Are the Skins poorly coached????????

[Skinsfan1906]

It seems as though the Redskins are making an awful lot of mistakes. Yes, it's only pre-season, but something needs to be done. This team plays about as undisciplined as a team can play.

Two fights broke out in practice last week. The team (offense) is audibling an awful lot these days and having to rush to get the ball off in time. We are also breaking out of the huddle late.

As far as INTENSITY is concerned............WE HAVE NONE. Except for a few players, most of our players look like they are simply "going through the motions".

I know that Spurrier has "toned down" his play calling this pre-season, after exposing his whole hand last pre-season. Still, offensive players sometimes look confused.


Spurrier also says in post game interviews (both games) that we have to "coach better". We have new O and D coordinators who are taking a lot of new responsibilities, and I understand that it is a growing process.

I (for one) am a Spurrier fan. Love the guy. However it begs the question: Do we have a coaching problem?????

[Patrick]

Good question. I think the answer to that will become clear by the last PS game. You can sense that SS is REALLY getting frustrated with the stupid mistakes. We'll probably see (hear or read) about some Coach on coaches this week. .......... One the other hand, maybe there are so many mistakes because the offense IS being held back. You get all kinds of mixed reports on the new every night about how the offense is doing. It's really hard to tell. ........ But IMO, we'll have a pretty good idea by next week.

[NamVet4]

Every year, every team has a coaching problem. The era of Free Agency has seen to that - - there are always new players on every team every year - new learning experiences! For the Redskins, once again, a new Defensive Coordinator and Coach Spurrier attempting to rethink how he coaches and what his responsibilities are during game time. I’m not surprised, but will be if the Team is not ready on opening day:(

[rskinsfan10]

Spurrier's "we have to coach better comments" are purely mind game statements IMO, and I applaud him for them if my theory is correct. I believe that he is imploring an anti-Mike Martz approach. Instead of standing in front of the media and berating his players for mistakes (i.e. Martz trashing Trung Canidate) he simply throws the majority of the blame on his shoulders as far as the media goes. I think this goes along way as far as the players go. Maybe they will say to themselves coach is deflecting the critisism off of us a little bit, so we need to buckle down and stop making the mistakes that we have been making.

As for the audibling, I'm not sure why so many folks lately (fans and media) are making such a big deal about this. It is the Spurrier way of football, and always has been. The QB's job is to scan the defense and check down to something that will work better in his opinion. No other QB in the league will have Ramsey's freedom at the line other then Manning, who was calling his own plays as of last year. I don't find the audibling to be a concern at all.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10

As for the audibling, I'm not sure why so many folks lately (fans and media) are making such a big deal about this. It is the Spurrier way of football, and always has been. The QB's job is to scan the defense and check down to something that will work better in his opinion. No other QB in the league will have Ramsey's freedom at the line other then Manning, who was calling his own plays as of last year. I don't find the audibling to be a concern at all.

Yes..... BUT the problem we are having is that the clock is running down to 1 seconds - It's not hard to antisipate the snap at that point and it gives the entire Defense an advantage.

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Spurrier's "we have to coach better comments" are purely mind game statements IMO, and I applaud him for them if my theory is correct. I believe that he is imploring an anti-Mike Martz approach. Instead of standing in front of the media and berating his players for mistakes (i.e. Martz trashing Trung Canidate) he simply throws the majority of the blame on his shoulders as far as the media goes. I think this goes along way as far as the players go. Maybe they will say to themselves coach is deflecting the critisism off of us a little bit, so we need to buckle down and stop making the mistakes that we have been making.

I agree 100%. Spurrier would rather place blame on himself than on the players. The outcome, unfortunately, is that the media and Skins haters use this as "evidence" that Spurrier is the problem...when we all know some of the problems stem from players not doing their best.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Patrick
Yes..... BUT the problem we are having is that the clock is running down to 1 seconds - It's not hard to antisipate the snap at that point and it gives the entire Defense an advantage.

That may be true, and I agree with you, but my point is we knew that was what we were getting when Snyder hired Spurrier. At least those that watched Gator games knew that was the case. The only remedy I can foresee is the coaches getting the initial call into the QB about 5 seconds faster.

[hail2skins]

I believe the clock issues relate to indecision on the coaches part. There were a couple of situations Saturday where the correct personnel was in the huddle or the coaches hadnt' made a decision on which play to call. As for the audibles, as others have mentioned, they are required for this offense. Spurrier or whoever is calling the plays should make that decision faster and players have to know if they're required or not for a given play. They are working with alot of new people so I expect this issue to dissolve in the regular season.

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by hail2skins
They are working with alot of new people so I expect this issue to dissolve in the regular season.

So do I...and that is why we have preseason games! Spurrier is still adapting to the NFL...and he is using these games as practice for the regular season.

[camasterton]

Originally posted by Patrick
Yes..... BUT the problem we are having is that the clock is running down to 1 seconds - It's not hard to antisipate the snap at that point and it gives the entire Defense an advantage.
This is the main fault with the present system. Either the staff is taking too long to get the play in or the players are taking too long to get started. The reults are false sarts, holding penalties, delay of game penalties... The opponent's defenses are getting good jumps and reads on our O. We damn near led the league in penalties last year, and the pressure applied against our QBs was obvious.

[Patrick]

Getting the call into the huddle WILL help alot no doubt. The other thing is recognition on Ramsey's part. We're getting to the line with 10 seconds but when he calls the audible, he's taking way too long. IMO, Patrick not scanning the field until he gets under center. (Watch Bret Farve, he's scanning the field the moment he leaves the huddle) ...... Don't misunderstand me, I have NO problem with SS system. I loved watching the Gators. .. Coach has just got to translate his system to Ramsey .... AND it's coming - Hopefully sooner than later. AND same hold true for Rob Johnson.

[jsarno]

I'm not worried...it's only preseason, first week will tell a lot. I'll wait til then first.
It's tough for all the lines / strings to get it together.

[TexSkin]

Sorry guys..but I heard this all the time when Marrty was here..the whole its only preseason thing...if they don't show some improvement in this next game we might be in a little trouble. Not saying the whole season is down the tubes..but we might be in for a rough start. :(

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by TexSkin
Sorry guys..but I heard this all the time when Marrty was here..the whole its only preseason thing...if they don't show some improvement in this next game we might be in a little trouble. Not saying the whole season is down the tubes..but we might be in for a rough start. :(

But wouldn't you say that there was improvement from Carolina/Pats? I know that some of you guys weren't able to actually watch the game, but there was a significant amount of positives this past weekend compared to the previous week.

[TexSkin]

I know there was improvements but the team still looked sloppy as hell. If a Parcells team did that there would be hell to pay. Man I really wish the Tuna did not go to Dallas. I liked the guy. :(

[Skinsfan1906]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
But wouldn't you say that there was improvement from Carolina/Pats? I know that some of you guys weren't able to actually watch the game, but there was a significant amount of positives this past weekend compared to the previous week.

rskinsfan10: Nice picture. Which one are you.........and who is the "white corporate guy" posing with you:D??

On a more serious note, I wanted to thank you guys for your insight. I agree with most of the coments. Redskins fans are truly intelligent and know the game of football.

This is what the pre-season is for. As I mentioned, I AM a Steve Spurrier fan and if (or shall I say WHEN) the offense is a smooth operating machine and "clicking on all cylinders"..........we will be SCARY (providing we also have a decent running came to compliment the pass). I can't wait.

Man, I am really starting to take to Laverneus Coles. He seems to catch a long pass every game. Hasn't missed any pass thrown to him. I know that Spurrier is "holding back" the playbook for now. This is obvious. I can't wait until we "unleash the dragon".

[kelly]

Originally posted by Skinsfan1906
It seems as though the Redskins are making an awful lot of mistakes. Yes, it's only pre-season, but something needs to be done. This team plays about as undisciplined as a team can play.

Two fights broke out in practice last week. The team (offense) is audibling an awful lot these days and having to rush to get the ball off in time. We are also breaking out of the huddle late.

As far as INTENSITY is concerned............WE HAVE NONE. Except for a few players, most of our players look like they are simply "going through the motions".

I know that Spurrier has "toned down" his play calling this pre-season, after exposing his whole hand last pre-season. Still, offensive players sometimes look confused.


Spurrier also says in post game interviews (both games) that we have to "coach better". We have new O and D coordinators who are taking a lot of new responsibilities, and I understand that it is a growing process.

I (for one) am a Spurrier fan. Love the guy. However it begs the question: Do we have a coaching problem?????


" Do we have a coaching problem????? "
answer : spurrier is the head coach.
(enough said).


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[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Skinsfan1906
rskinsfan10: Nice picture. Which one are you.........and who is the "white corporate guy" posing with you:D??

I would be the big guy to the right.

As far as the "white corporate guy", he was just some dude that ran up to us claiming to be a big fan and asked if he could take a pic with us.:cool:

[Redskinmayhem]

Originally posted by Skinsfan1906
I can't wait until we "unleash the dragon".

I cant wait till Spurrier yells to Ramsey: "RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!"

I don't know how many games we'll win....but There will be hell to pay if we get our offense going correctly.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Originally posted by Patrick
Yes..... BUT the problem we are having is that the clock is running down to 1 seconds - It's not hard to antisipate the snap at that point and it gives the entire Defense an advantage.
i noticed in the last game that the O went to the line at around 20 ticks, ramsey checked the D and audibled to a new play if need be with plenty of time to spare.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

That reminds me, Kenny, I think I saw ya on the big screen during the game Saturday night.

It's hard to tell if we have a coaching problem right now. Most of the penalties can be attributed to either new players coming into the system or problems with the audibles, both of which are the exact things that the preseason is for. Let's just hope they get ironed out before September fourth.

[GhostRider68]

The reason for the sloppiness goes back to the coach. It appears to me Spurrier is nothing more than Norv part 2. I know it's only the pre-season but I would like to see some crispness in the 1st string.

[Seebs]

Make the season starts, and we'll be able to have more accurate comments. Pre-season don't mean a thing.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by LadyNRedskinsfan
i noticed in the last game that the O went to the line at around 20 ticks, ramsey checked the D and audibled to a new play if need be with plenty of time to spare.

Once (maybe twice) that happen and maybe it was a sign that Patrick is learning. BUT if you'd been able to listen to Sonny, he was going crazy over this time after time.

[TexSkin]

First of all welcome Trung24....second I agree with you..that comes down to coaching and these guys have looked sloppy as hell. If they can't get the little things right how the hell are they gonna get the rest done?

[NamVet4]

Originally posted by TexSkin
... I agree with you..that comes down to coaching and these guys have looked sloppy as hell. If they can't get the little things right how the hell are they gonna get the rest done?

I agree to the point that once again this year the Team has new coaches.... We need consistency and contiuity. Then the problem will dissipate. In the mean time.... they have got to get the little things rightand the big things will fall into line.

[hail2skins]

Well, I was listening to Sportstalk Radio yesterday and they were slamming Spurrier for his coaching (lack of). They said the team is sloppy and it's reflective of Spurrier. 25 penalties in two games and how Spurrier keeps saying over and over that we have to coach smarter and better. They were really down on him.

[RedskinRyan]

im not sure about this. im honestly starting to lose faith in spurrier. and i'll prolly have to put up with him for the next 4 years.

[jporterweb]

Originally posted by TexSkin
Sorry guys..but I heard this all the time when Marrty was here..the whole its only preseason thing...if they don't show some improvement in this next game we might be in a little trouble. Not saying the whole season is down the tubes..but we might be in for a rough start. :(

Umm...remind me how many preseason games we won in 1992? 'Nuff said.

[TexSkin]

jporterweb that was because we had alot of proven vets that did not to play alot in pre-season. I wish I could have your insight but its not about if they won or lost. Its how sloppy they played. I could care less about the score to be honest. Its all the penalties and mental errors this team is making. If you use the excuse for ST that they are testing different players,then why is not every NFL team giving up TD's on their kickoffs and punts? I will try and get excited but they really need to step up.

[Skinzaholic]

Do you think Spurrier really IS holding back the offense this Pre-season? That has been the comments that seem to continue flying around... that he is trying to prevent his mistakes from last year... so he is doing opposite.

[hail2skins]

I think he's holding back some but remember, teams saw the offense last year. Has he changed it alot, we don't know.

[PennSkinsFan]

Fact is he may have overplayed the card too much last pre-season.

[RedskinNation]

I'm not sure Spurrier has control of the team. He's a bit of a nutter if you ask me. He seems overwhelmed by the NFL. With that said, we have good players...they just need to check their egos at the door play as a team! Maybe Spurrier should get the whole team together to watch "Remember The Titans" lol.
Go Redskins!