Shawn Springs Injured

[Canuck]

Just listening to Redskins Lunch with Larry Michael. They're saying Springs is injured and will be out for a bit. Official accouncement to come from the Redskins later in the day.

[smoak]

Well this is unfortunate, but not unexpected news. That has always been the knock on SS. Hopefully he gets ready and is available come 9/11 b/c I am scared to death with Wright out there now.

I have a feeling this is one of those veteran injuries teams get in camp.

[redskin_rich]

Gibbs mentioned it in the presser yesterday. Some sort of pelvic injury, I hope it's not a sports hernia.

[CNYSkinFan]

This must be the pelvis thing. hopefully it is a rest for a couple of weeks type thing and allow Wright, Jimoh, Rumph, Morton and Patterson to get some more work.

[NCskinsfanatic]

When they mentioned he had to see a specialist and with his injury history I was worried this was coming. This is why we got Rumph IMO, not just due to Reeds play at the safety position.

[Canuck]

They're saying that Springs had the same procedure on his groin that John Hall had last year.

[joethefan]

I think springs will be ok...and ready for the season...who knows...maybe that was why they brought in Rumph.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Just listening to Redskins Lunch with Larry Michael. They're saying Springs is injured and will be out for a bit. Official accouncement to come from the Redskins later in the day.
If he misses the rest of the preseason, then frankly, it's no big deal at all..if he starts missing games, I'll be very worried. We aren't exceptionally deep at CB unless Wright and Jimoh or somebody else step up..

[PA Skins Girl]

Bummer!! We arent the same team without Shawn. On the bright side, at least there are 4 weeks until the season opener.

[RedskinsDave]

This is not good at all. We've now had two of the four most important players on the team get hurt.

[shally]

I think springs will be ok...and ready for the season...who knows...maybe that was why they brought in Rumph.


i am not sure this is anything new.. maybe just a reaction to what happened to portis.. put aprings in and he is going to try to hit people-- and maybe hurt himself more inthe process. let him rest and rehab until the reg season,
he has nothing to prove

[PennSkinsFan]

which is why we traded for Rumph.

Unfortunately, it seems we went in to camp and went through camp relaitively lucky in the injury department, and over the last week, we have just been getting bad news after bad news.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Gibbs mentioned it in the presser yesterday. Some sort of pelvic injury, I hope it's not a sports hernia.

I read in the post that it is a continuation of the injury he had at the end of last season that caused him to miss the Bucs playoff game.

[whistleandthumb]

This was probably a factor in the Jacobs trade, and is EXACTLY why we needed more depth at CB.

[superskin]

Man, this team went through an entire offseason and two weeks of training camp with no issues - now all of this.

No, I dont think the sky is falling, but these dudes better strap 'em up and be ready to go come 9/11.

[redskin_rich]

I read in the post that it is a continuation of the injury he had at the end of last season that caused him to miss the Bucs playoff game.
That's not very encouraging.

[Redskinfan28]

If its the same injury Hall had, and his tendon has come apart from the bone, there is no way he will be ready by 9/11.

[whistleandthumb]

If its the same injury Hall had, and his tendon has come apart from the bone, there is no way he will be ready by 9/11.
Well, let's all collectively knock on wood...

[LATrueRedskin]

Yeah, I think this injury is going to linger, as it probably already has been. I'm not too excited to find out what the problem is.

[Redskinfan28]

Well, let's all collectively knock on wood...

Yep - we should know soon enough. Losing SS hurts worse than losing CP in my opinion simply because of who backs them up.

[superskin]

Well, let's all collectively knock on wood...


KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK...ouch, damn splinters

[IowaSkinsFan]

That's not very encouraging.

Sean came to us with a history of injury so I am not surprised by this, but I am surprised that it lingered through the offseason. Why wasn't it taken care of before camp and if it was, it took this little to re-aggravate it?

[lakeskin]

Yeah, I think this injury is going to linger, as it probably already has been. I'm not too excited to find out what the problem is.

Uggh. Are we gonna hear degenerative? This is bad.

[whistleandthumb]

Yep - we should know soon enough. Losing SS hurts worse than losing CP in my opinion simply because of who backs them up.
You mean all-pro and hR fan favorite Ade Jimoh?!? :)

[akhhorus]

I would be worried, but we barely had the starting secondary out there last year at any one time. Springs should take the rest of the preseason off to rest. Wright, Ade and Rumph can hold things down for the preseason

[shally]

I would be worried, but we barely had the starting secondary out there last year at any one time. Springs should take the rest of the preseason off to rest. Wright, Ade and Rumph can hold things down for the preseason

didn't shepherd or brown play most of an entire season for the iggles with a similar injury? it didn't bother them enough to go on IR

[X-Factor13]

You know, i would be worried, but i am just mad at this point. We go throw the entire spring and summer without a single injury, and now it's like we're making up for lost time! I hope when week 1 comes around we'll have him and CP.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

didn't shepherd or brown play most of an entire season for the iggles with a similar injury? it didn't bother them enough to go on IR
i thought they were on ir

[shally]

i thought they were on ir

you might be right, but for some reason i remembering an interview when one of them said it wasn't that bad... just annoying depending upon a specific movement

[whitskins]

didn't shepherd or brown play most of an entire season for the iggles with a similar injury? it didn't bother them enough to go on IR

Lito went on injured reserve last year for a high ankle sprain. I don't think Brown has ever been on IR.

[Sweepea436]

Any chance they are playing the injury card so they don't have to put players in, and still save face with the league? It would be smart....

[shally]

Any chance they are playing the injury card so they don't have to put players in, and still save face with the league? It would be smart....

after portis, who could blame them?

[Sweepea436]

after portis, who could blame them?

My point exactly. There are high hopes floating around DC, 3 down, 1 out in our first preseason game? I'd be thinking af ways to keep everyone safe.

[Redskinfan28]

Extremeskins is reporting that Shawn Springs underwent a medical procedure today to repair a minor tear in an abdominal muscle that attaches to the pubic bone. (Ouch) The procedure was performed by Dr. William Meyers at the Durham Regional Hospital.

[Camden]

Any chance they are playing the injury card so they don't have to put players in, and still save face with the league? It would be smart....

I doubt it. It'd be just as easy just to hold a player out for some ambiguous injury like back pain ...

Hopefully he's back soon as he's one of the key players on the Defense, but from the early rumors I think a week 2 comeback would be best for him. Rest the injury and come back 100% for the season and not 90% for 3 games and then you're back out.

[MWballer]

Extremeskins is reporting that Shawn Springs underwent a medical procedure today to repair a minor tear in an abdominal muscle that attaches to the pubic bone. (Ouch) The procedure was performed by Dr. William Meyers at the Durham Regional Hospital.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=redskinssprings&prov=st&type=lgns

Heres a link....Springs looks to be out 3-4 weeks looks like Wright, Jimoh, Rumph, Morton are going to have to step up.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

pubic bone? :cry:

[Camden]

Wow, he won't be doing a running for a little back. He'll have to work hard to get the conditioning back before week 1.

[tbfoster1]

ok, we need to just line up 22 stationary bikes along the sidelines at redskins park.

[silverspring]

These reports are so vague. It sounds like a mild sports hernia to me. This sucks. Get well soon Shawn

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

wow. more bad news. :( at least it happened now and not later.

[C-7]

Lets hope he can play in the Dallas game.

[bgforever]

SS keeps enduring some of most confounded moments. Pulling for you dude.

[HanburgerBum]

Any chance they are playing the injury card so they don't have to put players in, and still save face with the league? It would be smart....


I don't get it. Why would the Skins have to "save face with the league"? There are no rules stipulating how much first stringers need to play in preseason games. Who in the NFL is pressuring Washington to play frontline players?

George Allen used to sit Larry Brown almost the entire preseason and then give him about 2 carries in the final exhibition game to get him ready for the regular season.

[bgforever]

ok, we need to just line up 22 stationary bikes along the sidelines at redskins park.

Ah yes, a timely hearty response, so badly needed. That made me laugh!

[redskin_rich]

Better now than during the season. Let's just hope this heals up properly and Springs is good to go when the season starts.

[bgforever]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=redskinssprings&prov=st&type=lgns

Heres a link....Springs looks to be out 3-4 weeks looks like Wright, Jimoh, Rumph, Morton are going to have to step up.

Our Defensive front needs to stand pat,don't try to over do it in preseason, but of course don't be tentative. They are now very key to keep things in order for the defense as well as ST and Arch.

[smoak]

Our Defensive front needs to stand pat,don't try to over do it in preseason, but of course don't be tentative. They are now very key to keep things in order for the defense as well as ST and Arch.

To me, that is the key. Got out and bang in there as good as you can until the coaching staff pulls you... then sit and enjoy the rest. But never try to play timid to avoid injury or you are inviting trouble.

[Santheb]

Well, this sucks. In all honesty, it does.

[Axegrinder]

Get well soon,Sean!!!

[S.Taylor36]

This is horrible. These injuries are really starting to mount up.

[Red Bear]

injuries are the one thing that will keep us from being a juggernaut this season, things look too good on paper for our team, lets just hope this doesnt get as bad as philly last year with injuries, or new england as well...

[bgforever]

Yeah with the overzealous wannabe's awkwardness in adjusting to when to just fall when in the grasp, or not letting up once a player is out of bounds, virtually tackling a defensive lineman, or no regard for their own player, to make the team.

They are desperate and forget the ettiquite of live for another play, when it is clear the QB threw the ball already, or the play died a few seconds ago ,so there's no need to go flying through the air like underdog , for your homies to see your number on the screen!

You're playing roulette with your best players against a guy, who last week was really in an unemployment line a few months ago, or reading about teams and hopnig his phone would ring, back in late april or early may. Some cleat other players (ok rubber them, if using today's shoes, step on limbs without field awareness still, etc.). Yet they continue to play the games.

Maybe they should have a preseason where the 2nd and 3rd stringers are in a JR league game 3-4 times and there's only 2 preseason games for the Starters. who knows.

[Canuck]

According to Redskns.com, he'll be out 3-6 weeks.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=18829

[shally]

Yeah with the overzealous wannabe's awkwardness in adjusting to when to just fall when in the grasp, or not letting up once a player is out of bounds, virtually tackling a defensive lineman, or no regard for their own player, to make the team.

They are desperate and forget the ettiguite of live for another play when it is clear the QB threw the ball already or the play died a few seconds ago so there's no need to go flying through the air like underdog for your homies to see your number on the screen!

Your playing roulette with your best players against a guy, who last week was really in an unemployment line a few months ago or reading about teams and hopnig his phone would ring back in late april or early may. Some cleat other players (ok rubber them if using today's shoes, step on limbs with field awareness still, etc.). Yet they continue to play the games.

Maybe they should have a preseason where the 2nd and 3rd stringers are in a JR league game 3-4 times and there's only 2 preseason games for the Starters. who knows.

you make a lot of sense. inthe old days when players actually had real jobs inthe off season like driving a beer truck or paving roads, they needed a few games to get used to playing football (and to take off 20 pounds of flab).. now it is a year round job and there is no excuse for a player to get out of shape inthe off season

preseason should only be to showcase those players trying to make a team.
let those gladiators play amongst themselves. it is folly to risk a starter in that kind of circus

[whistleandthumb]

injuries are the one thing that will keep us from being a juggernaut this season, things look too good on paper for our team, lets just hope this doesnt get as bad as philly last year with injuries, or new england as well...
Yup. If we get beatup now, and can never get healthy, it'll be our most promising season in a long time down the tubes. The way GW designs our defense, we can't be without our star CB's, and we certainly can't be mediocre in the secondary. Plus, if CP is going to be out for any significant time in the regular season, we're going to need to rely on our defense to keep the games close, and having a banged up secondary isn't going to help.

Please get better soon, Springs!!! You're so valuable to this team's success!!

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

the injury's are starting to mount, i don't like the way this is starting. smh

[DCassain21]

bad bad news.....something i did not want to heppen

[RichardBradley]

Sorry but the suprising thing about Springs is he has played as much as he has since he has been here he is an accident waithing to happen

[tbfoster1]

Yup. If we get beatup now, and can never get healthy, it'll be our most promising season in a long time down the tubes. The way GW designs our defense, we can't be without our star CB's, and we certainly can't be mediocre in the secondary. Plus, if CP is going to be out for any significant time in the regular season, we're going to need to rely on our defense to keep the games close, and having a banged up secondary isn't going to help.

Please get better soon, Springs!!! You're so valuable to this team's success!!

yeah, cornerback play is key in GWs defense but hopefully some of that burden can be taken away by our defensive line this year. Hopefully they stay healthy and get the pressure we think they can get. That could allow GW to lay off the blitzing if need be and still have an extrememly effective defense

[whitskins]

This sounds like one of those injuries that guys try to ignore early in the season and it blows up later on to become a much bigger problem. I'm glad we just caught it early and hopefully it won't nag him for the rest of the year.

He has about four weeks until the regular season, I think he'll make it back in time for Week One.

[esmith1790]

i agree that he should have had it checked out in the off-season so it wont be poping up now, unless he hurt in recently... like someone said earlier that you guys have been lucky to get him playing healthy for so long as you have.

In regards to the Eagles DB comments being the same type of injury... the eagles secondary suffered last year for it too! I liked the getting the bikes in the camp, trying to be like the boys. we set a bad example.

[RichardBradley]

He has been injured since he left Ohio State

[Shabba]

Hope he gets better soon. This just might be something that lingers.

[silverspring]

Thinking about this, a lot of guys like recently brady and mcnabb have made complete full recoveries from minor sports hernias. Other guys have had them plague their careers. I tend to think/hope his will fall in the full recovery category cause like him mcnabb and brady were still functioning with their injuries. The guys with the serious tears can't even practice so lets hope minor is minor. My only concern is i would still think 4 weeks is a pretty quick time table to heal such an "internal" injury like this. I would tend to guess he will miss a game or two, but i would rather him miss two games at the beginning then have messed up for the whole season. I do also remember brady playing in a golf tournament like a week after his surgery saying it was fine so we might really luck out here. ...Trying to stay positive.

[Dolla Bill]

From KFFL:

Redskins | Springs injury update
Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:36:35 -0700

Updating previous reports, ESPNews reports Washington Redskins CB Shawn Springs (abdominal) could now miss up to six weeks of action due to abdominal surgery.

It looks like that he might be back for the Cowboys game, but he will have to heal quickly.

[BIGSEF3]

Wow. We need him against the cowboys. Springs knows T.O. inside and out. He has embarrassed T.O. in every game he played with the Eagles.

In 2004, T.O. amassed a whoping 6 catches for 70 yards and no touchdowns in 2 GAMES against the skins. By my math, and courtesy of nfl.com's player stats, T.O. is 21 catches for 235 yards in 5 gaves when matched up with Springs (assuming spring's was the DB covering T.O. for the catches when he was with Seattle). That's an average of 47 yards per game. See where I'm going with this?

Springs OWNS T.O. Defensively, Springs being healthy is KEY to going 3 in a row against Dallass.

[tbfoster1]

From KFFL:



It looks like that he might be back for the Cowboys game, but he will have to heal quickly.

hopefully he'll be able to condition before the MINN game but rest it, contact wise, until the girls game

[toolman24266]

Who would start if Springs Can't go come 9/11

[akhhorus]

Wow. We need him against the cowboys. Springs knows T.O. inside and out. He has embarrassed T.O. in every game he played with the Eagles.

In 2004, T.O. amassed a whoping 6 catches for 70 yards and no touchdowns in 2 GAMES against the skins. By my math, and courtesy of nfl.com's player stats, T.O. is 21 catches for 235 yards in 5 gaves when matched up with Springs (assuming spring's was the DB covering T.O. for the catches when he was with Seattle). That's an average of 47 yards per game. See where I'm going with this?

Springs OWNS T.O. Defensively, Springs being healthy is KEY to going 3 in a row against Dallass.

No, Springs can't cover TO. Taylor can and does. He's the reason TO was shut down against the Skins.

Who would start if Springs Can't go come 9/11

Rogers/Wright.

[shally]

No, Springs can't cover TO. Taylor can and does. He's the reason TO was shut down against the Skins.



Rogers/Wright.

at least we should have springs well for the second half of the season, if not sooner. he is so physical on the blitz that he will be missed for that as much as anything. another reason for the rumph signing..

[akhhorus]

at least we should have springs well for the second half of the season, if not sooner. he is so physical on the blitz that he will be missed for that as much as anything. another reason for the rumph signing..

Well, Rumph/Wright/Rogers and Jimoh should be able to hold things down. They'll play more Cover 2 for sure. I also think you'll see Taylor play some Cb also.

[silverspring]

Rogers/Wright.

I know we haven't seen him this year, but we have seen wright so i would probably lean towards rogers/jimoh. I don't know that much about wright but i am guessing jimoh has better man coverage skills. Although it seems like every year jimoh's first outing is a bit rough.

[akhhorus]

I know we haven't seen him this year, but we have seen wright so i would probably lean towards rogers/jimoh. I don't know that much about wright but i am guessing jimoh has better man coverage skills. Although it seems like every year jimoh's first outing is a bit rough.

Wright is a solid player, despite his performance in the Cincy game(Chris Henry is a tough cover for anyone, except a grand jury and Wright saved a TD with his PI, which is what he's supposed to do). They'll play more zone for sure, hopefully Rumph can contribute.

[X-Factor13]

Somebody said it'll be 6 weeks before he recovers?!



:cry:

[Smurf85]

All i know is are depth is real bad.To tell you the truth i thought we we're a Suuperbowl team.Now after the injurys and watching our backups play.I dont know if we have the right players to go a whole season.Depth is important and i dont think we have it.

[LATrueRedskin]

I know we haven't seen him this year, but we have seen wright so i would probably lean towards rogers/jimoh. I don't know that much about wright but i am guessing jimoh has better man coverage skills. Although it seems like every year jimoh's first outing is a bit rough.

We've only seen Wright play one game, although it was a bad one. But the guy played and occasionaly started for the very good Jacksonville defense last year. I'm sure he's a better player than we saw, Henry just has his number.

[akhhorus]

All i know is are depth is real bad.To tell you the truth i thought we we're a Suuperbowl team.Now after the injurys and watching our backups play.I dont know if we have the right players to go a whole season.Depth is important and i dont think we have it.

*rubs my temples* You might have a point if Portis misses more than 2 regular seasons games. Losing Springs hurts, but he was hurt a lot last year(missed 2 games and parts of many others) and the defense survived.

[Smurf85]

*rubs my temples* You might have a point if Portis misses more than 2 regular seasons games. Losing Springs hurts, but he was hurt a lot last year(missed 2 games and parts of many others) and the defense survived.


I just not happy with our depth right now.Now CP i think he will play the opener.The question is will he hurt himself again.I mean that injury could cause problems all year.The secondary after i starters we really dont have anything.

[MWballer]

All i know is are depth is real bad.To tell you the truth i thought we we're a Suuperbowl team.Now after the injurys and watching our backups play.I dont know if we have the right players to go a whole season.Depth is important and i dont think we have it.

Everyone needs to relax well be fine...Springs injury hurts but GW is already thinking up of ways to make Wright look good and our pass rush is better this year this will take pressure off our DB's in the first place. We will be ok odviously the coaches saw this comming because the trade for Rumph was made before the public announcement of the injury. The loss of Portis hurts as well but L. Betts is more than a serviceable back up we have the WR's that won't allow a D to stack 8 in the box anymore which will make Cartwright, Betts etc... look much better. Plus were playing the Vikings, Cowboys, and Texans in our first three games I think that with our roster now we can hang with each and everyone of those teams and should come out of that stretch no worst than 2-1...After the first three games thats when the real comp begins and by then Springs and CP should be back.

[akhhorus]

I just not happy with our depth right now.Now CP i think he will play the opener.The question is will he hurt himself again.I mean that injury could cause problems all year.The secondary after i starters we really dont have anything.

We made it last year with Jimoh and Harris playing significant time at CB. We'll be fine. Even if Springs misses a few games.

[whitskins]

Our depth is fine, people need to stop jumping off bridges about Kenny Wright. Do you all remember how Carlos Rogers was treated last preseason? GW hung him out to dry in single coverage on every play. He's trying to evaluate his new players by throwing them into the fire.

If Wright is forced into starting duty you can bet your life that Sean Taylor is gonna be attached at his hip. Obviously Wright didn't have that luxury in the preseason game and was left one on one on Chris Henry several times (who may be the best #3 WR in the game).

You can't look at an entire team full of backups and make any reasonable attempt to evalutate the depth. Some of those guys are going to be driving dump trucks in a few weeks. A backup player forced into starting duty will have stronger players alongside them helping to mask their weaknesses, not an undrafted free agent who has a miniscule chance of making the team. So let's not freak out just yet.

[ryflan47]

We made it last year with Jimoh and Harris playing significant time at CB. We'll be fine. Even if Springs misses a few games.

Speaking of who, I wonder if Jimoh improved over the offseason.

[becky]

Our depth is fine, people need to stop jumping off bridges about Kenny Wright.


Agreed, let's not throw the season under the bus before it has even begun. These injuries are sucky and stressful, but we have the most talented defensive coordinator in the league when it comes to masking weakness in players and playing to their strengths, so I think we'll be okay even if Springs misses a few games.. and then hopefully we'll get him back (and healthy) in time to rock and roll.

[tbfoster1]

Speaking of who, I wonder if Jimoh improved over the offseason.

I'm sure he has. He has improved a little with each year. He has alot of speed which was evident when he would close on a reciever that had already burned him, but he has been closing that gap with each year. I think he is a pretty good tackler as well especially if the receiver is in front of him. I'm sure Gray has helped him progress with his mechanics this offseason. Now he just needs to get that sternum under control and get out there.

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

ive got a feeling we are all getting worked up because its the off season and it NAME players we are talking about. However once our team plays we will probably see why there are 53 on a roster. Portis hurts more then Springs IMO. Heck we played without our top 2 or 3 last year in denver I believe. We gave them a run for thier money too and the running game actually let us down in that one. I think if Cp comes around Springs will be back and healthy right around the same time and then we will be full strength.

[Skins4life]

GW is a master mind. I agree that CB depth is weak. But remember, GW also knows this and will have this team ready.

Thank God the Bye week is smack dab in the center of the schedule

[IMALILTEAPOT]

*rubs my temples* You might have a point if Portis misses more than 2 regular seasons games. Losing Springs hurts, but he was hurt a lot last year(missed 2 games and parts of many others) and the defense survived.
the defense "survived", but we were beat over the top too many times last year. i dont know if springs will miss any reg season games, but this hurts our pass defense a lot and im not comfortable with rogers coverin T.O.

[akhhorus]

the defense "survived", but we were beat over the top too many times last year. i dont know if springs will miss any reg season games, but this hurts our pass defense a lot and im not comfortable with rogers coverin T.O.

We got beat by that a lot last year when Taylor wasn't on the field. The 1st Tampa game being the best example of that. And Springs can't cover TO anyways. Taylor does that. And we had a top 10 defense overall and were the 10th best passing defense last year despite all the injuries.

[lakeskin]

We got beat by that a lot last year when Taylor wasn't on the field. The 1st Tampa game being the best example of that. And Springs can't cover TO anyways. Taylor does that. And we had a top 10 defense overall and were the 10th best passing defense last year despite all the injuries.

Yeah. Teams dont even try to go deep on us when Sean is on the field.

[danny's stogie]

...and furthermore, Doom and Gloomers, we also can't look at these Redskins injuries in a vaccum, every team in the league ends up with injuries to starters and key players. GW has proven for two seasons in a row that he can pretty much throw anyone out there and get results. He does a great job covering weaknesses and utilizing to the full capacity the team's strengths. There are several players on the Skins -- who I will not name -- who if they happened to get injured would be a much bigger loss.

[Smurf85]

If you guys watch the GW interview on Redskins.com.GW said that he thinks Springs will be back fast,because of the shape he is in.He also said it was good timing for this injury.