HOF game thread: Raiders vs Eagles

[CarMike]

Even if its the Raiders/Eagles, tonight officially kicks off the 2006 football season!

Talk about the game here. Here's to no injuries to the players. Again, even if it the Raiders/Eagles.

[CarMike]

What are some things you'll be looking for tonight?

personally, i'll looking for the Eagles depth and how deep they'll be. Since the Starters will only play series or two, this will be a great chance to see how their bench will look this year.

[smoak]

CM -- On what channel will the game be shown? ABC or ESPN? I need to know if I should go to my moms for awhile...

I am really curious to see McNabb and the WRs. I also really want to see how the starting and back up o-lines look as well as checking out RBs. Basically I guess I am mostly interested in their offensive side of the ball where they are minus TO, but also and more importantly Childress.

[whitskins]

The game is on NBC.

I'll be watching the Eagles offense pretty closely, mostly how mobile and accurate McNabb is and whether or not they choose to run the ball and how effective that is.

Something to watch for is that undrafted free agent Hank Baskett is starting at WR for the Birds. He's supposedly been a favorite target of McNabb so he's starting with Pinkston hurting. Gaffney looks like a simple slot guy, so I don't think they're interested in working him on the outside.

Hopefully the Raiders give a good showing and make the Philly faithful good and angry early in the year. The Game has my full support today!

[CarMike]

CM -- On what channel will the game be shown? ABC or ESPN? I need to know if I should go to my moms for awhile...

I am really curious to see McNabb and the WRs. I also really want to see how the starting and back up o-lines look as well as checking out RBs. Basically I guess I am mostly interested in their offensive side of the ball where they are minus TO, but also and more importantly Childress.
Here in the Carolinas, its on NBC. So I'm sure it will be the same everywhere else.

And I agree. Their Oline will be the key. As it is in Dallass as well.

[Keino]

I dunno Mike. Im kinda hoping for some Eagle injuries. I'll keep the specifics to myself, but I wouldn't mind seeing them hobble away from this game.

[CNYSkinFan]

Even if its the Raiders/Eagles, tonight officially kicks off the 2006 football season!

Talk about the game here. Here's to no injuries to the players. Again, even if it the Raiders/Eagles.

The poster The Game or the actual Game? I predict a bunch of gramatically incorrect posts exclaiming how Aaron Brooks is the man and Lamont Jordan is going to break the rushing record this year.

[CarMike]

I dunno Mike. Im kinda hoping for some Eagle injuries. I'll keep the specifics to myself, but I wouldn't mind seeing them hobble away from this game.
:D

[FanFromArizona]

I want to see how the Eagles WR look and also see what kind of running game they "have". I am also going to see who gets placed as the slot, X, and Z receiver.

Lastly, I am going to watch the Philly D as a whole and see how Kearse and D Howard work together.

I really don't give 2 hoots about Oakland. They are still going to stink the AFC West up again this year.

[shally]

What are some things you'll be looking for tonight?

personally, i'll looking for the Eagles depth and how deep they'll be. Since the Starters will only play series or two, this will be a great chance to see how their bench will look this year.

whether the eagles have any receivers.. whether the eagles can run the ball. whether mcnabb in what is sure to be a brief appearance looks smooth in his body movements

[shally]

I dunno Mike. Im kinda hoping for some Eagle injuries. I'll keep the specifics to myself, but I wouldn't mind seeing them hobble away from this game.


yup.. nothing life threatening... but a few dings in the pretty finish would be fine..:lol1:

[chrisbcbu]

I want to see how well the Philly OL does during the game.

[BroncosRule23]

I'm pretty interested to see how Michael Huff and Darnell Bing play. I know Huff should be starting and I'm fairly sure Bing is as well, so they should get some extensive playing experience. I'll be interested to see how well they react to the speed of the pro game.....


Oh, and that Randy Moss bites his tongue off. I wouldn't miss him never talking again.

[chrisbcbu]

I also want to see how well Aaron Brooks does this game. Maybe he will throw the ball forward this game!

[shally]

I also want to see how well Aaron Brooks does this game. Maybe he will throw the ball forward this game!

he does throw a pretty deep ball.. with moss and porter he should let a couple long ones loose

[FanFromArizona]

he does throw a pretty deep ball.. with moss and porter he should let a couple long ones loose


It'll be interesting to watch if porter's dissatisfaction rears itself in the game.
If Porter wants to succeed in getting traded, he will need to produce on the field.

[PyroGenic]

is it bad if I don't really care about watching this game? 2 craptacular teams squaring off in the opening pre season game of the new season. I dunno... if I watch I'm rooting for the raiders and for porter to wear his dollar sign championship belt.

[superskin]

What is interesting is that, the Iggle receivers you see playing in the 4th quarter could very well be their starters on opening day. They simply have a big void there at that position, and I love it.

I think it will be nice to see Art Shell on the sideline again. He was a good coach that was overlooked after a nice original stint with the Raiders

[InsomniaKiller]

The Raiders will be improved with Brooks at qb instead of Collins. I am not saying Brooks is a great quarterback. He ain't. But I think with what they've got there, he will do alright. I think Moss will be happier, too. Brooks will throw more desperation passes his way while Collins just seemed to flat-out ignore him sometimes...

So I guess I'll look to see if they are able to connect on a deep ball...

The Eagles, I don't know...I guess I'll see how they plan to move the ball...No run threat, no real receiving threat, I don't know...

Normally when you play a team with lackluster receivers, you put 8 in the box...But against the Eagles...8 in the box? Why? Philly has to try to establish a run game RIGHT AWAY or their receivers are going to have an even tougher time this year than most of us are expecting...

[lakeskin]

Im hoping to see more shots of Al Davis. He either cracks me up or horrifies me every time. He's basically become a slasher movie.

[Biggie]

Im hoping to see more shots of Al Davis. He either cracks me up or horrifies me every time. He's basically become a slasher movie.

Was he in a car accident of some sort? I saw his face during the Hall of Fame broadcast yesterday and I thought I was watching a Nightmare on Elm Street movie. Maybe it was just the lighting.

As for the game, I want to see how McNabb does for the five plays he's in, as well as how the Raiders offense looks.

[InsomniaKiller]

Hm. I also want to see how NBC handles the game!

[lakeskin]

Hm. I also want to see how NBC handles the game!

Especially how the announcing team sounds. Cant wait to hear how Al Michaels and John Madden sound together. Oh wait...:banghead:

[Meatsnack]

I want a meteor to strike the stadium.

Failing that, I hope someone hits a Raider hard enough for the psychic shockwave to travel through the ether and explode Norv Turner's head.

As far as the game, with Brown out with a Hammie and Pinkston out with Sean-Taylor-itis, I will be watching to see who on the Eagles can step up to be a ligit NFL WR. If the answer is no one, that can only be good for us.

Also, the revamped D-line for Philly will be an object of focus. They have a lot of talent on paper there. If it can learn to play well together it should be a terrific unt.

Still, a meteor would be great.

[FanFromArizona]

Normally when you play a team with lackluster receivers, you put 8 in the box...But against the Eagles...8 in the box? Why? Philly has to try to establish a run game RIGHT AWAY or their receivers are going to have an even tougher time this year than most of us are expecting...


Yeah, for the Eagles, it might be the exact reverse methodology when defending against them. It's going to be a lot to closer to 7 in coverage and 4 up front when defending against Philly. Defenses are going to make Philly beat them on the ground and will try to take away the passing game. I can see a linebacker/safety on Westbrook and #1 CB on Brown and #2 CB on their TE, and man up on their other receivers.

[helimech24]

Especially how the announcing team sounds. Cant wait to hear how Al Michaels and John Madden sound together. Oh wait...:banghead:Chris Collinsworth is also going to be on it. Ugh, I real hate that dude.

[shally]

It'll be interesting to watch if porter's dissatisfaction rears itself in the game.
If Porter wants to succeed in getting traded, he will need to produce on the field.

exactly my thoughts as well... he will look to put up some good catches

[shally]

Was he in a car accident of some sort? I saw his face during the Hall of Fame broadcast yesterday and I thought I was watching a Nightmare on Elm Street movie. Maybe it was just the lighting.

As for the game, I want to see how McNabb does for the five plays he's in, as well as how the Raiders offense looks.

he needs to get the name of jerry jones plastic surgeon...

[SkinsGal]

As far as the game, with Brown out with a Hammie and Pinkston out with Sean-Taylor-itis

Reggie Brown is supposed to play in the game. Their only receiver out is Pinkston, which seems like more of a blessing than a curse for them. That kid Baskett is supposed to start too.

[redskin_rich]

It'll be interesting to watch if porter's dissatisfaction rears itself in the game.
If Porter wants to succeed in getting traded, he will need to produce on the field.
I'm pretty sure Porter did not make the trip with the team. He is done as a Raider.

[FanFromArizona]

I'm pretty sure Porter did not make the trip with the team. He is done as a Raider.

Where did you hear that[Porter not making the trip]? Link?

[redskin_rich]

Where did you hear that[Porter not making the trip]? Link?
I don't have a link, I thought I heard it on sportscenter or on the radio yesterday. We'll see in an hour, I'm sure it will be reported before the game if it's true.

[CarMike]

Just about time for the kickoff to the 2006 season! How great is it to have football back!

[CarMike]

What a terrible series for the Raiders. 3 runs and a penalty for -6 yards.

Not sure if its the Raiders offense or Eagles defense.

[FanFromArizona]

I don't have a link, I thought I heard it on sportscenter or on the radio yesterday. We'll see in an hour, I'm sure it will be reported before the game if it's true.


looks like you're right.....I wonder if it's due to injury or if it's a holdout of sorts?

[lakeskin]

Larry Johnson's fantasy stock just went up and he already was number one. My goodness do the Raiders suck.

[CarMike]

Philly 7 Raiders 0

Again, not sure if its due to the Eagles offense or the lack of Raiders defense.

[InsomniaKiller]

Oakland is...just....so...awful.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Westbrook looks different. Maybe a little thicker, slower, and he's running down hill. Falling forward like Portis only it looks awkward.

[smoot]

wait.........mccants is playing special teams, hes in on punt returns :imshock:

[FanFromArizona]

Philly 7 Raiders 0

Again, not sure if its due to the Eagles offense or the lack of Raiders defense.

its more of the latter but some of the former. The run defense just STANK up the joint, the passing game there were some pretty good well-placed throws.

[FanFromArizona]

Philly D looks pretty good, no dropoff from last season.

[whitskins]

How in sweet Lord baby Jesus' name did we lose to the Raiders at home last year? That game still sickens me.

[FanFromArizona]

How in sweet Lord baby Jesus' name did we lose to the Raiders at home last year? That game still sickens me.

:banghead:
don't bring up that game. :devil2:

in my book, it was the difference maker between being the #3 seed or #6 seed.

[whitskins]

DMac laid the hit stick, hahahahaha!

[skinfanjon]

GOod God, what the heck got into DMAC?? Did you guys see that tackle?

[DarkLord91]

I thought DMAC didnt play special teams...:rolleyes:

[whitskins]

Vintage Aaron Brooks. He's been handing the ball to the other team since his days at UVA.

[FanFromArizona]

that Oakland D just ROTS! they can't stop a run for the life of them.

[FanFromArizona]

and as quickly as I say their run defense stinks, the Oakland D intercepts a pass. :banghead:

[smoot]

and as quickly as I say their run defense stinks, the Oakland D intercepts a pass. :banghead:
yeah but they only intercepted 5 all of last season

[FanFromArizona]

:banghead: Why did we let Akers go?

That man is GOLD!

55 yard field goal, and he had plenty of distance that he could have made it from 60.

[rskinsfan10]

:banghead: Why did we let Akers go?

That man is GOLD!

55 yard field goal, and he had plenty of distance that he could have made it from 60.Norval Turner...

[BurgundyNGold]

Norval Turner...
Ugh. That man is dream poison.

[shally]

How in sweet Lord baby Jesus' name did we lose to the Raiders at home last year? That game still sickens me.

and with norv at coach.. and at home...

the o line stunk more than any game last year.. they could not make a first down the entire 4th quarter and it allowed the defense to wear down finally.

[shally]

Norval Turner...

what did akers get ? a 1 game tryout i believe..

[rskinsfan10]

OUCH!!!

[rskinsfan10]

what did akers get ? a 1 game tryout i believe..Knowing Norv, he probably never really looked at him.

[whitskins]

OUCH!!!

That was freaking awesome! The only way it could have been better is if it involved three Eagles instead of just two. :)

[FanFromArizona]

A McCants sighting! Too bad he tripped over himself :banghead:

[akhhorus]

Vintage Aaron Brooks. He's been handing the ball to the other team since his days at UVA.

Shhhhh....you can hear The Game crying if you listen hard...

[Biggie]

Shhhhh....you can hear The Game crying if you listen hard...

No, wait, the Raiders are winning! 13-10! They're going to the Super Bowl!

[FanFromArizona]

No, wait, the Raiders are winning! 13-10! They're going to the Super Bowl!

they just recovered a fumble and intercepted a pass! The D is improved over last year. They are definitely the team headed to the Super Bowl. :goofy:

:lol1:

[shally]

No, wait, the Raiders are winning! 13-10! They're going to the Super Bowl!

you know that is coming next...
:lol1:

[shally]

they just recovered a fumble and intercepted a pass! The D is improved over last year. They are definitely the team headed to the Super Bowl. :goofy:

:lol1:

garcia is going to make the eagle's fans remember detmer longingly..

[BandWagon]

What are some things you'll be looking for tonight?

personally, i'll looking for the Eagles depth and how deep they'll be. Since the Starters will only play series or two, this will be a great chance to see how their bench will look this year.

I just want to see Philly lose. I take such a deep and visceral joy in seeing thme lose. Doesn't matter if it's a scrimmage, preseason, NFC Championship or Super Bowl. I LOVE when Philly loses.

[FanFromArizona]

Interesting commentary on Jerry Porter:

1. Nursing a calf injury and did not make trip.
2. Looking for a trade.
3. If he wants to be released, he needs to give back $4M of his signing bonus
4. Teammates want to know if he wants to be a Raider this year.
5. Might be in Al Davis' stinkhouse when he returns back to active status. He might find himself not active for many games this year.

[BandWagon]

How in sweet Lord baby Jesus' name did we lose to the Raiders at home last year? That game still sickens me.
Me too. for all the great things we did that one turns your stomach. When that one, we win the division and get a home playoff game. Unbelievable...

[shally]

Interesting commentary on Jerry Porter:

1. Nursing a calf injury and did not make trip.
2. Looking for a trade.
3. If he wants to be released, he needs to give back $4M of his signing bonus
4. Teammates want to know if he wants to be a Raider this year.
5. Might be in Al Davis' stinkhouse when he returns back to active status. He might find himself not active for many games this year.

following the TO playbook to a T

[FanFromArizona]

and the running game just took a hit with Perry getting injured. a little premature, but that hit looked NASTY and that he could be out for a little bit of time.

[shally]

and the running game just took a hit with Perry getting injured. a little premature, but that hit looked NASTY and that he could be out for a little bit of time.

they have 5 preseason games this year.. with any luck....

[FanFromArizona]

I just want to see Philly lose. I take such a deep and visceral joy in seeing thme lose. Doesn't matter if it's a scrimmage, preseason, NFC Championship or Super Bowl. I LOVE when Philly loses.

your wish has been heard..

Philly is now 0-1.

And Oakland is on the road to Miami with this win. Now all they need to do is get win #2.

[FanFromArizona]

they have 5 preseason games this year.. with any luck....

they report Perry has a concusssion, lost feeling but quickly regained.
Taking to hospital for precautions.

[whitskins]

Philly's first team looked sharp but they have no depth at all. Another couple of serious injuries for this team and they're right back in the mud.

[FanFromArizona]

And we are now on the clock for the next Sunday-night football game in Cincinatti next Sunday night.

[SkinsGal]

they have 5 preseason games this year.. with any luck....

That's kind of an awful thing to say. The guy was carted off on a stretcher. No need to wish injury on more of their players. It makes it seem like you aren't confident in our team to beat their team at full health.

We don't need Eagles injuries to win this year. We got them beat at full strength!

[shally]

your wish has been heard..

Philly is now 0-1.

the first of many, i hope

[hail2skins]

The Iggles first teams looked sharp. McNabb looked solid yesterday and Westbrook looked good as well. I still think they'll have issues at wide receiver but that Basket kid looks good.

[smoak]

The Iggles first teams looked sharp. McNabb looked solid yesterday and Westbrook looked good as well. I still think they'll have issues at wide receiver but that Basket kid looks good.

I really think they are going to be ok at WR. Not great, but certainly able to move the football enough to win games. If they stay healthy and consistent, I think are a 9+ win team... Scary thought, but they have that cakewalk schedule in the early going and could easily have 5 wins in the first 7 games.

We have to beat them to win the division.

[smoak]

Philly's first team looked sharp but they have no depth at all. Another couple of serious injuries for this team and they're right back in the mud.

That is the thing. I think they are the second best team in the division in terms of starting units, but wow they are razor thin.

[Patrick]

The Iggles first teams looked sharp. McNabb looked solid yesterday and Westbrook looked good as well. I still think they'll have issues at wide receiver but that Basket kid looks good.

Agree Mike .............. Only paid attention to the first team units. As a division - the NFC East is just one NASTY group of teams. Although it probably won't happen - it wouldn't surprise me to see all the teams end up with winning records (or 8-8 at worst).

Oakland will not win six games this season. Then need a QB .... BADLY~!!

[EagleAye]

Questions for all my Redskin fans>

- Did the Eagles show enough running plays to prove that Andy means what he said? (36 passes/24 rushes)

- Did McNabb do a decent job in his one series? (109 QB rating)(3 for 3)

- How did the starting DL do with their 2 series? (-3 yds given up)

Note: Why do I have a suspicion the answer will be that the Oakland OL/DL stunk so it couldn't of been because of the Eagles pressure or performance. Also, keep in mind that running back performance is a product of a good OL and the Eagles have a good one this year. Andy has alot of confidence in his OL this year, therefore you'll see more running. I know it was just a couple of series that the starters played but its consistent with whats been happening in TC this year so far.
IMO, our second team did pretty well when you consider they were playing Oakland's first team when they got the TD. I think most of the kids did well.

fanfromarizona> I could care less if the Eagles go 0-5 this preseason. All that matters is they win when it really counts.

smoak> Way to keep it real with your comments. Thanx!

[akhhorus]

Questions for all my Redskin fans>

- Did the Eagles show enough running plays to prove that Andy means what he said? (36 passes/24 rushes)

- Did McNabb do a decent job in his one series? (109 QB rating)(3 for 3)

- How did the starting DL do with their 2 series? (-3 yds given up)

Note: Why do I have a suspicion the answer will be that the Oakland OL/DL stunk so it couldn't of been because of the Eagles pressure or performance. Also, keep in mind that running back performance is a product of a good OL and the Eagles have a good one this year. Andy has alot of confidence in his OL this year, therefore you'll see more running. I know it was just a couple of series that the starters played but its consistent with whats been happening in TC this year so far.
IMO, our second team did pretty well when you consider they were playing Oakland's first team when they got the TD. I think most of the kids did well

I think you can't read that much from 1 preseason game. I think you're WAY too much into Reid's playcalling(and frankly, I hope they pound Westbrook and Moats--and Burkhalter for that matter), none of them have shown can they can take it.

[EagleAye]

I think you can't read that much from 1 preseason game. I think you're WAY too much into Reid's playcalling(and frankly, I hope they pound Westbrook and Moats--and Burkhalter for that matter), none of them have shown can they can take it.
Fair enough......can't read much from one preseason but I'll bet if it turned out differently, ya'll would say, I told ya so. I, on the other hand, will always give props when props are due.:)

Tryin' to keep it real here!

[dj_stouty]

Questions for all my Redskin fans>

- Did the Eagles show enough running plays to prove that Andy means what he said? (36 passes/24 rushes)

- Did McNabb do a decent job in his one series? (109 QB rating)(3 for 3)

- How did the starting DL do with their 2 series? (-3 yds given up)

Note: Why do I have a suspicion the answer will be that the Oakland OL/DL stunk so it couldn't of been because of the Eagles pressure or performance. Also, keep in mind that running back performance is a product of a good OL and the Eagles have a good one this year. Andy has alot of confidence in his OL this year, therefore you'll see more running. I know it was just a couple of series that the starters played but its consistent with whats been happening in TC this year so far.
IMO, our second team did pretty well when you consider they were playing Oakland's first team when they got the TD. I think most of the kids did well.

fanfromarizona> I could care less if the Eagles go 0-5 this preseason. All that matters is they win when it really counts.

smoak> Way to keep it real with your comments. Thanx!

The game was a real bore...so I didn't pay attention after the Eagle starters left the field.

But, I think the running game looked much better. Seems to me that the position battle at Center is going to end fairly quickly. There are simply more running holes when Jackson plays than when Fraley plays center. Regarding the play calling; Who knows if that ratio will stick. I have a feeling they will incorporate more runs per game this season, but not as much as they showed during the first series. Why would Reid show his hand so quickly?

Eagles' D line looked good...especially in the middle of the line. They really punched a hole through the Oakland interior line. But then again, the Raiders don't have guys like Randy Thomas who can absorb the contact. ;)

McNabb didn't play enough for me to have an opinion.

[smoak]

Questions for all my Redskin fans>

- Did the Eagles show enough running plays to prove that Andy means what he said? (36 passes/24 rushes)

-- No. I want to see the run pass balance against good teams and when the Eagles fall behind early. Can Reid stay with it down 10-0?

- Did McNabb do a decent job in his one series? (109 QB rating)(3 for 3)

-- Of course? Silly question. He looked great and maybe one day Philly fans will appreciate him.

- How did the starting DL do with their 2 series? (-3 yds given up)

Great. What are you tossing softballs just to get a pat on the back?

Note: Why do I have a suspicion the answer will be that the Oakland OL/DL stunk so it couldn't of been because of the Eagles pressure or performance. Also, keep in mind that running back performance is a product of a good OL and the Eagles have a good one this year. Andy has alot of confidence in his OL this year, therefore you'll see more running. I know it was just a couple of series that the starters played but its consistent with whats been happening in TC this year so far.
IMO, our second team did pretty well when you consider they were playing Oakland's first team when they got the TD. I think most of the kids did well.

It was a very impressive outing and they'll be tough no doubt. But you have to be worried about the depth at some positions.

fanfromarizona> I could care less if the Eagles go 0-5 this preseason. All that matters is they win when it really counts.

Fo me the record doesn't matter, but how the starters look definitely does. So far the birds look good, but Oakland is a poor team and it was only a few plays. I don't think even the most optimistic fan would expect that all year

smoak> Way to keep it real with your comments. Thanx!

I call it like I see it. I think the Eagles are a good team with an easy fourth place schedule. The combination of the two should have them in contention for a tough division. However, I also think they are razor thin at the skill positions. Brown, Pinkston, Gaffney, Basket, and McCants are not as bad as some would have you believe. However, I really dislike what you have at the RB position outside of Westbrook. I'm not a fan of Garcia, but I understan why the Eagles get him (system). I don't agree with the Eagles refusal to address the LB position. Dhani Jones is not a starter on a Super Bowl team. Trotter is a great part-time player, but shouldn't be on tyhe field in passing downs. After this season, I really think it is time to cut the cord on Kearse.

[akhhorus]

Fair enough......can't read much from one preseason but I'll bet if it turned out differently, ya'll would say, I told ya so. I, on the other hand, will always give props when props are due.:)

No, we would qualify everything we say with: "Well, it is just one preseason game...."

[skinfan43]

EVERYONE on Sportsradio 610WIP has been touting Bruce Perry as the savior of the running game, because they say he pounds the ball so well...

...what they failed to mention was that the ball gets pounded onto the turf because he fumbles so much...I was sad to see him get hurt towards the end, he's a nice kid - but I'd be surprised to see him on the team after his performance yesterday.

[LATrueRedskin]

Bruce Perry gets hurt in every single game he plays. Looks like football is not your sport, Bruce.

[Keino]

Failing that, I hope someone hits a Raider hard enough for the psychic shockwave to travel through the ether and explode Norv Turner's head.




You realize of course that Norval is in SF as OC with Vanilla Boy Mike Nolan. Yes, they've reunited the world's worst band and have doomed the 49ers to a decade of miserable failure.

[EagleAye]

EVERYONE on Sportsradio 610WIP has been touting Bruce Perry as the savior of the running game, because they say he pounds the ball so well...

...what they failed to mention was that the ball gets pounded onto the turf because he fumbles so much...I was sad to see him get hurt towards the end, he's a nice kid - but I'd be surprised to see him on the team after his performance yesterday.
Yeah, he had fumblitis in TC last year. So far this TC he's held onto the rock. Looks like he regressed. I'm very disappointed in his performance. I'm sure Andy will have some words with him after he heals.

[EagleAye]

-- No. I want to see the run pass balance against good teams and when the Eagles fall behind early. Can Reid stay with it down 10-0?

-

-- Of course? Silly question. He looked great and maybe one day Philly fans will appreciate him.



Great. What are you tossing softballs just to get a pat on the back?



It was a very impressive outing and they'll be tough no doubt. But you have to be worried about the depth at some positions.



Fo me the record doesn't matter, but how the starters look definitely does. So far the birds look good, but Oakland is a poor team and it was only a few plays. I don't think even the most optimistic fan would expect that all year

I tend to agree with most of your comments. I think the real test will come when we play the Ravens and Steelers in a couple weeks.

Those aren't softballs I'm tossing. Feel more like basketballs....:)

I'm not worried about depth, especially on the DL. Got lots of athletic young go-geters. Its funny you mentioned depth seeing that the Redskins OL depth is Jon Alston, Mike Pucillo, Jim Molinaro, Jim Jones, Kili Lefotu, Ikechuku Ndukwe, Tyson Walter, Ethan Albright.

[BandWagon]

I missed the first part of the first quarter, so I'll have to take the information here that they starting unit looked good. But from what I saw wasn't terribly impressive. I expected better decision making out of Garcia. I'm thinking that if McNabb gets hurt this year, they don't have much at QB again. Also, I agree with the previous post about depth at RB. It seems like one of them gets hurt each year and I question the ability to stay healthy. I guess this is why we play the games.

As for winning or losing....I sure was happy we won our HOF game a couple years ago. It always feels better to win regardless.

[redskin_rich]

As for winning or losing....I sure was happy we won our HOF game a couple years ago. It always feels better to win regardless.
I only remember one thing from that game in '04 and it wasn't winning.

[smoak]

I only remember one thing from that game in '04 and it wasn't winning.

Yeah, I remember being deflated after that game and on the verge of tears. I knew we were in trouble after that... Funny thing is I just told Maureen that is what I remembered about the HOF game.

[BandWagon]

Yeah, I remember being deflated after that game and on the verge of tears. I knew we were in trouble after that... Funny thing is I just told Maureen that is what I remembered about the HOF game.

I remember Sean Taylor. I wasn't anymore worried than I was after training camp...as far as quarterback play went. Jon Jansen was a downer tho.

Oh yeah and sitting there with a stadium packed with Broncos fans and them showing the highlights of the second quarter of SBXXII on the big screen. That was priceless.

[smoak]

I tend to agree with most of your comments. I think the real test will come when we play the Ravens and Steelers in a couple weeks.

Those aren't softballs I'm tossing. Feel more like basketballs....:)

I'm not worried about depth, especially on the DL. Got lots of athletic young go-geters. Its funny you mentioned depth seeing that the Redskins OL depth is Jon Alston, Mike Pucillo, Jim Molinaro, Jim Jones, Kili Lefotu, Ikechuku Ndukwe, Tyson Walter, Ethan Albright.

I'd be willing to give you a $1 for every thread where a Skins fan on this board (can't vouch for other places) is confident about our depth if you'd give me $.50 for everyone I can find where a fan is concerned.

I'd come out of top.

I agree, OT specifically is an area where I can't say we've seen someone step up and show they are a capable backup. I'm ok with the interior line that plagues us in the playoffs though. Every team is going to have areas where they are not as deep as they'd like to be. I just think the Eagles have more of those than the Skins. But again I've said that because of McNabb, Reid, the schedule, JJ (and the D), and Akers, I think the Eagles are a solid team that makes a playoff run if healthy. So it isn't like I am trashing them.

Now the over-rated giants and dallass... :rolleyes:

[Jon Jansen is money]

I only remember one thing from that game in '04 and it wasn't winning.

:cry:

[Jon Jansen is money]

Yeah, he had fumblitis in TC last year. So far this TC he's held onto the rock. Looks like he regressed. I'm very disappointed in his performance. I'm sure Andy will have some words with him after he heals.

Once he heals, he'll find another way to get injured. Ever since his UMD days he has been fragile.

[redskin_rich]

I remember Sean Taylor. I wasn't anymore worried than I was after training camp...as far as quarterback play went. Jon Jansen was a downer tho.

Oh yeah and sitting there with a stadium packed with Broncos fans and them showing the highlights of the second quarter of SBXXII on the big screen. That was priceless.
You were at the game, that's why you remember it well. Sitting at home watching the tube, all I remember clearly is hearing that Jansen had to be helped off the field (the sorry tv coverage was showing Trevor Pryce limp off) and a little while later a news alert crawl came across the screen. "Tim Brant is reporting that Jon Jansen has ruptured his achilles tendon."
Shock, anger, depression...

[BandWagon]

You were at the game, that's why you remember it well. Sitting at home watching the tube, all I remember clearly is hearing that Jansen had to be helped off the field (the sorry tv coverage was showing Trevor Pryce limp off) and a little while later a news alert crawl came across the screen. "Tim Brant is reporting that Jon Jansen has ruptured his achilles tendon."
Shock, anger, depression...

Yeah we were completely without information on the Jansen thing. I even snuck around to the player portal and asked some of the staff if he was ok and they said "yes". I've seen what you're talking about tho...I've got the game on DVD. That was a depressing news scroll, that's for sure.

[ArRiNgToN_56]

Question: What was with Jason Avant freaking out when Parry was on the ground... they kept zooming the camera up on him and he was crying with his head on the ground and stuff.

[EagleAye]

Question: What was with Jason Avant freaking out when Parry was on the ground... they kept zooming the camera up on him and he was crying with his head on the ground and stuff.
I think they're good friends.