View Full Version : What does this team respond to?
PA Skins Girl
09-18-2006, 11:14 AM
Adversity.
Last year, we started very similarly, but will different results. We squeaked out a win against Chicago in week 1, playing very conservatively. Week 2 was very similar to last night's game, doing nothing on offense until we absolutely had to. We actually stumbled our way through the first 11 games will narrow victories and narrow defeats (aside from the San Fran game and the Giant game).
It wasnt until our backs were against the wall at 5-6 that we actually played solid across the board.
We seem to need to be backed into a corner before we come out fighting.
HAWGZHEAD
09-18-2006, 11:17 AM
I think they are already in that corner if any of the players believe what the outside world is saying about them. Hopefully it will be enough to make an early rebound and we won't have to wait wait until it is do or die.
SpicyMcHaggis
09-18-2006, 11:19 AM
Adversity.
Last year, we started very similarly, but will different results. We squeaked out a win against Chicago in week 1, playing very conservatively. Week 2 was very similar to last night's game, doing nothing on offense until we absolutely had to. We actually stumbled our way through the first 11 games will narrow victories and narrow defeats (aside from the San Fran game and the Giant game).
It wasnt until our backs were against the wall at 5-6 that we actually played solid across the board.
We seem to need to be backed into a corner before we come out fighting.
That's true based on last year, but really, I would prefer if we could just respond to the fact that the season has begun. If we need to be in some kind of desperate situation to give it our best effort then our problems are deeper than we thought.
Keino
09-18-2006, 11:36 AM
Adversity.
Last year, we started very similarly, but will different results. We squeaked out a win against Chicago in week 1, playing very conservatively. Week 2 was very similar to last night's game, doing nothing on offense until we absolutely had to. We actually stumbled our way through the first 11 games will narrow victories and narrow defeats (aside from the San Fran game and the Giant game).
It wasnt until our backs were against the wall at 5-6 that we actually played solid across the board.
We seem to need to be backed into a corner before we come out fighting.
What you say is true, but I view this as a problem. Championship caliber teams don't need adversity or any other outside motivators for success. They are self-motivated. The goal of winning is a motivator enough.
I hope you're right though. Our backs are against the wall right now. Hopefully someone will step up and show some heart.
SpicyMcHaggis
09-18-2006, 11:40 AM
What you say is true, but I view this as a problem. Championship caliber teams don't need adversity or any other outside motivators for success. They are self-motivated. The goal of winning is a motivator enough.
I hope you're right though. Our backs are against the wall right now. Hopefully someone will step up and show some heart.
Exactly.
PennSkinsFan
09-18-2006, 11:48 AM
What you say is true, but I view this as a problem. Championship caliber teams don't need adversity or any other outside motivators for success. They are self-motivated. The goal of winning is a motivator enough.
I hope you're right though. Our backs are against the wall right now. Hopefully someone will step up and show some heart.
Good post Sean. Exactly my thoguhts.
nicefellow31
09-18-2006, 11:49 AM
What you say is true, but I view this as a problem. Championship caliber teams don't need adversity or any other outside motivators for success. They are self-motivated. The goal of winning is a motivator enough.
I hope you're right though. Our backs are against the wall right now. Hopefully someone will step up and show some heart.
I agree. Why would you put yourself in this position? 91 Skins created adversity for their opponents, not themselves.
Slobberknocker
09-18-2006, 11:51 AM
Plus, you go to the well too often and... the well done gone dry.
joethefan
09-18-2006, 12:01 PM
A 2:00 offense. that seems like the only time that the Offense can move the ball..which blows my mind. If the D is on the field too many times I blame that on the offense. Remember the OTA's and studying and all that. They should not have to have thier backs up against the wall to get some things going.....not with all the time they put in....
Jon Jansen is money
09-18-2006, 12:03 PM
I feel that this team is going to respond well to this loss. I think we are really going to take it to Houston next week. The weeks after that? Who knows...
hail2skins
09-18-2006, 12:29 PM
They need to respond to something. Our offense has scored 1 TD in two weeks. Each and everyone of them need to check themselves. I'm talking coaches and players. I figured we'd start out slow but they are looking inept.
Redskinmayhem
09-18-2006, 12:31 PM
I hope they respond the arse whoopoing at the hands of the pukes.....otherwise, it's another year, same story and we still won't have anything to show for our effort other than a bunch of over-priced, over-rated FA aquisitions as we do every year.
grandslam
09-18-2006, 12:32 PM
they'll get it started against houston!!!
PA Skins Girl
09-18-2006, 04:29 PM
A 2:00 offense. that seems like the only time that the Offense can move the ball..which blows my mind.
That's a good point. Maybe they should use the no-huddle offense. Besides the added urgency it would provide, they would get more offensive plays. They're only getting about 53 plays on offense which is bad. The should get 60-65.
shally
09-18-2006, 04:31 PM
Adversity.
Last year, we started very similarly, but will different results. We squeaked out a win against Chicago in week 1, playing very conservatively. Week 2 was very similar to last night's game, doing nothing on offense until we absolutely had to. We actually stumbled our way through the first 11 games will narrow victories and narrow defeats (aside from the San Fran game and the Giant game).
It wasnt until our backs were against the wall at 5-6 that we actually played solid across the board.
We seem to need to be backed into a corner before we come out fighting.
i would think that cattle prods would work better:rolleyes:
SkinsfaninNJ
09-18-2006, 04:33 PM
That's a good point. Maybe they should use the no-huddle offense. Besides the added urgency it would provide, they would get more offensive plays. They're only getting about 53 plays on offense which is bad. The should get 60-65.
I mentioned this earlier in another thread, and it should be considered. With our speed, we should be taking advantage of mismatches. The best way to do that is to run a no huddle. You don't even have to run a hurry offense, just stop the defense substitutions. Both the Eagles and Colts did it to the Giants and the Jets have been doing it since preseason.
shally
09-18-2006, 04:34 PM
They need to respond to something. Our offense has scored 1 TD in two weeks. Each and everyone of them need to check themselves. I'm talking coaches and players. I figured we'd start out slow but they are looking inept.
the defense has not been any great shakes either.. it seems as if our opponents are converting every single third and long.. it is not that bad, but you could feel that way easily
shally
09-18-2006, 04:35 PM
I mentioned this earlier in another thread, and it should be considered. With our speed, we should be taking advantage of mismatches. The best way to do that is to run a no huddle. You don't even have to run a hurry offense, just stop the defense substitutions. Both the Eagles and Colts did it to the Giants and the Jets have been doing it since preseason.
the only problem with that is you can go three and out and your defense hasn't even had a chance to catch their breaths
Inuyasha
09-18-2006, 04:59 PM
assuming we even make 5-6 don't expect to win 5 in a row again and squeak into the playoffs,nfc is alittle better this year then last and teams that were under us before are now above us this year
LadyNRedskinsfan
09-18-2006, 05:04 PM
Adversity.
Last year, we started very similarly, but will different results. We squeaked out a win against Chicago in week 1, playing very conservatively. Week 2 was very similar to last night's game, doing nothing on offense until we absolutely had to. We actually stumbled our way through the first 11 games will narrow victories and narrow defeats (aside from the San Fran game and the Giant game).
It wasnt until our backs were against the wall at 5-6 that we actually played solid across the board.
We seem to need to be backed into a corner before we come out fighting.
very true and this seemed to be the case during games when we were down, the offense seemed to play better and take more risks on offense. the team has to find it within themselves to stop embarrassing themselves and the organization. they've got the right players and the right coaches. i believe its just a matter of time.........
PA Skins Girl
09-18-2006, 05:18 PM
very true and this seemed to be the case during games when we were down, the offense seemed to play better and take more risks on offense. the team has to find it within themselves to stop embarrassing themselves and the organization. they've got the right players and the right coaches. i believe its just a matter of time.........
If I had to put my finger on one thing, that would be it: Brunell needs to take more risks downfield. He needs to trust himself and his receivers.
LATrueRedskin
09-18-2006, 05:20 PM
I mentioned this earlier in another thread, and it should be considered. With our speed, we should be taking advantage of mismatches. The best way to do that is to run a no huddle. You don't even have to run a hurry offense, just stop the defense substitutions. Both the Eagles and Colts did it to the Giants and the Jets have been doing it since preseason.
IMO, it's going to have to be baby steps. If we can't put together a simple string of 5 plays or more, then we're in no position to run a hurry up offense. Coach Saunders needs to have some kind of sequence to his playcalling, and adapt to what's going on during the game. During the first two games it seems as if he's calling the plays like he's playing Madden on PS2. Our inept offensive line clearly showed they can't protect Brunell for long, so we have to gameplan for that. Not running the ball isn't helping either. Clinton or no-Clinton, we should have been running the ball way, way more than we have been.
LATrueRedskin
09-18-2006, 05:20 PM
If I had to put my finger on one thing, that would be it: Brunell needs to take more risks downfield. He needs to trust himself and his receivers.
And his OLine. Brunell doesn't trust our front guys one bit. That's half his problem.
PA Skins Girl
09-18-2006, 05:44 PM
And his OLine. Brunell doesn't trust our front guys one bit. That's half his problem.
Is it me or is Brunell not rolling out as much as he did last year. Is that by design?
hail2skins
09-18-2006, 05:45 PM
Is it me or is Brunell not rolling out as much as he did last year. Is that by design?I believe it is by design. Gibbs did roll him out more away from the pressure.
BurgundyNGold
09-18-2006, 05:45 PM
Is it me or is Brunell not rolling out as much as he did last year. Is that by design?
No, you're right, he's not. So, I have to think that it's by design. Bledsoe did though. Had a whole wall in front of him too. ;)
LATrueRedskin
09-18-2006, 05:47 PM
Is it me or is Brunell not rolling out as much as he did last year. Is that by design?
I've noticed very few, if any, plays that were designed for him to roll out.
I've noticed these first two games (especially against Dallas) that Brunell is dropping back waaaaaay too far. Now, this could be because it's designed that way, or that he just doesn't trust the guys in front of him and needs to get as far away as possible to give himself more time. I think it's the latter and it's affecting his throws.
hail2skins
09-18-2006, 05:49 PM
I've noticed very few, if any, plays that were designed for him to roll out.
I've noticed these first two games (especially against Dallas) that Brunell is dropping back waaaaaay too far. Now, this could be because it's designed that way, or that he just doesn't trust the guys in front of him and needs to get as far away as possible to give himself more time. I think it's the latter and it's affecting his throws.To get downfield long passes the quarterback needs to take 5 or 7 step dropbacks. Then when he checks off, I think it looks as though he's dropping back too far.
LATrueRedskin
09-18-2006, 05:53 PM
To get downfield long passes the quarterback needs to take 5 or 7 step dropbacks. Then when he checks off, I think it looks as though he's dropping back too far.
Yeah, I understand that, but Brunell has looked like he has the tendency to keep moving backward as he makes his rounds, and by the time he makes a decision, he's throwing the ball five more yards then he has to. I just think, overall, Brunell's mechanics are not where they should be right now, and I'm wondering if it's because of his lack of faith in our OLine's ability.
shally
09-18-2006, 06:49 PM
If I had to put my finger on one thing, that would be it: Brunell needs to take more risks downfield. He needs to trust himself and his receivers.
he is backpeddaling and running for his life.. he aint looking downfield very much...
Syllable
09-18-2006, 07:02 PM
This team responds to a good Texans Whoopin, lets get it done.
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