If Al Gore were President...

[Skinzaholic]

If Al Gore had won the Presidential election then things would be MUCH different then they are tight now...


1. We would still be negotiating with Osama Bin Laden... perhaps suggesting that we help fund his fight against the rebels in trade for him not attacking our cities.

2. 1000 Iraqi's a day would have continued to be tortured and killed.

3. Terrorism would be at an all time high... with fear a reality.


Boy... I sure am grateful to those few hundred voters in Florida.

[jporterweb]

exactly Skinz. And, for the record I'm tired of hearing "Iraqis don't want us there" No, Iraqis don't want anyone there. They just don't understand fully that we have to be there for them to be free. As soon as we can give them the country back, we will do that. I just hope that Bush wins re-election. Otherwise, our troops will be pulled out, and armageddon will begin.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
If Al Gore had won the Presidential election then things would be MUCH different then they are tight now...


1. We would still be negotiating with Osama Bin Laden... perhaps suggesting that we help fund his fight against the rebels in trade for him not attacking our cities.

2. 1000 Iraqi's a day would have continued to be tortured and killed.

3. Terrorism would be at an all time high... with fear a reality.


Boy... I sure am grateful to those few hundred voters in Florida.


Man, wait till Spence gets a whiff of this. He's gonna unload on us Extremist Right Wingers.

However, well said Skinz!

[Spence]

It's amazing how Al Gore has been turned into a traitor and a weakling by the right wing. You guys are truly hateful.

[circumstance]

i'm sorry, but just the fact that you think you can make this assessment is absolutely preposterous. i could also say that if we had nothing but bushies for the past half-century then we'd be the victim of an ever-relentless wave of terrorism and world hatred by virtue of our "God, Glory, Gold" take on the international affairs--a peculiar, but by no means new, blend of extreme moralism fed not so much with a view towards humanity, but more so with profiteering, rationalized with shallow, open-ended catchphrases like 'freedom.'

[Skinzaholic]

Come on now.... isnt politics fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[jsarno]

going with the thread topic "If al gore were president", I'd have to say that I'd move to Canada.
That guy deserves to be president about as much as Ross Perot deserves it...I take that back, Perot would have done 10 times better than Gore would.

[TexSkin]

Darrell Green should run for president...now thats a person I would get behind no matter what political affilation. :D

[Skinzaholic]

Originally posted by TexSkin
Darrell Green should run for president...now thats a person I would get behind no matter what political affilation. :D


Agreed!

[BigCountry]

Just wondering here, were the huge number of Iraqies we killed and the number of Iraqies they killed any differant? Is the people killed by the ruthless dictators our donkey's behind of a president is buddies differant too? I don't know how Gore would do as president but this heroin sniffing idiot doesn't seem any better.

[Green-Is-Good]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
2. 1000 Iraqi's a day would have continued to be tortured and killed.

in the past decade, THE U.S. has murdered 500,000 Iraqi CHILDREN.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Spence
It's amazing how Al Gore has been turned into a traitor and a weakling by the right wing. You guys are truly hateful.


For the record Spence, I don't hate anyone. Your blanket characterization of Republicans on this site is not justified. I know for a fact that I have not called any democrat a childish name on this site (i.e. Heroin sniffing idiot) unlike some of the Democrat backers on this site.

We, as a constituency, always talk about how we want clean campaigns free of mud slinging from the candidates. Why are we surprised that it happens every year when we can't even keep ourselves from doing it here on a community of fellow Redskin fans.

Look me in the eye (figure of speech) and tell me your posts (or Big Country's for that matter, i.e. heroin sniffing idiot) about George Bush have been any less hateful than what Skinzaholic posted here.

As an administrator of this site, your posts puzzle me at times. You have stated that you have an agenda, but the way you promote it is via a classic smear campaign. You have been associated with politics for too long. All you do is tear down Repulicans on this site. You very rarely tell any of us why the Democrats you support are better alternatives than our currently elected Republican officials. That is why I get so frustrated with your posts at times, you offer nothing to convince me there is a better solution. Other than tear down Bush, all I have read from you is why Clinton's lying and "misleading comments under oath" mean little in the grand scheme of things. Clinton is gone and it is time to move past him and focus on the future. Who do you support in '04, what are his issues and why is he better?

[BigCountry]

Hell yeah my posts are hatefull towards Bush, there's a reason for that. I never told anyone not to say bad things about Gore as I'm not sure what good things there are to say about him but I know for sure there's nothing good to be said about Bush.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally posted by BigCountry
Hell yeah my posts are hatefull towards Bush, there's a reason for that. I never told anyone not to say bad things about Gore as I'm not sure what good things there are to say about him but I know for sure there's nothing good to be said about Bush.

See Spence, now will you amend your statement to say that SOME of the Left Wing AND Right wing are hateful?

[Skinzaholic]

I think if we met George Bush personally then we may find something nice to say about him.

[Skinzaholic]

Robert... have to agree with what you feel (but maybe dont feel it as strongly as you do). I try very hard to avoid attacking someone individually and instead discredit their positions. That does not seem to be a popular way to go about debating in our society. Democrats and Repoublicans both seem to spend more time yelling at each other like a elementary playground shouting match then actually discussing the issues.

[Seebs]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
I think if we met George Bush personally then we may find something nice to say about him.

Like "nice brushing"? :D

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
Robert... have to agree with what you feel (but maybe dont feel it as strongly as you do). I try very hard to avoid attacking someone individually and instead discredit their positions. That does not seem to be a popular way to go about debating in our society. Democrats and Repoublicans both seem to spend more time yelling at each other like a elementary playground shouting match then actually discussing the issues.

Attacking the "other" political party has always been part of campaigning, debate, and the struggle for power. IMO, however, the single mided hatefulness was ratcheted up, and continues to be practiced, primarily by Republicans, beginning during the Reagan and Bush I years. For example, Newt Gingrich's PAC, GOPAC, distributed guides to Republican candidates advising things like "Go negative early", "Never back off" and included lists of specific words to use as often as possible to describe opponents, including "sick, pathetic, traitors, corrupt, bizarre..." During a budget debate, Newt once criticized Dems as being "sick, pathetic, liberal, incompetent, tax-spending triators." Traitors? Because they have a different opinion on how federal funds should be spent? These are PERSONAL attacks.

I simply have never heard of Democrats being involved in systematic efforts to encourage their party to portray the opposition in such terms, nor actually say something like Newt did.
In general, if a Dem calls someone "corrupt", it is because they think they did something corrupt, like Al Damato and his HUD fiasco.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by Skinzaholic
I think if we met George Bush personally then we may find something nice to say about him.

Yeah, and everyone says Pat Buchanan is a helluva guy to sit around and have a beer with, but I don't want that SOB to have anything to do with what goes on in the US of A.

[Skins57]

for some reason, I do not see PAt Buchanan as a beer drinker :D

[Skins57]

Democrats and Repoublicans both seem to spend more time yelling at each other like a elementary playground shouting match then actually discussing the issues.

Is that about the truth. We might actually agree on something Kevin......:D :D say it ain't so:D

[dalpumpkin]

Green is god

500,000 iraq children killed? Prove it. No Just prove that complete lie. Your Green whatever, but prove that Lie. Please just bring facts that you can't and prove that Lie you stated.

While your at it, bring how many muslims that died from Saddams greed. How many people died and many countries had to go to war for his 30plus castles?

Hey lets just let this man of death go untill he whipes out more. Why because people like you and spence are right by just making stuff up to debate.

You two hate Bush, yeah so what. What it is down to lies like 500,000 iraq children where killed to satisfy your hate for Bush.

Go hate all the Demecrates that voted for this war first. Your cause is Bush sucks for this war, and your point is go vote for your guy because you and your base has a good thing? You can't even control your base and your people in a majority voted for this also. I guess we should be mad at Bush for doing his job, even if it means beleaveing in a group with no issue and doesn't even care that there base in high numbers voted for what you all complain.

Lets get real, Demecrates have know focus or issue, so they are just riding the 1960's evil right thing.

OK, whatever works for you. I look forward to you thoughtless people raiseing the goverment take on my money again.

[BigCountry]

The fact that we killed a whole bunch of Iraqies citizens is a well known fact. Spence?

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by dalpumpkin
Green is god

500,000 iraq children killed? Prove it. No Just prove that complete lie. Your Green whatever, but prove that Lie. Please just bring facts that you can't and prove that Lie you stated.

While your at it, bring how many muslims that died from Saddams greed. How many people died and many countries had to go to war for his 30plus castles?

Hey lets just let this man of death go untill he whipes out more. Why because people like you and spence are right by just making stuff up to debate.

You two hate Bush, yeah so what. What it is down to lies like 500,000 iraq children where killed to satisfy your hate for Bush.

Go hate all the Demecrates that voted for this war first. Your cause is Bush sucks for this war, and your point is go vote for your guy because you and your base has a good thing? You can't even control your base and your people in a majority voted for this also. I guess we should be mad at Bush for doing his job, even if it means beleaveing in a group with no issue and doesn't even care that there base in high numbers voted for what you all complain.

Lets get real, Demecrates have know focus or issue, so they are just riding the 1960's evil right thing.

OK, whatever works for you. I look forward to you thoughtless people raiseing the goverment take on my money again.

I'm not happy so many Dems toed the line on the war. But as I have said elsewhere, the war was sold on the promise that there was proof of the existence of WMD and an active nuclear weapons program. Neither could be found by the UN inspectors (who were roundly criticizes as idiots becuase they could not find anything) or our occupying troops/inspectors (whom I support, however am mystified why they are not criticized for not finding "what we know is there" like the UN inspectors).

I find the dishonesty or incompitance (take your pick) concerning the reason for going to war troubling.