View Full Version : curmudgeon's corner-- the old man speaks
shally
10-02-2006, 10:37 PM
man, it is tough being grumpy after a win like that.. talk about a season on the brink ? hard to remember too many sweeter than that one.. unless it was against an nfc opponent.. guess we will have to wait for next week for that..
what do i want to say ?
well, is it me, or is rock starting to remind me more and more of b mitch running those kickoffs back..? he has figured it out that the only way to go is straight up the gut.. and being as short as he is actually plays to his advantage because i do not think the defenders see him until he is past the wedge. 30 yards per pop is just fine with me.. just hold onto that pumpkin, please...
is there a more emotional leader on the skins than sellers? i do not think so. he lives to hit people. playing under just the least bit of discipline has turned him from a player to be fear by BOTH teams, into a player to be feared by our opponents.. he is classic old fashioned HOG
and the o line ? man, i thought i was really watching to HOGS.. vintage brutalizing of an opponent with the running game. loved it.. loved it every minute.. 1 more carry to convert that 3rd down with 2 minutes would have snuffed them out in regulation.. get duckett warmed up will you ?
not going to even mention moss except to say .. it is he and not s smith who is the most dangerous receiver with a ball in his hands in the nfl.. double coverage ? that is just 2 players who will look foolish on the tapes on monday...
nice to see them remember that cooley is still on the team.. and i do not care whether he went out of bounds or not, that last catch was as good as any fred biletnikoff made..
lloyd? he had 6 if brunell had put the ball accurately. but, you got to put the ball away when you catch it..
portis ? the man... betts... ran tough and i like him catching the ball out of the backfield even if i would prefer duckett get those carries..
good to see sightings of carter and arch on defense. continued fine work by golston, d evans and montgomery.. we are developing depth on the d line and it will pay off the later we get in the season.
not the greatest game by the linebackers.. missed some tackles, guys..
time to begin to get some rocky sightings please...
is there a tougher team to run against right now ? i do not see it.. BUT, our pass defense is way way too porous.. let's hope springs makes everybody several times better. can he do it? i expect rumph to continue to improve game by game and i think rogers and taylor will benefit immensely from his influence. wright ? well, he did tip a ball (i believe it was him) and he managed not to get flagged for pass interference this time.. i still feel knots in my stomach every time a deep pass is thrown his way.. burns? i only hope that doughty grows up enough to put him on the inactive list.. might not happen this year. fox ? nah...
so where to we go from here ? well onto giant stadium for our next huge game. if we can win, we should roll over the titans. so this is the time to put a dagger in L-L-H and the other clowns from jersey this week...
and jansen ? remember you own strahan and you have got brunell's back side... the solution ? run the ball another 35 times.... more on that later this week..
GGGGGOOOOOOO SSSSSKKKKKIIIINNNNSSSSSSSS !!!!!
helimech24
10-02-2006, 10:48 PM
man, it is tough being grumpy after a win like that.. talk about a season on the brink ? hard to remember too many sweeter than that one.. unless it was against an nfc opponent.. guess we will have to wait for next week for that..
what do i want to say ?
well, is it me, or is rock starting to remind me more and more of b mitch running those kickoffs back..? he has figured it out that the only way to go is straight up the gut.. and being as short as he is actually plays to his advantage because i do not think the defenders see him until he is past the wedge. 30 yards per pop is just fine with me.. just hold onto that pumpkin, please...
is there a more emotional leader on the skins than sellers? i do not think so. he lives to hit people. playing under just the least bit of discipline has turned him from a player to be fear by BOTH teams, into a player to be feared by our opponents.. he is classic old fashioned HOG
and the o line ? man, i thought i was really watching to HOGS.. vintage brutalizing of an opponent with the running game. loved it.. loved it every minute.. 1 more carry to convert that 3rd down with 2 minutes would have snuffed them out in regulation.. get duckett warmed up will you ?
not going to even mention moss except to say .. it is he and not s smith who is the most dangerous receiver with a ball in his hands in the nfl.. double coverage ? that is just 2 players who will look foolish on the tapes on monday...
nice to see them remember that cooley is still on the team.. and i do not care whether he went out of bounds or not, that last catch was as good as any fred biletnikoff made..
lloyd? he had 6 if brunell had put the ball accurately. but, you got to put the ball away when you catch it..
portis ? the man... betts... ran tough and i like him catching the ball out of the backfield even if i would prefer duckett get those carries..
good to see sightings of carter and arch on defense. continued fine work by golston, d evans and montgomery.. we are developing depth on the d line and it will pay off the later we get in the season.
not the greatest game by the linebackers.. missed some tackles, guys..
time to begin to get some rocky sightings please...
is there a tougher team to run against right now ? i do not see it.. BUT, our pass defense is way way too porous.. let's hope springs makes everybody several times better. can he do it? i expect rumph to continue to improve game by game and i think rogers and taylor will benefit immensely from his influence. wright ? well, he did tip a ball (i believe it was him) and he managed not to get flagged for pass interference this time.. i still feel knots in my stomach every time a deep pass is thrown his way.. burns? i only hope that doughty grows up enough to put him on the inactive list.. might not happen this year. fox ? nah...
so where to we go from here ? well onto giant stadium for our next huge game. if we can win, we should roll over the titans. so this is the time to put a dagger in L-L-H and the other clowns from jersey this week...
and jansen ? remember you own strahan and you have got brunell's back side... the solution ? run the ball another 35 times.... more on that later this week..
GGGGGOOOOOOO SSSSSKKKKKIIIINNNNSSSSSSSS !!!!!
I tell you what, when the cameras were off and the goalline/extra point was over. The whole team came off the field, except Sellers. He was walking right down the middle of the field, waving his arms to keep everyone in the game. He did that constantly during the game. It was great seeing that excitement that only Marcus Washington can come close too. I think I am getting a Sellers jersey next, even if I have to special order it.
SkinsASchamps
10-02-2006, 10:50 PM
I tell you what, when the cameras were off and the goalline/extra point was over. The whole team came off the field, except Sellers. He was walking right down the middle of the field, waving his arms to keep everyone in the game. He did that constantly during the game. It was great seeing that excitement that only Marcus Washington can come close too. I think I am getting a Sellers jersey next, even if I have to special order it.
Haha I noticed this too. Why doesnt he ever go to the huddle? Is his job really as simple as blowing everything up and crushing someone? Sellars didnt care what the coaches said. He was out there making the crowd go wild. It was cool but I wonder why he wasnt in the huddle.
BurgundyNGold
10-02-2006, 10:54 PM
Nice post, shally. And, no, you are not the only one to see a little bit of B Mitch in Rock. Not just on the returns, but he's becoming quite the little punk too, lol. Right after the TD to Moss in OT there is about a half second shot of him getting in the face of a Jags player to apparently talk some smack. Little punk. :)
helimech24
10-02-2006, 11:00 PM
Haha I noticed this too. Why doesnt he ever go to the huddle? Is his job really as simple as blowing everything up and crushing someone? Sellars didnt care what the coaches said. He was out there making the crowd go wild. It was cool but I wonder why he wasnt in the huddle.Maybe because he knows his job, the coaches trust him, and he needs to stay angury in order to take a couple of people's heads off.
shally
10-02-2006, 11:00 PM
Haha I noticed this too. Why doesnt he ever go to the huddle? Is his job really as simple as blowing everything up and crushing someone? Sellars didnt care what the coaches said. He was out there making the crowd go wild. It was cool but I wonder why he wasnt in the huddle.
he HAS to have a hole to blow up because portis has to know where he is going ? that is my point.. i think he is more disciplined now than we give him credit for. no way gibbs lets him on the field if he is not where he is supposed to be on every play, including special teams...
i just love the way he lives to hit.. got to say, if i am buying a jersey this year, it is sellers from what i have seen thus far.. \
and i just cannot wait to see the first time he runs over LLH next week...
helimech24
10-02-2006, 11:01 PM
Nice post, shally. And, no, you are not the only one to see a little bit of B Mitch in Rock. Not just on the returns, but he's becoming quite the little punk too, lol. Right after the TD to Moss in OT there is about a half second shot of him getting in the face of a Jags player to apparently talk some smack. Little punk. :)At least he didn't knock a defenseless players helmet off and stomp on his head. What a maniac that guy is. He should be banned for that crap!!
shally
10-02-2006, 11:11 PM
At least he didn't knock a defenseless players helmet off and stomp on his head. What a maniac that guy is. He should be banned for that crap!!
i think there is a world of difference between blowing someone up cleanly, looking them in the eyes and running right over them despite their efforts.. to stomping on someone who is down.. that is just being a punk and it has no place on the field
helimech24
10-02-2006, 11:13 PM
i think there is a world of difference between blowing someone up cleanly, looking them in the eyes and running right over them despite their efforts.. to stomping on someone who is down.. that is just being a punk and it has no place on the fieldabsolutely. Trash talking is one thing, but that was just wrong.
firehawk157
10-03-2006, 12:01 AM
i think there is a world of difference between blowing someone up cleanly, looking them in the eyes and running right over them despite their efforts.. to stomping on someone who is down.. that is just being a punk and it has no place on the field
I don't think anyone confuses Sellers brand of nasty, hard-hitting football with that scoundrel. One is focusing your energy and unleashing it on a poor defender during the game and showing them whos boss because you are physically dominant, the other is a cowardly shot on a player who fell down and can't defend themselves way after the play is over. It's just spineless and thank god he's suspended. But only 5 games, should be the whole season
bgforever
10-03-2006, 12:11 AM
Just my two cents. NICE POST! Good points and obs.
shally
10-03-2006, 12:16 AM
Just my two cents. NICE POST! Good points and obs.
thanks for yur kindness..
and to firehawk, i think it was his total remorse that saved him..
HailVictory
10-03-2006, 06:49 AM
Nice Post. I know your were especially happy with our interior line play, blowing people off the LOS. Holdman has been solid in run support, so I don't see Rocky in those packages. Where I hope to see Rocky 1st is in coverage. We have been getting burned by TE's and backs over the middle consistently, and I'm wondering if Rocky's coverage skills are a strong point in his game. I remember GW saying he gets of blockers well and after the QB, and I'm thinking, does that mean he doesn't cover well? It is only worth bringing him in if he can upgrade the position now. IMHO.
RoanokeSkin
10-03-2006, 07:13 AM
lloyd? he had 6 if brunell had put the ball accurately. but, you got to put the ball away when you catch it..
I am telling you that this ball was not overthrown. Watch the tape, you will see Brandon slow down on his route. Brunell threw that to a spot where he could have made a play if he was going full speed.
And yes, that is his 1 fumble allowed for the year...
smoak
10-03-2006, 07:27 AM
I am telling you that this ball was not overthrown. Watch the tape, you will see Brandon slow down on his route. Brunell threw that to a spot where he could have made a play if he was going full speed.
And yes, that is his 1 fumble allowed for the year...
Don't tell me that. I am trying not to despise Lloyd and he isn't making it easy on me. I really hope he and ARE make some plays this week b/c I think the Giants #1 key is to stop Moss.
BigPlayJay
10-03-2006, 07:44 AM
well, is it me, or is rock starting to remind me more and more of b mitch running those kickoffs back..? he has figured it out that the only way to go is straight up the gut.. and being as short as he is actually plays to his advantage because i do not think the defenders see him until he is past the wedge. 30 yards per pop is just fine with me.. just hold onto that pumpkin, please...
Brian Mitchell himself pointed out on the Comcast postgame show that the trade for Duckett seems to have been effective in motivating Cartwright and Betts. I have to agree with him. Rock is retuning kicks like a man with something to prove, I love it!
smoot
10-03-2006, 07:58 AM
Don't tell me that. I am trying not to despise Lloyd and he isn't making it easy on me. I really hope he and ARE make some plays this week b/c I think the Giants #1 key is to stop Moss.
didnt work out so well for them last year :lol1:
RoanokeSkin
10-03-2006, 08:00 AM
Don't tell me that. I am trying not to despise Lloyd and he isn't making it easy on me. I really hope he and ARE make some plays this week b/c I think the Giants #1 key is to stop Moss.
I watched it about 5 times over on the DVR, and I thought it was pretty clear he slowed up mid route. I think he is a little suspect in route running when he is not the Primary receiver on a given play. For instance he looked great on the pump fake and throw by Brunell, but on that corner route I think he was a secondary receiver who wasnt expecting the ball.
shally
10-03-2006, 09:12 AM
didnt work out so well for them last year :lol1:
they do not have defensive backs who are quick enough to stay with moss.. madison is no different
skinfanjon
10-03-2006, 09:56 AM
I watched it about 5 times over on the DVR, and I thought it was pretty clear he slowed up mid route. I think he is a little suspect in route running when he is not the Primary receiver on a given play. For instance he looked great on the pump fake and throw by Brunell, but on that corner route I think he was a secondary receiver who wasnt expecting the ball.
I was at the game and it was obvious he could have made the play. I sit in the upper end zone and the play was coming right at me. It seemed to me he turned inside first, cut his route almost into a post route, and Brunell was expecting a fly pattern. Im not sure if he lost his bearings when he looked for the ball or if he thought it was supposed to break inside near the goalline, but he did not play the ball well at all. There were a few Brunell bashers around me that I quickly silenced with that observation and eventually they agreed with me.
skinfanjon
10-03-2006, 09:58 AM
Don't tell me that. I am trying not to despise Lloyd and he isn't making it easy on me. I really hope he and ARE make some plays this week b/c I think the Giants #1 key is to stop Moss.
I think given time we'll see the dividends of acquiring Lloyd. I know what you mean though, he certainly isn't worth what we gave up for him at this point. I was happy for him when he made the one big catch though, you could tell how much it meant to him by his reaction while heading back to the sidelines.
MONK_in_HOF
10-03-2006, 10:08 AM
I think given time we'll see the dividends of acquiring Lloyd. I know what you mean though, he certainly isn't worth what we gave up for him at this point. I was happy for him when he made the one big catch though, you could tell how much it meant to him by his reaction while heading back to the sidelines.
I am with you and hope to see big things out of Lloyd. I think I am extra critical of him due to what we gave up for him. To this point he hasn't impressed me and appears a bit soft IMO.
The Skinsinator
10-03-2006, 10:12 AM
Rock is retuning kicks like a man with something to prove, I love it!I agree. Rock's returns thus far have been really good especially the biggie in Dallas. He has nicely given us pretty good field position so far. Overall the entire special teams has been a plenty a pleasant surprise and needs to continue.
shally
10-03-2006, 10:23 AM
I am with you and hope to see big things out of Lloyd. I think I am extra critical of him due to what we gave up for him. To this point he hasn't impressed me and appears a bit soft IMO.
he was wide open for a TD but brunell missed him badly.. he can get open for certain
smoot
10-03-2006, 11:35 AM
he was wide open for a TD but brunell missed him badly.. he can get open for certain
actually, im rewatching the game right now and after watching it a couple times, it appears simply that lloyd was looking for the ball on his inside shoulder as brunell threw it to the outside shoulder. i'm thinking it was a simple miscommunication
helimech24
10-03-2006, 11:45 AM
actually, im rewatching the game right now and after watching it a couple times, it appears simply that lloyd was looking for the ball on his inside shoulder as brunell threw it to the outside shoulder. i'm thinking it was a simple miscommunicationGotta love growing pains. But I have to say that there were like 8-12 plays that Lloyd was wide open and Brunell looked Moss's and Cooley's way first or the whole time.
smoot
10-03-2006, 12:20 PM
Gotta love growing pains. But I have to say that there were like 8-12 plays that Lloyd was wide open and Brunell looked Moss's and Cooley's way first or the whole time.
definitely agreed there, seems to be a little bit of the patten symptom. he just needs to develop a rapport with brunell and more balls will come his way.
shally
10-03-2006, 12:24 PM
definitely agreed there, seems to be a little bit of the patten symptom. he just needs to develop a rapport with brunell and more balls will come his way.
i always thought it was patten's lack of size that kept brunell from finding him.. maybe it is something else? comfort level ? trust ?
for certain. llloyd needs to get the ball thrown his way more often..
helimech24
10-03-2006, 12:31 PM
i always thought it was patten's lack of size that kept brunell from finding him.. maybe it is something else? comfort level ? trust ?
for certain. llloyd needs to get the ball thrown his way more often..I would think it was both, but if I remember right, Brunell and Patten blew up the Preseason last year and then couldn't find each other during the regular season.
HailVictory
10-03-2006, 12:36 PM
Gotta love growing pains. But I have to say that there were like 8-12 plays that Lloyd was wide open and Brunell looked Moss's and Cooley's way first or the whole time.
I saw the same thing reviewing the game. What I like has been his body language. He always congratulates his teammates profusely (BS call with CP)and helps guys our up after the play. He was out in the community getting air time early on and saying all the right things. I have also been pleasantly surprised with his down field blocking, and admire how he hasn't griped about not getting as may balls as he's accustom to. Be a good teammate first, then good things will happen.
helimech24
10-03-2006, 02:15 PM
I saw the same thing reviewing the game. What I like has been his body language. He always congratulates his teammates profusely (BS call with CP)and helps guys our up after the play. He was out in the community getting air time early on and saying all the right things. I have also been pleasantly surprised with his down field blocking, and admire how he hasn't griped about not getting as may balls as he's accustom to. Be a good teammate first, then good things will happen.
Well said.
MONK_in_HOF
10-03-2006, 03:06 PM
Gotta love growing pains. But I have to say that there were like 8-12 plays that Lloyd was wide open and Brunell looked Moss's and Cooley's way first or the whole time.
Was he on the opposite side of the field when he was open?
shally
10-03-2006, 03:10 PM
Was he on the opposite side of the field when he was open?
i think that might be it.. if lloyd is on the right side while brunell is rolliong left, he will never see the ball
MONK_in_HOF
10-03-2006, 03:12 PM
i think that might be it.. if lloyd is on the right side while brunell is rolliong left, he will never see the ball
With all the weapons there is a good chance he is routinely the 3rd of 4th option in Brunell's progression. I will have to take note of where the WR are lining up when I watch the game again.
shally
10-03-2006, 03:16 PM
With all the weapons there is a good chance he is routinely the 3rd of 4th option in Brunell's progression. I will have to take note of where the WR are lining up when I watch the game again.
they run so many crossing routes that even that is confusing
shally
10-03-2006, 03:16 PM
With all the weapons there is a good chance he is routinely the 3rd of 4th option in Brunell's progression. I will have to take note of where the WR are lining up when I watch the game again.
they run so many crossing routes that even that is confusing
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