Minicamp articles...{merged}

[skinfan43]

...care of the Washington Post.

My favorite quote comes from David Patten, once again, you gotta love his attitude:

"If I'm the fourth receiver, then that tells you how good we're going to be," Patten said.:awesomewo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/15/AR2006061501912.html

[Sweepea436]

I am SO cautiously optimistic!! Haha. Forgive me, it's not in my blood to feel good about our situation......... EVER:banghead: :lol1:

[skinfan43]

...care of the Washington Times - the W. Post beat you guys by an hour or so...sorry, LOL!

Article #2:

http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20060616-122157-7375r.htm

Article #3:

http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20060615-115855-7763r.htm

(BTW, please give us a video later today if possible, Redskins.com!)

[Santheb]

You're a freaking machine. Do you go Google and look up everything related to Redskins? lol. 25 articles on the first three pages, just crazy, lol.

these two articles were good though and good posting :)

[skinfan43]

You're a freaking machine. Do you go Google and look up everything related to Redskins? lol. 25 articles on the first three pages, just crazy, lol.

these two articles were good though and good posting :)
It's the offseason, and I'm an addict...gotta get my fix somehow, and I might as well drag everyone here down with me right?;)
Thanks for the props, pal!

[CarMike]

I'm beginning to smell football in the air! I cannot wait!

[joethefan]

I've been smelling football every since I got my dish....if I'm not doing anything for the church, or with family I'm watching the NFL Network or playing maddden or working out with my two son's.

[redwolf1218]

[QUOTE=skinfan43]...care of the Washington Post.

My favorite quote comes from David Patten, once again, you gotta love his attitude:

"If I'm the fourth receiver, then that tells you how good we're going to be," Patten said.

wasnt he the 3rd receiver in New England, behind Givens and Branch? if he's the 4th now, it really shows how much we've improved there.

[joethefan]

It's the offseason, and I'm an addict...gotta get my fix somehow, and I might as well drag everyone here down with me right?;)
Thanks for the props, pal!

Could you have put clinton on at least a $20.00....or a $100.00.LOL

[PennSkinsFan]

I think mini-camps are big for:

1. Jason Campbell. Campbell needs to show coaches in mini-camp that he can go into training camp in july with a strong or otherwise set spot of #2. Todd Collins knows this offense and there is no question if Brunell gets injured, Collins can step in and understand his role. BUT, the big question for the Redskins is the AMOUNT they gave to get Campbell and if the plan, according to media outlets is for a 2007 debut by Campbell, then it is imperative he make an impression and go into the end of July with coaches feeling pretty good about his grasp of the offense and his leadership.

2. Taylor Jacobs. This is it for Taylor. The Redskins have clearly moved on in different directions with the signings of Lloyd and Randle El. There is one spot open and Jacobs has a formidable if not impossible task. If he wasn't to make the roster, he must beat out James Thrash. Is that really realistic, considering how much JG loves Thrash and considering how important Thrash is to Danny Smith's unit?

3. Chris Clemons. The small injury to Rocky McIntosh should be an igniter for Chris Clemons. Clemonms has done evertyhing asked of him before his injury. Redskins needed a pass rusher, Clemons provided it. Problem here....Clemons needs to prove he is more than just that. He needs to show he is an every down LB.

fianlly

4. John Hall. Are we all really convinced that Hall has a lock on the job? Not me. We have a young kicker in camp and I don't think the Redskins are going to just hand Hall the job, if he is out kicked, he will be gone. This will be interesting to watch.


Yes, there are much more, but these are the 4 that personally interest me.

[FanFromArizona]

I think mini-camps are big for:

1. Jason Campbell. Campbell needs to show coaches in mini-camp that he can go into training camp in july with a strong or otherwise set spot of #2. Todd Collins knows this offense and there is no question if Brunell gets injured, Collins can step in and understand his role. BUT, the big question for the Redskins is the AMOUNT they gave to get Campbell and if the plan, according to media outlets is for a 2007 debut by Campbell, then it is imperative he make an impression and go into the end of July with coaches feeling pretty good about his grasp of the offense and his leadership.

2. Taylor Jacobs. This is it for Taylor. The Redskins have clearly moved on in different directions with the signings of Lloyd and Randle El. There is one spot open and Jacobs has a formidable if not impossible task. If he wasn't to make the roster, he must beat out James Thrash. Is that really realistic, considering how much JG loves Thrash and considering how important Thrash is to Danny Smith's unit?

3. Chris Clemons. The small injury to Rocky McIntosh should be an igniter for Chris Clemons. Clemonms has done evertyhing asked of him before his injury. Redskins needed a pass rusher, Clemons provided it. Problem here....Clemons needs to prove he is more than just that. He needs to show he is an every down LB.

fianlly

4. John Hall. Are we all really convinced that Hall has a lock on the job? Not me. We have a young kicker in camp and I don't think the Redskins are going to just hand Hall the job, if he is out kicked, he will be gone. This will be interesting to watch.


Yes, there are much more, but these are the 4 that personally interest me.

Of these 4 you list, Chris Clemons vs Rocky McIntosh is the one that interests me the most. They both are young, Chris was explosive last year and Rocky is probably the more versatile of the two. I think we will see GW use each of them in packages that accentuate their strengths.

Obviously JC is going to make the team, it will be fun to watch the progress he has made, but the competition just won't be there. I give this 2nd place from a viewing standpoint.

I am going to state that I don't care about watching John Hall because in the end the only three people who are going to decide his fate are himself, Joe Gibbs, and Danny Smith. I was disappointed to see him at the end of the weight room video on redskins.com.

TJ? He's gone. Didn't cut it so will be cut.

[redskinz#1fan]

Good article! I think that Patten will have a huge year for us. He has a lot to prove, because of last years performance. He doesn't seem like one of those guys that would sit back and make excuses for anything, so I think he will dig down extra deep and show us why we picked him up!

[Torresa]

FYI I hear the NFL network supposed to talk about Skins training camp tonight..

[skinfan43]

Could you have put clinton on at least a $20.00....or a $100.00.LOL
Believe me JTF, I considered it, (put him on a hundred and then it would really be a "C-note", LOL!) but I thought it would piss off "Dolla' Bill"...:D

[bgforever]

That was a very optimistic article, with an eye for us having confidence in this team. I can't wait :)

Thanks again, magic man!

[skinfan43]

That was a very optimistic article, with an eye for us having confidence in this team. I can't wait :)

Thanks again, magic man!
You're certainly welcome, BGF! Unlike some, I appreciate good, well-researched press - just like I despise inaccurate, "hater" press.

[shally]

[QUOTE=skinfan43]...care of the Washington Post.

My favorite quote comes from David Patten, once again, you gotta love his attitude:

"If I'm the fourth receiver, then that tells you how good we're going to be," Patten said.

wasnt he the 3rd receiver in New England, behind Givens and Branch? if he's the 4th now, it really shows how much we've improved there.

that says a lot and for those who thought he was a throw away, think again..

[chrisbcbu]

Heads up! the show will air at 7pm tonight.

[PA Skins Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[Ibleedburgundy]

Damn you basic cable! Damn you to hell!

[Torresa]

yea I said this in another thread .. but i can't create threads yet :(

[Skinz4lyfe]

Cool!! I will be sure to catch it tonight after work! I can't wait!

[smoak]

yea I said this in another thread .. but i can't create threads yet :(

Sure you can. If you have something that is "thread worthy" just send it to a Mod, Admin, Owner or even a very experienced member. Someone will post it for you until you hit the required number of posts, which I believe is still 50 (not sure if it was changed). This gives new members a chance to get a feel for the uniquness of HR before they can post and prevents us from having to edit/move/delete threads.

[redskinz#1fan]

Campbell is what I'm interested in. He may be battling for the #2 spot, but it could end up being a lot more then that. Brunell will be 36 this year and he had a bad run with injuries last year. He has started off the off-season with a messed up finger (I know it's not suppose to be serious, but...), so depending on how Brunell maintains himself this year (as far as injuries) then the back up may be called on to "do the do"! I hope that JC puts any worries or concerns that we or the coaching staff may have about his play or readiness to rest, so if his number is called we'll know that were in good hands (no pun intended)!

[redskinz#1fan]

I guess I will have to leave work early today, because I won't be missing that!

[shally]

...care of the Washington Times - the W. Post beat you guys by an hour or so...sorry, LOL!

Article #2:

http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20060616-122157-7375r.htm

Article #3:

http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20060615-115855-7763r.htm

(BTW, please give us a video later today if possible, Redskins.com!)

good stuff here.... the excitment is starting to build.. i can't wait..

[whistleandthumb]

Thanks, matey. I'll definitely be firin' up the ol' TiVo!!

[smittyskin]

Is that 7pm eastern time?

[joethefan]

I hope they show some decent stuff....hopefully we'll get some good coverage...

[AliBabba]

You're a freaking machine. Do you go Google and look up everything related to Redskins? lol. 25 articles on the first three pages, just crazy, lol.

these two articles were good though and good posting :)

If you have an ESPN Insider Account it gives you new articles in all the major newspapers every day.

Although, thanks to skinfan43 I may not need my account anymore, I may just cancel.

[AliBabba]

http://washingtontimes.com/sports/20060615-115855-7763r.htm

you think this Ryan O'Halloran has been reading hR?

These questions are right on, and the things we've been talking all offseason.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Could you have put clinton on at least a $20.00....or a $100.00.LOL
its ok E, at least one dollar is equivalent to 4 quarters. :D

[chrisbcbu]

Is that 7pm eastern time?

Ya sorry. it is 7pm est.

[Torresa]

Is that 7pm eastern time?


is there another time zone?? j/k

[becky]

Thanks for the heads up! I noticed they were doing other teams, so I was wondering when they would do us.

[IowaSkinsFan]

is there another time zone?? j/k

Sure there is, the right one, CST!

[Torresa]

Sure there is, the right one, CST!

Actually that's the 2nd to the right one ;)

[S.Taylor36]

Damn you basic cable! Damn you to hell!

I couldn't have said it better.

[shally]

Actually that's the 2nd to the right one ;)

yes... unfortunately i am stuck in the left-pacific time zone..
:lol1:

[S.Taylor36]

I think mini-camps are big for:

1. Jason Campbell. Campbell needs to show coaches in mini-camp that he can go into training camp in july with a strong or otherwise set spot of #2. Todd Collins knows this offense and there is no question if Brunell gets injured, Collins can step in and understand his role. BUT, the big question for the Redskins is the AMOUNT they gave to get Campbell and if the plan, according to media outlets is for a 2007 debut by Campbell, then it is imperative he make an impression and go into the end of July with coaches feeling pretty good about his grasp of the offense and his leadership.

2. Taylor Jacobs. This is it for Taylor. The Redskins have clearly moved on in different directions with the signings of Lloyd and Randle El. There is one spot open and Jacobs has a formidable if not impossible task. If he wasn't to make the roster, he must beat out James Thrash. Is that really realistic, considering how much JG loves Thrash and considering how important Thrash is to Danny Smith's unit?

3. Chris Clemons. The small injury to Rocky McIntosh should be an igniter for Chris Clemons. Clemonms has done evertyhing asked of him before his injury. Redskins needed a pass rusher, Clemons provided it. Problem here....Clemons needs to prove he is more than just that. He needs to show he is an every down LB.

fianlly

4. John Hall. Are we all really convinced that Hall has a lock on the job? Not me. We have a young kicker in camp and I don't think the Redskins are going to just hand Hall the job, if he is out kicked, he will be gone. This will be interesting to watch.


Yes, there are much more, but these are the 4 that personally interest me.

I agree with all of this but I'm tired of Taylor Jacobs. To me he's already gone. He had his shot and has never produced. He's a Spurrier guy and his play shows it.

[skinfan43]

its ok E, at least one dollar is equivalent to 4 quarters. :D
Nice...;)
May I add 4 hard-earned quarters...

[shally]

I agree with all of this but I'm tired of Taylor Jacobs. To me he's already gone. He had his shot and has never produced. He's a Spurrier guy and his play shows it.

i think this is also a huge opportunity for the back up offensive linemen--especially molinaro, alston, lofuto and anyone else who can present himself as a legitimate backup tackle. right now there is no clear #3 tackle and that issue must be resolved before the season. one of these guys is going to have to step forward or else we could see a vet free agent brought in prior to camp in july..

[Torresa]

I forgot to see it earlier.. but Total Access is on re-run right now... So tune in.

[PA Skins Girl]

I forgot to see it earlier.. but Total Access is on re-run right now... So tune in.
Thanks! I missed it earlier too so I'll go see if I can catch it now.

[Torresa]

Pretty good review...

The questions... (Rod Woodson)
1) Will everyone get in sync with the new plays and new offense.
2) Who is #2 QB, if Brunnell weakens at the end of the year
3) Who takes Lavar "the playmaker" place. (but said we got lots of good pick ups and all)

[PA Skins Girl]

Yeah, Woodson was pretty complimentary about our off season moves but wonders is Brunell has enough left in the tank.

[Torresa]

Yeah, Woodson was pretty complimentary about our off season moves but wonders is Brunell has enough left in the tank.

No one ever asks the same of Bledsoe... They came in the NFL together I believe

[PA Skins Girl]

No one ever asks the same of Bledsoe... They came in the NFL together I believe
You're right. They came in the same year but Brunell is a year and a half older than Bledsoe. Favre is a year older than Brunell though.

[828791Redskins]

Pretty good review...

The questions... (Rod Woodson)
1) Will everyone get in sync with the new plays and new offense.
2) Who is #2 QB, if Brunnell weakens at the end of the year
3) Who takes Lavar "the playmaker" place. (but said we got lots of good pick ups and all)

When was the last time he was "THE" playmaker on this team. We have plenty on the defensive side over the past few years, not to mention our pickups.

[shally]

You're right. They came in the same year but Brunell is a year and a half older than Bledsoe. Favre is a year older than Brunell though.

i think because of all the running that brunell did early in his career, he has taken a lot more beatings than bledsoe, although over the past several years bledsoe has gotten hit a whole lot..

[skinfan43]

Says Tandler of Warpath.com.

http://redskins.scout.com/2/540282.html

Man, this is just the head on top of the beer!!! I WANT THE WHOLE GLASS!:) Good stuff about Lloyd and Lonie so far!

[chrisbcbu]

You're right. They came in the same year but Brunell is a year and a half older than Bledsoe. Favre is a year older than Brunell though.

Woodson did make Bledsoe one of the top 5 easiest QBs to intercept tho! LOL

[redwolf1218]

When was the last time he was "THE" playmaker on this team. We have plenty on the defensive side over the past few years, not to mention our pickups.
true, if replacing Lavar is one of our 3 biggest problems then we should be fine, considering he has been a non-factor since 3 years ago.

Collins and Campbell are cabable backups.

everyone getting in sync with the new playbook (as well as the new additions meshing with their new team-mates) is the biggest dilemma IMO, but of course the coaches and players will be aware of it and work to solve it early.

[redwolf1218]

quotes:

If you’re looking for a small edge in the punter competition between the two, give it to Lonie. If he can handle the holding duties, that’s one more reason for Smith to give the incumbent Frost the boot (so to speak).

If you believe that there is a competition for the final receiver spot between David Patten and Taylor Jacobs, you’d have to say that Jacobs had the edge today. Jacobs consistently was getting open and caught nearly everything thrown near him while Patten was hot and cold. Of course, in his three previous seasons in the NFL Jacobs has shown a great knack for looking good from June through early August and then getting hurt and/or becoming ineffective when the real games started. There’s no doubt that the coaches will think long and hard about that history.

[NamVet4]

Special teams coach Danny Smith was as fired up as anyone, yelling about an illegal block during a punting drill. A bit later on he became much quieter as he keenly watched David Lonie and then Derrick Frost field simulated taking field goal snaps from a JUGS machine. In the dozen or so time each of them handled a snap they were both up to the standard of an NFL holder, meaning that they were flawless. If you’re looking for a small edge in the punter competition between the two, give it to Lonie. If he can handle the holding duties, that’s one more reason for Smith to give the incumbent Frost the boot (so to speak
ST - still critical... I am still not convinced our Beloved Team will be able to make it to the post season; if it comes down to the special teams play! :( The ST must step up 100% over last year.....

[GoDannyBoy]

ST - still critical... I am still not convinced our Beloved Team will be able to make it to the post season; if it comes down to the special teams play! :( The ST must step up 100% over last year.....

I thought teams were much better last year. No holding my breath on punt or kick coverage. A better punter and kicker and I think we would have been great. But that is half the battle.

I am crossing my fingers that the kicking game will be better this year.

[GoDannyBoy]

I still wouldn't trust Jacobs to show up in games. Where was he last year when we really needed him. Santana step his game to a new level, too bad he was the WR last year to do that.

At least we have some new blood this year. Time to move on with Jacobs.

[redwolf1218]

it sounds like they want to see if Lonie can be the holder for field goals. i would be bummed if Frost makes it for holding if Lonie is a better punter. i want to see what Lonie can do on kickoffs too.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I thought that review was antilclimatic.....but I was not surprised, Joe isn't going to let the cameras see anything that can be used against him by other teams for strategy.

[Torresa]

Is it september yet.... :inkston:

[IowaSkinsFan]

The only thing we gain by keeping Jacobs over Patten is another special teamer, something at which Jacobs is clearly better at than Patten. That is where the list starts and ends though, IMO.

[FanFromArizona]

Is it september yet....


No, :cry:

are we there yet? :banghead:

[FanFromArizona]

Woodson did make Bledsoe one of the top 5 easiest QBs to intercept tho! LOL


That is why the Cowboys will stink up the East:

Bad Oline protection will lead to pressure passes from Bledsoe. He has NO mobility and will just lob it up. Thankfully he will have TO to save him, but to our advantage Sean will be able to jump right up there with TO for the ball.

The Cowboys ability to go deep into the playoffs will rest entirely upon Bledsoe's TD to INT ratio.

[Torresa]

That is why the Cowboys will stink up the East:

Bad Oline protection will lead to pressure passes from Bledsoe. He has NO mobility and will just lob it up. Thankfully he will have TO to save him, but to our advantage Sean will be able to jump right up there with TO for the ball.

The Cowboys ability to go deep into the playoffs will rest entirely upon Bledsoe's TD to INT ratio.


And Archuleta... by the 2nd game, TO going over the middle will look like Terry Glenn :lol1:

[redskinz#1fan]

I still haven't been able to watch the interview. I got stuck late at work last night, got home tried watching the re-run and something else came up (or should I say came over) so Imissed it then too! I tried watching it this morning before going to work, but I must have missed our clip when I was in the shower. Did they show any coverage, or was it just kinda of watered down?

[chrisbcbu]

They had an interview with Gibbs and Taylor and showed some clips of Saunders running around the practice field.

then Woodson gave his analysis of the Skins and talked about our additions.

[shally]

I thought teams were much better last year. No holding my breath on punt or kick coverage. A better punter and kicker and I think we would have been great. But that is half the battle.

I am crossing my fingers that the kicking game will be better this year.

totally agree !!! in fact, had the coverage not been superb, the short kickoffs and punts would have been lethal... the coverage was tough all year. if we can get better depth on those kicks and punts , the special teams will be a total asset this coming year

[HanburgerBum]

I still haven't been able to watch the interview. I got stuck late at work last night, got home tried watching the re-run and something else came up (or should I say came over) so Imissed it then too! I tried watching it this morning before going to work, but I must have missed our clip when I was in the shower. Did they show any coverage, or was it just kinda of watered down?


It seemed that the whole segment lasted only about 5 minutes. Very little action shown, just a few WR running routes. But, to someone who is starved for some NFL football like myself, it was still great to watch.

By the way, how can the World Cup, an event ballyhooed as the top sporting occurrence in the universe, be this boring? There are more 1-0 and 0-0 final scores than any other score. And, the games apparently have a lead-changing percentage of of less than 10. Think what that means. It means that once the first goal is scored, the game is basically over. How can so many people think of this sport as entertainment? I literally would rather watch grass grow.

[GoDannyBoy]

Maybe the Aussie works out, but it is a long shot. Hopefully we don't have to punt very often!:)

[Slobberknocker]

By the way, how can the World Cup, an event ballyhooed as the top sporting occurrence in the universe, be this boring? There are more 1-0 and 0-0 final scores than any other score. And, the games apparently have a lead-changing percentage of of less than 10. Think what that means. It means that once the first goal is scored, the game is basically over. How can so many people think of this sport as entertainment? I literally would rather watch grass grow.

It's like anything else, the more you know about the game and the matchups, the more fun it is to watch. Half my friends are European, so I watch a lot more soccer than normal people and yes, Virginia, it gets pretty exciting. Think of it this way -- hasn't a girlfriend/wife somewhere in most guys' lives hated football? But you knew that if you could only get them into it, they'd be as excited as you are (well, close)? Americans hate soccer because we just watch the ball and like scores. But the action is actually all over the field and the 0-0 between Sweeden and Trinidad was the talk of Europe... David fighting Goliath to a bloody standstill, even though Sweeden had far more shots on goal.

Ball movement, defense, combination scoring opportunities... a LOT is actually happening. When Germany scored in penalty time to win 1-0, girls were dancing on cars in Berlin. I have phone pics to prove it.

Look -- a billion people, guys especially, wouldn't be into it if it were as boring as most Americans think. I grew up on baseball and now I think that's worse than shopping with my wife.

Now I'm Tivo-ing soccer all the time. It just grows on you. And it gives you something to talk about when half your friends are from England, Germany and France...

Hail!

[bgforever]

That is why the Cowboys will stink up the East:

Bad Oline protection will lead to pressure passes from Bledsoe. He has NO mobility and will just lob it up. Thankfully he will have TO to save him, but to our advantage Sean will be able to jump right up there with TO for the ball.

The Cowboys ability to go deep into the playoffs will rest entirely upon Bledsoe's TD to INT ratio.


TD=Tsk, tsk,

INT ratio = unIntellectual ranting from somone else, now I wonder who that could be?

[bgforever]

It's like anything else, the more you know about the game and the matchups, the more fun it is to watch. Half my friends are European, so I watch a lot more soccer than normal people and yes, Virginia, it gets pretty exciting. Think of it this way -- hasn't a girlfriend/wife somewhere in most guys' lives hated football? But you knew that if you could only get them into it, they'd be as excited as you are (well, close)? Americans hate soccer because we just watch the ball and like scores. But the action is actually all over the field and the 0-0 between Sweeden and Trinidad was the talk of Europe... David fighting Goliath to a bloody standstill, even though Sweeden had far more shots on goal.

Ball movement, defense, combination scoring opportunities... a LOT is actually happening. When Germany scored in penalty time to win 1-0, girls were dancing on cars in Berlin. I have phone pics to prove it.

Look -- a billion people, guys especially, wouldn't be into it if it were as boring as most Americans think. I grew up on baseball and now I think that's worse than shopping with my wife.

Now I'm Tivo-ing soccer all the time. It just grows on you. And it gives you something to talk about when half your friends are from England, Germany and France...

Hail!

although I had only learned baby basics of this game, I have NEVER given up my little interest. Sparks turn into flames. I get to see them playing REGIONAL state games because of where I pick my wife up at work. There are about 20 soccer fields, including something just short of HS sized stadium area for the older kids and even adults. We only drive by them, since they are so many and are usually in a rush to get her home. When I went to the store afterwards, I found myself listening to the soccer enthusiasts all over the place. It is growing!

I was in a traffic jam, this morning from it and add that to tonight and tommorow with Herbie Hancock and Sunday with the Aaron Neville and the Neville Brothers, and a huge list of local jazz performers downtown and it makes the games even more greater!

[HanburgerBum]

It's like anything else, the more you know about the game and the matchups, the more fun it is to watch. Half my friends are European, so I watch a lot more soccer than normal people and yes, Virginia, it gets pretty exciting. Think of it this way -- hasn't a girlfriend/wife somewhere in most guys' lives hated football? But you knew that if you could only get them into it, they'd be as excited as you are (well, close)? Americans hate soccer because we just watch the ball and like scores. But the action is actually all over the field and the 0-0 between Sweeden and Trinidad was the talk of Europe... David fighting Goliath to a bloody standstill, even though Sweeden had far more shots on goal.

Ball movement, defense, combination scoring opportunities... a LOT is actually happening. When Germany scored in penalty time to win 1-0, girls were dancing on cars in Berlin. I have phone pics to prove it.

Look -- a billion people, guys especially, wouldn't be into it if it were as boring as most Americans think. I grew up on baseball and now I think that's worse than shopping with my wife.

Now I'm Tivo-ing soccer all the time. It just grows on you. And it gives you something to talk about when half your friends are from England, Germany and France...

Hail!


Sorry, Slobber and BGForever, I am on the opposite end of the universe from you guys. I grew up in Asia playing soccer, and it is a fun game to play. But to watch, barf!

I don't give a crap about all the suppose action away from the ball. I just can not get interested in a game when there is virtually no lead changes. Lead changes are absolutely essential for generating excitement.

And, I have heard now for over 20 years how kids playing soccer will grow up and become fans. Where are they? You mark my word, soccer will NEVER be a major sport in this country.

[shally]

And Archuleta... by the 2nd game, TO going over the middle will look like Terry Glenn :lol1:

i detest TO's personality.. but give the devil his due.. he has a warrior's mentality and will not back down from anyone.. the skins will pound him thoroughly, but he will get his catches. they need to get after bledsoe because that is where the game will be won.. he will put the ball up for grabs.

[tbfoster1]

The video is up on www.nfl.com (http://www.nfl.com)

[Red Bear]

why are yall talking about soccer in here? *pukes*

[bgforever]

Sorry, Slobber and BGForever, I am on the opposite end of the universe from you guys. I grew up in Asia playing soccer, and it is a fun game to play. But to watch, barf!

I don't give a crap about all the suppose action away from the ball. I just can not get interested in a game when there is virtually no lead changes. Lead changes are absolutely essential for generating excitement.

And, I have heard now for over 20 years how kids playing soccer will grow up and become fans. Where are they? You mark my word, soccer will NEVER be a major sport in this country.

I see your point in the fan perspective and "viewing". Far and away, though it is absolutely good for the kids, when playing it, as you stated. I guess you could say its a view most come to expect. It does seem to have people "grow" out of it, like myself. After I stopped playing it, back in Jr. High School age, I never looked back and focused on football, some basketball and baseball.

[redskinz#1fan]

This is very good news! I'm really glad that our boys are out on the field competing & practicing at a very high level. This goes back to the Jansen interview where he said anything less then 16-0 and a run at the superbowl would be considered a failure! Patten will step it up & make sure that we no longer have to waste a spot of a good TC player (Jacobs).

[HanburgerBum]

quotes:

If you’re looking for a small edge in the punter competition between the two, give it to Lonie. If he can handle the holding duties, that’s one more reason for Smith to give the incumbent Frost the boot (so to speak).

If you believe that there is a competition for the final receiver spot between David Patten and Taylor Jacobs, you’d have to say that Jacobs had the edge today. Jacobs consistently was getting open and caught nearly everything thrown near him while Patten was hot and cold. Of course, in his three previous seasons in the NFL Jacobs has shown a great knack for looking good from June through early August and then getting hurt and/or becoming ineffective when the real games started. There’s no doubt that the coaches will think long and hard about that history.


I am getting that Gus Ferrotte urge to bang my head against the wall again. Taylor Jacobs doing well in minicamp. You just know he is going to be the star in training camp and probably preseason games too. What do the coaches do with him then? You know how coaches hate to release someone who may later become a good player for another team.

[HanburgerBum]

I see your point in the fan perspective and "viewing". Far and away, though it is absolutely good for the kids, when playing it, as you stated. I guess you could say its a view most come to expect. It does seem to have people "grow" out of it, like myself. After I stopped playing it, back in Jr. High School age, I never looked back and focused on football, some basketball and baseball.


You are the typical American soccer player. You play the game in your youth, but you don't watch it when you grow older.

By the way, I like the picture of my namesake and favorite Redskins player of all time. Do you know where he lives and what he is doing these days?

[bgforever]

You are the typical American soccer player. You play the game in your youth, but you don't watch it when you grow older.

By the way, I like the picture of my namesake and favorite Redskins player of all time. Do you know where he lives and what he is doing these days?


True :) Hanburger signing thread (I believe it was at the VA Beach Blitz, or the one with Jurgenson and Huff). I will check, be back in a second.

**It was a person affiliated with a sale of the Chris Hanburger estate. He was selling his home and stable, etc.

[shally]

I am getting that Gus Ferrotte urge to bang my head against the wall again. Taylor Jacobs doing well in minicamp. You just know he is going to be the star in training camp and probably preseason games too. What do the coaches do with him then? You know how coaches hate to release someone who may later become a good player for another team.

that is a real risk.. if jacobs is stellar in camp and preseason AND he plays decent special teams, my guess is that he will make the team, again..
i know.. i know... how do you keep thrash over a guy who clearly out plays him ? (it is no given, i am just musing and making a point) or even patten ?

we will have a solid receiver group no matter who the number 4 and 5 guys are. so we just have to trust the coaches on this matter.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Threads merged.

[Red Bear]

Threads merged.

thanks, i missed an important thread due to the clutter of every news article for every day getting posted in its own thread even if there was already a thread related to the subject. the owners didnt appreciate me missing that thread either, so yeah. good job.

[shally]

thanks, i missed an important thread due to the clutter of every news article for every day getting posted in its own thread even if there was already a thread related to the subject. the owners didnt appreciate me missing that thread either, so yeah. good job.

mini camp is now officially over as reported by redskins.com.. no reported injuries, thank God..

next step is training camp...

[skinfan43]

mini camp is now officially over as reported by redskins.com.. no reported injuries, thank God..

next step is training camp...
Man, shally, I hardly thought about that...you're right...no knees torn up, achilles' ruptured, or any other major setbacks...Thank God is right!!

No doubt health needs to be our ally this season, not our enemy, for us to accomplish what we're setting out to do.

[shally]

Man, shally, I hardly thought about that...you're right...no knees torn up, achilles' ruptured, or any other major setbacks...Thank God is right!!

No doubt health needs to be our ally this season, not our enemy, for us to accomplish what we're setting out to do.

you look at teams that go to the superbowl and most of the time, they do not have critical injuries to their players-- or the injuries happen early enough in the season that the team can pull together and overcome them.

injuries are a part of football.. but some teams do better than others in that regard

[tommahawk]

you look at teams that go to the superbowl and most of the time, they do not have critical injuries to their players-- or the injuries happen early enough in the season that the team can pull together and overcome them.

injuries are a part of football.. but some teams do better than others in that regard

Thats why I loved this statement by Gibbs

On the off-season progress of David Patten (WR, #80):
"He was roaring. I think he took to the competition. I love his attitude, I called him when we made our trade and draft choice and he was great. All he wanted to know was that we're going to play the best guy and he talks to me all the time about how in New England, they had a studly four guys up there and he said that they were a great part of the football team. Nobody was selfish or worrying about things and they just wanted to play. I think David's got that attitude, he's a great person and I think he wants to play and do great things. Last year he was a good example of what happened to us because I think he played for about four weeks with a meniscus that was bothering him. Finally after the regular season he came to us and said there was something that needed to be fixed. Certainly now he looks totally different than he did in those last three or four weeks that he was playing."


http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=17864

This attitude has been missing and I am glad it is back. Injuries won't mean as much say if Santana got hurt for a spell..Beacause when it is about team and not individuallality the game becomes a lot easier.

[PennSkinsFan]

http://www.examiner.com/a-153821~Waiting_on_July__Redskins_finish_final_mini camp.html

Good article. Few things i really like

Running back Ladell Betts received much praise from coaches, particularly Saunders, for how he looked — and has looked the entire offseason. Saunders wants to get Betts and Clinton Portis on the field simultaneously. Both players can be used in the passing game, from a slot position or in the backfield

Good to hear. I have been askign this since Portis arrived in DC. I would love to see offensive sets with both Portis and Betts in the backfield together. It will be effective and help open the passing game even more, considering defenses will have to deal with both. I am a HUGE fan of Saunders bringign back the Fullback to the offense, but for me, this is the singl ebiggest change I have heard abotu so far. Both Portis and Betts in the backfield, woooohoooo!

[Dolla Bill]

http://www.examiner.com/a-153821~Waiting_on_July__Redskins_finish_final_mini camp.html

Good article. Few things i really like



Good to hear. I have been askign this since Portis arrived in DC. I would love to see offensive sets with both Portis and Betts in the backfield together. It will be effective and help open the passing game even more, considering defenses will have to deal with both. I am a HUGE fan of Saunders bringign back the Fullback to the offense, but for me, this is the singl ebiggest change I have heard abotu so far. Both Portis and Betts in the backfield, woooohoooo!


This is just a wild scenario. What if the coaching staff is raving about Betts to get his stock up? If Saunders and Gibbs praise him, these two are highly respected about talent evaluation, and then someone comes in with an offer for Betts? Just more of a thought or concern.

[redskinz#1fan]

On the off-season progress of David Patten (WR, #80):
"He was roaring. I think he took to the competition. I love his attitude, I called him when we made our trade and draft choice and he was great. All he wanted to know was that we're going to play the best guy and he talks to me all the time about how in New England, they had a studly four guys up there and he said that they were a great part of the football team. Nobody was selfish or worrying about things and they just wanted to play. I think David's got that attitude, he's a great person and I think he wants to play and do great things. Last year he was a good example of what happened to us because I think he played for about four weeks with a meniscus that was bothering him. Finally after the regular season he came to us and said there was something that needed to be fixed. Certainly now he looks totally different than he did in those last three or four weeks that he was playing."

I've said it before & I'll say it again, Patten is going to have a big year for us this year. He's not going to put up real big numbers (stats), but the numbers that he does put up will lead to big things for this team. He will probably be the best 4th WR in the league.

[shally]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, Patten is going to have a big year for us this year. He's not going to put up real big numbers (stats), but the numbers that he does put up will lead to big things for this team. He will probably be the best 4th WR in the league.

agreed.. it is hard to imagine any team having a better #4 receiver than patten..

[sacto49erfan]

Im actually just a bored niner fan whos checking in to see how Lloyd and Carter has been doing in your guy's ota's?

[DCassain21]

i like patten's atttude seem's like he's saying the right things to stay in the team

[redwolf1218]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, Patten is going to have a big year for us this year. He's not going to put up real big numbers (stats), but the numbers that he does put up will lead to big things for this team. He will probably be the best 4th WR in the league.
that is pretty much what he was in New England, and he's being paid like the best 4th receiver in the league, so i would expect nothing less. i dont think he's a legitimate #1 or 2 starter, but as the 3rd or 4th guy he should be able to beat the guy covering him. same goes for Thrash IMO. he didnt do too great in Philly as a starter, but he can make some tough catches as the 3rd or 4th guy out there.

[redwolf1218]

Im actually just a bored niner fan whos checking in to see how Lloyd and Carter has been doing in your guy's ota's?
they have both been getting some high praise from the coaches and in the various articles from redskins.com and the washington post and times newspapers.