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skinfan43
06-17-2006, 01:57 AM
O'Halloran article from W. Times...

http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20060617-120100-4927r

The Skins seem to be interested in Jacobs' producing up to his ability while staying healthy this preseason:

Jacobs could have been released on June 1, but he said the Redskins told his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, they wanted to keep him.
"They told him they want to see me reach my potential and hopefully this year, I'll do that," Jacobs said.

Campbell progressing well and assured of extensive playing time:

"He looked good out there," coach Joe Gibbs said of Campbell. "He's had extra work and been here for every workout. Last year was a big learning curve and this year, some of the terminology is new, but he's worked extremely hard. He's going to play a ton in the preseason."

Jansen "feels great":

And Jansen is in the final stages of recovery from thumb surgery.
Describing his operation, Jansen said, "They had to basically repair the whole joint. They put some hardware in, lined things up and repositioned some things. It was a little involved, but it feels great now."

Rabach had a skin graft on his leg two weeks ago, and defends ATV accident in March:

Earlier this spring, Rabach suffered a major gash on his leg when his four-wheel overturned.
"Not even close in similarity," Rabach said of his and Roethlisberger's accidents. "I was doing yard work. I wasn't joy riding or goofing around."
(Is Dockery our only lineman NOT to have any surgery this offseason?)

Good reporting, Ryan O'Halloran!!:awesomewo

redwolf1218
06-17-2006, 06:44 AM
i am getting the feeling that Jacobs is going to make it and the final battle will be between Thrash and Patten.

NamVet4
06-17-2006, 06:59 AM
Jacobs is like a brand new penny... Looks great when you first see it and then it just dulls up over time. Jacobs has been the shinny new penny in every preseason and a lackluster dull cent in the regular season.

smoak
06-17-2006, 07:05 AM
Jacobs is like a brand new penny... Looks great when you first see it and then it just dulls up over time. Jacobs has been the shinny new penny in every preseason and a lackluster dull cent in the regular season.

I agree, but I'd even take a step furhter and say that he is "shiny" in camp and practice. How much has he really done in preseason any way? Does anyone remember any big plays from him?

(Is Dockery our only lineman NOT to have any surgery this offseason?)

Yes and IMO this is our biggest concern with Brunell/QB situation being second. I keep hearing "Yeah but Brunell is your QB", but I gotta tell you, the lack of depth on the O-line scares the pants out of me.

redwolf1218
06-17-2006, 07:10 AM
i cant understand Jacobs. Champ Bailey said he was the best receiver on the team. Patten was quoted as saying he should be starting.

AliBabba
06-17-2006, 08:12 AM
i am getting the feeling that Jacobs is going to make it and the final battle will be between Thrash and Patten.

I don't. Patten is a better receiver and Thrash is a better team player because of his ST contributions. Jacobs needs to have an outstanding preseason to lock up a receiver slot over either of them. Especially Patten, I really don't see Gibbs dumping him after only half a season, especially with the premature IR decision and all.

Yes and IMO this is our biggest concern with Brunell/QB situation being second. I keep hearing "Yeah but Brunell is your QB", but I gotta tell you, the lack of depth on the O-line scares the pants out of me.

Couldn't agree with you more. I keep hearing people talking about how old Brunell is too, but I just think about the line. We have great depth at most positions, but not oline and not for the defensive backs, although safety is improving. Hopefully nobody gets hurt and we don't need anything from a Jim Molinaro type, I think that great teams get contributions from unexpected places.

redwolf1218
06-17-2006, 08:39 AM
I don't. Patten is a better receiver and Thrash is a better team player because of his ST contributions. Jacobs needs to have an outstanding preseason to lock up a receiver slot over either of them. Especially Patten, I really don't see Gibbs dumping him after only half a season, especially with the premature IR decision and all.


The history with Jacobs shows that he probably will have an outstanding preseason.

does anyone know how many receivers the Chiefs kept on the regular season roster last year?

IowaSkinsFan
06-17-2006, 08:41 AM
The only thing that Jacobs has going for him right now is that he plays ST's and Patten does not. Other than that, Patten runs better routes and gets better separation than Jacobs.

shally
06-17-2006, 01:59 PM
i cant understand Jacobs. Champ Bailey said he was the best receiver on the team. Patten was quoted as saying he should be starting.

i can not ever remember another player who was such a jeckyl/hyde performer.
i will be amazed if he makes the team.. but i guess, i may be amazed

i think patten will make the team. it just may come down to thrash and jacobs, and if it does, it will come down to special teams play because the number 4 and 5 receivers have to play special teams on vitually every team.
patten does not, so he needs to make it based upon game performance.

FanFromArizona
06-17-2006, 02:00 PM
Jacobs.is.gone.

'Nuff said.

EDIT: Listen to how Al Saunders references him in today's video when talking about the receivers core. You'll have to listen closely to find the answer, because he is not referred to by Taylor Jacobs, or TJ, or even Jacobs.

redwolf1218
06-17-2006, 04:44 PM
i can not ever remember another player who was such a jeckyl/hyde performer.
i will be amazed if he makes the team.. but i guess, i may be amazed

i think patten will make the team. it just may come down to thrash and jacobs, and if it does, it will come down to special teams play because the number 4 and 5 receivers have to play special teams on vitually every team.
patten does not, so he needs to make it based upon game performance.
i dont know what to think. jeckyl and hyde is a good description for Taylor. another factor is that Patten and Thrash are both 31. if a young receiver like Jimmy Farris, Derrick Fenner, Steven Harris, Ron Johnson or Richard Smith is very impressive, i'd hate to see him cut for someone over 30 who might have only a year left. 1 or 2 of those guys might make the practice squad, but like we've said before, i fear our practice squad will be so talented this year that we will lose some of them to other rosters before the year is over.

bgforever
06-17-2006, 04:55 PM
Jacobs is like a brand new penny... Looks great when you first see it and then it just dulls up over time. Jacobs has been the shinny new penny in every preseason and a lackluster dull cent in the regular season.

I only add this warning to him. You are trade bait at best. Why.

I saw Alvin Garrett and Virgil Seay's very FIRST YEAR. They caught the ball and HOW! They did their BEST When Coach called the number - EVERY TIME!
It wasn't a non-chalant, oh well, it was OH S, if they screwed up, because thats' the way they played the game, like there was NO Tommoroow or promise!

I can't feel sorry for you, when I have seen hungry people coming off the street, with only bus fare (Brian Mitchell and Rock Cartwright), take the most needed moment and turn it into a home, at least to prove they could when counted on. Yeah they had DUH moments, but NOT BEFORE delivering some knockout punches!

I just don't think you can take a punch. Hey, I've had my grill, jaw , ribbs and stomach rocked like crazy, but like Maya Angelou said, STILL I RISE!

S.Taylor36
06-17-2006, 06:54 PM
When the season starts I want Jacobs to be a distant memory.

silverspring
06-17-2006, 07:04 PM
i certainly hope jacobs doesn't push thrash out of spot, thrash may not be flashy anymore but he is reliable. I think gibbs likes thrash too much and he has proved he can produce. I just don't see how we can carry 53 WRs.

HAWGZHEAD
06-17-2006, 07:24 PM
When the season starts I want Jacobs to be a distant memory.Who? :)

shally
06-18-2006, 01:22 AM
I only add this warning to him. You are trade bait at best. Why.

I saw Alvin Garrett and Virgil Seay's very FIRST YEAR. They caught the ball and HOW! They did their BEST When Coach called the number - EVERY TIME!
It wasn't a non-chalant, oh well, it was OH S, if they screwed up, because thats' the way they played the game, like there was NO Tommoroow or promise!

I can't feel sorry for you, when I have seen hungry people coming off the street, with only bus fare (Brian Mitchell and Rock Cartwright), take the most needed moment and turn it into a home, at least to prove they could when counted on. Yeah they had DUH moments, but NOT BEFORE delivering some knockout punches!

I just don't think you can take a punch. Hey, I've had my grill, jaw , ribbs and stomach rocked like crazy, but like Maya Angelou said, STILL I RISE!

good thought overall... but mitchell was a 5th round pick in the draft.. it was no upset when he made the team, they just needed to find a position for him.. i saw him play 4 years in college. he was awesome as a QB for USL ( now UL at lafayette).. nobody could catch him to tackle him. he might still hold the 4 year total offense records for the school. a great athlete with fine speed.

DCassain21
06-19-2006, 06:03 PM
jacobs needs to be released and just start all over again for another team

IMALILTEAPOT
06-19-2006, 06:14 PM
jacobs is probably the worst player that has rosenhaus for an agent

redwolf1218
06-19-2006, 06:30 PM
remember when the Rams receivers had a rep for laying down after the catch? they didnt want to get hit or bumped off a route. people said they'd go into a shell if they got hit, but it didnt stop them from racking up the catches, yards and TD's. they had speed and timing and ran great routes. maybe Jacobs is soft like that, but in Saunders' system he might just shine.

shally
06-19-2006, 07:43 PM
remember when the Rams receivers had a rep for laying down after the catch? they didnt want to get hit or bumped off a route. people said they'd go into a shell if they got hit, but it didnt stop them from racking up the catches, yards and TD's. they had speed and timing and ran great routes. maybe Jacobs is soft like that, but in Saunders' system he might just shine.

well.. the only way i can see that happening is if defenses are so terrified of ARE, moss and lloyd that they do not even bother to assign a man to jacobs..even then he might have trouble getting open
:lol1:

eddie kennison had a rep for being soft and saunders did fine by him in KC, so who knows? still, i would not bet on jacobs heavily

HollywoodKolt
06-19-2006, 08:44 PM
Jacobs is like a brand new penny... Looks great when you first see it and then it just dulls up over time. Jacobs has been the shinny new penny in every preseason and a lackluster dull cent in the regular season.

That's one analogy you could use. I'd just come out and say that Taylor Jacobs is like a bad wide reciever, he isn't good at playing football.

I'd be suprised if he makes the roster, I've been predicting break out years for him since Gibbs came back and every year he finds himself at the bottom of the ladder. Then late in the year, when he gets his shot as a number 2, we go 2 (or was it 3) full games with out havine a WR other than Santana Moss catching the football.

shally
06-19-2006, 08:58 PM
That's one analogy you could use. I'd just come out and say that Taylor Jacobs is like a bad wide reciever, he isn't good at playing football.

I'd be suprised if he makes the roster, I've been predicting break out years for him since Gibbs came back and every year he finds himself at the bottom of the ladder. Then late in the year, when he gets his shot as a number 2, we go 2 (or was it 3) full games with out havine a WR other than Santana Moss catching the football.

his performance in games was simply pathetic.. no better than jimmy farris.. that is awfull when you are a former second round pick and not a free agent

skinsfan1
06-19-2006, 09:01 PM
his performance in games was simply pathetic.. no better than jimmy farris.. that is awfull when you are a former second round pick and not a free agent


didnt rod gardener teach this guy?
the original stonehands

shally
06-19-2006, 09:04 PM
didnt rod gardener teach this guy?
the original stonehands


at least gardner got open some of the times.. and about 50 % he actually went after the ball. jacobs was incapable of getting separation from anyone.

skinsfan1
06-19-2006, 09:08 PM
at least gardner got open some of the times.. and about 50 % he actually went after the ball. jacobs was incapable of getting separation from anyone.


and what baffles me is he was supposed to have all this speed and to top that he cant catch and run(yac).

shally
06-19-2006, 09:11 PM
and what baffles me is he was supposed to have all this speed and to top that he cant catch and run(yac).

yup... and quote after quote the DB's said he was the best wideout in practice.. go figure... hopefully he will be somene else's problem to figure out this season. enough is enough.

RedskinRyan
06-19-2006, 09:27 PM
ok, rod gardner atleast got a 1000yd season for us. TJ will be lucky to compile that in his career at the rate hes going.

shally
06-19-2006, 11:12 PM
ok, rod gardner atleast got a 1000yd season for us. TJ will be lucky to compile that in his career at the rate hes going.
and he did have a few dominating games.. TJ has had nothing in game situations for his entire career..