mike martz like archuleta

[skinsfan36]

ive heard this on a few websites that martz could become arizonas next head coach and would be interested in having archuleta. thoughts?

[Biggie]

And he can have him! For the low, low price of Arizona's first rounder.

[smoak]

And he can have him! For the low, low price of Arizona's first rounder.

???

Depending on how this would impact the cap, I'd take a seventh rounder and a bag of practice balls.

But why is this not tampering? Or is this just assumptions made by media types??

[skinsfan36]

id take a 4th for him.he cost way 2 much against the cap

[skinfanjon]

Just take him, pay his salary, and he's yours. Unless of course, you want to give us Adrian Wilson. That would be sweet.

[Biggie]

???

Depending on how this would impact the cap, I'd take a seventh rounder and a bag of practice balls.

But why is this not tampering? Or is this just assumptions made by media types??

For the cap hit we'd take, a 7th would be absurd.

[BurgundyNGold]

This is why Martz only coaches offense and probably should never be a head coach again.

[smoak]

For the cap hit we'd take, a 7th would be absurd.

I am hoping the signing bonus was tiered in such a way that it wouldn't be a killer hit. Either way, I have not been impressed with AA at all.

[SkinsASchamps]

I want to keep Arch. He can play LB and be quite good at it.

[akhhorus]

I am hoping the signing bonus was tiered in such a way that it wouldn't be a killer hit. Either way, I have not been impressed with AA at all.

No, the hit will be 3-4 mil.

[Biggie]

No, the hit will be 3-4 mil.

Oh really? For that contract, that's pretty good.

[RedskinsDave]

I want to keep Arch. He can play LB and be quite good at it.

Just say no to drugs.

I will give them Archuletta and Duckett for a 7th rounder. I will then go play racquetball with my boss.

[Skinzlover223]

If they are offering anywhere from a 3rd to 5th round we woudl be fools not to take it. Then again when it comes to the offseason I suppose we are fools.

[danny's stogie]

Why would the Cards need another SS that can't cover? They already have Wilson. Secondly, I doubt Martz knows who Arch is, in fact, I doubt he knows a single player he's coached besides his ex-recievers and QBs.

[CNYSkinFan]

We can not afford a hit of 3-4 million. It is a close call year next year as it is and may require some restructuring. Plus if Brunell retires in frustration we could get a hit there as well.

Arch is here for 3 years, whether we like it or not, unless he gives back some of his SB ala Lavar, but this is not one of those situations.

[Biggie]

We can not afford a hit of 3-4 million. It is a close call year next year as it is and may require some restructuring. Plus if Brunell retires in frustration we could get a hit there as well.

Arch is here for 3 years, whether we like it or not, unless he gives back some of his SB ala Lavar, but this is not one of those situations.

So does Brunell retiring amount to us cutting him cap-wise?

[openallnight]

i think archeletta for a happy meal would be a fair deal.

[joethefan]

We can not afford a hit of 3-4 million. It is a close call year next year as it is and may require some restructuring. Plus if Brunell retires in frustration we could get a hit there as well.

Arch is here for 3 years, whether we like it or not, unless he gives back some of his SB ala Lavar, but this is not one of those situations.we're gonna have to afford something...do you continue to keep a guy that can't make it happen....these next two years financially are going to be hell for us...we are about to enter into something we have never experienced before..I'm here for the long haul..but I'm just getting prepared cause it's gonna be rough....

[SkinsASchamps]

Just say no to drugs.

I will give them Archuletta and Duckett for a 7th rounder. I will then go play racquetball with my boss.

Haha. Ok but if he comes around and does play LB you guys know where to find me. :) Good luck with racquetball.

[RedskinsDave]

Haha. Ok but if he comes around and does play LB you guys know where to find me. :) Good luck with racquetball.

Where have you ever seen a 6 foot, 220 pound LB?

[akhhorus]

Oh really? For that contract, that's pretty good.

24 of his 30 million in is base salary from 2009-2012. Give Gibbs some credit.

[BurgundyNGold]

24 of his 30 million in is base salary from 2009-2012. Give Gibbs some credit.
I don't think Gibbs is very much invoved in the numbers, Akh. I'm the first to slam Danny and Vinny for their conga line of stupid moves, but you have to give them credit for knowing how to structure a contract. We're not screwed until we inexplicably decide to keep AA on the roster next year, lol.

[joethefan]

currently, according to the chart, if the'd part with a #4 we'd get 112 points for arch, I'd package that with our #4 (now valued at 96 points) and get thier #3 Pick. Totaling 208 points. I know the 1st pick in the 3rd round is 265. Since we take the cap hit, then that should sffice for the remaining points. Then we'd have another ist day pick

...Currently I don't care about the cap since we always seem to get around it....IMO. And since they seem to throw money away anyway what sould it hurt..at this point...

[akhhorus]

I don't think Gibbs is very much invoved in the numbers, Akh. I'm the first to slam Danny and Vinny for their conga line of stupid moves, but you have to give them credit for knowing how to structure a contract. We're not screwed until we inexplicably decide to keep AA on the roster next year, lol.

He would only cost about 600k-1 million to keep around, but the skins would save some dead money when they cut him.

[Biggie]

24 of his 30 million in is base salary from 2009-2012. Give Gibbs some credit.

Isn't Eric Schaeffer the guy who draws up these genius contracts?

Btw, Joe Gibbs is my hero. I give him all the credit in the world.

[joethefan]

ive heard this on a few websites that martz could become arizonas next head coach and would be interested in having archuleta. thoughts?l

AH!!!link?

[Axegrinder]

Deal,as long as they leave the Playmate!

[SkinsASchamps]

Where have you ever seen a 6 foot, 220 pound LB?

Nick barnett- 6-2 232.
Derrick brooks 6-0 235
Ian Gold- 6-0 222
Mike Petersen 6-1 232
Zach Thomas 5-11 228

NFL.com stats.

Arch- 6-0 223...

I only looked at a few. Some were obviously bigger but it could be done.

[Dept_of_Defense]

Serious questions:

If AA plays in a limited role for the rest of the season, what are the chances that we'll actually cut him? Also, I cannot believe that we would try and re-sign Duckett over Betts. What are our options with Duckett if we don't re-sign?

[joethefan]

Serious questions:

If AA plays in a limited role for the rest of the season, what are the chances that we'll actually cut him? Also, I cannot believe that we would try and re-sign Duckett over Betts. What are our options with Duckett if we don't re-sign?this is betts best season since we had him.....

I say get what you can and sign duckett...IMO..too much wasted time with betts IMO.

[Axegrinder]

Lemar Marshall is 6'2"' 227 lbs..

[SkinsASchamps]

Lemar Marshall is 6'2"' 227 lbs..

Arch could be our next strong side linebacker. When arch plays he plays like a LB only further off the line. I dont think it would be a hard switch.

[Dolla Bill]

this is betts best season since we had him.....

I say get what you can and sign duckett...IMO..too much wasted time with betts IMO.


Pros and cons with them both actually. Betts is a heck of alot better receiver than Duckett, but Duckett is considerably harder to bring down as a runner. I am more apt to resign Duckett personally because the combination of Portis/Duckett would be a better combo than Portis/Betts. Portis/Duckett is a much better change of pace than with Betts.

[redskin_rich]

ive heard this on a few websites that martz could become arizonas next head coach and would be interested in having archuleta. thoughts?
What websites have you heard this from? Sounds like a load of crap to me. Did you just make this up?

[smoak]

i think archeletta for a happy meal would be a fair deal.

I'd accept a morse and down-right grouchy meal at this point.

[joethefan]

Pros and cons with them both actually. Betts is a heck of alot better receiver than Duckett, but Duckett is considerably harder to bring down as a runner. I am more apt to resign Duckett personally because the combination of Portis/Duckett would be a better combo than Portis/Betts. Portis/Duckett is a much better change of pace than with Betts.also duckett will get the hard yard

[Dept_of_Defense]

What websites have you heard this from? Sounds like a load of crap to me. Did you just make this up?
I was going to ask the same thing. How can Martz, an assistant coach under contract with another team, be talking about coaching a team he doesn't have yet and that currently has a coach, and a player that is also under contract with another team? I want to see some evidence.

[joethefan]

I was going to ask the same thing. How can Martz, an assistant coach under contract with another team, be talking about coaching a team he doesn't have yet and that currently has a coach, and a player that is also under contract with another team? I want to see some evidence.maybe they dug it up when martz was with the rams...some time ago

[Green-Is-Good]

I would also take a 7th rounder for Arch
He has been awful and losing him would relieve our cap space
Not to mention, a lot of impact players fall to the 7th round (Colston, anyone?)