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skinsfan36

10-08-2006, 08:37 PM

akhhorus

10-08-2006, 08:40 PM

hail2skins

10-08-2006, 08:51 PM

Arch led the team in tackles today. Sean had a day IMO.

bgforever

10-08-2006, 08:55 PM

Arch led the team in tackles today. Sean had a day IMO.

So how effective were Archuletta's tackles? Was it like chasing plays, other than the one he had at the line of scrimmage?

Also what was with Carter? What did he do except a couple of pressures, at 3.5 million bucks a pressure? :) (ok, I'm exaggerating here, but I needed a voodoo doll to stick a pin in, but didn't find one)

ryflan47

10-08-2006, 08:55 PM

Arch just needs to improve in pass coverage. He's awesome with run support.

hail2skins

10-08-2006, 08:57 PM

Arch just needs to improve in pass coverage. He's awesome with run support.He's learning a whole new system and one that might not fit his skills. He came from a 2-deep system.

bgforever

10-08-2006, 08:58 PM

Arch just needs to improve in pass coverage. He's awesome with run support.
if he hasn't improved by now and the SPECIAL time in Arizona, he won't for the rest of the year. He's awkward in coverage and we're stuck with it.

CarMike

10-08-2006, 09:00 PM

bgforever

10-08-2006, 09:04 PM

Arch played well today.

Here's an idea. Why don't we draft a quick DE in next years draft? I'm growing tired of signing players who had a good previous year.

How i'd love for the Redskins to have someone like Sean Merriman.

DE is definitely a NOW thing, since Daniels has proven still an overspend and Wynn's pretty much fading fast, with NO upside from either.

That's not just an idea, that should be a plan! As for Archuletta, we can make him a rover or unfortunately watch another player fade off the team like Daniels or even trade for a player at LB as depth with Rocky. Ok, I am overdoing it now.

chicago_skinz_fan

10-08-2006, 09:09 PM

I keep saying this but i really believe having springs back will benefit Arch the most.

SpicyMcHaggis

10-08-2006, 09:14 PM

But while we wait for our healthy players to learn the new system and for our injured ones to come back (since obviously we were completely unprepared to handle these injuries), we are losing games...if not for the offense, we would be 1-4 right now.

skinsfan36

10-08-2006, 09:17 PM

If we don't get Clements we should definitely look at Astane Samuels or somebody in that price range.

akhhorus

10-08-2006, 09:24 PM

If we don't get Clements we should definitely look at Astane Samuels or somebody in that price range.

Lets worry about this year. And then worry about next year in march.

akhhorus

10-08-2006, 09:27 PM

I keep saying this but i really believe having springs back will benefit Arch the most.

Absolutely. It means arch can play up like he's supposed to.

DE is definitely a NOW thing, since Daniels has proven still an overspend and Wynn's pretty much fading fast, with NO upside from either.

That's not just an idea, that should be a plan! As for Archuletta, we can make him a rover or unfortunately watch another player fade off the team like Daniels or even trade for a player at LB as depth with Rocky. Ok, I am overdoing it now.

Daniels was cheap. About 15-17 million over 5 years. The Eagles have basically gotten the same production from Kearse at nearly 70 million. Wynn is a run stopper, always has been. Carter is a keeper, but they need a real speed guy on the other side of him.

bgforever

10-08-2006, 09:30 PM

Absolutely. It means arch can play up like he's supposed to.

Daniels was cheap. About 15-17 million over 5 years. The Eagles have basically gotten the same production from Kearse at nearly 70 million. Wynn is a run stopper, always has been. Carter is a keeper, but they need a real speed guy on the other side of him.

Thanks on the facts of this. Oh to have speed.

LadyNRedskinsfan

10-08-2006, 09:39 PM

Lets worry about this year. And then worry about next year in march.
thank you! as bleak as the outlook may look to most, there is still 3 quarters of a season left. i refuse to discuss the offseason until this season is over.

Biggie

10-08-2006, 09:40 PM

Carter's been better lately. I've been noticing him get some pressure. Arch has been good in the box too. However, if he has to play coverage, there's just nothing he can do.

akhhorus

10-08-2006, 09:41 PM

Thanks on the facts of this. Oh to have speed.

Oh to have relaxation in the fan base.

PennSkinsFan

10-08-2006, 09:42 PM

OCSKINSFAN

10-08-2006, 09:44 PM

Lets worry about this year. And then worry about next year in march.

I strongly agree with that. Ideas for discussion for improvements now (other than just playing better and with more intensity)? How about starting Golston instead of Salavea (or as a minimum, using him on obvious passing downs). He's already a better pass rusher and has upside (note - there are a lot of complaints about Carter, and I think well deserved, but none of the D-line has applied any pass rush, not even Griffin). Second, how about using Rumph at safety instead of Arch on passing downs (use Jimoh as nickel back until Springs returns)? I also think we need to work on disguising our blitzes. They are almost always well picked up.

Biggie

10-08-2006, 09:45 PM

Oh to have relaxation in the fan base.

We are fans of the Washington Redskins. Relaxation is not in our vocabulary.

bgforever

10-08-2006, 09:48 PM

I strongly agree with that. Ideas for discussion for improvements now (other than just playing better and with more intensity)? How about starting Golston instead of Salavea (or as a minimum, using him on obvious passing downs). He's already a better pass rusher and has upside (note - there are a lot of complaints about Carter, and I think well deserved, but none of the D-line has applied any pass rush, not even Griffin). Second, how about using Rumph at safety instead of Arch on passing downs (use Jimoh as nickel back until Springs returns)? I also think we need to work on disguising our blitzes. They are almost always well picked up.

I don't think Griff's full strength yet and since it was Salave'a' s first full game back, he should be much better next game, and yes - getting Golston more reps is can only be a positive.

Dept_of_Defense

10-08-2006, 09:50 PM

Arch will be a better player when Springs is in the lineup. Don't give up on Arch yet. By the way, don't forget your boy Taylor. he got burned AGAIN. Before we gang up on certain players, Taylor is not having the best year in pass coverage either.
If you would've told me @ the beginning of the year that Phillip Daniels would lead the team in interceptions by Week 5, I probably would've thrown up. The secondary is without a doubt our achilles heel. Our tackling today was pretty atrocious and our pass coverage was once again sub-par. I love how Carlos can come up so quickly on those dump offs to the outside, but the man should have 3 picks already this year! Another one slipped through his hands today! All of this needs to be turned around with or without Springs. Jerry Gray needs to go back to the basics with all our DB's.

bgforever

10-08-2006, 09:50 PM

We are fans of the Washington Redskins. Relaxation is not in our vocabulary.
:lol1: We are known for incredable feats insteadi of relaxing you're suggesting? , among other things, like using our forheads to practice the martial ats :banghead:

shally

10-08-2006, 09:52 PM

Arch will be a better player when Springs is in the lineup. Don't give up on Arch yet. By the way, don't forget your boy Taylor. he got burned AGAIN. Before we gang up on certain players, Taylor is not having the best year in pass coverage either.

arch lead the team in tackles today.. he gets 9... but he cant cover anyone..
we are paying a 4, 4, 3 in essence.. that is what we have here

nicefellow31

10-08-2006, 10:04 PM

ok so we gave big money to two guys who are not earning it. so what do you guys think we will do or could do if these guys continue to do nothing. i mean my solution would be this:

1)next year sign p2 to an extension give him starting job
2)let mcintosh start and see if hes better against the run than holdman(looks like a great athlete)
3)sign clements so we can draft a PASS RUSHER which we hope for every year and it never happens its like a kid waiting for an xbox for xmas and getting a raincoat instead

You are so right about quote #3. We have been searching your at least a dozen years for a pass rusher. A pass rushing DE is like a great left handed pitcher. If you find one, spare no expense to sign him. Jeez I miss Dexter Manley and Charles Mann. Heck even Coy Bacon.

LATrueRedskin

10-08-2006, 10:16 PM

I keep saying this but i really believe having springs back will benefit Arch the most.

It will. It'll allow Adam to play his game and be more effective in our scheme.

PennSkinsFan

10-08-2006, 10:28 PM

santanadasavior

10-08-2006, 10:36 PM

I think we are all being a little too dramatic right now. There have been improvements made, and guess what, they have only played 5 games in the system. I don't expect them to be amazing yet. I don't think too many first year players are making that same impact for their teams right now. We need to all relax.

skins4oreva

10-08-2006, 10:38 PM

I'm sorry but i refuse to believe that SS makes that much of a difference. Fine we will blitz more but hes not going to cover everyone. Hes not going to be covering Carlos Rogers man. Just watching Clark play today just makes me mad because hes playing great in coverage, and just think that we could have gotten him for half the money we signed arch.

Skins57

10-08-2006, 11:05 PM

I also agree that (even though I will likely be wrong) Springs will improve our pass D alot just allows other players to fall back into thier duties

redskin_rich

10-08-2006, 11:13 PM

Arch played well today.

Here's an idea. Why don't we draft a quick DE in next years draft? I'm growing tired of signing players who had a good previous year.

How i'd love for the Redskins to have someone like Sean Merriman.
I'm with you Mike. We need to be able to put pressure on the QB, PERIOD. There are no shut down Corners anymore and any QB will beat you if he has 5-6 seconds to sit in the pocket.
I think Carter is fine but we have no one else without bringing a blitz.

Arch is getting way too much criticism, probably because of his paycheck. He is not the problem.

smoak

10-09-2006, 01:25 AM

I'm going to take heat for this, but I am dead serious. Did we structure the Lloyd, Carter , and Arch contracts so they could be cut after year 1 if need be?

BurgundyNGold

10-09-2006, 01:30 AM

I'm going to take heat for this, but I am dead serious. Did we structure the Lloyd, Carter , and Arch contracts so they could be cut after year 1 if need be?
Sure, they can be cut. But then their signing bonuses will be accelerated onto next years' cap. That might be doable for one guy, but not all of them.

smoak

10-09-2006, 01:33 AM

Sure, they can be cut. But then their signing bonuses will be accelerated onto next years' cap. That might be doable for one guy, but not all of them.

If they are tiered bonuses spread over several years then they aren't accelerated, right? Akh and I talked about this b/c I never really cared for Brandon Lloyd.

firehawk157

10-09-2006, 01:36 AM

thank you! as bleak as the outlook may look to most, there is still 3 quarters of a season left. i refuse to discuss the offseason until this season is over.

Precisely!!! In the infamous words of becky, why are we worrying about next season. Let's get behind our team because we are far from done!

BurgundyNGold

10-09-2006, 01:37 AM

If they are tiered bonuses spread over several years then they aren't accelerated, right? Akh and I talked about this b/c I never really cared for Brandon Lloyd.
I don't think so. This is all hyptothetical, of course, but I think the whole bonus gets accelerated.

BurgundyNGold

10-09-2006, 01:40 AM

Arch played well today.

Here's an idea. Why don't we draft a quick DE in next years draft? I'm growing tired of signing players who had a good previous year.

How i'd love for the Redskins to have someone like Sean Merriman.
Please don't remind me. He was on the board when we picked Rogers. Akh will tell you that he is too small to play DE in a 4-3, but I see that the guy is a beast and tend to give weight to the fact that he's a proven bad***.

redskin_rich

10-09-2006, 01:44 AM

I'm going to take heat for this, but I am dead serious. Did we structure the Lloyd, Carter , and Arch contracts so they could be cut after year 1 if need be?
Smoak, I usually look to you as a pillar of sanity but I think you are going off the deep end here. None of them that you named are directly or indirectly to blame for our struggles. I think you need to look to the coaches, for starters and then to some of our leaders on the field.
I tink it is time to make the change at QB. As I stated earlier, I'm not blaming Brunell but I don't think we can reach our goal with his limitations. Our team is not good enough to win with a game manager, we need a playmaker.

smoak

10-09-2006, 01:47 AM

Smoak, I usually look to you as a pillar of sanity but I think you are going off the deep end here. None of them that you named are directly or indirectly to blame for our struggles. I think you need to look to the coaches, for starters and then to some of our leaders on the field.
I tink it is time to make the change at QB. As I stated earlier, I'm not blaming Brunell but I don't think we can reach our goal with his limitations. Our team is not good enough to win with a game manager, we need a playmaker.

I didn't say I'd cut all three, but I am curious b/c IMO all three have been horrible. Arch gets wiped out of a play on just the simplest block. The whole team looked flat. I don't get it. My list of guys I'd like to get rid of is actually much longer, but I'll save it for another day.

redskin_rich

10-09-2006, 01:51 AM

shally

10-09-2006, 02:00 AM

Smoak, I usually look to you as a pillar of sanity but I think you are going off the deep end here. None of them that you named are directly or indirectly to blame for our struggles. I think you need to look to the coaches, for starters and then to some of our leaders on the field.
I tink it is time to make the change at QB. As I stated earlier, I'm not blaming Brunell but I don't think we can reach our goal with his limitations. Our team is not good enough to win with a game manager, we need a playmaker.

tell me who we have as a playmaker on defense ?

taylor ?
washington??

nobody is a playmaker on defense this year.. and that is a major surce of the problem on that side of the ball

LATrueRedskin

10-09-2006, 02:04 AM

I didn't say I'd cut all three, but I am curious b/c IMO all three have been horrible. Arch gets wiped out of a play on just the simplest block. The whole team looked flat. I don't get it. My list of guys I'd like to get rid of is actually much longer, but I'll save it for another day.

Can't blame the new additions, smoak. Yeah, they've been horrible for the most part, but like Rich said, the problems start from the top.

Coach Gibbs and the staff have been overly conservative IMO with everything from the playcalling to the roster moves. I was fine with it for the first quarter of the season, but now it's time to open things up and get agressive with what we're doing.

We're not going to win many games opting for a field goal on 4th-and-1 when we're down 16-3. We're not going to stop many offenses just sitting back in coverage hoping to cover. And we're not going to win any games with sluggish blocking on offense. It's time to get after people.

shally

10-09-2006, 02:06 AM

Well, we are stuck with what we got. My opinion is we need to look to the future now. The dream of riding some of these vets to the promised land is not to be. Let's move on now and see what we have.
I am officially on the Jason Campbell to start bandwagon.

what you say has a lot of merit because every game campbell does not play this year, retards his development.. if he is half the qb gibbs thinks he can be, then riding brunell with all his limitations only puts off finding out what campbell can do.
i think that we are an 8-8 team with brunell.. maybe with campbell we are 7-9, or 6-10.. what difference does it make in that case. do people really see this team going 10-6 or better with brunell ? any team that can mount a pass rush on him is going to end up restricting our offensive output to the level we saw against dallas, or minny or the giants.. that is the common denominator. pressure consistently on brunell.
what about jax, you say ? well, can we count on that type of offensive line effort week in and week out ? that does not appear to be the case..
campbell at least has young legs and a live arm..

put him in...

redskin_rich

10-09-2006, 02:09 AM

tell me who we have as a playmaker on defense ?

taylor ?
washington??

nobody is a playmaker on defense this year.. and that is a major surce of the problem on that side of the ball
You are missing my point. I don't think we have the team to contend for the title this year. I think it is time to move on and play Jason Campbell. That won't help our defense but JC needs to get his playing time in. This is not our year, we would need a lot of luck just to win our division and I don't think 2nd place in the NFC East will even make the playoffs.

BurgundyNGold

10-09-2006, 02:12 AM

shally

10-09-2006, 02:20 AM

Outside of Portis and Moss, I'm not pleased with the play across the board, but that does not mean I'm throwing in the towel on the season. I still think it's too soon for [Campbell] to start. Check back with me after the Dallass game.

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we are treading water here.. we can win the titan game with campbell.. we will lose the indy game with either brunell or campbell..
i do not think we can beat dallas with brunell the way the o line is playing.
with a heavy heavy dose of portis and a total committment to the run i think we can beat dallas.. right now, philly on the road looks like a loss, either way..
my point is that we look to be 7-9, 8-8, 9-7 with either qb.. why not get campbell ready finally? if he gets hot, maybe we run the last 3-4 games and sneak to 10-6?

redskin_rich

10-09-2006, 02:21 AM

Outside of Portis and Moss, I'm not pleased with the play across the board, but that does not mean I'm throwing in the towel on the season. I still think it's too soon for Camblee to start. Check back with me after the Dallass game.
Here is the way I see it. We are 2-3. We will be 3-3 after next week. Then we will be 3-4, after Indy. We beat Dallas and we are 4-4. We then have to go 6-2 the rest of the season to have a shot at the playoffs. It is definitely possible but I just don't think we are good enough to do it. If we do and sneak into the playoffs, can we beat a team like Chicago?
I would rather get started with the future than possibly squeak into the playoffs.

shally

10-09-2006, 02:26 AM

Here is the way I see it. We are 2-3. We will be 3-3 after next week. Then we will be 3-4, after Indy. We beat Dallas and we are 4-4. We then have to go 6-2 the rest of the season to have a shot at the playoffs. It is definitely possible but I just don't think we are good enough to do it. If we do and sneak into the playoffs, can we beat a team like Chicago?
I would rather get started with the future than possibly squeak into the playoffs.

agree.. we are out of sync as a team now.. they need a cause to rally around.. campbell would be it.. brunell cannot get the ball to all those expensive playmakers we got him.. go with campbell

Dept_of_Defense

10-09-2006, 03:12 AM

Wow, things are starting to heat up........

vabeach_skinsfan

10-09-2006, 09:21 AM

agree.. we are out of sync as a team now.. they need a cause to rally around.. campbell would be it.. brunell cannot get the ball to all those expensive playmakers we got him.. go with campbell

I don't think Brunell was the main culprit of this lose. He didn't perform like he did the past two weeks, but he definitley didn't lose us the game.

Once we got behind two scores, we turned 1 dimensional. And only a few teams in the league can be successful when there obvious passing plays. And our O line couldn't handle the pressure agaisnt their front 4, giving Mark very little time to throw.

MONK_in_HOF

10-09-2006, 09:30 AM

If they are tiered bonuses spread over several years then they aren't accelerated, right? Akh and I talked about this b/c I never really cared for Brandon Lloyd.

While Carter and Arch are taking a lot of heat around here why is this guy getting a pass? I mean we signed this guy for big money AND traded 2 picks for him. He has had 2 good downfield blocks, so what. Part of his job IMO. Aside from that he is good for maybe 1 catch a game and had a fumble that could have cost us the win last week. Why isn't he getting the criticism that Arch and Carter are?

hail2skins

10-09-2006, 09:35 AM

agree.. we are out of sync as a team now.. they need a cause to rally around.. campbell would be it.. brunell cannot get the ball to all those expensive playmakers we got him.. go with campbellHow is Campbell going to rally the team by starting? If anything it'll probably signal to the players that we are throwing in the towel on this season. Too early to do that IMO.

jtovb2005

10-09-2006, 09:45 AM

Gibbs will not sit Brunell period! I don't know why we keep going on about that. After 2 30 point games how can you say Brunell can't get the ball to the big play guys? He did in those. We went through this last year too.

There are other bigger problems than Brunell to wory about: Consistent offensive line play and a defense that can actually get a few 3 and outs on the other team to start with.

MONK_in_HOF

10-09-2006, 09:51 AM

You are missing my point. I don't think we have the team to contend for the title this year. I think it is time to move on and play Jason Campbell. That won't help our defense but JC needs to get his playing time in. This is not our year, we would need a lot of luck just to win our division and I don't think 2nd place in the NFC East will even make the playoffs.

That is kind of the feeling I am getting too. The one thought that keeps me from thinking JC needs to start now is that Gibbs teams are usually much better in the cold weather months. Match that with a schedule that is easier in the 2nd half and that gives me hope for another run based on smashmouth football. But if our D can't improve and the Skins continue to play to their opponents level then I can't see the playoffs happening.

On the other hand, if we are going to be mediocre w/ Brunell, then why not start building towards the future, which Brunell clearly isn't a part of? I am not blaming Brunell for our mediocrity, rather suggesting if our whole team is going to play this inconsistently, or mediocre if you will, then why not let our future QB get some experience?

If our acquisitions struggles are still attributed to learning a new system, as is widely suggested, then why not let Campbell be part of that learning process? Instead of being a mediocre team, no matter who is the QB, and then inserting JC next season and hoping he has learned from watching. I think that ruins 2 seasons, and that isn't good for a FO that is operating in a win now mode.

Hr fan

10-09-2006, 09:59 AM

Forget Clements. He wants Champ Bailey money(and probably deserves something close to it). I think Carter can be effective(and has been at times), but they need a real speed rusher on the other side. Daniels is looking creaky at the other end spot. Prioleau is not the answer at SS, he's not that good in coverage and just doesn't solve the problem. I do agree that McIntosh should start, but how exactly does he fix the CB problem now?

How much of Rogers cushion is the relatively weaker play of Carter/Holdman against the run? Carlos makes a lot of run tackles for a CB that is supposed to be on an island. If Rogers could belly up to the receiver and run with him, or at least reduce the cushion by 5 yds, it would help. Right now I would love to see an experiment with Wynn and McIntosh. I think it would be dramatically better against the run, which is where GWs D starts.

SpicyMcHaggis

10-09-2006, 10:09 AM

While Carter and Arch are taking a lot of heat around here why is this guy getting a pass? I mean we signed this guy for big money AND traded 2 picks for him. He has had 2 good downfield blocks, so what. Part of his job IMO. Aside from that he is good for maybe 1 catch a game and had a fumble that could have cost us the win last week. Why isn't he getting the criticism that Arch and Carter are?
I could not agree more. For the season: 5 games, 6 catches, 1 fumble lost, at least one idiotic penalty (illegal motion for a receiver??!!), a couple of decent blocks. Very impressive...
But if you really wanna feel sick: http://www.blloyd.com/

Hr fan

10-09-2006, 10:15 AM

That is kind of the feeling I am getting too. The one thought that keeps me from thinking JC needs to start now is that Gibbs teams are usually much better in the cold weather months. Match that with a schedule that is easier in the 2nd half and that gives me hope for another run based on smashmouth football. But if our D can't improve and the Skins continue to play to their opponents level then I can't see the playoffs happening.

On the other hand, if we are going to be mediocre w/ Brunell, then why not start building towards the future, which Brunell clearly isn't a part of? I am not blaming Brunell for our mediocrity, rather suggesting if our whole team is going to play this inconsistently, or mediocre if you will, then why not let our future QB get some experience?

If our acquisitions struggles are still attributed to learning a new system, as is widely suggested, then why not let Campbell be part of that learning process? Instead of being a mediocre team, no matter who is the QB, and then inserting JC next season and hoping he has learned from watching. I think that ruins 2 seasons, and that isn't good for a FO that is operating in a win now mode.

I agree on starting Campbell, but also sympathize with the 'Skins dilemma. Jansen is 30+ (and showing it), Thomas and Samuels are nearly 30, leaving us with Dockery (a FA at years end and no lock to stay at a reasonable price) and Rabach younger, but we could be down to Rabach only starting next year. The backups are dreadful - probably couldn't make another team. One injury or loss and down comes the house of cards. We're ok at skill positions except for QB. We have a young backup, but again are 1 deep in terms of experience.

The D is somewhat similar. Look at what the loss of Springs has done, and he will be 33 and is injury prone throught his career. Wynn, Daniels and Salave'a are 30+ and Griffin nearly so. Carter has been, charitably, less than hoped. Holdman and Posey are 30+ and showing it.

On age alone, assuming Campbell is not the next Rothlesburger, the maturation process to a playoff level will mean not just abondining this year but many to come. We can't replace by FA because of lack of salary cap and spending cash on elderly veterans on our team to get cap room is self defeating - you get both the player and his replacement but are strapped with dead money effectively. Don't remind me of the draft. The first draft with a full 7 players as of this time is 2008. Add 2 years for seasoning to the ages of the existing roster and you can see why it is all or nothing right now.

openallnight

10-09-2006, 10:21 AM

tell me who we have as a playmaker on defense ?

taylor ?
washington??

nobody is a playmaker on defense this year.. and that is a major surce of the problem on that side of the ball

Washington appeared to have his worse game in a Redskin uniform yesterday. Was it just me or to he appear to be sick. I swear I saw him throw up on the field twice yesterday.

Taylor hits hard and that's about all he's doing well right now.

redskinz#1fan

10-09-2006, 10:24 AM

I also think we need to work on disguising our blitzes. They are almost always well picked up.

We've been blitzing? It seems to me that we've been sitting back in this cover 2 and getting our :moon1: handed to us on the underneath routes.

This is probably all I'm going to post on here for the next week, because things are too negative on here right now. Which is usually the case after a loss! I hate to see how some of you handle your problems outside of the Redskins, since ya'll can't seem to handle any down times! :rolleyes:

MONK_in_HOF

10-09-2006, 10:31 AM

The D is somewhat similar. Look at what the loss of Springs has done, and he will be 33 and is injury prone throught his career. Wynn, Daniels and Salave'a are 30+ and Griffin nearly so. Carter has been, charitably, less than hoped. Holdman and Posey are 30+ and showing it.

On age alone, assuming Campbell is not the next Rothlesburger, the maturation process to a playoff level will mean not just abondining this year but many to come. We can't replace by FA because of lack of salary cap and spending cash on elderly veterans on our team to get cap room is self defeating - you get both the player and his replacement but are strapped with dead money effectively. Don't remind me of the draft. The first draft with a full 7 players as of this time is 2008. Add 2 years for seasoning to the ages of the existing roster and you can see why it is all or nothing right now.

That is what concerns me. With so many players in, or nearing, the twilight of their careers and the lack of draft picks in the coming years, how do we replace these guys?
Will their be enough cap room made for quality replacements when they leave? We certainly won't have the option to find many plug ins via drafting.
I just fear this team went all out with a win now strategy and if it backfires that it could set the team back a while, ala 2000. But I am not a cap guy so I don't know the consequences of cutting some of these guys and how much dead money would come along with it. What I do know, is that we will never get our draft picks back, at least not as easily as we traded them away.

esmith1790

10-09-2006, 10:33 AM

How is Campbell going to rally the team by starting? If anything it'll probably signal to the players that we are throwing in the towel on this season. Too early to do that IMO.

Welcome to the boys problems....

jtovb2005

10-09-2006, 10:50 AM

Washington appeared to have his worse game in a Redskin uniform yesterday. Was it just me or to he appear to be sick. I swear I saw him throw up on the field twice yesterday.

Taylor hits hard and that's about all he's doing well right now.

I asked the same thing in the game thread yesterday. He was throwing up once that I saw. At least there was a lot of liqued stuff coming out :)

akhhorus

10-09-2006, 10:52 AM

How is Campbell going to rally the team by starting? If anything it'll probably signal to the players that we are throwing in the towel on this season. Too early to do that IMO.

If we lose the next two, 2-5 headed into the bye week, I think Campbell will start against Dallas afterwards. Its still WAY too early to consider this though.

Ibleedburgundy

10-09-2006, 11:23 AM

Carter seems to be non-existent in run defense.

SpicyMcHaggis

10-09-2006, 11:50 AM

Carter seems to be non-existent in run defense.
Swith "seems to be" with "is" and you got it right.

Apache

10-09-2006, 12:10 PM

Yeah but Taylor has not been that great in pass defense this year either. he is getting burned just as much. All I am saying is, if your going to hammer some of the seconday, be sure to hammer ALL of it, because it all has been horrendous, Taylor included.

Sad thing is that we're putting extra coverage in the secondary because of Springs absence and they are getting burned. The flip side of that though is that when you're not rushing up to par the QB can deliver the football because he has more time. I agree, Arch will be better when Springs returns but, I also see Springs needing more time to get back into it.