic surgeon has been summoned. ESPN's John Clayton projects Roethlisberger needing 7-8 weeks of "downtime" to recuperate and only "some" knee damage. That timeline would have Roethlisberger back before the end of training camp.
So he destroyed his face and damaged his knees. Bad but could have been worse.

This is going to have an impact on his play and on the Steelers this year, mark my words.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I hope he makes a full recovery, but stuff like this is incredibly selfish. This puts the success and future of the whole Steelers franchise in jeopardy.
I don't think the success of the Steelers is important at this point. While I agree that this is stupid, I am (and I would be even as a Steelers' fan) more concerned about his health than anything else.

[lightskin]

Wow.........sorry to hear that. Hope he will be okay.

[ConradCountry]

http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_163114722.html

In the hospital, no word on how he's doing.

It is always sad when you are hoping someone lives instead of plays again.

[fent]

the word from a buddy in Pittsburgh is that even if his body recovers in time, the head trauma was so much that it's doubtful he'll ever find a doctor that will clear him to play.

[redskin_rich]

the word from a buddy in Pittsburgh is that even if his body recovers in time, the head trauma was so much that it's doubtful he'll ever find a doctor that will clear him to play.
For good or for the season?

[skinfanjon]

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has detailed the severity of Ben Roethlisberger's injuries.
"Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground," police said. A plastic surgeon has been summoned. ESPN's John Clayton projects Roethlisberger needing 7-8 weeks of "downtime" to recuperate and only "some" knee damage. That timeline would have Roethlisberger back before the end of training camp.

Lost most of his teeth?? Umm, what exactly do they do for such an injury? Last time I checked, teeth don't regenerate.

It's amazing how things can get out of control so quickly. I was playing poker last night at a private game, sitting pretty up a couple hundred bucks. Next thing I know, the doors are kicked in and we're all held at gunpoint while two guys rob the place. I would equate the possibility of Roth riding without a helmet again to me playing at that guy's house again....

[S.Taylor36]

So he destroyed his face and damaged his knees. Bad but could have been worse.

This is going to have an impact on his play and on the Steelers this year, mark my words.

No doubt it effects the Steelers.

[fent]

For good or for the season?

for good is what he's heard.

[S.Taylor36]

Lost most of his teeth?? Umm, what exactly do they do for such an injury? Last time I checked, teeth don't regenerate.

It's amazing how things can get out of control so quickly. I was playing poker last night at a private game, sitting pretty up a couple hundred bucks. Next thing I know, the doors are kicked in and we're all held at gunpoint while two guys rob the place. I would equate the possibility of Roth riding without a helmet again to me playing at that guy's house again....

Wow, sounds like a horrible night. You gotta be careful who you associate yourself with.

[skinfanjon]

Wow, sounds like a horrible night. You gotta be careful who you associate yourself with.

That's the thing, no one there seemed even remotely sketchy, but apparently the game was too well advertised and the wrong people found out. It definately sucked.

What a shame it would be if Ben is forced to retire, both for he and the Steelers. I certainly hope he is okay.

[akhhorus]

Big Ben is in bad shape:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/s_457685.html


Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition and in surgery this afternoon following a serious head injury this morning after his motorcycle collided with a car on Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge, police said.

Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

unbelieveable.....i feel sorry for him, but you cant do something that stupid. i hope he recovers but this should be a lesson for everyone thinking about doing something risky like that. the irony is that his main injury is apparently to his head.

[joethefan]

the word from a buddy in Pittsburgh is that even if his body recovers in time, the head trauma was so much that it's doubtful he'll ever find a doctor that will clear him to play.

Charlie Batch....

Shoot I guess we could have kept ramsey..and got at least a number 2.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.

damm, sounds a lot worse than they first reported. i can't imagine losing all your teeth, then breaking your jaw and a fracture sinus cavity. i'm not a collision expert, but wearing a helmet could have minimized or prevented some of those injuries. get well soon Ben!

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

Big Ben is in bad shape:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/s_457685.html
I know this may come off sounding weird but it really sounds like it could have been worse...Im telling you guys knowing first hand the kinda shape that people come into the ER from motorcycle accidents. It sounds like at least he didnt have a brain bleed or a serious skull fracture also with the way he hit that car forehead first it is a good thing he didnt fracture his cervical spine(if reports are correct). They can fix knees and jaws and make you new teeth but many riders i see dont come out of these types of wrecks alive. I emplore those of you who ride to find some other forms of enjoyment. Sorry for my preaching but i dont need anymore buissness.

[akhhorus]

Charlie Batch....

Shoot I guess we could have kept ramsey..and got at least a number 2.

I know I'm "biased", but if I were the Steelers, I would rather go with Schaub or an established Vet like Dilfer over Ramsey.

[joethefan]

I know I'm "biased", but if I were the Steelers, I would rather go with Schaub or an established Vet like Dilfer over Ramsey.

yea but atlanta isn't gonna pull the trigger on shaub...but I'm sure that some body is calling the steelers now...pr as soon as they find outhow long it will take....

[fent]

can anyone say Kerry Collins?

[akhhorus]

can anyone say Kerry Collins?

Bingo Pajama. He might want to go ahead and fly there now.

[joethefan]

Bingo Pajama. He might want to go ahead and fly there now.

that thought came to my head first....LOL

[silverspring]

sounds like he will live so i can now say that i have no sympathy for him at all. he had the world and just threw it away being an idiot. it is one thing to ride a motorcycle another to do so without a helmet. it isn't like you are going to land on something soft.

[koepke25]

do we have any players that like to ride?

[akhhorus]

do we have any players that like to ride?

No, but we can take up a collection to get Warrick Holdman and Derrick Frost some powerful hogs.

[InsomniaKiller]

The accident scene:
http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20060613sm_benwreck01_580.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/904361/9356658.jpg



The next two are a little...grosser. So since there are probably a couple people who get queasy at the sight of blood (like myself), you gotta click if you really want to see it. (Nothing horrible, just blood on the concrete.)

YUCK:

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5688088_7_2.jpg
yuck!

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5688336_7_2.jpg
eeew!!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

those pics arent too bad. i thought id see chunks and teeth or something.

[akhhorus]

those pics arent too bad. i thought id see chunks and teeth or something.

Yeah, and the worse part is that the Seahawks fans are complaining that Big Ben didn't really hit the car, but the refs are just claiming he did.

(zing!)

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

those pics arent too bad. i thought id see chunks and teeth or something.
Yeah and as far as blood goes the head is one of the most vascular parts of the body, so its dosent apear to be an amazing amount. Just think of when the pro wrestlers cut that little tiny razor slit in the head and bleed like its going out of style. Im more concerned about his knees then anything. I hope that pot hole in the picture was there prior to the accident and not made by his knee.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Yeah, and the worse part is that the Seahawks fans are complaining that Big Ben didn't really hit the car, but the refs are just claiming he did.

(zing!)
:lol1: im sure there are tons of seahawks fans who want to send the woman who hit ben a thank you card. :rolleyes:

[danny's stogie]

I have a feeling this is a lot worse than they are letting on at this point. Not life threatening, but I'm thinking paralysis or brain damage -- I don't know how to properly phrase this medically or without poor taste, but like, spoon fed creamed corn for the rest of his life brain damage.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Yeah and as far as blood goes the head is one of the most vascular parts of the body, so its dosent apear to be an amazing amount. Just think of when the pro wrestlers cut that little tiny razor slit in the head and bleed like its going out of style. Im more concerned about his knees then anything. I hope that pot hole in the picture was there prior to the accident and not made by his knee.
ugh, if his knee caused that pot hole, ben would be knee-less.

[Vonslydog]

I have a feeling this is a lot worse than they are letting on at this point. Not life threatening, but I'm thinking paralysis or brain damage -- I don't know how to properly phrase this medically or without poor taste, but like, spoon fed creamed corn for the rest of his life brain damage.
I get this kind of feeling too, even though I hope it isn't the case. I just remember when Princess Diana got in her accident, and for the first few hours they said she had leg injuries, and then all of a sudden the report she passed away. I doubt it is that bad in this case, what with all the reports of him talking. But I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it turned out that his injuries were more serious than are being reported now.

[akhhorus]

I have a feeling this is a lot worse than they are letting on at this point. Not life threatening, but I'm thinking paralysis or brain damage -- I don't know how to properly phrase this medically or without poor taste, but like, spoon fed creamed corn for the rest of his life brain damage.

I beleive the term is:
A Poston Brother
or
A Cowboys Fan
or
(make up your own)

[rskinsfan10]

As a motorcyclist myself, I've never, ever understood why any of my fellow cyclist would ever ride without a helmet, even when the law says that you don't have to.

[skinfanjon]

As a motorcyclist myself, I've never, ever understood why any of my fellow cyclist would ever ride without a helmet, even when the law says that you don't have to.

But its so much more fun when you can feel the wind on your face!!!:rolleyes:

[fent]

But its so much more fun when you can feel the wind on your face!!!:rolleyes:

how much of this is really that attitude and how much is the attitude i would probably have of "if i'm going to get thrown, i'll likely die with or without, so screw it"

[skinfanjon]

how much of this is really that attitude and how much is the attitude i would probably have of "if i'm going to get thrown, i'll likely die with or without, so screw it"

Good point.

[redskin_rich]

how much of this is really that attitude and how much is the attitude i would probably have of "if i'm going to get thrown, i'll likely die with or without, so screw it"
In this case, a fullfaced helmet would have definitely saved Ben from the crushing his lower face took and the 9" laceration on his head (that's going to leave a nasty scar).

This girl I used to work with died of head trauma from her crash and she was wearing a helmet.

If you go down at a high speed, then the helmet may not save you but it doesn't take any speed to crack your melon on concrete, glass or steel, when not wearing a helmet.

[HAWGZHEAD]

I called my buddy the huge Steelers fan todaty after I heard it on the radio and he thought i was joking when I told him what happened. That is a shame that he got hurt like that but he should have been smart enough to wear a helmet. I hope he makes a quick and full recovery, he is good for the game.

[bgforever]

Now that his dumb to dumber escapade is over, it should be VERY clear, why people give people advice.


Song of the Week

(In England, there is the famous clock that never stopped ticking, until one unfateful day! The repair was made and it ticks in stride once more)


" Get Well Big Ben, But Don't Ya' Do It Again"

[budman]

i hope he make a speedy, complete & total recovery . . . i will keep him in my prayers . . . please, wear a helmet if you ride.

[colkurtz]

I'm no medical expert, but those big circular cracks in the windshield came from his unprotected head hitting the glass. One of the prior posters says " he'll be back by end of TC???" That seems optimistic to me.

Head trauma and severe knee injury. Shally and the other medical folks we have here - what's the real story?

He's lucky to be alive. The good news is that perhaps his story will convince others to wear helmets.

[RedskinsDave]

I love how I can be ticketed for not wearing a seatbelt INSIDE a car and morons like this can ride donorcycles with no helmet. I assume he is also allowed to use a cell phone. :banghead:

[shally]

I'm no medical expert, but those big circular cracks in the windshield came from his unprotected head hitting the glass. One of the prior posters says " he'll be back by end of TC???" That seems optimistic to me.

Head trauma and severe knee injury. Shally and the other medical folks we have here - what's the real story?

He's lucky to be alive. The good news is that perhaps his story will convince others to wear helmets.

if you can post me a link that has the specific description of injury i will weigh in with my thoughts..

for the earlier poster who commented upon the fatality of a co worker due to a MCA injury i will tell you that the overall death stats with MCA's have not changed that much in states with helmet laws.. why? because the mode of death in severe crashes changes from head injury to neck injury.. you just changed the way you die.

but in less severe crashes there seems to be a reduction in fatalities and for certain, there is a reduction in facial injuries.. so, from the most cursory look it appears that many of ben's injuries were preventable by helmet... again, let me see if i can get some more data... also i had not read anything about knee injuries, which would not be helmet preventable, but as in KW2's case were the thing that cost him a season..

i will try to get back on this later tonight..

[shally]

I get this kind of feeling too, even though I hope it isn't the case. I just remember when Princess Diana got in her accident, and for the first few hours they said she had leg injuries, and then all of a sudden the report she passed away. I doubt it is that bad in this case, what with all the reports of him talking. But I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it turned out that his injuries were more serious than are being reported now.


with polytrauma it takes time for the full extent of injuries to be known even in a hospital setting. they will keep doing scans and images until the full extent is known.

at this point the goal is support of life and stabilization of vital signs. the diagnostic stuff will proceed accordingly

[SpicyMcHaggis]

From Big Ben's interview in May 2005 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2481004):

ESPN: It's not the law in Pennsylvania to wear a helmet. Why don't you wear a helmet?
Roethlisberger: Because you don't have to. It's not the law. If it was the law, I'd definitely have one on every time I rode. But it's the law and I know I don't have to and you're just more free when you're out there with no helmet on.

If this isn't the stupidest, most arrogant thing I've ever heard, then it's damn close..It's your head you are protecting, you friggin' idiot!! :banghead:
I wonder just how "free" he feels right now...

[SpicyMcHaggis]

As a motorcyclist myself, I've never, ever understood why any of my fellow cyclist would ever ride without a helmet, even when the law says that you don't have to.
Because the world is divided into smart people and stupid people.

[Fathead]

Well, I've already seen Ben in a wheelchair photoshops. Hooray for the internet.



I don't see how not wearing a helmet makes you "free".

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

From Big Ben's interview in May 2005 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2481004):


If this isn't the stupidest, most arrogant thing I've ever heard, then it's damn close..It's your head you are protecting, you friggin' idiot!! :banghead:
I wonder just how "free" he feels right now...
OMG... I wonder how somebody that makes stupid comments like that, can be so smart on a football field.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

OMG... I wonder how somebody that makes stupid comments like that, can be so smart on a football field.
Pretty amazing huh?
But what is even more amazing is the the Steelers did nothing..I would at least obligated him to wear a helmet..

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Pretty amazing huh?
But what is even more amazing is the the Steelers did nothing..I would at least obligated him to wear a helmet..
Yep, that's right... unless I'm not sure if that is possible after he has already signed a contract. Good to agree on something huh? :)

[guess88]

Don't you all think it's kinda funny when Joey Porter is the voice of reason? Guy's a class act off the field... on the field he's a monster. Which is why i hope the predictions for Rocky are true.

[ryflan47]

Man I hope he's ok.. he's really fun to watch.

[VTBob]

Unlike most people here, I don't feel sorry for him at all. He is an idiot for not wearing a helmet, and got what he risked by being too macho for a helmet. If his idiocy ends his career, too bad so sad. Hes a darn good QB with lots of potential, but he kept on making the stupid choice of neglecting his safety and is paying the price. I agree with earlier sentiments in this thread about how he'll be front page material, but soldier deaths are merely statistics in the daily morning news now :rolleyes:

[skinfan13]

well all i have to say is that hes an idiot; you should always wear a helmet. ive heard around that if he had been wearing a helmet he would have been out of the hospital hours ago.

[FanFromArizona]

Few thoughts:

1. I would like to see the Players Union put an end to this nonsense. Why can't they be smart for these fools and make it a part of the collective bargaining agreement? It would be in the agents interest to protect their players future viability....what would have happened to the agent if Ben ended his playing career today for his boneheaded and stubborn act? Did anyone hear Antonio's comments? [Too much time on their hands and not knowing what to do with it? BAN BONEHEADED acts like this!]

2. It's a shame there is no equivalent to the Military's "Conduct Unbecoming" [of a Football Player].....
You would think the occurrence of KW II occurrence a year ago, comments made by Terry Bradshaw about BR's comments at that time would stand for something.....

3. I have NO sympathy for this stupid act. I wonder what BR's Wonderlic score was.

[RedskinRyan]

well all i have to say is that hes an idiot; you should always wear a helmet. ive heard around that if he had been wearing a helmet he would have been out of the hospital hours ago.

nobody knows that for sure. as soon as something happens, all the odd rumors come out from nowhere.

hearing about the injuries he suffered, i think its about time pittsburgh looks for a new qb.

[PyroGenic]

I get this kind of feeling too, even though I hope it isn't the case. I just remember when Princess Diana got in her accident, and for the first few hours they said she had leg injuries, and then all of a sudden the report she passed away. I doubt it is that bad in this case, what with all the reports of him talking. But I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it turned out that his injuries were more serious than are being reported now.


they never release anything frightening at the beginning, it may be to calm the family down or whatever but you can definitely count on big ben living through this, the question is in what capacity will he do so.

[smoak]

how much of this is really that attitude and how much is the attitude i would probably have of "if i'm going to get thrown, i'll likely die with or without, so screw it"

I did hear one "expert" on the radio cite a study that showed the additional weight (even as little as 4 lbs) on the head can worsen neck injuries. Not sure if there is any validity to that qat all, but I certainly do not think for one second that Big Ben or other bikers go without helmets for that reason.

Around me, I think a lot of it has to do with being vain. Guys ride around really and like to be seen at red lights. Combine that with the macho attitude and nobody wears a helmet.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

I did hear one "expert" on the radio cite a study that showed the additional weight (even as little as 4 lbs) on the head can worsen neck injuries. Not sure if there is any validity to that qat all, but I certainly do not think for one second that Big Ben or other bikers go without helmets for that reason.

Around me, I think a lot of it has to do with being vain. Guys ride around really and like to be seen at red lights. Combine that with the macho attitude and nobody wears a helmet.

I think florida and SC are the other two states that don't regulate the usage of helmets. I remember going though Miami and these guys and girls were on choppers doing 90 up I95, with no freagin' helmets. It was just pure insane. But vanity in a place like south beach definitely shouldn't apply to motorcycle riding.

I think Ben's extremely lucky. He was riding a Suzuki Hayabusa w/ the duel exaust(sp), them things are like 1200 cc. And then gets cut off by someone making a left turn and goes flying over the bars and smashes into a windsheild. Someone was praying for him, i tell you that much.

Oh yeah, on the interview he said he told Cower that he only rides choppers and cruzers, and that he doens't ride sport bikes or crotch rockets. Well apparently he was on the world's fastest bike, which is a sports bike

[hockeygoalie29]

Minor updates on his injuries, apparently there is no serious trauma to his brain and most injuries are cosmetic (broken bones, lacerations, etc.)

"He suffered multiple facial fractures," Pituch said. "All of the fractures were successfully repaired. His brain, spine, chest and abdomen appear to be without serious injury. And there are no other confirmed injuries at this time."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

[smoak]

Well apparently he was on the world's fastest bike, which is a sports bike

I heard that as well!! You aren't kidding that someone was looking out for him!

[shally]

I did hear one "expert" on the radio cite a study that showed the additional weight (even as little as 4 lbs) on the head can worsen neck injuries. Not sure if there is any validity to that qat all, but I certainly do not think for one second that Big Ben or other bikers go without helmets for that reason.

Around me, I think a lot of it has to do with being vain. Guys ride around really and like to be seen at red lights. Combine that with the macho attitude and nobody wears a helmet.

it is a valid argument to some degree... there is nothing that can protect against that amount of speed and high velocity trauma.

darwinism at work here, folks...

[redskin_rich]

Minor updates on his injuries, apparently there is no serious trauma to his brain and most injuries are cosmetic (broken bones, lacerations, etc.)



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830
If he comes out of this with no lingering injuries, he truly is lucky. His mug will never be the same though and he is a man in his twenties with false teeth.

Even if he is all healed up, he won't be in good shape for training camp and he will probably lose weight, since he will be eating from a straw for the next two months.

[Dolla Bill]

If he comes out of this with no lingering injuries, he truly is lucky. His mug will never be the same though and he is a man in his twenties with false teeth.

Even if he is all healed up, he won't be in good shape for training camp and he will probably lose weight, since he will be eating from a straw for the next two months.


Maybe he will lose the weight, maybe not. People can gain weight through liquids, such as protein shakes, and the like. I think he won't lose weight, but muscle. Its going to be a while before he can even get up from the bed to walk.

[redskin_rich]

Maybe he will lose the weight, maybe not. People can gain weight through liquids, such as protein shakes, and the like. I think he won't lose weight, but muscle. Its going to be a while before he can even get up from the bed to walk.
If he loses muscle but not weight, than he would have to have gained twice as much in fat. That is very likely though, as you pointed out, he won't be doing many exercises for a while.

[shally]

Maybe he will lose the weight, maybe not. People can gain weight through liquids, such as protein shakes, and the like. I think he won't lose weight, but muscle. Its going to be a while before he can even get up from the bed to walk.

i have never seen a patient with a fracture jaw that didn't lose weight or body mass... you simply cannot drink enough shakes over time to manage it.. you think you would, but it doesn't work out that way...at the least it will affect his stamina.

[Dolla Bill]

i have never seen a patient with a fracture jaw that didn't lose weight or body mass... you simply cannot drink enough shakes over time to manage it.. you think you would, but it doesn't work out that way...at the least it will affect his stamina.


I think he will lose weight, but not an extreme weight loss. It will be more muscle than anything he will lose. Btw, this is from KFFL if Pittsburgh wanted to go after some money:

Steelers | Roethlisberger's contract has provisions against non-football injuries
Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:26:01 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger's contract contains a default provision that says the Steelers have the right to go after some of his bonus money if Roethlisberger cannot play due to a non-football injury. If Roethlisberger were unable to report to training camp (unlikely), and if the team wanted to enforce the contract's language (also unlikely), and if Pittsburgh prevailed in the case, the Steelers could pursue $400,000 of Roethlisberger's signing bonus and another $5.79 million in bonus payments, according to a person who has reviewed the contract. Of course, the primary issue for Roethlisberger right now is his recovery.

[skinfanjon]

I think he will lose weight, but not an extreme weight loss. It will be more muscle than anything he will lose. Btw, this is from KFFL if Pittsburgh wanted to go after some money:

Actually, all NFL contracts have a default condition relating to non football related injuries. There is a standard dollar amount, which I cant remember, but it is present in all player contracts. It is possible the Steelers added an extra provision in Ben's contract though.

[danny's stogie]

Didn't KWII give up 2 million of his signing bonus voluntarily after his accident? I know we love to make fun of him, but that was a great gesture and hopefully created a precedent for Ben to follow.

[S.Taylor36]

KDKA in Pittsburgh reports that Ben Roethlisberger doesn't have a Pennsylvania motorcycle license.
This doesn't affect much, possibly other than Roethlisberger's ability to collect insurance money. It's just another log on the fire, though, for the mounting criticism surrounding Roethlisberger's accident.

http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_164115654.html

[smoak]

KDKA in Pittsburgh reports that Ben Roethlisberger doesn't have a Pennsylvania motorcycle license.
This doesn't affect much, possibly other than Roethlisberger's ability to collect insurance money. It's just another log on the fire, though, for the mounting criticism surrounding Roethlisberger's accident.

http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_164115654.html

Does he have a motorcycle license in another state?? WTH? Don't tell me he could be that stupid!!??

[S.Taylor36]

Does he have a motorcycle license in another state?? WTH? Don't tell me he could be that stupid!!??

I'm sure he has another license but with all that was being made of this issue previous to the accident, you'd think he'd cover himself in Pennsylvania...but I guess not

[shally]

Does he have a motorcycle license in another state?? WTH? Don't tell me he could be that stupid!!??


most stores won't sell you a cycle without a valid license.--especially a racing bike. talk about a store's liability !!....it is like trying to buy a car without a valid driver's license

[downtowncharliebrown]

This was totally irresponsible by Big Ben.:banghead:

[Skinz4lyfe]

most stores won't sell you a cycle without a valid license.--especially a racing bike. talk about a store's liability !!....it is like trying to buy a car without a valid driver's license

Not only a car but a Lotus, Porsche, or (insert really fast car name here). Apparently his bike was the fastest on the market.

A side note, I sure would hate to be the lady who collided w/him. Fortunately, it sounds like he can make a full recovery. But if he isn't able to, can you say Steve Bartman?

[S.Taylor36]

Steelers | Roethlisberger reportedly without a Pa. motorcycle license
Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:59:46 -0700

KDKA.com reports Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger (head, knee) apparently does not possess a Pennsylvania motorcycle license. Sources say Roethlisberger does have a license to operate a car. City accident investigators are not commenting, but a confidential source told KDKA that a review of motor vehicle record in Harrisburg, Pa., shows he has never had a Pennsylvania motorcycle license. The source said he had a learner's permit that allowed him to ride a motorcycle, but the permit expired March 29.

Learner's permit, what is he doing?

[S.Taylor36]

Not only a car but a Lotus, Porsche, or (insert really fast car name here). Apparently his bike was the fastest on the market.

A side note, I sure would hate to be the lady who collided w/him. Fortunately, it sounds like he can make a full recovery. But if he isn't able to, can you say Steve Bartman?

I heard on Mike & Mike In The Morning that some Pittsburgh news papers printed her name and the area she lived in. I'd assume she'll be moving soon. I believe she was in her 60's.

[redskin_rich]

Learner's permit, what is he doing?
Learning.

First lesson learned-- wear a freakin' helmet!

[shally]

Steelers | Roethlisberger reportedly without a Pa. motorcycle license
Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:59:46 -0700

KDKA.com reports Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger (head, knee) apparently does not possess a Pennsylvania motorcycle license. Sources say Roethlisberger does have a license to operate a car. City accident investigators are not commenting, but a confidential source told KDKA that a review of motor vehicle record in Harrisburg, Pa., shows he has never had a Pennsylvania motorcycle license. The source said he had a learner's permit that allowed him to ride a motorcycle, but the permit expired March 29.

Learner's permit, what is he doing?


that's a hell of a bike to learn on.. like jumping out of a 747 for your first sky dive.. what an idiot !!

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Big Ben is looking more and more like a complete idiot with every press release that comes out...

[smoak]

I heard on Mike & Mike In The Morning that some Pittsburgh news papers printed her name and the area she lived in. I'd assume she'll be moving soon. I believe she was in her 60's.

That is really irresponsible journalism. It was a freakin's accident for goodness sake!! If I were her I'd just sit on the front lawn with a shotgun and "warn" intruders away with a few shots in their general direction. You know some moron will throw something through her window.

Big Ben, and only Ben is at fault here and he should immediately prepare a statement... of course it would have to be a written statememnt. :Peace:

[smoak]

most stores won't sell you a cycle without a valid license.--especially a racing bike. talk about a store's liability !!....it is like trying to buy a car without a valid driver's license

Actually, I think you can buy a car without a drivers license, right?? I know they take it when you go for a test drive, but I don't remember them taking it when I leased my second and third Wranglers?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

That is really irresponsible journalism. It was a freakin's accident for goodness sake!! If I were her I'd just sit on the front lawn with a shotgun and "warn" intruders away with a few shots in their general direction. You know some moron will throw something through her window.

Big Ben, and only Ben is at fault here and he should immediately prepare a statement... of course it would have to be a written statememnt. :Peace:
That is a sight I'd love to see..

[shally]

Actually, I think you can buy a car without a drivers license, right?? I know they take it when you go for a test drive, but I don't remember them taking it when I leased my second and third Wranglers?

they might get a little lax about a test drive (although every time i have been in years they take my license) but to buy it, i think it would be a lot tighter. many states require proof of insurance to buy, and there is the liability angle that if they sell you a car and you do not have a valid license the dealership is going to be hung out to dry if anything happens..

private sale ? sure, it could happen that way

[danny's stogie]

Just had this emailed to me: Big Ben's helmet on EBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005QQcategoryZ25211 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[redskin_rich]

Just had this emailed to me: Big Ben's helmet on EBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005QQcategoryZ25211 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
I don't do ebay but can someone tell me if people are really willing to pay $25 plus shipping on an empty box?

[S.Taylor36]

Just had this emailed to me: Big Ben's helmet on EBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005QQcategoryZ25211 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

That's pretty funny. Obviously nobody is buying it, but funny.

[danny's stogie]

I don't do ebay but can someone tell me if people are really willing to pay $25 plus shipping on an empty box?

There are currently over 30 bids.

[RedskinRyan]

Just had this emailed to me: Big Ben's helmet on EBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005QQcategoryZ25211 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

he truely is a box head

[Skinz4lyfe]

:lol1: That's freakin' hilarious!!

[RedskinRyan]

http://nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9494405

at the bottom of this article

"When the Ravens have the division's most stable quarterback situation, it tells how you quickly the league can change."

[hockeygoalie29]

That is really irresponsible journalism. It was a freakin's accident for goodness sake!! If I were her I'd just sit on the front lawn with a shotgun and "warn" intruders away with a few shots in their general direction. You know some moron will throw something through her window.

Big Ben, and only Ben is at fault here and he should immediately prepare a statement... of course it would have to be a written statememnt. :Peace:

I'm not too sure about that, apparently she was making a left hand turn across Ben's lane:

Roethlisberger was between radio interviews and on his black 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa -- a large, racing-style bike -- and heading toward an intersection on the edge of downtown. A silver Chrysler New Yorker traveling in the opposite direction took a left turn and collided with the motorcycle, and Roethlisberger was thrown, police said.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Just had this emailed to me: Big Ben's helmet on EBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8827899546QQihZ005QQcategoryZ25211 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
OMG... that's amazing.... over $100

Amazingly stupid IMO

[swheeler]

Apparently eBay just removed the listing. And just when I was winning!

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Apparently eBay just removed the listing. And just when I was winning!
Yeah..I imagined they would..you aren't allowed to sell nothing on ebay..

[danny's stogie]

Apparently eBay just removed the listing. And just when I was winning!

eBay = scrooge

What's wrong with selling boxes on ebay?

[InsomniaKiller]

When I checked out the link, it did say at the bottom of the listing that the money would actually go to some motorcycle safety awareness program or something like that.

Yesterday there were some parts that were supposedly from his motorcycle listed on EBay I hear that listing has been taken down as well.

So my guess would be that Ebay took it down not because there is something wrong with selling a box, but perhaps they deem it in poor taste? I don't know.

Only thing I've ever placed a bid for on Ebay were the Redskins Super Bowl games on DVD last year so I'm no expert!

[hail2skins]

I heard something on the radio but missed most of it. Did I hear that either Ben or the other driver was licensed?

[redskin_rich]

I heard something on the radio but missed most of it. Did I hear that either Ben or the other driver was licensed?
Ben had no motorcycle license, only a learners permit that had expired month's ago.

[guess88]

question is... does Ben have a motorcycle license in Ohio?

[redskin_rich]

question is... does Ben have a motorcycle license in Ohio?
I doubt it. I don't think he would have had to go through the learner phase in PA if that were the case. And I'm pretty sure his bike had PA tags.

[lakeskin]

Ben had no motorcycle license, only a learners permit that had expired month's ago.

He said he would wear a helmet if the law required it but he apperently feels he can drive without a license even though law requires that. It's all making sense to me now...

[budman]

link : : http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2484472

Updated: June 15, 2006, 9:40 AM ET
Big Ben released from hospital; jaw not wired shutAssociated Press


PITTSBURGH -- Ben Roethlisberger was released from a hospital late Wednesday night after spending more than two days recovering from facial injuries he sustained in a motorcycle accident.The Steelers quarterback left Mercy Hospital a little before midnight. It was unclear where he went, said team spokesman Dave Lockett.

On Wednesday afternoon, doctors said Roethlisberger's broken jaw did not have to be wired shut, a factor that could hasten his recovery from his scary motorcycle accident.Roethlisberger's doctors said a second round of tests again showed no brain injuries, although he has a concussion. Initial CT scans taken shortly after Roethlisberger's motorcycle collided with a car at a busy Pittsburgh intersection Monday morning also showed no apparent problems.

"The results of this second and final scan confirm our previous findings that Mr. Roethlisberger has suffered no brain injury," said Dr. Larry Jones, the chief of Mercy Hospital's trauma unit.His release was kept a secret from the Pittsburgh media, which has stationed reporters and cameras at the hospital each day. The hospital released a statement saying that it "respected the wishes and privacy of Mr. Roethlisberger and his family" by not confirming his discharge until about nine hours later.

[shally]

link : : http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2484472

Updated: June 15, 2006, 9:40 AM ET
Big Ben released from hospital; jaw not wired shutAssociated Press


PITTSBURGH -- Ben Roethlisberger was released from a hospital late Wednesday night after spending more than two days recovering from facial injuries he sustained in a motorcycle accident.The Steelers quarterback left Mercy Hospital a little before midnight. It was unclear where he went, said team spokesman Dave Lockett.

On Wednesday afternoon, doctors said Roethlisberger's broken jaw did not have to be wired shut, a factor that could hasten his recovery from his scary motorcycle accident.Roethlisberger's doctors said a second round of tests again showed no brain injuries, although he has a concussion. Initial CT scans taken shortly after Roethlisberger's motorcycle collided with a car at a busy Pittsburgh intersection Monday morning also showed no apparent problems.

"The results of this second and final scan confirm our previous findings that Mr. Roethlisberger has suffered no brain injury," said Dr. Larry Jones, the chief of Mercy Hospital's trauma unit.His release was kept a secret from the Pittsburgh media, which has stationed reporters and cameras at the hospital each day. The hospital released a statement saying that it "respected the wishes and privacy of Mr. Roethlisberger and his family" by not confirming his discharge until about nine hours later.

may be far luckier than even suspected..

[Fathead]

really lucky.


Perhaps the hit will help him grow a brain.

[dallasadmin]

It will be an expensive lesson too.

But while Roethlisberger won't have to be on a soup-only diet, he missed out on a $2 million Campbell's Chunky Soup commercial that began filming Wednesday at Heinz Field with other Steelers players. Roethlisberger and his stepmother, Brenda, were to have been the stars of the commercial.

From this article (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/15/D8I8L9TO0.html)

[shally]

It will be an expensive lesson too.



From this article (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/15/D8I8L9TO0.html)

maybe... don't think for a moment his legal team will not file suits against everybody and anybody to recover this lost income..

[smoak]

This is pathetic. Someone need to pound moronic Stiller fans into oblivion. Anyone with half a brain (which barely include Big Ben himself) knows it was an accident and Roethlisberger is the one truly at fault. He had not right being on the darned bike in the first friggin place let alone to be riding without a helment. What a genius! He really should publicly forgive her or make a statement so that the Neanderthal fans will leave her alone.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/cityregion/s_458766.html