Did Anyone Else Find Portis's Post Game Comments Odd?

[superskin]

I felt this was worthy of a separate thread.

In his post game interview with Andrea Kramer, Portis's comments struck me as odd. He mad a not-so-cryptic comment about playing football in a game "he had no business being in." And then went on to say that a) he hopes he doesnt have to play the rest of the preseason and that is what he is aiming for, and b) he "hopes" he can play in week one after "rehab."

Am I to take it that he was unhappy about being in the game at that point, even though it was still in the 1st quarter? Comments anyone?

[2Cooley]

He is just pissed off that he is hurt.

[LATrueRedskin]

He was very upset it seemed. Whether or not his comments were a result of that I'm not sure. The quote definately questioned the decision to play him, but if it was genuine or a result of frustration is unknown to me.

[nicefellow31]

I think most veteran players hate preseason games. You are not drawing your salary so they probably question the risks vs rewards.

[guess88]

I think he was just frustrated. Preseason's more about evaluating talent and getting a rythem for the team... he really didn't need to be in the game, especially as a running back who will always face lots of hard contact. Even though of course... he didn't get hurt running the ball. But yeah... frustration... dude plays his heart out on every play, i can't speak against him.

[PGiddy18]

I felt this was worthy of a separate thread.

In his post game interview with Andrea Kramer, Portis's comments struck me as add. He mad a not-so-cryptic comment about playing football in a game "he had no business being in." And then went on to say that a) he hopes he doesnt have to play the rest of the preseason and that is what he is aiming for, and b) he "hopes" he can play in week one after "rehab."

Am I to take it that he was unhappy about being in the game at that point, even though it was still in the 1st quarter? Comments anyone?

I wasn't crazy about the comment. I can understand his frustration at being injured, but come on now. It didn't seem like the Portis that has done interviews of the past. He had "no business being in" isn't true at all. It was the first quarter! You are a starter, you play with the starters. I'm going to say it was frustration, as the shoulder injury could be serious. He showed great hustle getting to the guy, its just a shame that he landed the way he did.

[Skinsguy1]

Yea that definitely wasn't the, "Hey these things happen . I'm just gonna work hard and do what the coaches tell me to do," type answer.

While I understand the frustration of the injury, those comments seemed out of character.

[2Cooley]

We are gonna need to betts to be healthy cause portis is gonna have this thing buggin him all season

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i think he is just really upset about the fact that he suffered an injury in a meaningless game. not sure it was directed to the coaches or just the fact that he doesnt like preseason games altogether.

[redskin_rich]

I didn't find it odd, just very candid. I understand Portis being mad but everybody has to get some preseason work. It's unfortunate and this injury will nag Portis for a couple months but this is football and this happens. Portis is tough, he will fight through it.

[bigcmr]

He seemed kinda mad. But I hope he is more positive.

[superskin]

Yea that definitely wasn't the, "Hey these things happen . I'm just gonna work hard and do what the coaches tell me to do," type answer.

While I understand the frustration of the injury, those comments seemed out of character.

Exactly, and I was hoping to hear "Oh, yeah I'll be ready come opening day" or at least ONE uplifting comment. Instead, it was alot of "I hope, I hope, I hope." For a moment there, I thought the demons of Lavar had possessed his body.

Patti was right in her prior comment - this DEFINITELY wasnt the Clinton interview that we are accustomed to.

[akhhorus]

Pain and frustration(maybe at himself). I don't think he was calling out the coaches.

[colkurtz]

Not a great interview, but the guy is speaking the truth, not just the usual politically correct answers.

Personally I would have rather seen some of the backup RB's running behind the first string OL to see what they could really do. But then I'm not the coach.

[RedskinsVision]

As much as I wasn't fond of his comments, I'm sure he's just as much not fond of his injury. We all say things we don't mean when we're upset and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I hope he knows he's not above any other player in the NFL starter who plays in the first preseason game. I mean, I did see Chris Samuels running 50 yards downfield trying to make that tackle as well.

[AliBabba]

Exactly, and I was hoping to hear "Oh, yeah I'll be ready come opening day" or at least ONE uplifting comment. Instead, it was alot of "I hope, I hope, I hope." For a moment there, I thought the demons of Lavar had possessed his body.

Patti was right in her prior comment - this DEFINITELY wasnt the Clinton interview that we are accustomed to.
I believe that was the voice of frustration. I don't think CP will sound like that tomorrow after he has slept on it. Right now he is more upset, angry, scared than any of us

[lakeskin]

You cant be too thrilled either that your backup, aka the porcelin doll, was a late scratch and didnt have to play.

[SonnyandSam]

I think we just heard a lot of frustration....and some honesty. What good does it do to say..."sure, I'll be ready on opening day" when he has no clue how serious the injury is at this point. Players say that stuff all the time and THEY have no clue...they're not doctors or ATs.

And vets never want to play in pre season. It was early in the quarter.

But that should put to rest anyone's argument that Clinton ever gives less than 100 percent. He came from a long way to make that tackle and then put the guy down with authority. Afterall...it was just a preseason game that he should not be in.....right?

Very impressive effort on his part.

[inevitable]

I had this kind of injury happen to my ankle as a senior in high school the first day of practice. It took me 4 weeks to recover, so hopefully w/ the superior training techniques of professional football he'll be good to go by the 11th.

That being said, I was kind of suprised by Portis, as in the past he has always kind of joked around about not wanting to play in the preseason, and the injury this evening gave fuel to the fire. I believe that everyone needs play during the preseason because as we saw tonight, things aren't as pretty as they can seem in practice.

When I found out that there was no broken bones, I was relieved, however, as stated above, I'm afraid this is one of those injuries that will nag Portis for the entire year.

I can imagine how frusterated he is after dealing with those recurrent 'stingers' at the end of last season, and having something else happen to his shoulder this early in the year.

When that kind of thing happens, its very easy to be down. I just hope he heals up properly, because I don't know about you guys, but Portis looked like 150% muscle standing there on the sideline this evening.

he looks more solid then I've ever seen him before.

[superskin]

I want to interject that Clinton is my boy, and in no way am I trying to rag on him. It was just a little shocking and a "downer" to hear frustration and uncertainty from such an unflappable and laid back guy.

[Emmanouel8]

I guess comments like those are why Gibbs doesn't injured players interviewed?!

[ConradCountry]

He is simply upset because he got hurt in a useless game. Emotions are high and he was a little weird.

[AliBabba]

yeh he is definitely NOT happy

EDIT: this is based on his postgame Redskins.com interview

Supe I agree that I don't like hearing this from the most laid back guy CP, but this really rattled him I guess

[colkurtz]

He'll be back to his own self tommorrow and after he has more words from the doctors and rehab people.

Don't think they should have interviewed him after the game. Thats why Gibbs won't allow interviews during the game.

[tbfoster1]

yeh he is definitely NOT happy

yeah, he was definitly upset in that press conference.

[AliBabba]

n/k ... let him sleep on it. i'm sure he'll be upbeat soon.

[redskinz#1fan]

He has said numerous times before in interviews that he doesn't like or want to play in preseason games, so I think he was just making reference to that. Yes it didn't seem like his usual self, but he will be a different man tomorrow.

[Dept_of_Defense]

I kinda agree with CP. After that 8 yard run, they should've taken him out of the game. Not worth the risk because everyone knows that we are not the same team without him. Period.

[superskin]

UPDATE: At the press conference, Portis seems as though he has calmed down considerably.

He said that after his 8 yard run, he was "like, put me out of the game" (and he said this laughingly). He went on to say that the injury could have happened on any play, and things like that happen in football.

He sounded ALOT more like the Portis I know. I can sleep a little better tonight now. :)

[bigcmr]

Does anyone know how long will he be out???

[PGiddy18]

UPDATE: At the press conference, Portis seems as though he has calmed down considerably.

He said that after his 8 yard run, he was "like, put me out of the game" (and he said this laughingly). He went on to say that the injury could have happened on any play, and things like that happen in football.

He sounded ALOT more like the Portis I know. I can sleep a little better tonight now. :)

Can somebody PLEASE post a link to this, it might be my computer, or somebody in my family put up an anti-redskins firewall, but i can't find it anywhere.

[becky]

I wasn't crazy about the comment. I can understand his frustration at being injured, but come on now. It didn't seem like the Portis that has done interviews of the past. He had "no business being in" isn't true at all. It was the first quarter! You are a starter, you play with the starters. I'm going to say it was frustration, as the shoulder injury could be serious. He showed great hustle getting to the guy, its just a shame that he landed the way he did.

Agreed, it wasn't the best thing to say because it comes off like he is irritated with the coaches, but he's a human being and an incredible athlete and I'm sure he HATES being injured even more than we hate him being injured (if that's possible). I know vets always hate playing in preseason, but it was the right thing to have him in there. They are still trying to adjust to a new offensive scheme and he wasn't in an excessive amount by any stretch. What happened to him was unfortunate and I'm sure he was just very frustrated. Plenty of us have said much worse in the heat of the moment.

[RedskinsVision]

That smile of his certainly put us back to ease. Let's just hope he'll be ready in 29 days.

[70chip-on-1]

yeah, he was definitly upset in that press conference.


Woah.. I just watched the press conference live on redskins.com and he was steamed.. He ranted for 5 minutes about it. He didn't seem too optimistic about the injury either. This is definitely going to be the story tomorrow.. :banghead:

[Dept_of_Defense]

Does anyone know how long will he be out???
Yeah, what's the timeline for an injury like this? Assuming that it's just a partial dislocation.

[gibbsisgod]

in the post game presser on redskins.com Clinton felt he should have been taken out after his 8 yard gain. He said that vets shouldn't be playing in preseason games cause they work all off season.

[superskin]

Woah.. I just watched the press conference live on redskins.com and he was steamed.. He ranted for 5 minutes about it. He didn't seem too optimistic about the injury either. This is definitely going to be the story tomorrow.. :banghead:

Yeah, and I thought we would make it through the preseason without a BIG story. That being said, in spite of his anger, I saw alot more of the "old" Portis in that press conference that I did in the few comments he made to Kramer after the game.

This will be ancient history come 9/11, in my opinion.

[hogs86]

Yeah, what's the timeline for an injury like this? Assuming that it's just a partial dislocation.



Shoulder Subluxation

What is a shoulder subluxation?
A shoulder subluxation is a temporary, partial dislocation of the shoulder joint. The shoulder is a ball-and-socket joint. The ball of the upper arm bone is normally held in the socket of the shoulder blade by a group of ligaments, which are strong bands of tissue that connect the bones. In a subluxation, the ball of the upper arm bone slips partially out of the shoulder socket.

How does it occur?
A shoulder subluxation can be caused by:

a fall onto your outstretched arm
a direct blow to your shoulder
having your arm forced into an awkward position.
If you have had a previous injury or if your shoulder ligaments are naturally loose, you may sublux your shoulder doing simple activities like throwing or putting on a jacket.

What are the symptoms?
Symptoms of a shoulder subluxation include:

the feeling that your shoulder has gone "in and out of joint"
looseness in your shoulder joint
pain, weakness, or numbness in your shoulder or arm.
How is it diagnosed?
Your health care provider will talk to you about your symptoms and examine you. Many times the diagnosis of a shoulder subluxation is based on your description of the injury. When your provider examines you, he or she may find that your shoulder is loose and may partially slip out of joint during the exam. Your provider may order x-rays to see if you have had any fractures.

How is it treated?
The pain from a shoulder subluxation is treated by:

putting ice packs on your shoulder for 20 to 30 minutes 3 to 4 times a day
taking anti-inflammatory medicines such as ibuprofen
avoiding activities that cause pain.
The most important treatment for the shoulder looseness that causes a subluxation is shoulder strengthening exercises. If your shoulder continues to sublux and cause pain and other symptoms, you may need surgery to correct the joint looseness.

How long will the effects last?
The length of recovery depends on many factors such as your age, health, and if you have had a previous shoulder injury. Recovery time also depends on the severity of the injury. If the subluxation has caused damage to structures inside your shoulder your recovery will take longer. If your shoulder has become loose and subluxes easily you will need ongoing rehabilitation and may need surgery.

When can I return to my normal activities?
Everyone recovers from an injury at a different rate. Return to your activities will be determined by how soon your shoulder recovers, not by how many days or weeks it has been since your injury has occurred. The goal of rehabilitation is to return you to your normal activities as soon as is safely possible. If you return too soon you may worsen your injury.

You may safely return to your activities when:

Your injured shoulder has full range of motion without pain.
Your injured shoulder has regained normal strength compared to the uninjured shoulder.
How can I prevent a shoulder subluxation?
Shoulder subluxations are often caused by accidents that

[FanFromArizona]

I think this is a complicated matter to deal with:

On the one hand I can understand not needing AS MUCH work as the rest of the scrubs, Clinton can certainly control WHAT he does when he is playing, in the limited capacity. He can certainly "go through the motions" and do his time in 2 series if he does not think he belongs in the game. The time that they should have voiced there displeasure with the amount of preseason games should have been done during the CBA extension, at this point you will need to accept the schedule the way it is.

He trumps it up to an extra 4 games in the preseason when in reality it's closer to 1.5 games total if you go with the normal playing time in preseason.

Clinton has NOBODY but himself to blame for his injury. He made the decision to make the tackle, and he got injured. I liken his injury to pitchers running full throttle down the first base line. You don't do it. You protect the asset and don't risk losing the pitcher to injury. If you are a star on the team, especially in the preseason, you let someone else make the tackle.

I am not a conspiracy type of person, but in a sense, as some have alluded to, him getting injured might be his way of getting out of preseason, and will ensure he is fresh hopefully for the regular season. The only question mark he has left us with now is to what extent this injury will linger and what impact it will make on his ability to receive the ball and block in blitz coverage. The first time he is called to do either will be a moment many fans are going to hold their breath.

I've said my peace. I will now exhale and think positive thoughts.

[redskin_rich]

Yeah, what's the timeline for an injury like this? Assuming that it's just a partial dislocation.
It's not dislocated, it popped out and popped back in. He will wear the sling for at least a week, probably two. He will struggle with full range motion for about a month and it will hurt for about two months. This is assuming that it is no worse than what is being reported now.

[BigPlayJay]

I kinda agree with CP. After that 8 yard run, they should've taken him out of the game. Not worth the risk because everyone knows that we are not the same team without him. Period.
Thats so easy to say in hindsight. It wasn't like they were grinding out tough yards after that run. He hustled to prevent a defensive touchdown on a pass play and an unusual injury happened. It's not like they should have called timeout and pulled him from the game as soon as he had one carry.
They are trying to get a totally new complicated offense down in a short enough amount of time to be contenders this year. Keeping Portis in for two series with two or three carries shouldn't be a problem for a guy who will carry it 350 times this season.

[colkurtz]

Injuries happen in football - to all teams. Although this one happened to a key player on the team, it will allow others behind him to see if they can partially fill his shoes. I'm not getting excited until we see he isn't going to be in the first real game.

At least this isn't like Jansen's injury where he's out for a whole season.

[whistleandthumb]

I agree with his feelings that he probably shouldn't have even been in the game. He said afterwards that he was ready to be taken out after his first run of 8 yards, and I tend to agree, especially if he's not going to get carries, and is just going to block for Brunell. He's right: he got injured in a game he had no business being involved in. Now, we may not have him when the season starts.

[shally]

I felt this was worthy of a separate thread.

In his post game interview with Andrea Kramer, Portis's comments struck me as odd. He mad a not-so-cryptic comment about playing football in a game "he had no business being in." And then went on to say that a) he hopes he doesnt have to play the rest of the preseason and that is what he is aiming for, and b) he "hopes" he can play in week one after "rehab."

Am I to take it that he was unhappy about being in the game at that point, even though it was still in the 1st quarter? Comments anyone?

spoken out of anger and frustration

[Axegrinder]

My guess is that he'll probably make a retraction or at least down play his comments.He'll do that for the team to limit distractions.

As for his comments,I believe that he has a point.
This is the time for others to make the team.

This reminds me of the preseason game in which Jason Seahorn[Giants] returned a kick and was not only lost for the season,but didn't play as well the rest of his career.

[BurgundyNGold]

I found them odd. He was clearly frustrated, but to me at least, I'm sure he didn't feel he shouldn't be playing before the game or when he was making that tackle, so I don't think he should be talking like that afterwards. CP, you're a football player and a very, very good one at that. You made a tackle, which is your instinct. You got hurt. Hopefully, you'll be better soon.

BTW, I guess this kills those Betts trade rumors.

[colkurtz]

My guess is that he'll probably make a retraction or at least down play his comments.He'll do that for the team to limit distractions.

As for his comments,I believe that he has a point.
This is the time for others to make the team.

This reminds me of the preseason game in which Jason Seahorn[Giants] returned a kick and was not only lost for the season,but didn't play as well the rest of his career.

I think you'll see even less of the key first string guys in during the rest of the pre-season, due to this injury.

Gibbs and Portis will smooth this over tommorrow or the next day.

[redskin_rich]

My guess is that he'll probably make a retraction or at least down play his comments.He'll do that for the team to limit distractions.

As for his comments,I believe that he has a point.
This is the time for others to make the team.

This reminds me of the preseason game in which Jason Seahorn[Giants] returned a kick and was not only lost for the season,but didn't play as well the rest of his career.
The difference is that Sehorn begged the coach [Fassel] to let him return a kick. Fassel didn't want him to do it and was PO'ed when Sehorn fumbled and got hurt.

[Axegrinder]

The difference is that Sehorn begged the coach [Fassel] to let him return a kick. Fassel didn't want him to do it and was PO'ed when Sehorn fumbled and got hurt.
It was still an unnecessary injury.

[Keino]

Does anyone know how long will he be out???

Hopefully until Sept 11.

It sounds like it's not major at all. My guess is that if we needed him for the 3rd pre-season game he could play, but I hope hope hope that he doesn't play until Sept 11.

[Keino]

BTW, I guess this kills those Betts trade rumors.


Yea because Betts stepped in admirably and....oh wait.

[colkurtz]

Yea because Betts stepped in admirably and....oh wait.

Why did he even suit up?

[BurgundyNGold]

Yea because Betts stepped in admirably and....oh wait.
No, because Portis is hurt, Rock was "eh", Kerry Carter is hurt, Lumsden is hurt and Nemo couldn't do much against the 3rd team. Oh, wait... :rolleyes:

[DoGood]

I was as surprised as some of the others in this thread concerning Portis' comments. I'm not putting much stock into it, but that didn't seem like the usual "measured" Portis that I am used to listening to in interviews.

[smoak]

I felt this was worthy of a separate thread.

In his post game interview with Andrea Kramer, Portis's comments struck me as odd. He mad a not-so-cryptic comment about playing football in a game "he had no business being in." And then went on to say that a) he hopes he doesnt have to play the rest of the preseason and that is what he is aiming for, and b) he "hopes" he can play in week one after "rehab."

Am I to take it that he was unhappy about being in the game at that point, even though it was still in the 1st quarter? Comments anyone?

It was odd Supes and to be honest, Portis was not one of my favorites until down the stretch last season. He tends to run his mouth a little too much for my tastes. He shouldn't have said anything that even hinted at dissention in the ranks, and if he doesn't want to be on the field in preseason, then he should go drive an ice cream truck.

That said, I love his passion and effort on the field and I really hope he makes a full recovery.

[smoak]

I think you'll see even less of the key first string guys in during the rest of the pre-season, due to this injury.

Gibbs and Portis will smooth this over tommorrow or the next day.

See, I think that if we shelve the starters, then the offense will suffer. We need to work out the kinks.

[vabeach_skinsfan]

I felt this was worthy of a separate thread.

In his post game interview with Andrea Kramer, Portis's comments struck me as odd. He mad a not-so-cryptic comment about playing football in a game "he had no business being in." And then went on to say that a) he hopes he doesnt have to play the rest of the preseason and that is what he is aiming for, and b) he "hopes" he can play in week one after "rehab."

Am I to take it that he was unhappy about being in the game at that point, even though it was still in the 1st quarter? Comments anyone?

I did hear some furstration in his voice and he did seem to be upset during the interview. I don't know if I agree or not, it just seemed awkward that he was speaking like that.....I mean it was the first quarter, 1rst offensive series......and he got the injury making a tackle.......not rushing the ball.

I think Portis understands why he was in there, and I think it was just pure frustration that had him speaking like that.

[BigPlayJay]

Yea because Betts stepped in admirably and....oh wait.

No lie! Who on this planet except clueless network play-by-play announcers thinks Betts could be an every-down back? When was the last time he made it through a whole training camp without getting hurt?

[Patrick]

This only support my view point that preseaon is meaningless and NOT needed. Two or three scrimmages over the course of three weeks would be enough. Don't blame CP for venting his opinon.

[Keino]

No, because Portis is hurt, Rock was "eh", Kerry Carter is hurt, Lumsden is hurt and Nemo couldn't do much against the 3rd team. Oh, wait... :rolleyes:

The point being is that someone is interested in a back-up RB that cannot stay healthy enough to perform that function and becomes a Free agent next year. Maybe we should get while the getting is good, because Nemo and Rock both looked better than Betts did.....they played.

[Smiley]

Funny you mentioned his comments Superskin. I thought as soon as he was hurt "why is he in there?" I know he needs to get in the flow and it's a new system and obviously the coaches know a lot more about this stuff than we do but....it's Clinton Portis. I'm also thinking this is a blessing in disguise for Portis.......we'll see you on Monday Night Football brother!

[lightskin]

If Portis had not been injured do you think Al would have made him play in the rest of the games?

[GibbsFan]

If Portis had not been injured do you think Al would have made him play in the rest of the games?
Today 09:28 AM

Yup, I think he would have had 3-4 carries against the Jets, 5-7 against the Pats, and 7-10 against the Ravens.

[bantu]

Yup, I think he would have had 3-4 carries against the Jets, 5-7 against the Pats, and 7-10 against the Ravens.

Do we play the Ravens last? If so, he would have gotten 0-2 carries at the most. Starters hardly play the last game.

[superskin]

Do we play the Ravens last? If so, he would have gotten 0-2 carries at the most. Starters hardly play the last game.


We do, and I agree. His carries would have peaked against the Pats, and he would have saw little or no action against the Ravens.

Well, its a moot issue now.

[AGibbsGirl]

Well, I won't back down from what I said last night, don't care how frustrated, tired or hurt he was, he is a professional! His job is to do what his Coach tells him to do and to live with the decision. He is not playing Pee Wee football here, he signed up to play these games, he knew he was playing these games, if he had a problem playing these games then he goes to the coach, do not air your laundry in the media, it cause discontent, if we are discussing this...you better know the team is discussing this...no locker room drama this year, remember? I'm curious to see if anyone asks Gibbs about this, I'm watching George and Sonny tonight for sure!

That being said, unless you are coming off an injury year, why must a starter play in the pre-season? I would rather save their health, and endurance for the season. I would rather save those "extra" games for the playoffs.

Also, I would rather use the time to showcase the new guys who are trying to make the team.

[Redskinfan28]

Well, I won't back down from what I said last night, don't care how frustrated, tired or hurt he was, he is a professional! His job is to do what his Coach tells him to do and to live with the decision. He is not playing Pee Wee football here, he signed up to play these games, he knew he was playing these games, if he had a problem playing these games then he goes to the coach, do not air your laundry in the media, it cause discontent, if we are discussing this...you better know the team is discussing this...no locker room drama this year, remember? I'm curious to see if anyone asks Gibbs about this, I'm watching George and Sonny tonight for sure!

That being said, unless you are coming off an injury year, why must a starter play in the pre-season? I would rather save their health, and endurance for the season. I would rather save those "extra" games for the playoffs.

Also, I would rather use the time to showcase the new guys who are trying to make the team.

Well said!

[hail2skins]

Portis was upset with the amount of time he was in the game. He wasn't upset about being in the game at all. As mentioned earlier, he thought he should have been taken out after that 8 yard run. Gibbs knew he was upset and said the second guessing people will do should fall on him.

On another note, I read that Saunders wanted the 1st string oline to play longer but Gibbs drew the line and said no.

[RedHokieSkin]

The comments you guys have mentioned about being taken out of the game did seem out of character for CP. But there was another comment he made in the same breath that may have bothered me even more.

He said several times how the tackle and the 8 yard run won't even be registered in his stats. He seemed as concerned about his personal stats as he did about the good of the team. I hadn't seen this side of him before and I hope it doesn't fan into something any bigger. Hopefully, this was just the heat of the moment.

[nicefellow31]

The comments you guys have mentioned about being taken out of the game did seem out of character for CP. But there was another comment he made in the same breath that may have bothered me even more.

He said several times how the tackle and the 8 yard run won't even be registered in his stats. He seemed as concerned about his personal stats as he did about the good of the team. I hadn't seen this side of him before and I hope it doesn't fan into something any bigger. Hopefully, this was just the heat of the moment.


CP was just frustrated. He did not know the full extent of his injury and maybe in his mind he thought his season may be over. I like CP's intensity but if he thought it was such a joke for him to be playing in a preseason game, then maybe he should have let the DB go. But he is a tougher player than that. Injuries stink, but unfortuantely that is a hazzard to the game.

[CowboyKilla]

Pure frustration.

[joethefan]

IMO Injuries take place all the time, now I would have an issue if clinton was in there after 22 plays after joe said the starting offense will play 12 or 15 but bif clinton got hurt within that number then things happen, shut up get well and get back on the field.

[joethefan]

Portis was upset with the amount of time he was in the game. He wasn't upset about being in the game at all. As mentioned earlier, he thought he should have been taken out after that 8 yard run. Gibbs knew he was upset and said the second guessing people will do should fall on him.

On another note, I read that Saunders wanted the 1st string oline to play longer but Gibbs drew the line and said no.


so clinton runs for eith yards..that was like the first or second play...who does he think he is?.....You play when your coach says you play....I just don't understand these athletes these days.....

Maybe Clinton should coach the team....

[smoak]

Well, I won't back down from what I said last night, don't care how frustrated, tired or hurt he was, he is a professional! His job is to do what his Coach tells him to do and to live with the decision. He is not playing Pee Wee football here, he signed up to play these games, he knew he was playing these games, if he had a problem playing these games then he goes to the coach, do not air your laundry in the media, it cause discontent, if we are discussing this...you better know the team is discussing this...no locker room drama this year, remember? I'm curious to see if anyone asks Gibbs about this, I'm watching George and Sonny tonight for sure!

That being said, unless you are coming off an injury year, why must a starter play in the pre-season? I would rather save their health, and endurance for the season. I would rather save those "extra" games for the playoffs.

Also, I would rather use the time to showcase the new guys who are trying to make the team.

I totally agree and I had more than a few people ask me "What was up with Portis' comments". People are basically sensing dissention in the ranks. Portis can be great, but he need to be careful about making comments to the media ala 2004 when he called out the playcalling. I really like Clinton, but sometimes his attitude can rub me the wrong way.

Re: preseason in general, I really bellieve that established vets still need to play. This is especially the case when installing a new system, but even if all the parts are the same, there are always tweeks and wrinkles to be perfected. I think four is a dececnt amount considering that starters usually only play a series or two in two of the games (first and last). The young player need every oppotunity in the world to get on tape and impress...

The only time I would really be critical of a head coach is if they had a starter on special teams constantly in PS.