Campbell Articles [Merged]

[S.Taylor36]

I have no love for Peter King, but since it is the summer, every possible thing about the Redskins must be posted to keep me sane.

PLAY JASON CAMPBELL. NOW. From Charles of Birmingham: "What do you think the Redskins should do concerning Jason Campbell? He clearly has talent, but it seems they don't want to give him legitimate snaps.''

Well, you know Joe Gibbs is a veteran-loving guy. But he picked Campbell in the first round for a reason -- he loves the kid's potential. I do too. I remember sitting in Phil Simms' office in northern New Jersey 16 months ago looking at the quarterbacks in the 2005 draft, and I remember thinking: Campbell's the best guy out there. If I were Gibbs, I would give him an equal shot in training camp. I don't think that's going to happen. I think Mark Brunell will have to be a C-minus quarterback this summer for Campbell to get a real shot to play early in the season.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/06/20/mmqbte.draft.redux/index.html

[smoak]

How many Super Bowls has Peter Queen won? I remember him saying that with Spurrier, Wuerful was going to re-write record books. Uh-huh.

I love Campbell, but I trust Gibbs to make the right call on when he should play.

[shally]

I have no love for Peter King, but since it is the summer, every possible thing about the Redskins must be posted to keep me sane.

PLAY JASON CAMPBELL. NOW. From Charles of Birmingham: "What do you think the Redskins should do concerning Jason Campbell? He clearly has talent, but it seems they don't want to give him legitimate snaps.''

Well, you know Joe Gibbs is a veteran-loving guy. But he picked Campbell in the first round for a reason -- he loves the kid's potential. I do too. I remember sitting in Phil Simms' office in northern New Jersey 16 months ago looking at the quarterbacks in the 2005 draft, and I remember thinking: Campbell's the best guy out there. If I were Gibbs, I would give him an equal shot in training camp. I don't think that's going to happen. I think Mark Brunell will have to be a C-minus quarterback this summer for Campbell to get a real shot to play early in the season.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/06/20/mmqbte.draft.redux/index.html

well, duh... you have a veteran qb that just lead a team 2 games into the playoffs and now has even more weapons to work with and king is disappointed that gibbs is not turning the team over to an unproven young qb.. what am i missing here? oh, i know.. king is on the giant's payroll perhaps?...

seriously, that is about as benign as we are going to get out of king

[bgforever]

I have no love for Peter King, but since it is the summer, every possible thing about the Redskins must be posted to keep me sane.

PLAY JASON CAMPBELL. NOW. From Charles of Birmingham: "What do you think the Redskins should do concerning Jason Campbell? He clearly has talent, but it seems they don't want to give him legitimate snaps.''

Well, you know Joe Gibbs is a veteran-loving guy. But he picked Campbell in the first round for a reason -- he loves the kid's potential. I do too. I remember sitting in Phil Simms' office in northern New Jersey 16 months ago looking at the quarterbacks in the 2005 draft, and I remember thinking: Campbell's the best guy out there. If I were Gibbs, I would give him an equal shot in training camp. I don't think that's going to happen. I think Mark Brunell will have to be a C-minus quarterback this summer for Campbell to get a real shot to play early in the season.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/06/20/mmqbte.draft.redux/index.html

Understood on your position of PK, but yes, we all know NOW he is getting a fair shot, as Joe Gibbs said he would. NONE of us can confirm PK's statement about what he said to a person, 16 months ago :)

[CNYSkinFan]

And King blasted us for trading up to get Campbell, yet he was the best QB in the draft. Peter King is just trying to stir the pot.

[redwolf1218]

that's cool he thinks Campbell was the best guy out there, but i would rather hear what Phil Simms thought.

[becky]

I almost prefer when he disagrees with us.. it's more settling that way. But regardless, Campbell has a long future ahead of it, I trust Gibbs to make the right call as to when to put him in. IMO Brunell hasn't done anything to lose his job and I'd love to see him have a great year starting all 16 games (and then some) for us.

[smoak]

And King blasted us for trading up to get Campbell, yet he was the best QB in the draft. Peter King is just trying to stir the pot.

Exactly. He is a moron and really one of the WORST media personalities (and I use the term lightly) around. I think Pasta-belly is worse, but only by one little belly roll.

Why oh why would you bother putting any stock in what Butterball has to say. I would lock this thread if I didn't think it would be an abuse of power. :D

that's cool he thinks Campbell was the best guy out there, but i would rather hear what Phil Simms thought.

I can tell you what Simms thought. He thought Shepherd made the catch and that the Bucs were robbed. Honestly, I heard him complain about at least four times since it happened. What a punk.

[bgforever]

I almost prefer when he disagrees with us.. it's more settling that way. But regardless, Campbell has a long future ahead of it, I trust Gibbs to make the right call as to when to put him in. IMO Brunell hasn't done anything to lose his job and I'd love to see him have a great year starting all 16 games (and then some) for us.

Yep, I still like the Rypienesque approach also.

[CNYSkinFan]

You know qa good point was made during minicamp that JC isk learning his sixth new offense in 6 years. Why wouldn't we give him another year to mature and develop?

[shally]

You know qa good point was made during minicamp that JC isk learning his sixth new offense in 6 years. Why wouldn't we give him another year to mature and develop?


why not indeed ? the only reason would be injury to brunell and campbell looking better than collins

[whistleandthumb]

I'm glad everyone thinks Campbell is going to be the next coming, and I sure hope they are all right, but Gibbs has won 3 more Super Bowls than most of these jokers, and if he says Slingin' Sammy Baugh should be our QB, I'm down with that.

[Santheb]

/golfclap King. Gotta give credit where credit is due. He's doing it for us (saying that we picked the best quarterback out of that draft, essentially).

[S.Taylor36]

Basically Peter King tells me nothing I didn't know already. I can't wait to see JC in the pre-season. I wanna see him in action already.

[PA Skins Girl]

Please refrain from sending him hate mail.

[Dolla Bill]

This is the first step of sucking up when we win the superbowl this year.

[MONK_in_HOF]

And King blasted us for trading up to get Campbell, yet he was the best QB in the draft. Peter King is just trying to stir the pot.

I thought I recalled that too. The media is really jumping on the Redskins bandwagon this year.

[shally]

I thought I recalled that too. The media is really jumping on the Redskins bandwagon this year.


well we will see when sean salisbury finally sees the light..also, pasta and dr z are still holdouts as well

[smoak]

This is the first step of sucking up when we win the superbowl this year.

Their sucking up is not wanted or appreciated and IMO they can all still rot in a very, very warm place.

[whitskins]

well we will see when sean salisbury finally sees the light..also, pasta and dr z are still holdouts as well

Actually Sean has already seen the light. He called us Super Bowl contenders on his Fact or Fiction segment on a radio show with John Clayton. Both said we were going to the playoffs. I guess he finally learned after shooting his mouth off last year.

[schmitty199]

That would be suicide for the redskins to start campbell. Hes only in his 2nd year with little to no playing time under his belt. The redskins are trying to win now and brunell gives them a far better chance to win. IMO campbell has the physical tools but like almost any young QB thrown into the fire there 1st couple seasons he would take some lumps and hold the team back.

[Red Bear]

That would be suicide for the redskins to start campbell. Hes only in his 2nd year with little to no playing time under his belt. The redskins are trying to win now and brunell gives them a far better chance to win. IMO campbell has the physical tools but like almost any young QB thrown into the fire there 1st couple seasons he would take some lumps and hold the team back.

the one thing many people fail to see is that joe gibbs is setting this team up for now and for the future. we have a solid corp of young veteran starters with a few old reliables, and then we are going to likely have a very young corp of backups who are going to have to play if someone gets injured, so theyll be getting experience too, just slowly. gibbs built most of his corp with quality young vets thru free agency, and the backups are coming from draft picks or undrafted free agents or other teams castoffs. we're going to be green in some BACKUP positions and experienced at others. we will be green at LB, DT, and OL. experienced at QB, DE, and RB.

[redskinz#1fan]

Please refrain from sending him hate mail.

But why would I do that?!?!:rolleyes: :whoknows:

[Keino]

Please refrain from sending him hate mail.

LOL, Why?

[Keino]

Their sucking up is not wanted or appreciated and IMO they can all still rot in a very, very warm place.


I'd rather they rot in hell. Hawaii is a very very warm place. I don't want them to be warm, I want them to be miserable for eternity.

[danny's stogie]

It makes me nervous that he likes Campbell so much...PK's preseason pick for MVP was Jake Plummer...twice in a row, the two seasons before last.

[shally]

It makes me nervous that he likes Campbell so much...PK's preseason pick for MVP was Jake Plummer...twice in a row, the two seasons before last.

even a blind pig finds a truffle every now and then...:lol1:

[PA Skins Girl]

LOL, Why?
I think the hate mail just fuels the fire for these guys.

Its not so much that I care what these guys think, it's that I care what they write. Because what they write gets read by millions of readers.

For me, part of restoring the glory is restoring our reputation around the league; around the country; with other fans. I want fans of other teams to respect us. Unfortunately, most fans form their opinions by what they read and hear, not what they see.

[shally]

I think the hate mail just fuels the fire for these guys.

Its not so much that I care what these guys think, it's that I care what they write. Because what they write gets read by millions of readers.

For me, part of restoring the glory is restoring our reputation around the league; around the country; with other fans. I want fans of other teams to respect us. Unfortunately, most fans form their opinions by what they read and hear, not what they see.

we already started the restoration by our record last year.. winning the superbowl this year and next will seal the deal

[Red Bear]

we already started the restoration by our record last year.. winning the superbowl this year and next will seal the deal

if we fall flat on our face im blaming you ;)

[3Taylor6]

thats pretty cool but whats even cooler is how i have partied in that very same office cause that office is the size of most houses and its on his property and his daughter throws parties in there when he isnt around....sorry i just had to share that

[Keino]

I think the hate mail just fuels the fire for these guys.

Its not so much that I care what these guys think, it's that I care what they write. Because what they write gets read by millions of readers.

For me, part of restoring the glory is restoring our reputation around the league; around the country; with other fans. I want fans of other teams to respect us. Unfortunately, most fans form their opinions by what they read and hear, not what they see.

See, I could care less what they write. And I like them being continually negative for 2 reasons:

1. They will eat their words as they did last year. Reputation is restored by winning.

2. They provide great locker room material. Not that I believe in outside motivation, but nothing wrong with adding a little fuel to the fire.

Bottomline, is a few Lombardi's command respect, and winning will cause other fans to have no choice but to respect us. If a few hack reporters and columnists have to eat their crow along way, Im ok with that.

[shally]

See, I could care less what they write. And I like them being continually negative for 2 reasons:

1. They will eat their words as they did last year. Reputation is restored by winning.

2. They provide great locker room material. Not that I believe in outside motivation, but nothing wrong with adding a little fuel to the fire.

Bottomline, is a few Lombardi's command respect, and winning will cause other fans to have no choice but to respect us. If a few hack reporters and columnists have to eat their crow along way, Im ok with that.

winning is sweet enough.. it does not matter what the jackalls say or do..

[Redskin4Life]

I have no love for Peter King, but since it is the summer, every possible thing about the Redskins must be posted to keep me sane.

PLAY JASON CAMPBELL. NOW. From Charles of Birmingham: "What do you think the Redskins should do concerning Jason Campbell? He clearly has talent, but it seems they don't want to give him legitimate snaps.''

Well, you know Joe Gibbs is a veteran-loving guy. But he picked Campbell in the first round for a reason -- he loves the kid's potential. I do too. I remember sitting in Phil Simms' office in northern New Jersey 16 months ago looking at the quarterbacks in the 2005 draft, and I remember thinking: Campbell's the best guy out there. If I were Gibbs, I would give him an equal shot in training camp. I don't think that's going to happen. I think Mark Brunell will have to be a C-minus quarterback this summer for Campbell to get a real shot to play early in the season.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/06/20/mmqbte.draft.redux/index.html
Well, if PK were to read the REST OF HIS OWN ARTICLE, it's clear that he DOESN'T think that Campbell is the best QB out there in the 2005 Draft 16 months ago:

I heard two things when I asked around on Friday. One: he scored a very pedestrian 14 on his Wonderlic test last year, then got it up to 28 this year. Teams are suspicious that he studied for his Wonderlic and the 14 is closer to what his true score is. Two: If he was so good, why didn't the Auburn offensive staff design the games around him instead of the great backs?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/04/11/mmqb.draft/2.html

And if he really like Campbell the most out of the QBs on our team, where did this comment come from (an article written around the time of Saunder's hiring):

How will Gibbs react to Saunders saying, "Coach, I know you like Jason Campbell as your quarterback of the future, but for my offense, Patrick Ramsey is 10 times better"?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/01/23/mmqb.championship/index.html

PK just wants us to fall on our faces since he's now realizing that his favorites (the Giants, Colts, Eagles and Pats) are going to suck this year (Eagles, Pats) -- or have taken steps BACKWARDS from the progress that they've made (Colts, Giants).

[redwolf1218]

good research there, Redskin4Life. that changes my opinion on his comments. i guess he just wants to say everything from one extreme to the other so that he can eventually say "i told you so" no matter what happens in the future.

i think it is funny that he obviously wants everyone to know he was "sitting in Phil Simms' office" like that makes him cool and lends him some extra VIP celebrity status and credibility.

[shally]

good research there, Redskin4Life. that changes my opinion on his comments. i guess he just wants to say everything from one extreme to the other so that he can eventually say "i told you so" no matter what happens in the future.

i think it is funny that he obviously wants everyone to know he was "sitting in Phil Simms' office" like that makes him cool and lends him some extra VIP celebrity status and credibility.

a name dropper and jock-sniffer...

[redwolf1218]

a name dropper and jock-sniffer...
i remember sitting out on my deck drinking a beer with Joe Theisman, Doug Williams and Mark Rypien when i said "Campbell might have the arm strength, pocket poise, quick feet, athleticism, leadership abilities and deep ball accuracy of all 3 of you clowns put together."

[Keino]

More evidence that PK is a tool.

Any coach with 2 great RB's is going to build around them, I don't care who your QB is. Ask John Elway if it works.

[Redskin4Life]

good research there, Redskin4Life. that changes my opinion on his comments. i guess he just wants to say everything from one extreme to the other so that he can eventually say "i told you so" no matter what happens in the future.

i think it is funny that he obviously wants everyone to know he was "sitting in Phil Simms' office" like that makes him cool and lends him some extra VIP celebrity status and credibility.
I think the name drop was just to give validity to the fact that he said it and so that others know that he's friends with one of the up and comers in the media NFL-wise. Simms knowledge about players and the NFL in general is getting some notice with not only fans and media members but with players as well....

[dj_stouty]

I could care less what PK or Pasta or Dr. Z or Carruci or Gil Brandt or Sheflter or Kirwan or Eisason or Simms or Prisco or Layden or Michael Smith or Wilbon or Clayton or Adam Shine or Hairdoo or Kornheiser or anyone in the NFL Media thinks of this team.

They all hated on the Skins last year and the vast a majority of them never came full circle and admitted they were wrong about the Skins in '05.

We should do less reading of the above mentioned names and more reading of the people who DO actually know something about the Redskins. (And most of those people reside on this website)

[redwolf1218]

I think the name drop was just to give validity to the fact that he said it and so that others know that he's friends with one of the up and comers in the media NFL-wise. Simms knowledge about players and the NFL in general is getting some notice with not only fans and media members but with players as well....
Simms is one of my favorite commentators. the fact that his son plays for Tampa might pose some problems but other than that i like his knowledge, his sense of humor, delivery, etc.

[Swirvi]

Please refrain from sending him hate mail.

Whoops...was I not supposed to do that?...every week for about 2 years...?

[PA Skins Girl]

Is it me, or do the Skins seem to be getting a lot of press these days? This is a very good article with some decent quotes. I love the fact that we are in no huge hurry to push JC out there. Let it happen naturally. Good read.

http://www.nflplayers.com/news/news_release.aspx?id=5266

[smoot]

has cambell ever said something other than the right thing? EVER?


i love this kid more and more with every article

[Dolla Bill]

has cambell ever said something other than the right thing? EVER?


i love this kid more and more with every article


I noticed that as well. I am definitely looking forward to seeing him during preseason. Him, and CNY's favorite RB.

[HanburgerBum]

Is it me, or do the Skins seem to be getting a lot of press these days? This is a very good article with some decent quotes. I love the fact that we are in no huge hurry to push JC out there. Let it happen naturally. Good read.

http://www.nflplayers.com/news/news_release.aspx?id=5266


Despite of the fact that most members of the media at least early on think the Cowboys are the sexy pick in the NFC, some are beginning to realize that Washington may truly be THE TEAM this year. That's why I think the Skins are getting a lot of press lately. The experts want to jump aboard before the boat sails.

[chrisbcbu]

Is it me, or do the Skins seem to be getting a lot of press these days? This is a very good article with some decent quotes. I love the fact that we are in no huge hurry to push JC out there. Let it happen naturally. Good read.

http://www.nflplayers.com/news/news_release.aspx?id=5266

I know exactly what you mean about alot of articles. Last year we were struggling to find articles to read about the Skins but now they seem to be everywhere!!.

JC will be a star in the near future!

[redskinz#1fan]

Despite of the fact that most members of the media at least early on think the Cowboys are the sexy pick in the NFC, some are beginning to realize that Washington may truly be THE TEAM this year. That's why I think the Skins are getting a lot of press lately. The experts want to jump aboard before the boat sails.


You hit it right on the head! Everyone is starting to realize that T.O will destroy the already beat-up Cowgirls! That is all you heard for the longest, was how dallas had picked up T.O and they had solved all their problems. BS!!!!! We have had more articles in the last 2 weeks, then we had all last year. And they all have a positive spin on them now, v/s last year all they were saying was how the game had passed Gibbs by & Lavar whinning:cry: !

As far as I'm concerned the boat, the bandwagon & any other means of transportation that leads us to Miami (Superbowl) is full with LOYAL full time Skins fans! So there is no room for any late change your mind every week bandwagoners (not sure if that is a word, but it sounded good)! And you better believe that I will be checking your boarding passes @ the door!!

[WarEagle]

has cambell ever said something other than the right thing? EVER?


i love this kid more and more with every article

Jason's dad is a football coach, so he's probably been reading offensive play strategy his entire life. I'm eager for preseason! :)

[GibbsRules!]

This is a nice write up on JC. If opportunity knocks this year I think he will make the most of it.

Nice Read! Also, Santana, Marcus and Warrick have all updated their journals at NFLPlayers.com. Good positive stuff from all of them...I'm gettin pumped!!


Over the last six seasons we've witnessed a handful of first round quarterbacks such as Donovan McNabb, Daunte Culpepper, Carson Palmer and Eli Manning step into the limelight and become definitive starters in their second year as pros and do great things for their teams in the years since. Then again, we've also seen a few highly selected quarterbacks turn into complete busts as well.

In Washington much of the spotlight in recent weeks has fallen on Redskins sophomore quarterback and former first round draft pick Jason Campbell as onlookers wait to see when he'll get his first legitimate shot at becoming the Redskins' top signal caller.

"I think ever since he's (Campbell) been here he's done every single thing we've asked of him," said head coach Joe Gibbs. "I think he's been impressive; I thought he was impressive last year as a rookie and I think he's obviously made steady progress."

"He's had a lot of individual work with Bill (Lazor, quarterbacks coach), a lot of team work, and he knows this is a big preseason coming up for him. We're all excited about seeing our quarterbacks play, and certainly Jason's going to have a big role in preseason and it's going to be interesting to see how he plays."


Read the rest here (http://www.nflplayers.com/news/news_release.aspx?id=5266)

[RedSkinBrit]

Sounds like JC could get his chance if pre season goes well and he has made an impression on the coaching staff.

[PyroGenic]

This is a nice write up on JC. If opportunity knocks this year I think he will make the most of it.

Nice Read! Also, Santana, Marcus and Warrick have all updated their journals at NFLPlayers.com. Good positive stuff from all of them...I'm gettin pumped!!





Read the rest here (http://www.nflplayers.com/news/news_release.aspx?id=5266)

nice car...

I don't think he's ready, this is just off season banter because nobody has anything else to talk about. Remember that he still hasn't taken a real regular season snap yet and has to learn his second offense in 2 seasons in the NFL. Not saying that I don't think that he'll make the most of his opportunities, but I'm glad that we have experienced Veterans on the depth chart.

[redskinz#1fan]

nice car...

I don't think he's ready, this is just off season banter because nobody has anything else to talk about. Remember that he still hasn't taken a real regular season snap yet and has to learn his second offense in 2 seasons in the NFL. Not saying that I don't think that he'll make the most of his opportunities, but I'm glad that we have experienced Veterans on the depth chart.


You could be right about JC not being ready, but you could also be extremely wrong. This kid has all kinds of smarts and poise when it comes to this game. Your right he hasn't taken a single snap during regular season, but I truly believe that if he is called on he can & will handle the responsibility.

As far as your comment about experienced veterans on our depth chart, well it's not that experienced. Brunell is our only QB with any NFL real game experienced. Collins only has experience within Saunder's offense, but he has only completed 18 passes in the last 8 years. So his experience is very limited!

With all that said, I think that we will see JC a lot sooner then some of think. I believe (not hope) that Brunell will go down sometime during the season and JC will come in and continue the success that were having. We will officially witness the changing of the guard. With this offense that we have, we don't need a QB that will dominate a game. We just need a QB to manage the game for us & most importantly limit the mistakes. I believe that JC or anybody we have on our roster is probably capable of doing that.

[Red Bear]

this article is being discussed in another thread

http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=35249

[skinfan43]

More JC quotes, personally liked this one:

"I think I'll get my opportunity in the next couple years," Campbell said. "Everything seems like it's on pace. Mark Brunell is getting older and I know I'm the future of the team."

What his quote tells me is that:

A) He isn't concerned about being the starter or not this season. He is comfortable w/how the staff is bringing him along, and will not be complaining about playing time. That is important, IMO. (That "one for all" mentality)

B) He is confident. He is sure of the Skins faith in him becoming the future starting QB, at whatever time it should be. No wondering from JC at all about his role - IMO, he knows his job this preseason is to show he is successfully digesting Saunders' playbook and implement it in game-scenarios.

(Also makes me more confident if something were to happen to Brunell, God-forbid...)

CAMPBELL GETS NEW SUMMER READING (http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/sports/14896816.htm)

[chrisbcbu]

We may as well have an ALL JC THREAD. LOL.

Well here is another one.

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/sports/14896816.htm

Jason Campbell said he didn't think his life as a quarterback could get any more complicated.

He didn't think it would be possible for a coach to come up with yet another playbook to study, chock full of formations and terminology.

How many other ways could there be to plot a post-corner route or draw play?

Campbell, the former Auburn quarterback now with the Washington Redskins, thought that becoming an NFL player would bring an end to the cycle of insanity that marked his college days. While at Auburn, head coach Tommy Tuberville changed offensive coordinators as often as Michael Jackson has noses.

[GWBlitzST]

The Marcus Washington entry got me excited. He talks about how they aren't blitzing as much and really giving him a chance to shine. Then when we do blitz, they'll have NO IDEA where it's coming from because every non lineman we have now is a good pass rusher, other than maybe Holdman, but he will be in better shape this year because he's actually fighting for a job rather than thinking he's just gonna back up Lavar and play a third down every once in a while. Rogers, ST, Archuletta, Springs, MW, Rocky, Marshall, I am so psyched.

[the real moss89]

nice car...

I don't think he's ready, this is just off season banter because nobody has anything else to talk about. Remember that he still hasn't taken a real regular season snap yet and has to learn his second offense in 2 seasons in the NFL. Not saying that I don't think that he'll make the most of his opportunities, but I'm glad that we have experienced Veterans on the depth chart.


I agree. I think JC will get more regular season reps this year but i don't expect him to start. The only way i see him passing Brunell is by injury or if Brunell just plain sucks for some odd reason this season.

[remaxjon]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2500632

[Red Bear]

he seems to be writing a lot of articles about individual players of ours

[RedskinRyan]

he seems to be writing a lot of articles about individual players of ours

next, why jesse lumsden will be better than reggie bush

[wave6ten]

maybe he reads this sight and saw how much he was hated.....who knows.

[whitskins]

Pasta is tight with JC's agent, that's how he got tipped off that we were going to draft him in 04 days before the draft. He's probably close with Holdman's agent too so he's churning out some puff pieces for them.

Luckily, the good word behind JC and Holdman was delivered from our very own coaching staff, so we know the praise is legit.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Seems like this guy is going out of his way to make it seem like the Redskins have problems.

As for when Campbell gets there, well, it's still anyone's guess. The suspicion in Washington is that if Brunell were injured during a game, Collins, who has averaged just 3.4 pass attempts over the last eight seasons, would take over and finish the contest. If the injury sidelined Brunell for a game or two, the staff would prepare Campbell to be the starter.


Why else would he bother with an assumption like this this before preseason?

[redwolf1218]

Seems like this guy is going out of his way to make it seem like the Redskins have problems.



Why else would he bother with an assumption like this this before preseason?
that's his writing style. he's always using clever phrases like "the suspicion in Washington..."

[Redskin4Life]

Looks like LennyP's been cut-and-pasting from his old articles:

That gives him a meaningful edge over Patrick Ramsey, the last first-round quarterback taken by Washington before Campbell, in 2002. Having inherited Ramsey, the current coaches owed him no loyalty and so the staff essentially completed the systematic undermining of his confidence begun by Steve Spurrier, awarding him the starting job at the outset of last season and then benching him after the first half of the opening game.

[Vonslydog]

Seems like this guy is going out of his way to make it seem like the Redskins have problems.



Why else would he bother with an assumption like this this before preseason?
I'm not sure how this comment indicates a problem for the Redskins.

[HanburgerBum]

I am telling you, LP is warming up to the Skins because he smells a big winner in Washington this season.

[Fathead]

The suspicion on the internet is that pastabelly is a no talent hack.

[skinfanjon]

The suspicion on the internet is that pastabelly is a no talent hack.

Yeah, nothing we didn't already know in that article. I do like the fact that he can't just ignore us anymore (not that I seek his validation either), it just shows how far we've come.

[S.Taylor36]

I am telling you, LP is warming up to the Skins because he smells a big winner in Washington this season.

Like I said before, once we are winning they'll all come back saying they knew it all along.

[redwolf1218]

someone might read this article and come away thinking Campbell is disgruntled. some quotes from the article, in classic Pasta fashion:

in regards to Campbell's patience:

Pasta: And the patience reservoir is filled one thimble-full of frustration...at a time.

me: Campbell is frustrated at being in line to take over the offense of one of the most storied franchises in NFL history, under the tutelage of Joe Gibbs and Al Saunders?

quote from Campbell: I have to stay patient and believe this learning experience is all for the best."

Pasta: It is not, acknowledged Campbell...the easiest thing to do.

me: when did Campbell really actually acknowkedge that?

Pasta: Campbell was anointed the Redskins' "Quarterback of the Future." It is a title, Campbell has discovered painfully, that represents both a blessing and a curse because it augurs uncertainty: Just when will the heir apparent play?

me: you mean Campbell thought he'd start ahead of Brunell right away and it was a painfull discovery to him to find out he'd have the chance to wait and learn?

Pasta: Campbell, 24, has been promised, in the words of coach Joe Gibbs, "a ton" of playing time in preseason. Right now, such promise only suggests Campbell will be working more again on patience than on his passing touch in 2006.

me: are you implying Gibbs dishes out empty promises?

Pasta: And for a quarterback accustomed to being in the big time...it's something that's sometimes hard to accept.

me: Campbell is having a hard time accepting his role here?

Pasta: History suggests that Campbell, who figures to go to training camp next month as the third quarterback on the Washington depth chart...

me: i thought he would be competing for the backup job to Brunell.

Pasta: Campbell conceded last week that the absence of a "time certain" on his future was a little unnerving.

me: what's a "time certain"? i must have missed this "unnerving" quote from Campbell. did anyone else see that in print or hear it in an interview?

Pasta: That is, however, just guesswork.

me: at least he admitted this whole thing is just him guessing.

[Meatsnack]

This is actually a reasonably professional job by lardbutt. He might have done actual research for this article. Where has this been the last few years?

[redwolf1218]

This is actually a reasonably professional job by lardbutt. He might have done actual research for this article. Where has this been the last few years?
his style of writing still annoys me. he can take a small statement and imply a bunch of other meanings into it so as to state an unfounded opinion as if it were a quote or a fact.

[PA Skins Girl]

I'd like to know what depth chart he is looking at because there is no official depth chart at this point.

[Torresa]

It's cool to see JC on front of ESPN NFL section...

[Fathead]

I'd like to know what depth chart he is looking at because there is no official depth chart at this point.




Logic and pastabelly do not mix.

[redwolf1218]

Logic and pastabelly do not mix.
it's really a shame too, because so many things mix well with pasta.

he has a way of sneaking in his little comments and thinks everyone will let it slide. he's good at it, i'll have to admit, but he implies a lot of stuff and very little of what he says is fact, although he has a way of presenting it in that light.

it is interesting to see the Redskins splashed all over ESPN's website here lately...

[SpicyMcHaggis]

it's really a shame too, because so many things mix well with pasta.

he has a way of sneaking in his little comments and thinks everyone will let it slide. he's good at it, i'll have to admit, but he implies a lot of stuff and very little of what he says is fact, although he has a way of presenting it in that light.

it is interesting to see the Redskins splashed all over ESPN's website here lately...
Everybody is making bandwagon reservations..sorry fellas, we're full.

[BandWagon]

I've got to agree with you completely...it totally smelled of a disgruntled first round draft pick, which I don't believe we have. Shame on him (again) for trying to make a story out of something that's not there....

someone might read this article and come away thinking Campbell is disgruntled. some quotes from the article, in classic Pasta fashion:

in regards to Campbell's patience:

Pasta: And the patience reservoir is filled one thimble-full of frustration...at a time.

me: Campbell is frustrated at being in line to take over the offense of one of the most storied franchises in NFL history, under the tutelage of Joe Gibbs and Al Saunders?

quote from Campbell: I have to stay patient and believe this learning experience is all for the best."

Pasta: It is not, acknowledged Campbell...the easiest thing to do.

me: when did Campbell really actually acknowkedge that?

Pasta: Campbell was anointed the Redskins' "Quarterback of the Future." It is a title, Campbell has discovered painfully, that represents both a blessing and a curse because it augurs uncertainty: Just when will the heir apparent play?

me: you mean Campbell thought he'd start ahead of Brunell right away and it was a painfull discovery to him to find out he'd have the chance to wait and learn?

Pasta: Campbell, 24, has been promised, in the words of coach Joe Gibbs, "a ton" of playing time in preseason. Right now, such promise only suggests Campbell will be working more again on patience than on his passing touch in 2006.

me: are you implying Gibbs dishes out empty promises?

Pasta: And for a quarterback accustomed to being in the big time...it's something that's sometimes hard to accept.

me: Campbell is having a hard time accepting his role here?

Pasta: History suggests that Campbell, who figures to go to training camp next month as the third quarterback on the Washington depth chart...

me: i thought he would be competing for the backup job to Brunell.

Pasta: Campbell conceded last week that the absence of a "time certain" on his future was a little unnerving.

me: what's a "time certain"? i must have missed this "unnerving" quote from Campbell. did anyone else see that in print or hear it in an interview?

Pasta: That is, however, just guesswork.

me: at least he admitted this whole thing is just him guessing.

[James F. Quinn]

He certainly understands the richness of the language. He knows that:

Insiders say...

The word around Redskins Park is...

My sources tell me...

The buzz at Asburn is...

It is no secret that...

It is a closely held secret that...

Word is that...

All mean the same thing: "I just made this up..."

[SpicyMcHaggis]

He certainly understands the richness of the language. He knows that:

Insiders say...

The word around Redskins Park is...

My sources tell me...

The buzz at Asburn is...

It is no secret that...

It is a closely held secret that...

Word is that...

All mean the same thing: "I just made this up..."
:lol1: Very true!!
Oh and welcome to HR.com!!

[James F. Quinn]

again.

[Meatsnack]

He certainly understands the richness of the language. He knows that:

Insiders say...

The word around Redskins Park is...

My sources tell me...

The buzz at Asburn is...

It is no secret that...

It is a closely held secret that...

Word is that...

All mean the same thing: "I just made this up..."

What he really understands is the richness of a nice varietal olive oil drizzled over a pound of linguini with roasted garlic. Washed down with a fruity glass of yak ghee. This stuff, you can't make up... ;)

[budman]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2500632

someone actually pays da pasta man . . . wow :rolleyes:

[IowaSkinsFan]

Threads merged on Campbell articles.

[redwolf1218]

He certainly understands the richness of the language. He knows that:

Insiders say...

The word around Redskins Park is...

My sources tell me...

The buzz at Asburn is...

It is no secret that...

It is a closely held secret that...

Word is that...

All mean the same thing: "I just made this up..."
exactly. that's his style, and he's really good at it. it's all smoke and mirrors. very annoying.

[redwolf1218]

another one, hope it's not already posted.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=17927

[Red Bear]

another one, hope it's not already posted.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=17927

yeah this article is in the news section but wasnt listed on the front page, casey husband has been writing a lot lately

[redwolf1218]

"Jason looks pretty good," said Pro Bowl wide receiver Santana Moss. "Remember, it's not easy being a first-year quarterback in the NFL. Last year he had to learn a new offense, and this year it's the same thing for him."

Moss continued: "It's not easy being Jason right now. But he has the arm and once he gets the grasp of this offense, he'll be OK."

alot has been said about Campbell having to learn a new system...maybe some of yall can relate to this, but i take a positive approach to it, for this reason:

i remember years ago changing jobs for the first time (within the same field) and being overwhelmed at having to learn new programs, procedures, terminology, directory structure on the computers, etc...then of course after a while it all became second-nature, but at first it was very intimidating. since then, i've changed jobs several times and after going thru that procedure over and over, i now have confidence that i can step into a new situation and grasp it.

my point is, Campbell has changed schemes something like 6 times dating back to college and he's always managed to excell. the change might have been tougher for a QB who spent his college career in one system, or for an older QB who has spent his pro career in a single system. they say it's tough to teach an old dog new tricks, but Campbell should have the confidence that he will (yet again) be able to grasp a new scheme and be equally as effective as he was each time before.

[Red Bear]

"Jason looks pretty good," said Pro Bowl wide receiver Santana Moss. "Remember, it's not easy being a first-year quarterback in the NFL. Last year he had to learn a new offense, and this year it's the same thing for him."

Moss continued: "It's not easy being Jason right now. But he has the arm and once he gets the grasp of this offense, he'll be OK."

alot has been said about Campbell having to learn a new system...maybe some of yall can relate to this, but i take a positive approach to it, for this reason:

i remember years ago changing jobs for the first time (within the same field) and being overwhelmed at having to learn new programs, procedures, terminology, directory structure on the computers, etc...then of course after a while it all became second-nature, but at first it was very intimidating. since then, i've changed jobs several times and after going thru that procedure over and over, i now have confidence that i can step into a new situation and grasp it.

my point is, Campbell has changed schemes something like 6 times dating back to college and he's always managed to excell. the change might have been tougher for a QB who spent his college career in one system, or for an older QB who has spent his pro career in a single system. they say it's tough to teach an old dog new tricks, but Campbell should have the confidence that he will (yet again) be able to grasp a new scheme and be equally as effective as he was each time before.

i agree. watching NFL Total Access last night they had Brett Favre on for an interview. He was talking about how it was hard learning a new offense for him after being in the same one for 15 years. he said the plays and stuff are the same but the terminology and stuff is different, and that he has to basically brain wash himself of the old system and pick up all the new stuff. so the fact that campbell has changed and had to learn new things every year could be to his advantage. one, it shows his work ethic. two, its not as hard for him to forget the old offense and digest the new one.

[Thugzbunny]

Aaron Schatz of Foxsports ranks each teams quarterbacks.

He ranks the skins at # 13, eaglles 8, the giants at 18, and the girls at 21

I think the rankings seem fair but he's not too optimistic on brunell and predicts that Campbell will be ready to fill in if needed. Here is what he said.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5764156

Washington
Mark Brunell's big comeback was a lot of fun, but it's unlikely that he will have a season as good — or as healthy — in 2006. Brunell dropped from 6.0 net yards per pass with three interceptions (Weeks 1-9) to 5.7 net yards per pass with seven interceptions (Weeks 10-17). He also went from converting 46 percent of third-down passes (with an average of 7.6 yards to go) to converting only 33 percent of third-down passes (despite a lower average of 6.6 yards to go). The good news for Washington fans is that backup Jason Campbell does very well in our rookie quarterback projection system. You can predict the NFL performance of first- and second-round quarterbacks with astonishing accuracy using just two college stats: games started and completion percentage. No other recent high draft pick ranks above Campbell in both categories.