Funny

[Green-Is-Good]

I was just on the Eagles' Official Site. While I was there, I saw a poll asking whether the team was better than they were this time a year ago or not. 56% said yes.

Link (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/)

[GR_Eagle]

I honestly think they are better than last year. I highly doubt they will get 12 wins again but as a team they are better.

[TexSkin]

They looked pretty good on Monday night against a good Saints team.

[Hailyeah]

Maybe they're all hoping for a healthy McNabb for 16 games primed and ready for the playoffs? Their fans understand that they have a heck of a coaching staff and system in place. Who knows what will happen. Its the NFL.

[Spence]

Coaching staff is the best in the NFL. Loss of Hugh Douglass hurts, though, and Troy Vincent is not getting any younger. McNabb will keep them near the top.

[Skins57]

This will be the last season for Vincent and Taylor, so they had better hope the youngins step up. But it always seems as of late it works for them. Reid gets a lot of crap ( for screwing around the vets) but he does know what he is doing

[jsarno]

Originally posted by GR_Eagle
I honestly think they are better than last year. I highly doubt they will get 12 wins again but as a team they are better.

Why do you feel this way?
The Eagles lost more than just thier backbone in douglas, they lost Shawn Barber, Brian Mitchell, Dorsey Levens (don't laugh, he was an important role player for you guys last year), Antonio Freeman, Al Harris and Blaine Bishop. Others that you lost were Cecil Martin, Jeff Thomason, Doug Brzezinski, and Barry Gardner.

Who did you sign?
Jon Ritchie, Nate Wayne, and Mark Simoneau.

How can you possibly think you got better?

[hail2skins]

I had a Eagle fan tell me if they don't win it all, then the coach should be fired.

[jsarno]

McNabb can't do it all. They are still good, but this year the Eagles come back to the pack. All the NFC East teams got better. (doesn't mean they will be dethroned per say, but it's important to note)

[GR_Eagle]

Originally posted by jsarno
Why do you feel this way?
The Eagles lost more than just thier backbone in douglas, they lost Shawn Barber, Brian Mitchell, Dorsey Levens (don't laugh, he was an important role player for you guys last year), Antonio Freeman, Al Harris and Blaine Bishop. Others that you lost were Cecil Martin, Jeff Thomason, Doug Brzezinski, and Barry Gardner.

Who did you sign?
Jon Ritchie, Nate Wayne, and Mark Simoneau.

How can you possibly think you got better?

Douglas-
Loss hurts but Kalu/McDougle and a healthy Burgess should make up for it

Shawn Barber-
Nate Wayne, wash

Brian Mitchell-
this one hurts but it also clears up a roster spot since thats all Mitchell can do

Dorsey Levens-
Who cares.... Buckhalter is way better than him and thats who Levens replaced last year

Antonio Freeman-
A good slot reciever. They have a 1 year deal out there for him but he still thinks he can start somewhere. If Mitchell and Billy McMullen continue to play well... Freeman won't be needed.

Al Harris-
They drafted Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown for a reason. Plus the 2nd rounder was used to get McDougle, to replace Hugh. He's a good player but he was a tradeable commodity.

Blaine Bishop-
He badly missed Jerevicious last year in the NFC title game (sorry haven't gotten over that play yet;) Seriously though, Michael Lewis takes his place. The 2nd year player had 11 tackles and a sack last year in the eagles playoff win. Big upgrade here in my opinion.

Cecil Martin-
Obvious upgrade in Jon Ritchie.


Jeff Thomasen-
Old, the eagles hope LJ smith replaces him and than Chad Lewis in a year or two. He won't be missed other than in the red zone.

Doug Brezinski-
The eagles have very little depth at o-line and Doug will be missed. He wanted a chance to start though so he left.

Barry Gardner/Levon Kirkland-
Mark Simeneau is an unknown.... but he can't be any worse than the platoon Philly had last year.

All in all.... we lost some players but gained some at different spots. Jim Johnson has a great defensive system and can basically put anyone in there as long as they have that great secondary. The offense has all of its players back (aside from Duce... jurys still out on him) plus it added LJ Smith, Ritchie, and Billy McMullen.

I could see them taking a step backwards in defense maybe but their offense will be as good if not better than last year.

[GR_Eagle]

Originally posted by hail2skins
I had a Eagle fan tell me if they don't win it all, then the coach should be fired.

:eek: thats a bit extreme for him to say but I am getting tired of seeing them lose in the NFC title game.

[CarMike]

You want to know how good the Eagles system is? They made winners out of Feely and the other guy, which his name is escaping me right now.

Notice I didn't say Eagles are. Its their system. The players believe in it. It doesn't really matter how good McNabb plays. The system will always be there for them.

A lot of NFC East teams said "wait till Donovan gets hurt and we'll see how good the Eagles are." Well, that happened last year and the Eagles didn't miss a step.

I'm not going to count those guys out until there's a reason too.

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by GR_Eagle
:eek: thats a bit extreme for him to say but I am getting tired of seeing them lose in the NFC title game.

What would you do? What's you opinion on last year's title game? Would you blame it on conservative play calling or something else? Just curious because I've heard several people (Eagle's fans) say the blame Reid.

[GR_Eagle]

Originally posted by hail2skins
What would you do? What's you opinion on last year's title game? Would you blame it on conservative play calling or something else? Just curious because I've heard several people (Eagle's fans) say the blame Reid.

I blame the conservative playing as well. I think Ried has a great eye for judging talent and he can get a team prepared with the best of them but he is a below average play calling coach. As said above, his system works but I'd like to see more of the offense be done by the offensive coordinator. Maybe the change would have the effect as it did on the giants where they changed play calling duties while having the same personnel on offense.

[NamVet4]

I hope it comes down to the 'Skins and the Eagles battling it out for the post season!!!!!!!
The "igles" always seem to manage to put a team together that raises hell in the NFC !
No.............. that does not mean that I like them any better!:eaglesuk:

[jsarno]

Originally posted by GR_Eagle
Douglas-
Loss hurts but Kalu/McDougle and a healthy Burgess should make up for it

Shawn Barber-
Nate Wayne, wash

Brian Mitchell-
this one hurts but it also clears up a roster spot since thats all Mitchell can do

Dorsey Levens-
Who cares.... Buckhalter is way better than him and thats who Levens replaced last year

Antonio Freeman-
A good slot reciever. They have a 1 year deal out there for him but he still thinks he can start somewhere. If Mitchell and Billy McMullen continue to play well... Freeman won't be needed.

Al Harris-
They drafted Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown for a reason. Plus the 2nd rounder was used to get McDougle, to replace Hugh. He's a good player but he was a tradeable commodity.

Blaine Bishop-
He badly missed Jerevicious last year in the NFC title game (sorry haven't gotten over that play yet;) Seriously though, Michael Lewis takes his place. The 2nd year player had 11 tackles and a sack last year in the eagles playoff win. Big upgrade here in my opinion.

Cecil Martin-
Obvious upgrade in Jon Ritchie.


Jeff Thomasen-
Old, the eagles hope LJ smith replaces him and than Chad Lewis in a year or two. He won't be missed other than in the red zone.

Doug Brezinski-
The eagles have very little depth at o-line and Doug will be missed. He wanted a chance to start though so he left.

Barry Gardner/Levon Kirkland-
Mark Simeneau is an unknown.... but he can't be any worse than the platoon Philly had last year.

All in all.... we lost some players but gained some at different spots. Jim Johnson has a great defensive system and can basically put anyone in there as long as they have that great secondary. The offense has all of its players back (aside from Duce... jurys still out on him) plus it added LJ Smith, Ritchie, and Billy McMullen.

I could see them taking a step backwards in defense maybe but their offense will be as good if not better than last year.

I just do not agree with some of these. Like Levens. His playoffs / superbowl experience was valuable, and his versitility will be missed. You're kidding yourself if you think Barber and Wayne are washes.
You may not have liked Bishop, but that will hurt you. And no one can fill the shoes your captain left to fill. It was wise to let him go financially, but it will cost you none the less.
I see them taking a step back in defense and special teams. (barely in special teams). I am curious as to why you think the offense will be BETTER. If the Rams are any indicator of this, it's hard to be dominant one year, and dc's not figure you out the next, or at least play it better. I did not see an upgrade at offense, therefore can only imagine at best they stay the same.

[Spence]

One thing I know for certain: Shawn Barber is better than Nate Wayne.

[GR_Eagle]

Blaine Bishop is now retired since no one signed him this offseason. Lewis is an unknown as a 2nd year player but he was as good as Blaine towards the end of last season.

Dorsey Levins is not as valuable as Correl Buckhalter. He has the expirieince but isn't the player he once was.

As for the offense being better.... they have the same offensive line as last year. LJ Smith is an upgrade from Thomasen and Buckhalter is an upgrade from Levens. The recieving corps will still be weak Freeman is unsigned still but who knows how Billy McMullen and Freddie Mitchell will do this year. The offense is by no means dominant but that was kept intact this offseason and even added to in the draft. The eagles offense still hasn't been the strong point of the team in years....

[NamVet4]

Buckhalter, if he stays healthy, will give the "igles" fans a lot to cheer about this year. Coach Reid will exploit this offensive weapon - after all this is a "Corn Husker" running back!

[GR_Eagle]

Originally posted by NamVet4
Buckhalter, if he stays healthy, will give the "igles" fans a lot to cheer about this year. Coach Reid will exploit this offensive weapon - after all this is a "Corn Husker" running back!

How good was he in college? I saw his ypc was pretty high when he was there.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by hail2skins
I had a Eagle fan tell me if they don't win it all, then the coach should be fired.

If he does, that is a sad commentary of the state of the NFL. Andy Reid is obviously an excellent coach who gets results. People blame him for the loss of Trotter and the holdout of Staley, but Trotter did little to earn his money last year and Staley looks very replaceable in that offense. Andy Reid is easily one of the top 4 coaches in the league right now.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by GR_Eagle
Douglas-
Loss hurts but Kalu/McDougle and a healthy Burgess should make up for it

Shawn Barber-
Nate Wayne, wash

Brian Mitchell-
this one hurts but it also clears up a roster spot since thats all Mitchell can do

Dorsey Levens-
Who cares.... Buckhalter is way better than him and thats who Levens replaced last year

Antonio Freeman-
A good slot reciever. They have a 1 year deal out there for him but he still thinks he can start somewhere. If Mitchell and Billy McMullen continue to play well... Freeman won't be needed.

Al Harris-
They drafted Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown for a reason. Plus the 2nd rounder was used to get McDougle, to replace Hugh. He's a good player but he was a tradeable commodity.

Blaine Bishop-
He badly missed Jerevicious last year in the NFC title game (sorry haven't gotten over that play yet;) Seriously though, Michael Lewis takes his place. The 2nd year player had 11 tackles and a sack last year in the eagles playoff win. Big upgrade here in my opinion.

Cecil Martin-
Obvious upgrade in Jon Ritchie.


Jeff Thomasen-
Old, the eagles hope LJ smith replaces him and than Chad Lewis in a year or two. He won't be missed other than in the red zone.

Doug Brezinski-
The eagles have very little depth at o-line and Doug will be missed. He wanted a chance to start though so he left.

Barry Gardner/Levon Kirkland-
Mark Simeneau is an unknown.... but he can't be any worse than the platoon Philly had last year.

All in all.... we lost some players but gained some at different spots. Jim Johnson has a great defensive system and can basically put anyone in there as long as they have that great secondary. The offense has all of its players back (aside from Duce... jurys still out on him) plus it added LJ Smith, Ritchie, and Billy McMullen.

I could see them taking a step backwards in defense maybe but their offense will be as good if not better than last year.

If ND Kalu waits any longer to "break out", he will become the senior member of his cell block. At some point you have to remove the label of potential and insert the underachiever label. I will tell you this, he does not cause Chris Samuels and sleepless nights. He will not make up for the loss of Douglas.

Nate Wayne has never been the equal of Shawn Barber, definite downgrade.

[TexSkin]

Like Big Daddy for instance :)

[NamVet4]

Originally posted by GR_Eagle
How good was he in college? I saw his ypc was pretty high when he was there.

Here is a link to Correll Buckhalter Corn Husker stats (http://www.theindependent.com/data/pstats/00fb_1711_Buckhalter.html) check it out....:)

[Skinzaholic]

I must say that GR_EAGLE is a great example of the type of opponnts fans we want to have here debating wih us. He hasn't made any stupid uninformed slams against the other teams... simply states facts and lets them stand.


Props my man!


(Carry on).

[Spence]

Hard to believe he's an Eagles fan. He can read. He can write. Doesn't seem drunk. What gives?

[jsarno]

Originally posted by robert11273
If he does, that is a sad commentary of the state of the NFL. Andy Reid is obviously an excellent coach who gets results. People blame him for the loss of Trotter and the holdout of Staley, but Trotter did little to earn his money last year and Staley looks very replaceable in that offense. Andy Reid is easily one of the top 4 coaches in the league right now.

I don't think people understand how versitile and valuable Staley is to the Eagles. I think Buckhalter has talent, but if Staley isn't in the offense, good luck.

Reid has already defined himself as a great coach, if the eagles are stupid enough to fire him, some other team will be VERY lucky! He'll be on the top of each teams "to do" list.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Spence
Hard to believe he's an Eagles fan. He can read. He can write. Doesn't seem drunk. What gives?

There goes that stereotype.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I have to also agree that the Eagles got a downgrade this season, enough to make it a real contest for that top spot in the NFC East. Personally, I think the Giants will win it this year, but that's just me. Hell, that might change if the G-men's starting O-line keeps playing like it did last week.

As for Reid, he's obviously an incredible coach, and any team that would fire him is digging its own grave.

[Green-Is-Good]

the eagles got the deal of the year in getting simonoeu for 4th and 6th round picks

[GR_Eagle]

Thanks for the props guys. I like reading posts from NFC East rivals sites to see whats going on with each team and I must say this is my fav non eagles football site. Lots of smart football fans here without the smack.


Simeneau seems pretty small out there on the field but I hope he can work out okay for them. There aren't too many mlb's in the league that are worse than Barry Gardner:D

[Green-Is-Good]

don't worry about him. he will have a career year. i predict over 70 [solo] tackles.