When does Sean Taylor start to live up to potential?

[cmdlost29]

Sean Taylor is a bone head. I love watching Taylor and his Jacked Up hits. He is an exciting player but the last two games he has played he spit on a player and was out of our playoff loss and tonight he gave up the two costly penaties that kept the game winning drive for the Vikings alive. I can't help but see Taylor as another Arrington....lots of flash....but when does he finally calm down and stop making these bone headed mistakes and live up to his potential?

[jporterweb]

Sean Taylor is a bone head. I love watching Taylor and his Jacked Up hits. He is an exciting player but the last two games he has played he spit on a player and was out of our playoff loss and tonight he gave up the two costly penaties that kept the game winning drive for the Vikings alive. I can't help but see Taylor as another Arrington....lots of flash....but when does he finally calm down and stop making these bone headed mistakes and live up to his potential?


Umm... here's the thing if the first BS penalty wasn't called, the second would've never happened. That was a ridiculous call. I mean what about when Lloyd(I think) went up for that catch that was over his head and go speared in the process? Give Taylor a little bit of a break that Roughing call or whatever it is was a load of crap. He lead with his shoulder and hit him when the ball was on his fingertips. That was one of the biggest BS calls I've seen in a long time and it cost Washington the football game really. That drive was over right there and would've given us good field position. Lets start looking at Gibbs decision to keep Frost and Hall instead of going out and getting somebody who can kick even if their max range is 45 yards. If that kick is accurate, its better than Hall. And what good is Frost if 1 out of ever 6 punts is shanked? Sure if he kicks it good it gets distance, but how many shanks does it take before you realize this guy has no business punting? Give Taylor a break besides, it's game #1 out of 16. No need to panic yet, remember Dallas and NY both lost their first games. It's early.

[RedskinsVision]

He's been playing up to his potential since day 1. The late hit call was bogus. The play wasn't over and he came in with his shoulder. The facemask was unfortunate but it happens, he didn't do it on purpose. And he played in Seattle and had 7 tackles. Don't worry about him, he's not just flash he's a gamechanger (see the Philly and TB game minus the spit) and influences a lot of what Williams does with the Defense.

[cmdlost29]

You cannot deny that without those penalties they wouldn't have been able to make the winning field goal. I have an expectation for Sean Taylor that he becomes a leader on this team. That will never happen if he's getting game changing penalties like obvious face masks moving the team into feild goal range. Taylor needs to get his emotions and hits under control because to me his stupidety tonight cost us the game. Taylor is getting used to blowing it when we need him and I'm wondering when other start to see this too. Washington doesn't get those penalties, doesn't spit on players, and leads the team by example. That's what I mean by playing to potential. He's raw, too raw for me right now.

The problem with Hall is not fixable now, we are stuck with this situation so why start threads about kicking him to the curb? It will be addressed in the off season but we are stuck with this right now. I would never ask Hall to kick a game winning kick over 40 yards. He will not make them. In the same way I wouldn't ask Brunell to throw a 100 yard pass. Neither are possible. So you play within your means instead of asking too much of your players. The miss was as much Gibbs as it was Hall

[Fathead]

the spitting was 3 games ago, and Taylor played in the seattle loss.



But yes, the penalties need to stop.

[LATrueRedskin]

You cannot deny that without those penalties they wouldn't have been able to make the winning field goal. I have an expectation for Sean Taylor that he becomes a leader on this team. That will never happen if he's getting game changing penalties like obvious face masks moving the team into feild goal range. Taylor needs to get his emotions and hits under control because to me his stupidety tonight cost us the game. Taylor is getting used to blowing it when we need him and I'm wondering when other start to see this too. Washington doesn't get those penalties, doesn't spit on players, and leads the team by example. That's what I mean by playing to potential. He's raw, too raw for me right now.

Washington has had both late hit penalties and facemask penalties. Every player has facemask penalties, that's part of the game. No player intentionally tackles by a facemask, these guys collide at high speeds and sometimes they'll get a hand in there. Sean's late hit penalty shouldn't have been a penalty. The refs call what they call, man, we just have to roll with it. We should have stopped their run at the end if we didn't want them to kick a field goal. We let them get that first down, which killed our timeouts.

[InsomniaKiller]

Facemask penalties happen. The best players in the league commit them every year. Nine times out of ten it's not something they're trying to do. The guy with the ball is shifting and ducking and doing everything he can to avoid a tackle and you're throwing your arms out there and grabbing onto whatever you can. It happens and it sucks when it happens but when Marcus or Lemar or Cornelius or Daniels is guilty of the same penalty next week, are they boneheaded?

If the first call was not so absurd, I would be disappointed in Sean's performance. But it was absurd and even though I am inclined to believe that it did essentially cost us the chance to win the game, it was not his fault. It was the definition of bogus.

We are better with Sean on the field than without him on the field. He makes our defense better. He can change games and fire up the whole team. He intimidates the opposing offense.

We drafted him because he had the potential to be a gamechanger. It's not potential anymore. He is what we had hoped.

[jporterweb]

Man, you can't just see the fact that first of all without the bogus roughness call the face mask wouldn't have happened. As well as the fact that face masks happen to everyone. Not just Taylor. He didn't purposely grab the face mask to throw the guy down. If you watched the replay you saw that as the guy twisted in his grip, his hand naturally slid to the face mask. The problem with Hall should've been fixed during the off season. this was a known problem. But back to Taylor He's a very solid player and one that is living up to his potential. so hes made mistakes in the past, He didn't really make those tonight. Get off his back and realize that the refs made a bogus call that kept that drive alive when it should've ended well within Vikings territory.

[whitskins]

Facemask penalties happen. The best players in the league commit them every year. Nine times out of ten it's not something they're trying to do. The guy with the ball is shifting and ducking and doing everything he can to avoid a tackle and you're throwing your arms out there and grabbing onto whatever you can. It happens and it sucks when it happens but when Marcus or Lemar or Cornelius or Daniels is guilty of the same penalty next week, are they boneheaded?

If the first call was not so absurd, I would be disappointed in Sean's performance. But it was absurd and even though I am inclined to believe that it did essentially cost us the chance to win the game, it was not his fault. It was the definition of bogus.

We are better with Sean on the field than without him on the field. He makes our defense better. He can change games and fire up the whole team. He intimidates the opposing offense.

We drafted him because he had the potential to be a gamechanger. It's not potential anymore. He is what we had hoped.

You're on fire tonight, dude. Well said.

[cmdlost29]

Guys I know that the face mask was not on purpose. I said "obvious" face mask penalty, not that he meant to do that. My point is that when the game is on the line our leaders cannot be this sloppy. That was a very sloppy tackle that cost us 15 yards and put the team into feild goal range. Yes I know that all players pull face masks but in his short career Taylor has had more then a few moments like tonight when a little more concentration, a little more attention to detail is what we really need. Am I on his case tonight? Yes I am. You can look at the first penalty and say its bogus, and I would agree with you however that is out of our control. We control making sure that we do not get hit with 15 yard face masks however. I want to see more leadership and less mistakes from Taylor. I'm sorry if you don't agree with this, it is just my opinion of his recent play

[jporterweb]

You are untitled to your opinion... however, in this case my opinion is that you are wrong. Sometimes in order to bring someone down you have only a few options on how to get ahold of them. Unfortunately, his hand ended up sliding into the face mask.

edit: sorry not trying to be an ass... just had a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad day...

[redskin_rich]

just had a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad day...
Hahaha, I know of someone at the game tonight that had a worse day than you. He left not one, not two, not three but four huge piles of vomit in the concourse. It was the most disgusting, yet amazing thing I saw tonight. I never thought the human stomach could hold so much, albeit not for long.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

taylor's penalties were at bad times, which is why they seemed so much worse than they really were. the first on was BS and the second was unintentional. the guy is still a great player. i love the fact that mike carey called all of the taylor calls with a certain enthusiam and emphasis. :rolleyes:

[whistleandthumb]

CMD - the last time ST wasn't on the field was against the Bucs, during the regular season... and how'd that work out for us? We got torched all over the field by Chris Effing Simms. Chris Simms!!!!

And when ST got kicked out in the playoff game, what happened? Simms nearly torched us again!!!

If you don't think the Washington Redskins are a better team with Sean Taylor on the field, you're being absurd and anything else you say has zero credibility.

[bigcmr]

That late hit penlty was BS. The face mask was un called for. But I would not say Taylor is not living up to expectations. He is very agresive player. And now it seems like he is on the Refs bad side.

[ImRickJamesB]

The first penalty for un-rough, that was sooo ticky tack! However, you still gotta be smart about it, if it's borderline, you may get called for it. Still a bad call though......

The second penalty for face-mask, he deserved that. He does have a history of questionable conduct on the field, he's just gotta play a little more in control. So does Roy for that matter, he spears too much.

Aside from that, Taylor played great tonight! A constant force on the defense, he was front and center all night! Very impressive overall! Big hit, after big hit, he was laying fools out tonight!... mostly in run defense.

[DCGreys]

The first penalty for un-rough, that was sooo ticky tack! However, you still gotta be smart about it, if it's borderline, you may get called for it. Still a bad call though......

The second penalty for face-mask, he deserved that. He does have a history of questionable conduct on the field, he's just gotta play a little more in control. So does Roy for that matter, he spears too much.

Aside from that, Taylor played great tonight! A constant force on the defense, he was front and center all night! Very impressive overall! Big hit, after big hit, he was laying fools out tonight!... mostly in run defense.




But not stopping on third downs.

[C-7]

Taylor is already the beast Arrington never was.

The first call was inexistant, but then so was the roughing the passer call against the Vikings earlier in the game.

[RedskinsATW!]

I think the league officiating crews have a case against Sean Taylor. Yes, he's young and sometimes immature but he's learning. Any other safety in the league gets a pass on that play. It's the same crew as the playoff game in Tampa. Coincidence ST get's called for BS penalties? Yeah, and Richard Steele didn't have a history of stopping fights too early.

THIS IS A VIOLENT GAME!! That receiver was not defenseless and ST could've really lowered the boom on him. He didn't lead with his helmet or really lean into the receiver that hard. ST plays a very physical, smash-mouth style... it's what we pay him to do. Hell, I'm starting to get paranoid for him now.

I'm wondering when the ref's are going to put away their rainbow colored hankies and let them play football. Mike Carey would be better served reffing Peter Queen's daughter's field hockey game while they sip latte's and discuss whether Pete's new Volvo is pink or fucia.

[redskinz#1fan]

Sean Taylor is a bone head. I love watching Taylor and his Jacked Up hits. He is an exciting player but the last two games he has played he spit on a player and was out of our playoff loss and tonight he gave up the two costly penaties that kept the game winning drive for the Vikings alive. I can't help but see Taylor as another Arrington....lots of flash....but when does he finally calm down and stop making these bone headed mistakes and live up to his potential?


Tyalor got robbed on the penalty, PERIOD! If you think anything other then that, then you probably didn't even watch the game. Because if you were looking at the game, you would have seen that he destroyed the WR (with a legal tackle) right at the point when the WR had touched the ball. Last time I checked that was the point of football! I'm sorry and this is not an attack on you personally, but I can't believe that you would write this BS! What were you looking at during the game? :banghead:

[redskinz#1fan]

Guys I know that the face mask was not on purpose. I said "obvious" face mask penalty, not that he meant to do that. My point is that when the game is on the line our leaders cannot be this sloppy. That was a very sloppy tackle that cost us 15 yards and put the team into feild goal range. Yes I know that all players pull face masks but in his short career Taylor has had more then a few moments like tonight when a little more concentration, a little more attention to detail is what we really need. Am I on his case tonight? Yes I am. You can look at the first penalty and say its bogus, and I would agree with you however that is out of our control. We control making sure that we do not get hit with 15 yard face masks however. I want to see more leadership and less mistakes from Taylor. I'm sorry if you don't agree with this, it is just my opinion of his recent play


But I guess the REF's can be?!!!!!!?

[BostonSkins]

That facemask doesn't happen if Rogers (was it him?) makes the tackle on that play like he should have.

The unnecesary roughness call was just a terrible call. Terrible.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

taylor and evans were the only ones making plays in that game anyway( and washington). taylor is str8, the 1st penalty was bs, the second should of been 5 yds, but oh well, he wasnt the reason why we lost thou.

[Dolla Bill]

taylor and evans were the only ones making plays in that game anyway( and washington). taylor is str8, the 1st penalty was bs, the second should of been 5 yds, but oh well, he wasnt the reason why we lost thou.


Exactly. This was a team loss. Not one phase of the game can be held accountable for the loss. There are plenty of mistakes made all around. Offense, defense, and special teams.

[Axegrinder]

This was a case of penalties balancing themselves out.
Taylor is an aggressive player who came out on the short end of the stick on the first "judgement call".I just hope that the officals use the same criteria to protect our receivers throughout the course of the season.

[Biggie]

This was a case of penalties balancing themselves out.
Taylor is an aggressive player who came out on the short end of the stick on the first "judgement call".I just hope that the officals use the same criteria to protect our receivers throughout the course of the season.

The Lloyd hit already proves that they don't and won't.

[akhhorus]

Gee, wondering when the Misanthropes would show up. C'mon Cmdlost. Taylor is doing a great job, I'm sorry he didn't have a 3 int, 2 TD and 27 tackle game like you were hoping.

[helimech24]

Gee, wondering when the Misanthropes would show up. C'mon Cmdlost. Taylor is doing a great job, I'm sorry he didn't have a 3 int, 2 TD and 27 tackle game like you were hoping.
:lol1: , I agree. He is doing a great job. He is our enforcer and a hell of an athlete.

[Dolla Bill]

Gee, wondering when the Misanthropes would show up. C'mon Cmdlost. Taylor is doing a great job, I'm sorry he didn't have a 3 int, 2 TD and 27 tackle game like you were hoping.


But he does it in Madden, then he should do it in real life

[silverspring]

I am usually the first to hassle taylor about his jackass moves, but i don't feel last night was that bad. As everyone says the first call was pretty suspect. He probably only got the call because he is sean taylor and has drawn attention to himself in that way. The facemask at that time in the game was bad, but more incidental then anything. I think we are keying on it more because of the earlier call. He can't make mistakes like that at critical points in the game but as others say face masks do happen. It is the unnecessary roughness type calls that really bothers me and i don't think that call was warranted.

[whistleandthumb]

Here's what it all boils down to:



Sean Taylor is a punk. ;)

[Death_Venom]

Taylor got robbed on the penalty, PERIOD! If you think anything other then that, then you probably didn't even watch the game. Because if you were looking at the game, you would have seen that he destroyed the WR (with a legal tackle) right at the point when the WR had touched the ball. Last time I checked that was the point of football! I'm sorry and this is not an attack on you personally, but I can't believe that you would write this BS! What were you looking at during the game? :banghead:

I have to agree the Ref's made some BAD calls that probaly cost this game and it is ABOUT TIME the NFL does something about the inconsistent enforcement of the rules by the REFS...........:devil2:

[skinfanjon]

Gee, wondering when the Misanthropes would show up. C'mon Cmdlost. Taylor is doing a great job, I'm sorry he didn't have a 3 int, 2 TD and 27 tackle game like you were hoping.

Yep. Seems to me Taylor has been living up to his potential since his first preseason game as a professional. Drop a couple Xanex and chill.

[Death_Venom]

The second penalty for face-mask, he deserved that. He does have a history of questionable conduct on the field, he's just gotta play a little more in control. So does Roy for that matter, he spears too much.

From what I could see on the replay showed it did not seem that Taylor had grabbed the mask yet had grabbed around the visor area NEAR THE FACEMASK. Regardless a REF seeing this in full speed would likely call it a FACEMASK PENALTY-which of course I COMPLETELY disagree with................Besides Taylor is the EXECUTIONER on DEFENSE right now.....Laying BIG HIT AFTER BIG HIT!!!!!!!

[chicago_skinz_fan]

Sean has a bad rep, he did it to himself and if the call is close refs are going to go against him, it is just something he is going to have to live with for a while until he can prove he cleaned up his act. That being said, I think Sean Taylor had one hell of a game. He was all over the damn field flying at people. He made some great tackles and rarely did I see him miss one.

On a game where our corners were getting burned and our Dlinemen were getting eaten alive by Minn's O-Line, Sean Taylor was a freaking human wrecking ball.

[flave1969]

As everyone has said on this thread.

The first call was plain BS, we all know it, quit blaming him for it.

Secondly, Rogers should have made the tackle in the first place before the second call. The five yard facemask on Archuleta was far more blatant than the one Taylor received a 15 yard penalty.

All any football player wants is consistency. Lloyd getting speared on an uncatchable ball belies the new rules to protect players.

Taylor made some big hits and stopped some big men last night. I feel he had a fine game.

You should save your ire for Carlos Rogers. His was the performance that cost us much in this game. A tentative performance that saw him get beat often.

[ryflan47]

I feel like he is living up to his potential.

[Syllable]

Replace Taylor with Tom Cruise, isnt that why we signed Cruise?

[lakeskin]

As everyone has said on this thread.

The first call was plain BS, we all know it, quit blaming him for it.

Secondly, Rogers should have made the tackle in the first place before the second call. The five yard facemask on Archuleta was far more blatant than the one Taylor received a 15 yard penalty.

All any football player wants is consistency. Lloyd getting speared on an uncatchable ball belies the new rules to protect players.

Taylor made some big hits and stopped some big men last night. I feel he had a fine game.

You should save your ire for Carlos Rogers. His was the performance that cost us much in this game. A tentative performance that saw him get beat often.

Excellent analysis flave.

[EberKain]

The unsportsman call when taylor hit the guy as he went out of bounds should have never been called because the ball was still in bounds, in the air, and had already been touched after the pass. It was a completely legal hit and would not have been called if someone else would have done it.

[Axegrinder]

As everyone has said on this thread.

The first call was plain BS, we all know it, quit blaming him for it.

Secondly, Rogers should have made the tackle in the first place before the second call. The five yard facemask on Archuleta was far more blatant than the one Taylor received a 15 yard penalty.

All any football player wants is consistency. Lloyd getting speared on an uncatchable ball belies the new rules to protect players.

Taylor made some big hits and stopped some big men last night. I feel he had a fine game.

You should save your ire for Carlos Rogers. His was the performance that cost us much in this game. A tentative performance that saw him get beat often.Thanks Andrew.Your take on the missed tackle was exactly what I was thinking at the time.

[Syllable]

Yes, unlucky that we are throwing rogers into the fire now, sorta like throwing pacman jones in. W/o the 5 tds per game though.

[LATrueRedskin]

As everyone has said on this thread.

The first call was plain BS, we all know it, quit blaming him for it.

Secondly, Rogers should have made the tackle in the first place before the second call. The five yard facemask on Archuleta was far more blatant than the one Taylor received a 15 yard penalty.

All any football player wants is consistency. Lloyd getting speared on an uncatchable ball belies the new rules to protect players.

Taylor made some big hits and stopped some big men last night. I feel he had a fine game.

You should save your ire for Carlos Rogers. His was the performance that cost us much in this game. A tentative performance that saw him get beat often.

Yeah, I was disappointed in Carlos. He looked pretty bad out there, and then celebrated when Troy Williamson dropped the easy pass, beating Rogers in the process. We need Shawn Springs, especially after seeing Pierson get hurt.

[Syllable]

Yeah, I was disappointed in Carlos. He looked pretty bad out there, and then celebrated when Troy Williamson dropped the easy pass, beating Rogers in the process. We need Shawn Springs, especially after seeing Pierson get hurt.
I wouldnt be Dissapointed. This is like his second game as a True Number 1 corner, and with speed like Troy Williamson you have to have quick awareness or he will beat you.

[Keino]

He's been playing up to his potential since day 1. The late hit call was bogus. The play wasn't over and he came in with his shoulder. The facemask was unfortunate but it happens, he didn't do it on purpose. And he played in Seattle and had 7 tackles. Don't worry about him, he's not just flash he's a gamechanger (see the Philly and TB game minus the spit) and influences a lot of what Williams does with the Defense.


And I will add that teams purposefully throw away from him. Thanks for saving me some typing.

[Syllable]

Does anyone have the name of the head Ref last game? I think hes scarred of ST too.

[Keino]

Does anyone have the name of the head Ref last game? I think hes scarred of ST too.


Same ref who threw him out of the Tampa game, but it was the Backjudge that was blowing calls all night and the Taylor penalty was the most absurd.

Taylor is a marked man this year I fear.

[Syllable]

Same ref who threw him out of the Tampa game, but it was the Backjudge that was blowing calls all night and the Taylor penalty was the most absurd.

Taylor is a marked man this year I fear.

True that, but I guess the man who speared Lloyd must be a saint to get away with hitting him with an uncatchable ball?

[santanadasavior]

Sean Taylor is a bone head. I love watching Taylor and his Jacked Up hits. He is an exciting player but the last two games he has played he spit on a player and was out of our playoff loss and tonight he gave up the two costly penaties that kept the game winning drive for the Vikings alive. I can't help but see Taylor as another Arrington....lots of flash....but when does he finally calm down and stop making these bone headed mistakes and live up to his potential?

He has reached his potential and is going to go past that in the years to come. Case in point, right now he is keeping the pulse of this team up. His fire and his hits and his willpower are keeping this team afloat. To me that qualifies as reaching potential.

[shally]

He has reached his potential and is going to go past that in the years to come. Case in point, right now he is keeping the pulse of this team up. His fire and his hits and his willpower are keeping this team afloat. To me that qualifies as reaching potential.

once he gets a fellow safety who can take some of the coverage load from him he will be in a class of 1...

[helimech24]

once he gets a fellow safety who can take some of the coverage load from him he will be in a class of 1...Totally agree. Remember all, he is only in his 3rd year, so he is still fairly young and a star already. Did you see TO drop a ball because he saw ST coming. He frightens the WRs on opposing teams, and he covers pretty good. The problem is that we had a descent safety next to him in Ryan Clark and went will a harder hitting, worse cover guy in AA. That is taking its toll on ST. Besides the fact that our replacement CBs aren't doing that well, so our secondary will be a lot better once Springs comes back.

[santanadasavior]

Totally agree. Remember all, he is only in his 3rd year, so he is still fairly young and a star already. Did you see TO drop a ball because he saw ST coming. He frightens the WRs on opposing teams, and he covers pretty good. The problem is that we had a descent safety next to him in Ryan Clark and went will a harder hitting, worse cover guy in AA. That is taking its toll on ST. Besides the fact that our replacement CBs aren't doing that well, so our secondary will be a lot better once Springs comes back.

I would say that Arch will get better in time. I also think that he is better at coverage than we give him credit for. He's solid and Taylor has consistently been the anchor of our secondary.

[hail2skins]

One thing I've seen from Taylor so far is his improvement in play recognition. I believe he's doing well right now.

[santanadasavior]

One thing I've seen from Taylor so far is his improvement in play recognition. I believe he's doing well right now.

One thing I can say about that is the one short pass TO caught over the middle but got nailed by Taylor. Before the play he saw what was going to happen and came up to the line of scrimmage and then he read the play and made a play. He is getting some brains to go with the brawn.

[redwolf1218]

i haven't read the whole thread, but i'm surprised at the question. he seems to be living up to his potential already, to me anyways. he was all over the place, hitting everyone.

[HollywoodKolt]

I'll tell you one thing he played some football on sunday night. If not for the pick on the 1 yardline, I think we would have looked at him as this years Santana Moss.

I think this is the year that the whole league starts to notice how good he really is.

[chicago_skinz_fan]

Taylor seems like the only one playing defense out there. Yeah yeah I love Marcus, and I know he has made plays, but seriously, Sean is all over the freaking field making tackles on running backs because they are getting passed the linebackers.

[santanadasavior]

Taylor seems like the only one playing defense out there. Yeah yeah I love Marcus, and I know he has made plays, but seriously, Sean is all over the freaking field making tackles on running backs because they are getting passed the linebackers.

True that, he is making plays that no one else can. He is the glue holding us together right now.

[Redskinfan28]

Sean Taylor is a bone head. I love watching Taylor and his Jacked Up hits. He is an exciting player but the last two games he has played he spit on a player and was out of our playoff loss and tonight he gave up the two costly penaties that kept the game winning drive for the Vikings alive. I can't help but see Taylor as another Arrington....lots of flash....but when does he finally calm down and stop making these bone headed mistakes and live up to his potential?

ST is the only player actually playing worth a d*** on D right now. I don't think even Marcus is playing well.

[akhhorus]

ST is the only player actually playing worth a d*** on D right now. I don't think even Marcus is playing well.

Oh....my...god...lol :Peace:

[redwolf1218]

Taylor is the best at his position, by far. i would not trade him for anyone.

[shally]

I would say that Arch will get better in time. I also think that he is better at coverage than we give him credit for. He's solid and Taylor has consistently been the anchor of our secondary.

maybe.. what worries me some is that he has never been known for his coverage ability either in college or as a pro..

[HailVictory]

I would say that Arch will get better in time. I also think that he is better at coverage than we give him credit for. He's solid and Taylor has consistently been the anchor of our secondary.
Huh? I think AA is only going down hill with his age and concussed history. I don't see anything redeeming about his coverage skills. I think we have seen who the leader of the secondary is by his absence (SS). Taylor is a beast, he has great make up speed, and he has a motor that can drive the team when he is focused; that said he can get alot better which is bad news for the rest of the league.

[MWballer]

ST is doing fine the first game he made a mistake the other call was incorrect and against dallas he was a monster...Comming up with a key strip, putting fear into the Dallas WR hearts and making tackles everywhere. AA is a liability to say the least...he doesnt get the D yet and I don't understand why GW doesn't blitz him more and put Marcus Washington on the TE instead of AA cause I think MW is better in coverage.

[Syllable]

ST is doing fine the first game he made a mistake the other call was incorrect and against dallas he was a monster...Comming up with a key strip, putting fear into the Dallas WR hearts and making tackles everywhere. AA is a liability to say the least...he doesnt get the D yet and I don't understand why GW doesn't blitz him more and put Marcus Washington on the TE instead of AA cause I think MW is better in coverage.
Marcus also is a good blitzer, and Marcus also had a key holding penalty on a TE in the Minni Game.

[CowboyKilla]

Get some glasses buddy, he's been our best Defensive Player BY FAR!!
Jeez.

[CowboyKilla]

Sean, that is....... I didn't realize the convo had moved to arch.

[santanadasavior]

Huh? I think AA is only going down hill with his age and concussed history. I don't see anything redeeming about his coverage skills. I think we have seen who the leader of the secondary is by his absence (SS). Taylor is a beast, he has great make up speed, and he has a motor that can drive the team when he is focused; that said he can get alot better which is bad news for the rest of the league.

By no means is he a great cover guy. But he can cover TEs and RBs fairly well. He will get beat every once in a while but everybody does. He cannot cover WRs but that is a lot to ask for from a safety. Just because we have one of the best athletes in the game at the same position that can do anything doesn't mean that everyone that plays that position can.