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GibbsFan
10-01-2006, 11:23 PM
I'm not ready to proclaim Mike Rumph all pro or anything yet but the guy has turned out some decent play including breaking up a TD saving pass late in the game and stirpping TO a few weeks back was good too. Great trade, already one of the best in Redskins history IMO.
GoDannyBoy
10-01-2006, 11:28 PM
I checked the stats and didn't notice any tackles. Did he play much or what?

I like the way he hits. I bet we see more of him even when Springs is back.

Wright got two tackles and an assist. Rodgers had like four or five. We got burned all day. I can't wait for Springs to get back on the field!
Biggie
10-01-2006, 11:29 PM
Well, let's compare:


Taylor Jacobs: 0 catches, 0 yards
Mike Rumph: 6 tackles, 3 passes defendedYeah, I'd say it's looking good for us so far.
GibbsFan
10-01-2006, 11:33 PM
I was'nt hoping for much more than a glass of water for Jacobs, though LOL!
Biggie
10-01-2006, 11:34 PM
I was'nt hoping for much more than a glass of water for Jacobs, though LOL!

The glass of water would still have better hands. :rolleyes:
ryflan47
10-01-2006, 11:35 PM
The glass of water would still have better hands. :rolleyes:

And see the practice field more.
Slobberknocker
10-01-2006, 11:41 PM
His solo deep coverage late in the game was air-tight. We could have easily given up a touchdown, but allowed them only 3 points instead, which sent us to overtime.

I believe Rumph will be a younger Pierson Preilou once Springs returns. He's only going to get better in the Williams system.

A steal, IMHO.
LATrueRedskin
10-01-2006, 11:43 PM
I wouldn't say one of the best in Redskins history, but we are clearly getting more out of Mike Rumph then we would have in Taylor Jacobs. A great move by Coach and the FO to get a guy who is useful to the team, rather than a player who was completely useless for us and also seems to be so in San Fran.
helimech24
10-01-2006, 11:53 PM
I wouldn't say one of the best in Redskins history, but we are clearly getting more out of Mike Rumph then we would have in Taylor Jacobs. A great move by Coach and the FO to get a guy who is useful to the team, rather than a player who was completely useless for us and also seems to be so in San Fran.And he seems to have a lot more upside and talent that Kenny Wright, who is as much of a liability as AA is in coverage. Rumph was a great pick up, but not of all time.
Fathead
10-01-2006, 11:56 PM
Rumph looks like a decent player. Compared to what we gave up for him, he looks like a hall of famer.
RedskinRyan
10-02-2006, 12:03 AM
And he seems to have a lot more upside and talent that Kenny Wright, who is as much of a liability as AA is in coverage. Rumph was a great pick up, but not of all time.

helimech, you HAVE to continue the trend of skins colored team logos

i wouldnt say this is anywhere close to being one of the top trades in team history, but definitly in our favor.
LATrueRedskin
10-02-2006, 12:04 AM
helimech, you HAVE to continue the trend of skins colored team logos

i wouldnt say this is anywhere close to being one of the top trades in team history, but definitly in our favor.

Yep. Even if you don't want to, helimech, you have to do it.
helimech24
10-02-2006, 12:07 AM
Don't worry guys I am going to. I just can't do it myself, so I have to wait for CarMike or Lady to help me out. I wonder if I should put the Lucky Avatar thread on Comanche or keep it in Apache....hmmmm
whistleandthumb
10-02-2006, 12:19 AM
The guy's been solid so far, for sure. I certainly feel more confident with him in the secondary than I do Walt Harris. Plus, as long as he actually MAKES a play in the game, we've gotten more from him that we did TJ.
C-7
10-02-2006, 02:12 AM
He seems to fit well in the system. For what Jaccobs was doing over here, I'd say it was a great trade.
SkinsKY
10-02-2006, 04:06 AM
Yep Rumph isn't a starter, but he gives us something, and that's better than what Jacobs gave us.
HailVictory
10-02-2006, 04:38 AM
Yep Rumph isn't a starter, but he gives us something, and that's better than what Jacobs gave us.
If Mr. Rumph continues to progress within our system, we may not have to burn our 1st pick on a cb. His progression, and his ability to play safety in a pinch, might let us take the BPAvailable or target a speedy nickle cb in the later rounds. This development would be huge, and push this trade up in the rankings for all-time best trades.
PA Skins Girl
10-02-2006, 06:41 AM
I agree!
akhhorus
10-02-2006, 08:16 AM
I checked the stats and didn't notice any tackles. Did he play much or what?

Yeah, I saw him out there at RCB all day. Nobody is throwing at him, until that one late.
Redskin4Life
10-02-2006, 08:23 AM
The glass of water would still have better hands. :rolleyes:
And be just as fragile...
Redskinfan28
10-02-2006, 08:30 AM
He seems to fit well in the system. For what Jaccobs was doing over here, I'd say it was a great trade.

I agree that the trade was good for the Redskins. It made sense because we got a CB who would actually contribute a little vs. a guy who wouldn't make the roster.
PennSkinsFan
10-02-2006, 08:33 AM
Runmph made an outstanding breakup right in front of my eyes in the endzone. I was in Row 2 opposite the band, and the play he made, getting his hand in there while falling back was great. Guy is a gamer!
Syllable
10-02-2006, 09:16 AM
Remember who Mike Rumph was before he went to SF..... Give him some time and he will be better.
santanadasavior
10-02-2006, 09:19 AM
He is a straight up gamer, he makes plays when we need him to and I love it. He broke up a big play with Owens and then he was attacked one on one at the end of game and he broke the pass up and nearly intercepted it. It was simply great coverage and I think it was way more than we could have expected to get for Taylor Jacobs.
Hr fan
10-02-2006, 09:21 AM
If Mr. Rumph continues to progress within our system, we may not have to burn our 1st pick on a cb. His progression, and his ability to play safety in a pinch, might let us take the BPAvailable or target a speedy nickle cb in the later rounds. This development would be huge, and push this trade up in the rankings for all-time best trades.

Agree with your assessment. A former 1st rounder, very new to the defense which is complex, is playing well, arguably better than Rogers. When he becomes familiar with the system and his teammates get familiar with him he may just reach the potential that made him a 1st rounder. Even now, he is a really important pickup with the loss of Prelieu for essentially a scout team player.
DarkLord91
10-02-2006, 10:03 AM
Gotta love those players from The U!
BurgundyNGold
10-02-2006, 10:24 AM
I think this week was a great matchup for Rumph. He can cover the bigger receivers really well. It's the smaller, quicker guys that give him fits. As long as we can put him on the bigger guys like Wolford and Jones he'll do pretty well. That said, Toomer and Burress are both big, yet they are also better than what we faced this week. I guess we'll find out how well Rumph is doing this week in NY. ;)
skinsfan36
10-02-2006, 10:38 AM
he matches up with big recievers well and well be a great nickel when springs is back.
BurgundyNGold
10-02-2006, 10:43 AM
he matches up with big recievers well and well be a great nickel when springs is back.
As long as he doesn't have to cover the slot receiver. ;)

He hits like a truck though and is pretty good in run support. Honestly, I think having the other U guys on the team will do wonders for him.
Redskin4Life
10-02-2006, 10:46 AM
I think this week was a great matchup for Rumph. He can cover the bigger receivers really well. It's the smaller, quicker guys that give him fits. As long as we can put him on the bigger guys like Wolford and Jones he'll do pretty well. That said, Toomer and Burress are both big, yet they are also better than what we faced this week. I guess we'll find out how well Rumph is doing this week in NY. ;)
Are you basing this assumption on the first two weeks or from his time in SF? I would say with the continued improvement from week to week and the growing familarity with the defensive schemes that everyone here in the hR has reason to be excited about him. And the thoughts of him saving us a 1st rounder on a CB is NOT out of the question.

Having Rogers, Springs and Rumph at CB will allow us to focus on other positions to upgrade... maybe TE, OL or DE. Or the decision I would rather for us to go.... TRADE DOWN.
silverspring
10-02-2006, 10:47 AM
Rumph looks better every game. Especially considering he didn't get signed until late preseason i am happy with how he is progressing. We need to do something about wright though. I don't know why they don't play jimoh more.
BurgundyNGold
10-02-2006, 11:26 AM
Are you basing this assumption on the first two weeks or from his time in SF? I would say with the continued improvement from week to week and the growing familarity with the defensive schemes that everyone here in the hR has reason to be excited about him. And the thoughts of him saving us a 1st rounder on a CB is NOT out of the question.
Both, actually. He is not a particularly fluid CB and has a hard time turning and running with quicker receivers. He's also historically been susceptible to the double move. That's why they tried to move him to S in SF.

But you are right, Rumph is getting better every week. I think this scheme fits his style of play well and, by and large, allows him to use his strengths while not having to battle his weaknesses. That will be even more the case when Springs returns.

Also, I think having Taylor back there in the secondary with him will make him even better. Those U guys work with each other to make the other better.

Having Rogers, Springs and Rumph at CB will allow us to focus on other positions to upgrade... maybe TE, OL or DE. Or the decision I would rather for us to go.... TRADE DOWN.
I won't say that just yet. I think Rogers was drafted to be an immediate replacement for Smoot and an eventual replacement for Springs. I like Rogers, but to this point, I don't know that he has been either.
HailVictory
10-02-2006, 01:01 PM
I think Rogers was drafted to be an immediate replacement for Smoot and an eventual replacement for Springs. I like Rogers, but to this point, I don't know that he has been either.
The thing I've liked about Carlos from the beginning was his closing speed in run support. He closes fast, and hits hard. When he learns to apply that closing speed to the pass defending area, and stops giving such big cushions, he'll be an excellent corner. I also see alot of similarities between Rumph & Rogers.
Redskin4Life
10-02-2006, 01:25 PM
The thing I've liked about Carlos from the beginning was his closing speed in run support. He closes fast, and hits hard. When he learns to apply that closing speed to the pass defending area, and stops giving such big cushions, he'll be an excellent corner. I also see alot of similarities between Rumph & Rogers.
Only difference between these guys and Springs is experience... Springs has had more time in his career to sit and learn (because of injury). I think the coaching staff got a better idea of what they got with these guys the past 4 games. And I think the experience of dealing without Shawn was good for the whole unit but in particular those two guys.
BurgundyNGold
10-02-2006, 01:28 PM
Only difference between these guys and Springs is experience... Springs has had more time in his career to sit and learn (because of injury). I think the coaching staff got a better idea of what they got with these guys the past 4 games. And I think the experience of dealing without Shawn was good for the whole unit but in particular those two guys.
Neither Rogers nor Rumph are as fast as Springs. IMO, they'll never be as good either. That said, getting game experience has made the secondary better. You can see it each week.
BurgundyNGold
10-02-2006, 01:29 PM
The thing I've liked about Carlos from the beginning was his closing speed in run support. He closes fast, and hits hard. When he learns to apply that closing speed to the pass defending area, and stops giving such big cushions, he'll be an excellent corner. I also see alot of similarities between Rumph & Rogers.
He is a top 10% corner in run support. However, his coverage skills are still lagging behind.
DUCKIN_TACKLERS
10-02-2006, 01:40 PM
I am still very pleased with him..Great call picking him up. I wish they would blitz him more he is a serious hitter. He reminds me of Springs with his run coverage and size. I hope he keeps up the improvement he could definetly be a starter for some teams.
Syllable
10-02-2006, 03:23 PM
As long as he doesn't have to cover the slot receiver. ;)

He hits like a truck though and is pretty good in run support. Honestly, I think having the other U guys on the team will do wonders for him.
I think because he was originally a Safety type Player?
akhhorus
10-02-2006, 03:30 PM
I think because he was originally a Safety type Player?

No, he was a CB in college, then moved to FS by the 49ers.
LATrueRedskin
10-02-2006, 04:17 PM
Rumph looks better every game. Especially considering he didn't get signed until late preseason i am happy with how he is progressing. We need to do something about wright though. I don't know why they don't play jimoh more.

Yeah he really is, so much so that it's really noticable, both in the plays he makes and the lack of throws at him. The more he plays, the better he'll get. He may even fit that "1st rounder" bill attached to him.
Meatsnack
10-02-2006, 05:38 PM
Rumph has indeed improved with every game. I don't want to put a ceiling on the guy. Let him show what he can do. By next season I think we could have a real player on our hands. He certainly played against enough pro-level competition at Miami for us to think he can play corner at a high level.

Jerry Gray is the key to his and Carlos' development and big reason why either will be a better player here than anywhere else.
DoGood
10-02-2006, 06:02 PM
For Taylor Jacobs?:lol1:

I would have taken a bag of dirt for him.
GoDannyBoy
10-02-2006, 07:17 PM
He is a straight up gamer, he makes plays when we need him to and I love it. He broke up a big play with Owens and then he was attacked one on one at the end of game and he broke the pass up and nearly intercepted it. It was simply great coverage and I think it was way more than we could have expected to get for Taylor Jacobs.

The timing on picking him up pushes up the value of this trade. With Springs going and Rumph coming Jimoh is on the bench for a reason. When Springs is back out coverage should really pick up.
Red Bear
10-02-2006, 08:01 PM
i think rumph for taylor jacobs has turned out to be a good trade for us. even tho kenny wright has seemed to settle down a little bit lately after getting off to a very rough start, i sometimes wonder why rumph isnt starting over him. i guess because wright has been here longer in the offseason workouts, team meetings, and stuff. plus he does have more overall experience. i just wish our secondary would pull down a few more interceptions
shally
10-02-2006, 08:03 PM
I'm not ready to proclaim Mike Rumph all pro or anything yet but the guy has turned out some decent play including breaking up a TD saving pass late in the game and stirpping TO a few weeks back was good too. Great trade, already one of the best in Redskins history IMO.

he will get better and better. just wait until springs comes back and he has the #3 receiver...
shally
10-02-2006, 08:04 PM
Yeah he really is, so much so that it's really noticable, both in the plays he makes and the lack of throws at him. The more he plays, the better he'll get. He may even fit that "1st rounder" bill attached to him.

no matter what, it is a case of making something out of nothing.. jacobs clearly was not making the team this year and we needed help in the secondary.. besides, getting another player from the U, priceless...
RedSkinBrit
10-03-2006, 06:11 AM
Rumph has done well and will be a great asset to the Redskins.
Warrior 007
10-03-2006, 11:32 AM
Once Springs comes back....Rumph matched up against the 3rd best WR on the opposite team as the nickel corner....he will really shine then.

And wouldn't ya'll say Springs, Rogers & Rumph might be better than the '04 corners of Springs, Smoot & Harris
DCassain21
10-03-2006, 11:40 AM
great trade.... he's going to be a very good nickel when springs gets back
Meatsnack
10-03-2006, 12:20 PM
I would go further and say that he will make a great package free safety and #2 corner by this time next year. A year of coaching by Jerry Grey will work wonder for Mike. He always had the talent but has been stuck with Nimrods for coaches. I would not be at all surprised to see us have Carlos Rogers and Rumph as our starting corners in two years, assuming they both continue to develop to fit their talent.
shally
10-03-2006, 12:26 PM
I would go further and say that he will make a great package free safety and #2 corner by this time next year. A year of coaching by Jerry Grey will work wonder for Mike. He always had the talent but has been stuck with Nimrods for coaches. I would not be at all surprised to see us have Carlos Rogers and Rumph as our starting corners in two years, assuming they both continue to develop to fit their talent.

what, no jimoh ?? seriously, he seems to be the forgotten man on defense this year so far.. even burns gets in before he does..
Meatsnack
10-03-2006, 12:46 PM
what, no jimoh ?? seriously, he seems to be the forgotten man on defense this year so far.. even burns gets in before he does..
You know, that is a very fine point. Ade's play had improved enough that by end season last year I considered him a good nickel corner. I guess GW disagrees?
redwolf1218
04-07-2008, 07:54 PM
I'm not ready to proclaim Mike Rumph all pro or anything yet but the guy has turned out some decent play including breaking up a TD saving pass late in the game and stirpping TO a few weeks back was good too. Great trade, already one of the best in Redskins history IMO.

in my boredom, i have made this retro thread day. shame on me.
tbfoster1
04-07-2008, 08:00 PM
in my boredom, i have made this retro thread day. shame on me.

Its actually pretty funny looking back on these kinds of threads
Redskinfan28
04-07-2008, 08:44 PM
in my boredom, i have made this retro thread day. shame on me.

LOL/
shally
04-07-2008, 09:10 PM
in my boredom, i have made this retro thread day. shame on me.

Lordy.... i feared he was our next off season big signing..


whew !!!!!!!!!!!
skins111111
04-07-2008, 09:54 PM
great debth.......Springs Rogers Smoot Rumph Wright
redskin_rich
04-07-2008, 10:48 PM
in my boredom, i have made this retro thread day. shame on me.

Nothing wrong with that, especially with so little to talk about right now but I don't know what relevance this one has right now.
joethefan
04-07-2008, 10:54 PM
I was like "what in the world!!!!" After reading that title....
smoak
04-08-2008, 06:19 AM
Its actually pretty funny looking back on these kinds of threads

I agree, but when I saw the title, I assumed Rumph was arrested. :D
hail2skins
04-08-2008, 07:18 AM
I say redwolf has to provide all of the beer at the next tailgate.