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X-Factor13
09-11-2006, 10:28 PM
What did you think of it? That was the first game ever that Gibbs didn't call, you think he regrets it? What would you change about some of the calls?
EberKain
09-11-2006, 10:29 PM
The calls were good for my money, we would have done a whole lot more on offense if the line could keep some pressure off Brunell. I saw him running for his life way too much.
danny's stogie
09-11-2006, 10:30 PM
What did you think of it? That was the first game ever that Gibbs didn't call, you think he regrets it? What would you change about some of the calls?
I think they bailed on the run too quickly and it cost them in the end.
inevitable
09-11-2006, 10:31 PM
I loved most of the playcalling
I think we ran the WR screen a bit too much.
One thing we did learn is that Betts does not have the vision/cutting ability to be a zone runner. Several pitches he missed huge cutbakcs that Portis will make when he starts playing full time.
Betts is dfeinatley a more stick it down your throat, gut player. However, Clinton is very good at this himself. Betts does not blokc as well as a healthy clinton does either. However, with a bad sohulder, it hink we shoul keep clinton out of the backfield for a majority of passing plays.
I dont think we utilized Cooley enough. But the motion was huge. We did great with it. I think there was a lot of confusion on the Vikings defense early in the game.
We all knew this was going to be close. However, the offense performed better then I expected. they did what they had to do to put us in position to win late in the game. Hall blew it.
Special teams is our achilles heel, and we need to address it sometime or another. Because the kickoffs suck, the punting sucks, and the field goals suck. That kick would've missed from 40 yards. Maybe 35.
lakeskin
09-11-2006, 10:31 PM
I think they bailed on the run too quickly and it cost them in the end.
I think thats a good assesment.
JoeDaSchmoe
09-11-2006, 10:32 PM
Honestly, I didn't see anything that Gibbs couldn't have done, but I think that's a lot more about the execution. Brunell usually had less than two seconds to get rid of the ball.
santanadasavior
09-11-2006, 10:34 PM
I liked it, but we did forget the run. Where was Duckett in the red zone? There has to be a play designed to plow through the line and we got this guy for a reason, and that reason wasn't to have him collect splinters in his butt.
JakeIron
09-11-2006, 10:34 PM
I think he's still adjusting to his new players. We need to use our WRs more... I mean go vertical, we have 3 playmakers, someone must be singlecovered every single down. And Brunell looks really old. Saunders kept calling rollouts and Mark doesn't seem comfortable passing on the move. Run up the gut and pass quickly.
X-Factor13
09-11-2006, 10:34 PM
I think they bailed on the run too quickly and it cost them in the end.
I don't think that it would've been that way had we had CP in the backfield. I don't think betts did so hot tonight. The big thing for me is: 4th and 1 on the goalline, why not put duckett in?
Dolla Bill
09-11-2006, 10:37 PM
I liked it, but we did forget the run. Where was Duckett in the red zone? There has to be a play designed to plow through the line and we got this guy for a reason, and that reason wasn't to have him collect splinters in his butt.
For some reason, I really don't like Betts. Tonight just proved it. He's like good for only 3-4 yards on a great play by him. Where was Duckett? I don't care if Saunders thinks Betts is a great back. I don't see it. He must be in the Taylor Jacobs clinic where you're great in practice, but stink it up during the game. He has no vision whatsoever.
LATrueRedskin
09-11-2006, 10:37 PM
We have more weapons then we're using. Cooley only thrown to once? Not bringing in Duckett in the redzone after failing with both Portis and Betts? Not even looking Lloyd's way unless we're looking to throw the ball away? We didn't use our personell nearly as well as we could have.
SkinsfaninNJ
09-11-2006, 10:37 PM
I think he's still adjusting to his new players. We need to use our WRs more... I mean go vertical, we have 3 playmakers, someone must be singlecovered every single down. And Brunell looks really old. Saunders kept calling rollouts and Mark doesn't seem comfortable passing on the move. Run up the gut and pass quickly.
I agree. We had chances to go downfield and did not. I don't know if that was play calling, Brunell's apprehension or not enough time to let the play develop. I have a feeling it was one or all of them at different times.
Apache
09-11-2006, 10:38 PM
I think we should have used Gibb's play calling this year to give the team more time to learn the Al Saunder's system. We've had to switch gears too many times and once again it might cost us. Gibbs took us to round 2 of the playoffs so Saunder's will have tough shoes to fill. I believe he can but, possibly not this year however, time will tell.
lakeskin
09-11-2006, 10:38 PM
For some reason, I really don't like Betts. Tonight just proved it. He's like good for only 3-4 yards on a great play by him. Where was Duckett? I don't care if Saunders thinks Betts is a great back. I don't see it. He must be in the Taylor Jacobs clinic where you're great in practice, but stink it up during the game. He has no vision whatsoever.
I agree. We gave up a third rounder for a guy to ride the pine. Betts looked weak tonight.
ryflan47
09-11-2006, 10:38 PM
There were some areas that need improvement, but I believe the full return of Portis will solve a lot of problems.
RoanokeSkin
09-11-2006, 10:38 PM
I think Saunders playcalling is seriously limited by Mark Brunells lack of arm strength and accuracy. I still dont believe that Brunell can lead us to the promise land. Brad Johnson put him to shame tonight, he showed that he can still make all the throws, Brunell did not.
BigPlayJay
09-11-2006, 10:39 PM
I don't think that it would've been that way had we had CP in the backfield. I don't think betts did so hot tonight. The big thing for me is: 4th and 1 on the goalline, why not put duckett in?
I'm with you on everything you said. I think a healthy Portis would've changed the game a bunch. In KC they ran like crazy and the pass followed. Was Duckett active?
lakeskin
09-11-2006, 10:39 PM
We have more weapons then we're using. Cooley only thrown to once? Not bringing in Duckett in the redzone after failing with both Portis and Betts? Not even looking Lloyd's way unless we're looking to throw the ball away? We didn't use our personell nearly as well as we could have.
Maybe Cooley couldnt get open... HE's one of Brunell's favorite targets and now all of a sudden Brunnell doesnt throw to him. A little different getting open from the TE position maybe? I hope he plays next week.
LATrueRedskin
09-11-2006, 10:39 PM
I think Saunders playcalling is seriously limited by Mark Brunells lack of arm strength and accuracy. I still dont believe that Brunell can lead us to the promise land. Brad Johnson put him to shame tonight, he showed that he can still make all the throws, Brunell did not.
Brunell had great throws tonight. I saw no reason to question his arm strength or accuracy by any means. Brunell played very, very well.
Death_Venom
09-11-2006, 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by inevitable
I think we ran the WR screen a bit too much.
I agree ENTIRELY with that assessment-and I think O-Line did not perform up to expectations..............Brunnell had very little time and when pressured did make very good decisions in my opinon...............
WinnpegSkinsFan
09-11-2006, 10:40 PM
I think he's still adjusting to his new players. We need to use our WRs more... I mean go vertical, we have 3 playmakers, someone must be singlecovered every single down. And Brunell looks really old. Saunders kept calling rollouts and Mark doesn't seem comfortable passing on the move. Run up the gut and pass quickly.
I agree. Way too many dinks & dunks for my liking. With the our talent at WR and a rookie safety for Minny we should have been testing him all night long. I don't mind keeping a good rush/pass ratio but put some pressure on their D more. However - Minny's D and Olines did a good job today.
RoanokeSkin
09-11-2006, 10:40 PM
Brunell had great throws tonight. I saw no reason to question his arm strength or accuracy by any means. Brunell played very, very well.
But we took no shots downfield... no big ones anyway.
LATrueRedskin
09-11-2006, 10:41 PM
Maybe Cooley couldnt get open... HE's one of Brunell's favorite targets and now all of a sudden Brunnell doesnt throw to him. A little different getting open from the TE position maybe? I hope he plays next week.
I don't know. I didn't see many plays designed for Cooley tonight. Our OLine screwed up the screen to him, and that was it. We can surely use him better than that.
DarkLord91
09-11-2006, 10:43 PM
I wasn't really that happy with the playcalling, but Brunell was basically running for his life back there so its hard to judge.
LATrueRedskin
09-11-2006, 10:44 PM
But we took no shots downfield... no big ones anyway.
That could be for various reasons, I don't know why we have to question Brunell. Our OLine could only protect him for a short period of time, maybe the receivers didn't get open, etc. Brunell made very sharp, accurate medium-long range throws. That throw to Moss to the sidelines in the last seconds is just one example. That was a beautiful ball.
santanadasavior
09-11-2006, 10:44 PM
Expectations
Brunell:exceed
Portis:exceed
Betts:failed
Moss:as expected
EL:exceed bigtime
Lloyd:failed
Cooley:failed
Line:failed
where was duckett
HAWGZHEAD
09-11-2006, 10:44 PM
The playbook would have looked better if Brunell had more than 2 seconds to make a decision. I am not worried about the play-calling rather the players making the plays.
lakeskin
09-11-2006, 10:44 PM
I don't know. I didn't see many plays designed for Cooley tonight. Our OLine screwed up the screen to him, and that was it. We can surely use him better than that.
Especially in the red zone. I know there was a third down play down near the goal line where they just left him in to block. So in that instance I would have to agree with you.
SkinsfaninNJ
09-11-2006, 10:45 PM
Brunell had great throws tonight. I saw no reason to question his arm strength or accuracy by any means. Brunell played very, very well.
I completely disagree. We took no shots downfield except for the one we completed to Moss. There had to be some opportunities. I think Brucell was afraid to go downfield to avoid the mistake.
LATrueRedskin
09-11-2006, 10:46 PM
Especially in the red zone. I know there was a third down play down near the goal line where they just left him in to block. So in that instance I would have to agree with you.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That area is Chis Cooley area. It's as simple as that. We misused him terribley in the redzone.
danny's stogie
09-11-2006, 10:47 PM
I don't think that it would've been that way had we had CP in the backfield. I don't think betts did so hot tonight. The big thing for me is: 4th and 1 on the goalline, why not put duckett in?
Not using Duckett in those situations baffles me. He must be in the doghouse.
BigPlayJay
09-11-2006, 10:48 PM
Expectations
Brunell:exceed
Portis:exceed
Betts:failed
Moss:as expected
EL:exceed bigtime
Lloyd:failed
Cooley:failed
Line:failed
where was duckett
You're right about all of those.
I would rate the defense below expectations as a whole.
LATrueRedskin
09-11-2006, 10:51 PM
I completely disagree. We took no shots downfield except for the one we completed to Moss. There had to be some opportunities. I think Brucell was afraid to go downfield to avoid the mistake.
Sure, we didn't bomb the ball 50 yards. There's reasons for that. If Moss or whomever was open, Brunell would have threw them the ball if he had the time. He made some nice 20-25 yard passes. Two to Moss and one to Thrash.
Biggie
09-11-2006, 10:52 PM
Brunell took the one shot downfield, but didn't throw farther than 15 yards besides that.
RedskinsVision
09-11-2006, 10:55 PM
It's only going to get better and more dynamic as they get used to it. But they did look lost in the Redzone, Cooley had a bad game, the OL was just average, and our halfback screens need major work. But as soon as Portis starts carrying the load again, we'll be fine.
LATrueRedskin
09-11-2006, 10:56 PM
Brunell took the one shot downfield, but didn't throw farther than 15 yards besides that.
Brunell completed passes for 37, 19, and 23 yards.
vbskins
09-11-2006, 10:58 PM
I think Saunders playcalling is seriously limited by Mark Brunells lack of arm strength and accuracy. I still dont believe that Brunell can lead us to the promise land. Brad Johnson put him to shame tonight, he showed that he can still make all the throws, Brunell did not.
four things i saw tonight:
1.brunell has no arm, we took no shots vertical, that is why we saw no Lloyd
2.betts sucks, when he hits the hole you expect some extra yards, but he lacks spped and gors down on first tackle. I liked kenny Watson more than Betts
3 Our Oline played pretty well
4 Saunders plays are going to work. His play calling was a little suspect.
danny's stogie
09-11-2006, 11:01 PM
1.brunell has no arm, we took no shots vertical, that is why we saw no Lloyd
Brunell has no arm, except for when he completes 3 of 4 deep passes attempted. But anyways, yeah, he SUCKS!!!! :rolleyes:
HAWGZHEAD
09-11-2006, 11:03 PM
four things i saw tonight:
1.brunell has no arm, we took no shots vertical, that is why we saw no Lloyd
2.betts sucks, when he hits the hole you expect some extra yards, but he lacks spped and gors down on first tackle. I liked kenny Watson more than Betts
3 Our Oline played pretty well
4 Saunders plays are going to work. His play calling was a little suspect.I'd re-watch that game.
DarkLord91
09-11-2006, 11:04 PM
Those passes aren't deep.
danny's stogie
09-11-2006, 11:04 PM
Brunell has no arm, except for when he completes 3 of 4 deep passes attempted. But anyways, yeah, he SUCKS!!!! :rolleyes:
Oh, I forgot to say: "Bring back Ramsey!"
bergiemoore
09-11-2006, 11:05 PM
Our O-Line is suspect at this point. At least one redzone attempt was blown when Doc let his man grab Brunell before the hand-off to Portis. Brunell was scrambling an awfull lot for my taste. I would like to see them dominate the line of scrimage, and you can only do that by establishing the run early. I wish we had had Portis as the starter.
Warpath23
09-11-2006, 11:14 PM
I thought we signed Brandon Lloyd? Hmmmm, I thought the calls were decent but I would have like to have seen a little more north & south running & some shots down field to BL. Brunnell is toast again Dallas if he continues to role to the pressure like he still had wheels or something. He needs to step up in the pocket & look down field...No Duckett down close? Why? No Sellers on play action down close? Why? sigh, I sick of this....
shally
09-11-2006, 11:14 PM
You're right about all of those.
I would rate the defense below expectations as a whole.
HALL ?
not an nfl level kicker any more. he is damaged goods
danny's stogie
09-11-2006, 11:15 PM
HALL ?
not an nfl level kicker any more. he is damaged goods
Ahh...the short memory of the NFL fan...at least you have an excuse, Blue.
shally
09-11-2006, 11:16 PM
Our O-Line is suspect at this point. At least one redzone attempt was blown when Doc let his man grab Brunell before the hand-off to Portis. Brunell was scrambling an awfull lot for my taste. I would like to see them dominate the line of scrimage, and you can only do that by establishing the run early. I wish we had had Portis as the starter.
every redzone opportunity but one ended up being a fg.. even gibbs said that cannot stand...
Slobberknocker
09-11-2006, 11:26 PM
Gibbs has so many attributes that it's foolish to dwell on weaknesses. But sometimes he can get burned by loyalty: loyalty to Danny Smith, loyalty to John Hall, loyalty to Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright.
I think Duckett could have been very effective tonight, especially in the red zone but for some reason, he'll have to work his way up the pecking order. Ladell got the rock, and we went nowhere.
At MINIMUM I would sign Nik Novak to our practice squad. What good is having two receivers when your kicking game is so shaky?
Frost doesn't deserve the heat he's taking. Aside from the one 31-yarder, he pinned the Vikings deep and booted another over 50 yards. If anything, blame our coverage or blame Danny Smith's schemes -- but Hall acquited himself better than I hoped IMHO.
Duckett needs to be worked into this offense. Lloyd and Cooley both need touches.
Al Saunders will get this all dialed in. Mark my words. But Gibbs needs to let go of his comittment to certain players...
shally
09-11-2006, 11:37 PM
Gibbs has so many attributes that it's foolish to dwell on weaknesses. But sometimes he can get burned by loyalty: loyalty to Danny Smith, loyalty to John Hall, loyalty to Ladell Betts and Rock Cartwright.
I think Duckett could have been very effective tonight, especially in the red zone but for some reason, he'll have to work his way up the pecking order. Ladell got the rock, and we went nowhere.
At MINIMUM I would sign Nik Novak to our practice squad. What good is having two receivers when your kicking game is so shaky?
Frost doesn't deserve the heat he's taking. Aside from the one 31-yarder, he pinned the Vikings deep and booted another over 50 yards. If anything, blame our coverage or blame Danny Smith's schemes -- but Hall acquited himself better than I hoped IMHO.
Duckett needs to be worked into this offense. Lloyd and Cooley both need touches.
Al Saunders will get this all dialed in. Mark my words. But Gibbs needs to let go of his comittment to certain players...
frost did enough.. but he should not be kicking off and if we replace hall we can put him back where he belongs
whistleandthumb
09-11-2006, 11:57 PM
I'd say our Red Zone playcalling could be improved. 3 trips inside the 10 yard line, and 3 field goals.
However, it's nice to see Portis gaining more yards in the Red Zone. Brunell looked pretty confident passing the ball, and there were nearly a few BIG plays, like that slant pass to ARE.
Fathead
09-11-2006, 11:59 PM
The O line should be dominant in the red zone. Portis should be scoring every time we get there.
becky
09-12-2006, 12:32 AM
I think they bailed on the run too quickly and it cost them in the end.
I think if Portis had been 100% we wouldn't have and it would have made the difference. I'm assuming Duckett did not play because he needs more time in the offense? Baffled me a little, but I'm sure there was a good reason.
SpicyMcHaggis
09-12-2006, 04:05 AM
I think if Portis had been 100% we wouldn't have and it would have made the difference. I'm assuming Duckett did not play because he needs more time in the offense? Baffled me a little, but I'm sure there was a good reason.
2 things here..
1)How hard can it be to execute a 3 yard dive from the 5 yard line?
2)What's the point of having a ridiculously deep rotation at RB when if your starting RB only gets 10 carries you are force to abandon the run?
bigcmr
09-12-2006, 04:34 AM
The thing all game I could not fig. out is why we didn't stretch the field more by throwing deep a few times? Its 1st and 10 we are midfield go deep make the defence respect you.
ImRickJamesB
09-12-2006, 04:51 AM
Hello.
I thought the Skins should've thrown more deep routes to Santana. Minn had a rookie starting at FS and at CB, I figured they'd try to exploit that more. Long, short, or otherwise, you gotta get Santanas hands on the ball more than that. I wonder if that hit Sharper put on him had anything to do with it?
What about Cooley? Saunders is supposed to do wonders with a good TE like CC. That dude's a 1st down waiting to happen! 3rd and 8, throw it to Cooley, he'll catch it!
Things would've gone a bit smoother, had Portis been 100%. However, why spend the pick(s) on Duckett, if you're not gonna play him? Maybe he's hurt??
Overall, I thought the playcalling was pretty suspect.... played this one too close to the vest and got burned. I give credit to the Vikes D, they were very solid! But, there are so many weapons on that offense....... For 2 million a year, you better find a way utilize them! I'm sure they'll air it out more in Dallas!
However, I was very unimpressed with the way the Vikings called the game!
It seemed like they ran the ball on almost every 1st and 2nd down, even though the pass was very effective. All night, it took them 3 plays to get a 1st down!......Unfortunately for Wash, they kept converting those 3rd and 8's.
Minnesota's playcalling was just as bad (imo), they just executed better.
DCGreys
09-12-2006, 05:21 AM
When inside the 10, TJ TJ TJ for the TD
SpicyMcHaggis
09-12-2006, 05:37 AM
When inside the 10, TJ TJ TJ for the TD
With the Viking's defensive line, especially the tackles, I'm not so sure that's a good idea...
SpicyMcHaggis
09-12-2006, 05:39 AM
Not using Duckett in those situations baffles me. He must be in the doghouse.
Already??!!
Red Bear
09-12-2006, 08:21 AM
the play calling was weird. when we had 3rd and goal from like the 4, i was just waiting for the short pass in the flat to sellers that worked so well last year it was almost a sure thing
BigPlayJay
09-12-2006, 08:28 AM
HALL ?
not an nfl level kicker any more. he is damaged goods
You're saying this because he missed a 47 yarder with the game on the line? There are many kickers in the NFL who could miss that kick. I think the jury is still out. If we take the irrational fan approach then we will spend a whole season like Dallas did last year, shuffling kickers in and out as we loose 2-4 games because of it.
No way I would jettison hall after this game. He is still a vet who is just getting back to health. He was a really good kicker for us a few years back. Give him a break!
BigPlayJay
09-12-2006, 08:33 AM
Hello.
I thought the Skins should've thrown more deep routes to Santana. Minn had a rookie starting at FS and at CB, I figured they'd try to exploit that more. Long, short, or otherwise, you gotta get Santanas hands on the ball more than that. I wonder if that hit Sharper put on him had anything to do with it?
What about Cooley? Saunders is supposed to do wonders with a good TE like CC. That dude's a 1st down waiting to happen! 3rd and 8, throw it to Cooley, he'll catch it!
Things would've gone a bit smoother, had Portis been 100%. However, why spend the pick(s) on Duckett, if you're not gonna play him? Maybe he's hurt??
Overall, I thought the playcalling was pretty suspect.... played this one too close to the vest and got burned. I give credit to the Vikes D, they were very solid! But, there are so many weapons on that offense....... For 2 million a year, you better find a way utilize them! I'm sure they'll air it out more in Dallas!
However, I was very unimpressed with the way the Vikings called the game!
It seemed like they ran the ball on almost every 1st and 2nd down, even though the pass was very effective. All night, it took them 3 plays to get a 1st down!......Unfortunately for Wash, they kept converting those 3rd and 8's.
Minnesota's playcalling was just as bad (imo), they just executed better.
Cooley seems to be struggling with the new offense. Also I'm getting the feeling he's starting to get too much into being Mr Personality and less the footbal player.
Dolla Bill
09-12-2006, 08:41 AM
Cooley looks a little lost in the offense as Akh pointed out. I think the FO is holding off on resigning him until he proves himself at sometime during this year. Kind of a smart move. This offense is staying the way it is. Why pay someone who doesn't fit it? He will eventually get it. He's a smart guy, and a good football player, but he's still got to prove himself.
vabeach_skinsfan
09-12-2006, 08:46 AM
The play calling wasn't bad, I just think we need to execute better in the redzone. Too many points were left on the field.
I don't think we used Cooley enough, should have got him the ball in the redzone.
What ups with TJ Ducket? Not sure why we didn't try and use him, especially near the goal line.
I was satisfied overall with the playcalling though. Glad to see we didn't have any stupid penalties on offense, escpecially with all the pre-snap motion.
PennSkinsFan
09-12-2006, 09:18 AM
I thought the play calling was pretty bad. Way too conservative and these little dink screens are a great idea with our speed, but should not be the sole offense, like it was last night. We raraely looked at Lloyd. No Duckett in the red zone. We went deep only once, to Moss, and it was successful, never did it again. I hope this is not what this offense is about because if it is, it will be a long year.
Defend Saunders all you want, but his offense last nigth was boring and quite unimpressive.
hailj
09-12-2006, 09:55 AM
What did you think of it? That was the first game ever that Gibbs didn't call, you think he regrets it? What would you change about some of the calls?
how is Coach Gibbs and Saunders suppose to focus on the game when they know Cruise is trying to convert the Danny to scientology ?
chicago_skinz_fan
09-12-2006, 01:05 PM
To be honest I was really concerned about the Defense more than the offense... All game our defensive line was not getting any pressure whatsoever on Brad Johnson. You know how you beat Brad Johnson? You freaking pressure him. He is like Drew Blesoe, if you give him time he will beat you. I did not see very many unique blitzing schemes going on that Greg Williams is so accustomed to calling. Where the hell was Andre Carter all game?
The secondary got burned on some plays which was bad, however, due to the lack of pressure again, I would give them a C+. Reason being the longer Brad can sit there and read the coverage, the easier it is for a veteran to make a play. I did see some plays where there was just nothing open and he had to throw it away or dump it off...
I saw light at the end of the tunnel for the offense. There were some cool looking schemes out there. Alot of 3 wide reciever sets used. Mark seemed to like Randel El last night and got him the ball. Lloyd was nowhere to be found, wheter it was cause he was not getting open, or Brunell just does not have confidence in him.
I think Brunell played a good game. If he had more time he would have been even better. He did not take bad sacks, or did not force the ball and throw interceptions. I think a sign of a good quarterback is someone who is ok with throwing the ball away on 3rd down rather than force something and cause a turnover. Last night was so close, you can't just give the ball away and create momentium for the other team.
Another thing I noticed. This team is not built for 3rd and long. It really is not. Al Saunders system is only effective if we are in 3rd and short situations. We were successfull when the ground game could chew up some yards and set Brunell up with a 3 and 5 or 4.
Lots of sweeps last night for the ground game which will benefit Portis once he is healthy. Something our line is going to have to get used to real quick. Hopefully we will see some more running between the tackles, but I am ok with outside sweeps, Portis did it a lot in Denver, and it worked for Holmes in KC, you just have to see the cutback lanes, which Betts did not.
SpicyMcHaggis
09-12-2006, 01:32 PM
To be honest I was really concerned about the Defense more than the offense... All game our defensive line was not getting any pressure whatsoever on Brad Johnson. You know how you beat Brad Johnson? You freaking pressure him. He is like Drew Blesoe, if you give him time he will beat you. I did not see very many unique blitzing schemes going on that Greg Williams is so accustomed to calling. Where the hell was Andre Carter all game?
The secondary got burned on some plays which was bad, however, due to the lack of pressure again, I would give them a C+. Reason being the longer Brad can sit there and read the coverage, the easier it is for a veteran to make a play. I did see some plays where there was just nothing open and he had to throw it away or dump it off...
I saw light at the end of the tunnel for the offense. There were some cool looking schemes out there. Alot of 3 wide reciever sets used. Mark seemed to like Randel El last night and got him the ball. Lloyd was nowhere to be found, wheter it was cause he was not getting open, or Brunell just does not have confidence in him.
I think Brunell played a good game. If he had more time he would have been even better. He did not take bad sacks, or did not force the ball and throw interceptions. I think a sign of a good quarterback is someone who is ok with throwing the ball away on 3rd down rather than force something and cause a turnover. Last night was so close, you can't just give the ball away and create momentium for the other team.
Another thing I noticed. This team is not built for 3rd and long. It really is not. Al Saunders system is only effective if we are in 3rd and short situations. We were successfull when the ground game could chew up some yards and set Brunell up with a 3 and 5 or 4.
Lots of sweeps last night for the ground game which will benefit Portis once he is healthy. Something our line is going to have to get used to real quick. Hopefully we will see some more running between the tackles, but I am ok with outside sweeps, Portis did it a lot in Denver, and it worked for Holmes in KC, you just have to see the cutback lanes, which Betts did not.
KC was #1 on offense for the last 5 years total. I'm thinking they must ahve done pretty well on third and long as well..if not, then they did an incredible job on 1st and 2nd down.
shally
09-12-2006, 02:08 PM
I thought the play calling was pretty bad. Way too conservative and these little dink screens are a great idea with our speed, but should not be the sole offense, like it was last night. We raraely looked at Lloyd. No Duckett in the red zone. We went deep only once, to Moss, and it was successful, never did it again. I hope this is not what this offense is about because if it is, it will be a long year.
Defend Saunders all you want, but his offense last nigth was boring and quite unimpressive.
get the ball downfield... that is all i can say.. brunell still does have the arm to do it..and until proven otherwise, nobody can cover santana
bgforever
09-12-2006, 08:06 PM
get the ball downfield... that is all i can say.. brunell still does have the arm to do it..and until proven otherwise, nobody can cover santana
On our defensive line. Yes players around the league play hurt, fact of the game. We tend to forget the mechanics of body movement in a game, with more than pain ruling the movement. I believe Grif just did clear to play and just starting being able to do a decent practice just before the game, as was the same for Daniels, Salev'a and Wynn couldn't go yet, which is the speller for Carter who actually had a few dings along the way. Notice the healthiest players was all over the place - Evans and Golston?
They are likely to be better off this week than for the opener. That was JG concern going into the game and neither he or they made an excuse of their recoveries. It was still there, just not spoken about. I know that D when I see it and I can tell it will be alive and well against Dallass!
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