Wasn't the 3rd quarter Gibbs's best? [Archive]

SpicyMcHaggis

11-13-2006, 12:05 PM

From redskins.com: Third's not the charm (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=22101)

Only twice in his 12 seasons (1982, 1985) did the Redskins lose the scoring battle in third quarters.

Through nine games, the 3-6 Redskins have been outscored 60-17 in the third quarter. In the last five games, the Redskins have been outscored 53-0 in the third quarter

That is an incredible (negative) turnaround. Any thoughts on what it might be due to?

hail2skins

11-13-2006, 12:07 PM

We don't adjust anymore. You won't see it ever again as long as Saunders is calling the plays.

joethefan

11-13-2006, 12:07 PM

his love for Brunell.....don't know if he was in a love fest with QB's back in the day.

danny's stogie

11-13-2006, 12:07 PM

That is an incredible (negative) turnaround. Any thoughts on what it might be due to?

On game days Joes doesn't control anything besides the red flags.

redskin_rich

11-13-2006, 12:07 PM

From redskins.com: Third's not the charm (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=22101)

That is an incredible (negative) turnaround. Any thoughts on what it might be due to?
It would appear that we are getting outcoached. Our opponents are adjusting to our schemes and we are not making adjustments to counter. That would be my guess...

SpicyMcHaggis

11-13-2006, 12:08 PM

We don't adjust anymore. You won't see it ever again as long as Saunders is calling the plays.
So what are my options? Suicide?

SpicyMcHaggis

11-13-2006, 12:08 PM

On game days Joes doesn't control anything besides the red flags.
That's not a bad job for the money he is getting...

Axegrinder

11-13-2006, 12:09 PM

Poor coaching and the failure to make adjustments.
It was also reported that we're not doing very well in the 1st qtr. either.
There's no excuse for being flat and lacking intensity and discipline.

joethefan

11-13-2006, 12:09 PM

We don't adjust anymore. You won't see it ever again as long as Saunders is calling the plays. I think Gibbs will take it over next year...IMO. he tried it it didn't work ...move on.. I didn't say let saunder go, I said he needs to take over the play calling duties

skinfanjon

11-13-2006, 12:09 PM

From redskins.com: Third's not the charm (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=22101)

That is an incredible (negative) turnaround. Any thoughts on what it might be due to?

I think it speaks to our predictability more than anything else. Its like, teams show up after gamplanning against us all week, see us do exactly the same things in the first half that we've done all season, then simplify their gameplan at halftime and beat the crap out of us in the second half. We fail to make any real adjustment at the half, continue to do what we've done all season, then wonder why nothing seems to be working, throwing around phrases like "mystifying". If only we could get a peek at lockerroom during intermission, we might have some answers.

danny's stogie

11-13-2006, 12:10 PM

That's not a bad job for the money he is getting...

Yeah, I could do that and make 5 million a year, but alas, I don't have Gibbs' giggle.

SpicyMcHaggis

11-13-2006, 12:13 PM

Yeah, I could do that and make 5 million a year, but alas, I don't have Gibbs' giggle.
:lol1:

CarMike

11-13-2006, 12:13 PM

hail2skins

11-13-2006, 12:14 PM

On game days Joes doesn't control anything besides the red flags.Well, he should be dreaming about red flags and not the ones used for challenges.

SpicyMcHaggis

11-13-2006, 12:15 PM

Green-Is-Good

11-13-2006, 12:16 PM

I think the biggest difference between Gibbs 1.0 and Gibbs 2.0 is FA.

Think about it. Back then you didn't have players changing teams every year. You built a team and patched the weaknesses. Gibbs found his type of players and could build around those guys without worrying about them leaving the following year.

Different era and different type of players.

Continuity under Danny can't happen
I was under the impression that when Coach Gibbs came out of retirement, Danny surrendered control of the FA. But we still seem to be throwing money at every problem. Why is this? I say let Coach Gibbs make the calls.

bergiemoore

11-13-2006, 12:17 PM

Brunell gets tired.

Saunders doesn't adjust.

Williams doesn't adjust.

redskin_rich

11-13-2006, 12:17 PM

I think the biggest difference between Gibbs 1.0 and Gibbs 2.0 is FA.

Think about it. Back then you didn't have players changing teams every year. You built a team and patched the weaknesses. Gibbs found his type of players and could build around those guys without worrying about them leaving the following year.

Different era and different type of players.
Gibbs was always good at coaching whoever he had though. Remember 3 SB wins each with different QB's and RB's. He coached an unknown scab team to a 3-0 record including a win over a Dallas team with most of it's starters.

BurgundyNGold

11-13-2006, 12:18 PM

We don't adjust anymore. You won't see it ever again as long as Saunders is calling the plays.
I don't really recall much in the way of halftime adjustments in 2004 or 1005 either, really. I actually notice this last year. Gibbs 1.0 pioneered the concept of halftime adjustments, while Gibbs 2.0 seems to get victmized by them.

CarMike

11-13-2006, 12:19 PM

Continuity under Danny can't happen
I was under the impression that when Coach Gibbs came out of retirement, Danny surrendered control of the FA. But we still seem to be throwing money at every problem. Why is this? I say let Coach Gibbs make the calls.
Continuity can't happen in todays NFL.

My point was this. Back when Gibbs was in his first stint with Washington, he knew what he had in players ability since most had played with him for 4+ years. He knew what buttons to push with each player to reach their full potential. He was the master at making adjustments during halftime. He couldn't have just lost it over time. I think its about the players today versus the players of old.

SpicyMcHaggis

11-13-2006, 12:19 PM

I don't really recall much in the way of halftime adjustments in 2004 or 1005 either, really. I actually notice this last year. Gibbs 1.0 pioneered the concept of halftime adjustments, while Gibbs 2.0 seems to get victmized by them.
Yeah, 1005 was really a tough year for us...

Minnesota Mike

11-13-2006, 12:20 PM

Brunell gets tired.

Saunders doesn't adjust.

Williams doesn't adjust.

Brunell - He isn't that good in the 1st or 2nd Qtr either.

Saunders - I agree with that.

Williams - Probably would if he had more parts to plug in to make adjustments.

danny's stogie

11-13-2006, 12:22 PM

Yeah, 1005 was really a tough year for us...

Those darn vikings with their fake maps.

SpicyMcHaggis

11-13-2006, 12:23 PM

Those darn vikings with their fake maps.
Yeah..they have been haunting us for 1001 years..we couldn't handle them this year either...damn!

danny's stogie

11-13-2006, 12:26 PM

Yeah..they have been haunting us for 1001 years..we couldn't handle them this year either...damn!

Hey, wasn't it an Italian who made that bogus Viking map of North America?

SpicyMcHaggis

11-13-2006, 12:27 PM

Hey, wasn't it an Italian who made that bogus Viking map of North America?
It was Roberto!

danny's stogie

11-13-2006, 12:28 PM

It was Roberto!

Nice, he always cheers me up!

Axegrinder

11-13-2006, 12:28 PM

Stay on topic.

whistleandthumb

11-13-2006, 12:51 PM

When Gibbs used to call the plays, he was known for his half-time adjustements in the offensive gameplan. I can't tell you how many times during Gibbs v.1 we would go into the locker room down (and getting beat bad, too), and come out after the half and put on a major smackdown. That's what Gibbs was known for.

Now, with Al and Co. at the helm, our halftime adjustment seems to be "add more screen passes, particularly on 3rd and long."

BurgundyNGold

11-13-2006, 12:53 PM

Yeah, 1005 was really a tough year for us...
LMAO! Sorry, man. I've been typing like PSF lately because I have to use a Mac at home. I feel like I'm a participatant in the special olympics on this thing. It's like I'm being punished and this machine is about to find a wall. :banghead:

wide_awake

11-13-2006, 12:59 PM

Continuity under Danny can't happen
I was under the impression that when Coach Gibbs came out of retirement, Danny surrendered control of the FA. But we still seem to be throwing money at every problem. Why is this? I say let Coach Gibbs make the calls.

As much as I hate Danny (and I do with all my heart), Gibbs made the decision to pursue the FA acquisitions we obtained.

I'd imagine Gibbs got all excited at the thought of having an unlimited bank account to shop for players. Kind of like how Danny gets every year, except Gibbs will learn from it this year (hopefully).

Redskinfan28

11-13-2006, 02:35 PM

It would appear that we are getting outcoached. Our opponents are adjusting to our schemes and we are not making adjustments to counter. That would be my guess...

Yep. The coaching has been bad on both sides of the ball this year, which is shocking to me.

BurgundyNGold

11-13-2006, 07:53 PM

As much as I hate Danny (and I do with all my heart), Gibbs made the decision to pursue the FA acquisitions we obtained.

I'd imagine Gibbs got all excited at the thought of having an unlimited bank account to shop for players. Kind of like how Danny gets every year, except Gibbs will learn from it this year (hopefully).
I think is much more an executive than a coach this time around. I believe that he's just giving directives and letting his guys work. I blame the FO for the poor ratings of FA and draft selections.