The "everybody chill out" thread

[X-Factor13]

Look. I'm mad, and so are you. We all saw what happened tonight and it was by no means pretty, but look at it this way:


EVERYONE in the division has a loss. We're only ONE game back from being FIRST in the division. Yes, we look undisciplined, yes our O has been dissappointing, but didn't we find a way to solve those problems last year? All that's happening right now is we're hitting the wall a little earlier than expected, so RELAX. I'm sure that somehow between Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, and Al Saunders we'll find our way out of this situation.


We have 14 more opportunites to catch up to everyone in our division. Relax!

[ryflan47]

It's gonna take a couple days to chill out, but I understand what you're saying.

[Fathead]

Thank you!

[X-Factor13]

It's gonna take a couple days to chill out, but I understand what you're saying.


Trust me i know what you mean, but all these "off with his head" threads are killing me because i know that we're going to beat this in the end

[wewantdallas]

It's gonna take a couple days to chill out, but I understand what you're saying.

It's the WAY we're losing and the way our first team offense has done NOTHING now for six straight games. That's what truly troubles me and continues to hamper my chill out efforts.

But yeah, it's not over yet, but there have to be some huge changes.

[Itoolu]

Thank you I really needed that.

[BostonSkins]

Agreed.

I said that tonight wasn't a "must win" but now next week is.

Of course, I NEVER thought we'd look this bad.

[CarMike]

Look. I'm mad, and so are you. We all saw what happened tonight and it was by no means pretty, but look at it this way:


EVERYONE in the division has a loss. We're only ONE game back from being FIRST in the division. Yes, we look undisciplined, yes our O has been dissappointing, but didn't we find a way to solve those problems last year? All that's happening right now is we're hitting the wall a little earlier than expected, so RELAX. I'm sure that somehow between Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, and Al Saunders we'll find our way out of this situation.


We have 14 more opportunites to catch up to everyone in our division. Relax!
As I said earlier in another thread. There's a certain type of fan that only comes to MBs after a loss. You never see them after a win. I even wonder sometimes if they're really Redskin fans. They come here, start a thread, and sit back and laugh at us.

Only true Redskin fans know that the season is still young. We've played two tough teams in two weeks. Now, if we come out and lay an egg next week, well....

[bball7980]

I am sorry but when you have the same problem with the defense for 5-10 years it is hard to chill out. No pass rush. We have had that problem for a long time. We make bad QB's look good year after year after year after year........ and you want me to chill out. We suck dude and we are going to suck all year long. It makes it hard to watch the games because we look like the worst team in football. What was fun about watching this game? At least give us something to cheer about. :banghead:

[ryflan47]

Trust me i know what you mean, but all these "off with his head" threads are killing me because i know that we're going to beat this in the end

I know, it bothers me too but I can understand how they feel. This one is going to sting a bit.

[BandWagon]

It's the WAY we're losing and the way our first team offense has done NOTHING now for six straight games. That's what truly troubles me and continues to hamper my chill out efforts.

But yeah, it's not over yet, but there have to be some huge changes.
Yeah I'm with you. All this talent and ZERO productivity.

[Jon Jansen is money]

I think I can stay off the bridge for one more week.

[ryflan47]

As I said earlier in another thread. There's a certain type of fan that only comes to MBs after a loss. You never see them after a win. I even wonder sometimes if they're really Redskin fans. They come here, start a thread, and sit back and laugh at us.

Only true Redskin fans know that the season is still young. We've played two tough teams in two weeks. Now, if we come out and lay an egg next week, well....
Yeah, we cannot lay an egg against the Texans. That has to be one of those comeback games.

[akhhorus]

You're a good man X.

[LATrueRedskin]

There is grave concern with me for this team right now. That was a pitiful, heartless, confused showing in basically every aspect of the game of football.

We had no scheme on offense, and even if we did, our offensive line couldn't block anybody in order to make it happen. They didn't push anybody off the line the few times that we did run, and either committed false starts or couldn't handle the outside rush. Samuels and Jansen played awful, awful football.

I also think Saunders needs to call plays accordingly to what's happening on the field. I noticed a couple of times where Dallas blitzed heavily, yet all the receivers are running deep routes. Where's the slants? Where's the curls? Most importantly, where's the running plays? I know Clinton is out, but T.J. showed he can run the ball effectively, yet we run him only 3 plays.

[X-Factor13]

I am sorry but when you have the same problem with the defense for 5-10 years it is hard to chill out. No pass rush. We have had that problem for a long time. We make bad QB's look good year after year after year after year........ and you want me to chill out. We suck dude and we are going to suck all year long. It makes it hard to watch the games because we look like the worst team in football. What was fun about watching this game? At least give us something to cheer about. :banghead:



Something to cheer about? ok. The cheifs had the best offense in the nfl with saunders. With worse receivers, and a worse running back, and only a little bit better o-line. His first year there they were in the top half of the league in offense, with this exact same playbook. Also, if nothing else, cheer for derrick frost, who had a fantastic game

[vbskins]

Trust me i know what you mean, but all these "off with his head" threads are killing me because i know that we're going to beat this in the end

i agreee but watching Brunell win or loss will always suck. He sucks and its hard to watch when he plays, PLease find a QB with an arm. I dontreally care if he throws INTs as long as he throws the ball past the line of scrimmage. Its sucks when you are praying for a wideout screen because that is the only time we have an exciting play

Brunell sucks plain andsimple

[becky]

Thank you for this thread..

Okay, collective deep breath..

I know we all HATE the Cowboys, but having a meltdown here would be ridiculous. Its fine to be concerned but it is still only WEEK TWO.

[whistleandthumb]

It's the WAY we're losing and the way our first team offense has done NOTHING now for six straight games. That's what truly troubles me and continues to hamper my chill out efforts.

But yeah, it's not over yet, but there have to be some huge changes.
Tom nailed it.

Last year, when were 5-6 and seemed to be out of it, it was easy to keep your chin up because we were SOOOO close. You could see that we just needed to get a break here or there and we'd be off and running. We did get those breaks, and that's why we won 6 straight games.

These past 2 games, we haven't looked even KIND OF good. Especially tonight. We've regressed. It's a little ridiculous to say right now that we're only one game back so we should still be positive about where we are when we've YET to look like a reasonable football team in 2006.

[frankez99]

I'm disappointed. Horrible performance against our biggest rival on national TV.

But I'm still a Redskins fan.

Not gonna turm my back on them.

I wish we would move on from Brunell..but if he is still out there, he has my 100% support....but at some point the coaches have to see what most of us are seeing. He's had a good career, but is hanging on too long now. I feel sorry for him out there....he just looks so lost and nervous. I guess the coaches see something in Campbell that they don't like....at this rate he is going to have a Todd Collins type of career.

What happened today better not happen vs. the Texans.

Hail to the Redskins and good night.

[RedskinsVision]

OK I've laughed off this loss a while back and have maintained my sanity. Gibbs love character and the only way to build that is with adversity and none greater than an 0-2 start to build the integrity of this team that's going to come from the players.

[X-Factor13]

There is grave concern with me for this team right now. That was a pitiful, heartless, confused showing in basically every aspect of the game of football.

We had no scheme on offense, and even if we did, our offensive line couldn't block anybody in order to make it happen. They didn't push anybody off the line the few times that we did run, and either committed false starts or couldn't handle the outside rush. Samuels and Jansen played awful, awful football.

I also think Saunders needs to call plays accordingly to what's happening on the field. I noticed a couple of times where Dallas blitzed heavily, yet all the receivers are running deep routes. Where's the slants? Where's the curls? Most importantly, where's the running plays? I know Clinton is out, but T.J. showed he can run the ball effectively, yet we run him only 3 plays.


you make some great points there, and i agree with them all. The only point i want to make is that saunders is going to get a better feel for how things go as the year goes on. We're not going to be a bad football team all year, i can garauntee that. The thing is, with the cheifs, they also had these big streaks of wins, and that's when you knew the offense was playing great. They also lost some games they never should have though, but that comes with the territory. At some point everyone on this team is going to have an epiphone with this offense and we're going to make a killing on it. trust me.

[frankez99]

OK I've laughed off this loss a while back and have maintained my sanity. Gibbs love character and the only way to build that is with adversity and none greater than an 0-2 start to build the integrity of this team that's going to come from the players.

I've always dug your attitude RedskinsVision.:)

[X-Factor13]

Tom nailed it.

Last year, when were 5-6 and seemed to be out of it, it was easy to keep your chin up because we were SOOOO close. You could see that we just needed to get a break here or there and we'd be off and running. We did get those breaks, and that's why we won 6 straight games.

These past 2 games, we haven't looked even KIND OF good. Especially tonight. We've regressed. It's a little ridiculous to say right now that we're only one game back so we should still be positive about where we are when we've YET to look like a reasonable football team in 2006.


We've kept in games though, and that's what good football teams do. We played two good teams for the first two games, and our mistakes showed. But we're gonna fight through this because it is the mentality of a Gibbs coached team. We're not going to quit all of a sudden because we're 0-2, we're going to scout our next opponent and look to beat them, and after that beat the next guy, and so on.

[whistleandthumb]

We've kept in games though, and that's what good football teams do. We played two good teams for the first two games, and our mistakes showed. But we're gonna fight through this because it is the mentality of a Gibbs coached team. We're not going to quit all of a sudden because we're 0-2, we're going to scout our next opponent and look to beat them, and after that beat the next guy, and so on.
Just like the Packers and Raiders are going to do.


That doesn't necessarily mean things are looking up.

[bigcmr]

yeah I think everyone hear is on edge. And so am I. But look at it this way. Our top RB was out. and out top CB was out. So its not like we got beat down at full strength.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Look. I'm mad, and so are you. We all saw what happened tonight and it was by no means pretty, but look at it this way:


EVERYONE in the division has a loss. We're only ONE game back from being FIRST in the division. Yes, we look undisciplined, yes our O has been dissappointing, but didn't we find a way to solve those problems last year? All that's happening right now is we're hitting the wall a little earlier than expected, so RELAX. I'm sure that somehow between Joe Gibbs, Gregg Williams, and Al Saunders we'll find our way out of this situation.


We have 14 more opportunites to catch up to everyone in our division. Relax!
you are making a good effort and i applaud you, but good luck trying to stop some of these guys from gassing up their cars tp hit coaches and players. lol

[redskinz#1fan]

Ok I'm not the biggest Brunell supporter, but as long as he's our QB I will give him my 100 % support. If your jumping ship now, then you were never suppose to be on the boat in the first place! Just make sure when you jump, that you jump really far so you don't clog up the propellers when we get the engines running!

[bgforever]

Ok I'm not the biggest Brunell supporter, but as long as he's our QB I will give him my 100 % support. If your jumping ship now, then you were never suppose to be on the boat in the first place! Just make sure when you jump, that you jump really far so you don't clog up the propellers when we get the engines running!

Point well taken, but one thing to you. How can you expect EVERYBODY to ALWAYS support a player when they may see something else they like.
So by the same token, NOT WANTING A PLAYER Doesn't constitute JUMPING SHIP with the team!
Never has, never will! I didnt say what you did, when we got Duckett, liked it and others didn't. (Also when players express their dislike of a coaches' decision and still stick with the team, is that JUMPING SHIP?).
See you ADDED an individual sentiment to APPLY to the WHOLE Team, we didn't.

If its the ONE factor you are meaning (team sticking together, its the same as fans sticking together, but we are here for our opinions, not to play the game. If we can't give one, whether you like it or not, then I am done here!)

[InsomniaKiller]

What a season we had last year. I've said it before and I will say it again, it was the most FUN I've ever had watching a football team.

Remember when Clinton grabbed onto Mike's jersey, eventually making a slingshot out of it and launching himself into the endzone?

Remember being counted out against Dallas in week 2 only to have a truly memorable comeback that will go down in Washington Redskins history? I'm still to this day trying to explain to my newly converted football fan friends that it was just that...history being made right in front of our eyes.

My favorite part about that game was how it turned into a microcosm for the entire year. Wasn't it amazing to watch?

A lot of people kept the faith when we were 5-6. I did. I know a lot of you did. A lot of fans didn't, though. I don't necessarily blame them. It was "realistic thinking." Or it seemed that way, at least.

I love this team. I'm not mad at them tonight. I feel bad because I know what they're feeling. I know they're fighting. I believe that there are players on the team who understand what tonight meant to us. I feel bad for some fans because even though we all had a good time watching our run at the end of last season, I KNOW that we had the most fun. By "we" I mean the hopeless optimists. The one who said, "If we win 5 games in a row, we'll be in the playoffs. So that's what will happen."

I appreciate the hell out of Mark Brunell. I do. We all should, in my opinion. I know we all won't, and that's fine.

The point is that I love this team. I may not be saying the right things or really getting my point across very well, because I am, most likely like many of you right now, drinking off this game at the moment.

I just know how angry a lot of us are right now and I know how easy it is to BE angry but I just can't. I can't be mad at Mark after he was a part of something that made me so happy last year.

Ladell Betts is not Clinton Portis and I'm not mad at him for that. Chris Cooley didn't score 3 td's this time but I'm not mad at him for that. I could go on and on about this and I probably already have but the bottom line is this:

I believe that this team can do good things. If they don't, they don't but I believe they can.

I know a lot of people hate this kind of thread and a lot of people are too angry and upset tonight and this is the last thing they want to hear but I love this team and 0-2 doesn't change that one bit.

Just remember how happy you were last year when Sean Taylor dove into the endzone in Philadelphia. That's what this team is for...bringing us moments like that. 0-2 doesn't matter anymore. Let them have tonight. Let's just be thankful that we get to watch our team again. Let's get excited about seeing Portis back on the field. Let's all curse at the tv together next time Sean Taylor gets a personal foul called for no logical reason. That's the stuff that matters.

14-2 or bust!!


Or at least the division title...

[whistleandthumb]

Man, I applaud some of you guys that can find something positive in that game. Obviously, I, like most of us here, will always support our team, but there really isn't much to look at tonight and feel good about. We have to be realistic about that fact that this team looked like it was going backwards tonight.

That being said, let's vent tonight and get it out of our systems. We have to turn our focus to the Texans tomorrow, and finding a way to get this season turned around quickly.

[BurgundyNGold]

I'm sure there were positives. Special teams played well, so that was good. But aside from that I really am having a hard time seeing the positives or even wanting to think about them right now. Sometimes, it's healthy to take a hard, honest look at yourself or, in this case, your team. I don't want to gloss over some of these things.

[SkinEDip2]

Yea guys chill out. I came on here as mr.negative as soon as the game was over but now that its been some time Im chill now and ready to think straight.

[BurgundyNGold]

BTW, I don't think we'll see smoak until Wednesday after this one.

[bgforever]

I'm sure there were positives. Special teams played well, so that was good. But aside from that I really am having a hard time seeing the positives or even wanting to think about them right now. Sometimes, it's healthy to take a hard, honest look at yourself or, in this case, your team. I don't want to gloss over some of these things.

Ah there you are, thanks. You were missed in my rants :lol1:

that way you can say it better and I can just say yep. Cause you say it better with the perspective. Hey, definitely feel better knowing you DON"T want to get used to losing again. I know I will be ok bome late morning.

[whitskins]

BTW, I don't think we'll see smoak until Wednesday after this one.

Why is the climax to Thelma and Louise running through my head every time I think of Smoak right now?

[akhhorus]

Why is the climax to Thelma and Louise running through my head every time I think of Smoak right now?

"Let's just keep going fent....never stop!"

[BurgundyNGold]

Why is the climax to Thelma and Louise running through my head every time I think of Smoak right now?
That's it! I was thinking Martin Riggs in Lethal Weapon, lol.

[lakeskin]

That's it! I was thinking Martin Riggs in Lethal Weapon, lol.

Whenever I think of smoakI think of Calamity Jane from Deadwood...which by the way is an excellent show.

[BurgundyNGold]

Whenever I think of smoakI think of Calamity Jane from Deadwood...which by the way is an excellent show.
Actually, when you think of smoak, you should probably think more of Job Bluth from Arrested Development, lol.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2593/arrestedha6.gif

[skinzophrenic]

I agree that it is a long season, and I will continue to hold out hope that we can turn this thing around. But I will say this. The only good about our efforts on offense over the last two games is that we didn't look as pathetic as the Raiders. And if you happened to see them play that ain't sayin much!

[lakeskin]

Actually, when you think of smoak, you should probably think more of Job Bluth from Arrested Development, lol.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2593/arrestedha6.gif

:lol1: Another great show.

[Texas Skin]

Chill out everyone..........I'm going to H-Town to help them win their 1st!!

The battle of the 0-2's............see ya at Reliant!

[Redskinmayhem]

It's gonna take a couple days to chill out, but I understand what you're saying.


I'm sure we all feel this way......but damn....this one stings....even if we spank Hou on sunday it's gonna sting. This one is going to linger until Snyder buys a nuke from Syria and blows up Dallass' stadium. Or at least until we spank the cowpukes in our house.

[skinfan43]

What a season we had last year. I've said it before and I will say it again, it was the most FUN I've ever had watching a football team.

Remember when Clinton grabbed onto Mike's jersey, eventually making a slingshot out of it and launching himself into the endzone?

Remember being counted out against Dallas in week 2 only to have a truly memorable comeback that will go down in Washington Redskins history? I'm still to this day trying to explain to my newly converted football fan friends that it was just that...history being made right in front of our eyes.

My favorite part about that game was how it turned into a microcosm for the entire year. Wasn't it amazing to watch?

A lot of people kept the faith when we were 5-6. I did. I know a lot of you did. A lot of fans didn't, though. I don't necessarily blame them. It was "realistic thinking." Or it seemed that way, at least.

I love this team. I'm not mad at them tonight. I feel bad because I know what they're feeling. I know they're fighting. I believe that there are players on the team who understand what tonight meant to us. I feel bad for some fans because even though we all had a good time watching our run at the end of last season, I KNOW that we had the most fun. By "we" I mean the hopeless optimists. The one who said, "If we win 5 games in a row, we'll be in the playoffs. So that's what will happen."

I appreciate the hell out of Mark Brunell. I do. We all should, in my opinion. I know we all won't, and that's fine.

The point is that I love this team. I may not be saying the right things or really getting my point across very well, because I am, most likely like many of you right now, drinking off this game at the moment.

I just know how angry a lot of us are right now and I know how easy it is to BE angry but I just can't. I can't be mad at Mark after he was a part of something that made me so happy last year.

Ladell Betts is not Clinton Portis and I'm not mad at him for that. Chris Cooley didn't score 3 td's this time but I'm not mad at him for that. I could go on and on about this and I probably already have but the bottom line is this:

I believe that this team can do good things. If they don't, they don't but I believe they can.

I know a lot of people hate this kind of thread and a lot of people are too angry and upset tonight and this is the last thing they want to hear but I love this team and 0-2 doesn't change that one bit.

Just remember how happy you were last year when Sean Taylor dove into the endzone in Philadelphia. That's what this team is for...bringing us moments like that. 0-2 doesn't matter anymore. Let them have tonight. Let's just be thankful that we get to watch our team again. Let's get excited about seeing Portis back on the field. Let's all curse at the tv together next time Sean Taylor gets a personal foul called for no logical reason. That's the stuff that matters.

14-2 or bust!!


Or at least the division title...
Couldn't have put it better, IK:goodpost:

And check this out...if we can somehow come out of Houston with any kind of a win, the HR TAILGATE game vs. the Jags will be HUGE!
Now THAT'S something to look forward to...

[Apache]

I agree with wewantdallas. It's the way we're losing and not having changed anything to fix it. Where the heck are the passes to Moss, Randal El, Lloyd, Cooley, & Thrash. (did I miss anyone) These should all be playmakers. How about using Duckett as your premier back behind Portis. You paid good money for these people and they are not being thrown to.

It's really hard to calm down. I know we have some key players out but, you still have all these playmakers. What's preventing us from passing to them?

[Skins-R-Us]

I think we are still trying to hide our offensive and defensive play books.

We are purposely game planning without using our playbooks at all (more like street football), so that we don't give teams any film of what we actually can do. It is genious really when you think about it. After we lose 6 games or so, we will pull out the real game plan(s), which we would have been practicing and perfecting for 8 weeks (with our secret weapon JC) and we will win out to the Superbowl.

All of you negative guys and gals are falling for the sting. Didn't you get the memo about the TPS Cover Sheets?

:lol1:

[skinfan43]

I think we are still trying to hide our offensive and defensive play books.

We are purposely game planning without using our playbooks at all (more like street football), so that we don't give teams any film of what we actually can do. It is genious really when you think about it. After we lose 6 games or so, we will pull out the real game plan(s), which we would have been practicing and perfecting for 8 weeks (with our secret weapon JC) and we will win out to the Superbowl.

All of you negative guys and gals are falling for the sting. Didn't you get the memo about the TPS Cover Sheets?

:lol1:
Man, that would be SO messed up if that was actually true, LOL! I do appreciate the humor on this dreary Monday...

[skinfanatic]

i am waiting one more week. if the texans beat us i believe it is then time to have a nice big freak out.

[PennSkinsFan]

The troubling stat is third down conversions. In two games, thje Redskins are a miserable 6/27

[skinfan43]

The troubling stat is third down conversions. In two games, thje Redskins are a miserable 6/27
Even more importantly PSF, do you know what our rate is for ALLOWING third down conversions?? I don't know exactly, but I think it is very bad indeed:rolleyes:

[Bluuz]

Great thread. Fans take your Xanex and calm down. It's week 2, with the rest of the division at 1-1.

Beating the Cowboys in Texas is always a tall order no matter how good or bad they are. Yes, it hurts to think about the Cowboys fans high fiving, partying after the game and watching the replays over and over. Hopefully we'll get payback when they come to town in Nov.

There are two possibilities at this point: 1) that the Skins are as bad as they look right now and 2) the Skins are still getting it together and not in regular season form yet.

I suppose we'll find out in the next few weeks.

[BurgundyNGold]

The troubling stat is third down conversions. In two games, thje Redskins are a miserable 6/27
That's because we're routinely in 3rd and 8+.

[PennSkinsFan]

I think we are still trying to hide our offensive and defensive play books.

We are purposely game planning without using our playbooks at all (more like street football), so that we don't give teams any film of what we actually can do. It is genious really when you think about it. After we lose 6 games or so, we will pull out the real game plan(s), which we would have been practicing and perfecting for 8 weeks (with our secret weapon JC) and we will win out to the Superbowl.

All of you negative guys and gals are falling for the sting. Didn't you get the memo about the TPS Cover Sheets?

:lol1:

If were still hiding playbooks, and weree int he regular season and we took a loss by hiding the playbook to the dallas Cowboys, this entire coaching staff should be fired. And yes, I understand the humor.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I guess this is a sign of the state of the team and this board. There are about 1/2 dozen negative threads, each ten pages long, and this one positive thread is only four pages, 1/2 of which are also negative posts.

I know we are playing awful, but I just have a gut feeling we are going to turn it around. I think it is going to take time and something to get us into that groove.

By the way, as my own 2 cents, I would try no huddle for a couple of series againts Houston. Sometimes not letting the defense make substitutions allows the offense to really take advantage of mismatches.

[Skins-R-Us]

I think we all just need one great big group hug.:flower1: :Peace:

[Farmer Ted]

I'm chilling.

Fortunately (or unfortunately), I'm just as big of a redsox fan as a redskins fan. After the Brunell sack near the end of the game, I switched over to the sox-yankees game and got a nice little consolation prize (it was very little, but still it was a prize). RedskinsDave, on the other hand, got screwed three times yesterday. Heh, heh, heh.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

It's the WAY we're losing and the way our first team offense has done NOTHING now for six straight games. That's what truly troubles me and continues to hamper my chill out efforts.

But yeah, it's not over yet, but there have to be some huge changes.
It seems that I'm agreeing exactly with you on everything.

If we were playing well, and progressing, and our record were 0-2, I would chill out... but no, we're playing awful football. Especially in the O. What I notice is that the Kansas O is also awful... so they seem to miss Saunders.

[X-Factor13]

Great thread. Fans take your Xanex and calm down. It's week 2, with the rest of the division at 1-1.

Beating the Cowboys in Texas is always a tall order no matter how good or bad they are. Yes, it hurts to think about the Cowboys fans high fiving, partying after the game and watching the replays over and over. Hopefully we'll get payback when they come to town in Nov.

There are two possibilities at this point: 1) that the Skins are as bad as they look right now and 2) the Skins are still getting it together and not in regular season form yet.

I suppose we'll find out in the next few weeks.


I'm banking on number 2, or else i will be forced to go against my own advice.

[X-Factor13]

Another thing just hit me here:


Didn't we look this bad last year at this time as well? Against the bears we couldn't even score a touchdown, and patrick ramsey was starting for us! And LAST season's dallas game was played just as poorly by us, except that we cashed in on the .000001% chance that we'd score two touchdowns in 3 minutes and win the ballgame. Look guys, all i'm saying is that at this point last year, we were barely 2-0. And i mean BARELY. The same people were talking about how the sky is falling, and how we should bench ramsey/brunell in favor of someone else.


Just because we haven't won yet doesn't mean that we won't ever win, or that the old (bad) times are back. In Gibbs II his teams have had slow starts, and then come on late. If we lose to the texans, we will have something to worry about, but for now please just have patience with this team. Because it's going to be a long season if you keep your ultra-high expectations every game.

[Farmer Ted]

Didn't we look this bad last year at this time as well? Against the bears we couldn't even score a touchdown, and patrick ramsey was starting for us! And LAST season's dallas game was played just as poorly by us, except that we cashed in on the .000001% chance that we'd score two touchdowns in 3 minutes and win the ballgame. Look guys, all i'm saying is that at this point last year, we were barely 2-0. And i mean BARELY. The same people were talking about how the sky is falling, and how we should bench ramsey/brunell in favor of someone else.
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Yeah, I was just thinking about how streaky last year's team was. They started off by winning three in a row, then losing two, then trading wins and losses the next four games until they lost three in a row. Then they won 6 in a row. I have no idea why they were so streaky, but this year's team could very well have the same character. I think that the losing is going to stop against Houston. Just imagine how psyched everyone is going to be when the Skins are called the worst 6-2 team in NFL history. I can't wait.

[shally]

Yeah, I was just thinking about how streaky last year's team was. They started off by winning three in a row, then losing two, then trading wins and losses the next four games until they lost three in a row. Then they won 6 in a row. I have no idea why they were so streaky, but this year's team could very well have the same character. I think that the losing is going to stop against Houston. Just imagine how psyched everyone is going to be when the Skins are called the worst 6-2 team in NFL history. I can't wait.

let's hope you are correct.. but it is going to take a total team turnaround to get them competitve with jax and the giants. only houston and the titans look like possible wins right now

[skinfan43]

let's hope you are correct.. but it is going to take a total team turnaround to get them competitve with jax and the giants. only houston and the titans look like possible wins right now
It's both frustrating and amazing that even THIS word needs to be added these days when talking about the Skins winning vs. an opponent like these...

[skinfanjon]

I guess this is a sign of the state of the team and this board. There are about 1/2 dozen negative threads, each ten pages long, and this one positive thread is only four pages, 1/2 of which are also negative posts.

I know we are playing awful, but I just have a gut feeling we are going to turn it around. I think it is going to take time and something to get us into that groove.

By the way, as my own 2 cents, I would try no huddle for a couple of series againts Houston. Sometimes not letting the defense make substitutions allows the offense to really take advantage of mismatches.

I guess so, but you can count me in the "still believing" group. If you guys are looking for something positive, remember that our best offensive player will be returning to the lineup shortly. If that doesn't make you perk up, consider the return of our best cornerback. But if neither of those things do it for you, or the fact that we play Houston this week, just remember that this is still Joe Gibbs' football team. Whether or not he is calling the plays, he still has a guding hand over the entire organization which is a cause for optimism even in itself.

I understand the rampant negativity, it comes with the territory of being 0-2 and losing to an arch rival in a dismal display on national TV. However, I have a hunch that once this team gets a win this Sunday, it's gonna start to feel a little better about itself. A little confidence can go a long way. If we come back home at 1-2 against Jacksonville, I think we can win that one too. Call me crazy, but I think Jax isn't that bad of a matchup for us, provided we have Portis and Springs healthy, a rowdy homefield crowd, and a road win fresh in our back pockets.

Thanks to the handful of people who still attempt to spread their optimism. I feel the same way as insomnia killer...I love this team. I will never forget the incredible feelings of last year. I still believe in these guys, and even if I'm wrong about this year's squad, I still feel privilged to watch a Gibbs product on the field. Who knows how many more years we will be able to witness that blessing. Hail.