ESPN breaking news: Campbell the starter!! [Merged]

[RedskinsDave]

ESPN just reported they have breaking news from Washington. I will update once they report it.

[Dolla Bill]

Dear God. Gotta love the suspense.

[LATrueRedskin]

This has to be it...

[LATrueRedskin]

Campbell is the starter.

[csquared]

Man hopefully it aint Joe stepping down.

[RedskinsDave]

It's that Campbell is starting!!!!!!!

[fent]

Campbell!!!!

[akhhorus]

Campbell is the starter.

Le roi est mort, long vivent le nouveau roi

[greatest2]

JC to start vs. TB

[IHATEDALLAS'82'87'91]

CAMPBELL!!!!

[Ibleedburgundy]

Yeeeeaaaaahhhhh!

[BostonSkins]

Here's your chance, Kid. Go Skins

[AliBabba]

Campbell is the starter.

Le roi est mort, long vivent le nouveau roi

YES!

[GWBlitzST]

I wish it was a home game.

[Dolla Bill]

Let the reign of Campbell begin.

[AliBabba]

I AM CRYING TEARS OF JOY!!!

[CNYSkinFan]

About time....let the new era begin!!!!

[EHoffman]

WOOOOOO!

[joethefan]

Praise the Lord.!!!

[RedskinsDave]

Shally's post count will drop to 30 per day!!

[SpicyMcHaggis]

What? No Collins?

[redskins567]

WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO CAMPBELL IS STARTING I GOT TEARS OF JOY!!:wacky:

[wewantdallas]

This is great news, and was SO necessary.

BUT...everyone better expect some growing pains from this kid.

Don't be foolish enough to think that he's going to come right out of the gate and have Rothlesberger-like success. We all HOPE he does, but Redskins fandom needs to prepare itself for some more POTENTIAL bad days before things get brighter.

That said, Hail, Gibbs, and HAIL, CAMPBELL!!

[Biggie]

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought it was a joke...

Edit: HE DID IT! HE DID IT!

[redskins567]

JOE GIBBBS SAID IT ON HIS PRESS CONFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JASONS STARTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:flower1: :Pickle:

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

WOOOOO!

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

finally he'll be able to get some quality game time experience

[fent]

I wish it was a home game.

not as much pressure to start him away from the home fans, especially as quick as they've been to boo lately.

[Green-Is-Good]

Great news!
What was Mark's reaction?

[redskins567]

Joe Gibbs Said Mark was upset, but took the news like a gentlemen.

[Redskin006]

thank god, lets get this franchise back in order!

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Let the reign of Campbell begin.
Long live the King.

[bergiemoore]

Any confirmation in the form of a presser, or something in print?

[hail2skins]

It's in the Gibbs press conference thread.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Yes!!!!!!!!!! No more Mark Brunell :)

Hopefully we'll remember this day forever... (in a good way)

[ryflan47]

hope this works out

[Biggie]

I love Joe Gibbs.

[smoak]

Woo-who!!! I am so excited!! I'm sure the whiners will still knock Gibbs, but this is great timing. Making the change before last week sends a defeatist attitutude to the veteran players that didn't spend the better part of three years toiling with Brunell to make things right. Its Campbell's team now and it makes sense to everyone envolved to make this change and not look back.

And in an unrelated note Czabe can rot in Hades.

[Skinz4lyfe]

Aw man I was hoping it was Ramsey.

[bergiemoore]

In print here (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=2660631)

[DoGood]

I'm concerned that JC's first start is coming against Tampa Bay's defense. How is it looking this year?

[redskins567]

Aw man I was hoping it was Ramsey. LOL!:lol1: Lets go get him from the Jets. LOL

[esmith1790]

now brunell and bledsoe and play golf on sundays here on out.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I'm concerned that JC's first start is coming against Tampa Bay's defense. How is it looking this year?
No offense, but who cares. We have to start somewhere.

[hail2skins]

Jason can start studying defenses tonight. Our next two opponents play each other tonight.

[smoak]

Wow, reading this thread is like reading the offseason threads. People's expectations are way out of whack!? Campbell is not a savior, but I firmly believe he can be a key piece of the puzzle. Unless he can play DB, don't put too much on the kid. Yeesh. Lets just enjoy the rest of the season knowing we are getting a glimpse of the future.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

now brunell and bledsoe and play golf on sundays here on out.
Gotta love the evolution... I remember when they were the new breed of QB's, lighting up at Jax and NE

[shally]

No offense, but who cares. We have to start somewhere.

tampa is not what it once was. still formidable. he will get a ton of blitzes from monty kiffin.
they better have the hot reads ready.. draws. screens. dump offs. quick slants..etc..

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Jason can start studying defenses tonight. Our next two opponents play each other tonight.
Nice... I hadn't thought about that one... I must see the game also!

[shally]

Wow, reading this thread is like reading the offseason threads. People's expectations are way out of whack!? Campbell is not a savior, but I firmly believe he can be a key piece of the puzzle. Unless he can play DB, don't put too much on the kid. Yeesh. Lets just enjoy the rest of the season knowing we are getting a glimpse of the future.

as i said. 2007 just started... get rocky and doughty some playing time too. let's see a healthy dose of duckett.

[MPCSkins]

Tampa is a great place to start. It is a WINNABLE game for this team and if Campbell can get a win in his first start he can get some confidence for The Carolina game.

[AliBabba]

Wow, reading this thread is like reading the offseason threads. People's expectations are way out of whack!? Campbell is not a savior, but I firmly believe he can be a key piece of the puzzle. Unless he can play DB, don't put too much on the kid. Yeesh. Lets just enjoy the rest of the season knowing we are getting a glimpse of the future.
I bet I am as excited as anyone about this, but I don't think we will all of a sudden become a SB threat with JC.

It just gives us a chance to really use our weapons on offense, and more importantly get an idea of what we have to do concerning our QB position for the next few years. Do we have the right guy right now? or is JC not the QB we need and do we need to look for someone else this offseason.

I AM SO DAMN HAPPY THAT BRUNELL WILL NOT BE STARTING NEXT WEEK!!!

[smoak]

as i said. 2007 just started... get rocky and doughty some playing time too. let's see a healthy dose of duckett.

Hell YES!

Memo to all the current "starters":

Take a good look at Adam Archuletta and bust your butt not to become that guy that needs to take a seat. Play every game with fire and intensity.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Wow, reading this thread is like reading the offseason threads. People's expectations are way out of whack!? Campbell is not a savior, but I firmly believe he can be a key piece of the puzzle. Unless he can play DB, don't put too much on the kid. Yeesh. Lets just enjoy the rest of the season knowing we are getting a glimpse of the future.
I for one am estatic about the change, but I am realistic. I don't want to speak for others, but I think the excitement is not that we will now win 3 out of our next 4, but we have reason to tune in or go to the game again.

[BSMKF]

All I got to say is 7 and 0 or we dont go.

[DoGood]

as i said. 2007 just started... get rocky and doughty some playing time too. let's see a healthy dose of duckett.

WOW. I forgot alllll about Doughty. That makes me feel a little better about the safety positions. He is a strong safety correct?

Though I think it might be a little early to get Reed in the mix.

[bergiemoore]

Wow, reading this thread is like reading the offseason threads. People's expectations are way out of whack!? Campbell is not a savior, but I firmly believe he can be a key piece of the puzzle. Unless he can play DB, don't put too much on the kid. Yeesh. Lets just enjoy the rest of the season knowing we are getting a glimpse of the future.

It's not so much that we think Campbell is going to instantly channel Peyton Manning and light it up. It's that we won't be subjected to more of the same from a guy who's in the twilight of his career. With our substandard defense, Brunell wouldn't take this team very far anyway. Now, we can at the very least figure out what kind of QB JC will be. Who knows, maybe he will light it up.

[Campbell2Moss13]

VICTORY!:flower1:
Sorry Mark:weak:

[bergiemoore]

At the very least this sends a message to all the players on the team that they are now playing for their jobs. If the coach is willing to yank the starting QB and big money safety, I'm sure he'll be willing to pull a crappy CB/LB/[insert weakest position here].

[Skins7ny]

Thank goodness, I hope we never have to see Brunell throw another pass for this team. He has been done for a long time, it only took our season being over for Gibbs to admit. It is shameful that we sacrificed the season because of his pig-headed loyalty to one player. Criticize the defense all you want, it has been clear to anyone who watches more than one minute of a game that Brunell can't play anymore.

I cannot wait to see how Campbell does as the starter. Yes he is an unknown quantity, but I am very optimistic, I think he is going to be an excellent player. I think he is going to establish himself quickly as the QB of this team, and hopefully keeps the position for the next 10 years.

What a refreshing change that would be-to have a guy be "the guy" year in and year out - we haven't had that since Theismann was in his prime.

LOL!:lol1: Lets go get him from the Jets. LOL

BTW, don't laugh about Ramsey-I guarantee you that this offense would have been a lot more productive if he had been in there all year. Do you think the Jets would trade Ramsey for Brunell right now?

[smoak]

I for one am estatic about the change, but I am realistic. I don't want to speak for others, but I think the excitement is not that we will now win 3 out of our next 4, but we have reason to tune in or go to the game again.

I know what you mean, but if you need to generate reasons to "tune in", then maybe the NFL isn't your cup of tea. Losing certainly takes some of the polish off the season, but being a fan means riding a roller coaster that has ups and downs. In order to enjoy the thrills, you have to go through the slow climbs...

[MONK_in_HOF]

In the words of Ron Burgundy.... "SUPER DUPER". Hopefully this is the first step towards righting the ship in the future.

[skins111111]

can't wait to see how this works out......the future is NOW......this will be History in the making.........I'm coming to Fed Ex to watch JC ond Co. smother the Panthers, glad he's warming up with the Bucs.....all HAIL

[DoGood]

BTW, don't laugh about Ramsey-I guarantee you that this offense would have been a lot more productive if he had been in there all year. Do you think the Jets would trade Ramsey for Brunell right now?

Even if Brunell and Ramsey sucked equally, NO ONE would trade a 27 year old QB for a 36 year old one. Your question is rhetorical.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

From redskins.com now...

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=22127

[SkinsfaninNJ]

I know what you mean, but if you need to generate reasons to "tune in", then maybe the NFL isn't your cup of tea. Losing certainly takes some of the polish off the season, but being a fan means riding a roller coaster that has ups and downs. In order to enjoy the thrills, you have to go through the slow climbs...
Hey now, I watched every minute of yesterday's game, which is more than I'd bet most are willing to admit to on this board. Plus, I was the guy who thought we still had a shot to win at halftime.

But from an overall prospective, I know what you mean.

[whistleandthumb]

Man, I sure hope JC is half as good as some (many!!) of the posters here have already declared him to be. If he is, we're off and running for the next decade or so. If not, a lot of people are going to be eating a lot of their own words.

Personally, I still don't think Mark is the problem with this team. He's not the greatest QB in the league, but he's certainly not the reason we're losing games. And you're ignorant if you think he's the reason we're not going downfield.

But, at 3-6, we need to start playing for 2007. Let's see what we got in the kid, and, hopefully it's what we're all hoping he's got.

[Minnesota Mike]

I hope Gibbs gives Campbell more than the one-half of a game Ramsey got last year before he switches back to Brunell.

[meloveskinslongtime]

careful everyone ... i was extremely excited when i heard the news but i took one step back and cleared my thoughts. I hope everyone isnt expecting huge things from campbell right now. essentially he is a rookie quarterback. and just because homoromo stepped in and did well does not guaruntee campbell will do as well. i think this team is still going to struggle for a variety of reasons.

however, this is a step in the right direction as campbell will begin to learn the game inside and out and begin his road to a record 13 straight pro bowls.


P.S. what is going to happen with Brunell? if he retires how does his cap hit work out, because i am guessing it is going to be pretty big for next year

[shally]

I hope Gibbs gives Campbell more than the one-half of a game Ramsey got last year before he switches back to Brunell.

not gonna happen. only way campbell comes out is due to injury

[BandwagonMark]

Vio con Dios ocho stinko

[Redskinmayhem]

No offense, but who cares. We have to start somewhere.

Exactly, lets not expect him to do much more than manage the game and make 1 or 2 good throws per game. With that said, we won't be let down by our expectations of him.

[golongdude]

Everyone has to get behind the kid and stay behind the kid for quite a long while.

The book will be out on JC for well over a season. Let's give him a lengthy opportunity to get a grip on things. We have to have a franchise QB - really the first since JoeT.

GO JASON!

[guinness4health]

And you're ignorant if you think he's the reason we're not going downfield.

well call me ignorant because no one can convince me that he is not the reason we won't go downfield.....

randle El throws a better deep ball than Brunell....

[WarEagle]

Everyone has to get behind the kid and stay behind the kid for quite a long while.

The book will be out on JC for well over a season. Let's give him a lengthy opportunity to get a grip on things. We have to have a franchise QB - really the first since JoeT.

GO JASON!

Excellent post! I hope his first play from scrimmage is a 60 yard bomb down field. I don't care if our receiver catches it - I just want to send a message to TB that we have established a vertical game.

[JasonCampbell]

Yeah baby.

[skinfan43]

Excellent news, time to Rock-n-Roll, JC/DC style!!!:banger:

(I don't mind having a classy vet like Brunell at backup either, BTW)

[GWBlitzST]

Go with Science, Mark. There's a new JC in town.

[bergiemoore]

well call me ignorant because no one can convince me that he is not the reason we won't go downfield.....

randle El throws a better deep ball than Brunell....

I think that anyone that is not Brunell is ignorant of why he doesn't go down field more often. So, yes, count me as an ignoramus as well, please. And keep the ad hominem attacks coming!

[Redskinmayhem]

Everyone has to get behind the kid and stay behind the kid for quite a long while.

The book will be out on JC for well over a season. Let's give him a lengthy opportunity to get a grip on things. We have to have a franchise QB - really the first since JoeT.

GO JASON!


agreed. I'd say it's a 3 full season trial. by then we should know if he's worth keeping or if we have to find another option.

[Redskinmayhem]

Excellent post! I hope his first play from scrimmage is a 60 yard bomb down field. I don't care if our receiver catches it - I just want to send a message to TB that we have established a vertical game.

actually, that's not a bad idea....maybe mix in a few deep plays through out the game, regardless if they hit or not. That'll show them they have to respect that aspect.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Go with Science, Mark. There's a new JC in town.:lol1: Oh My Science!

[Redskinmayhem]

randle El throws a better deep ball than Brunell....


Pretty sad isn't it? the moment ARE got the ball, Dawkins turned and ran to Cooley. They knew exactly what was coming....BTW, if you look at it, it was a PERFECT throw by ARE right in the face of pressure too.

[Rogers_Redskins]

I hope he comes in and plays weel enough to build confindence in himself, that is the most important thing. I really can't remember a time when the Skins drafted a QB and he was successful? Can anybody tell me th last time we drafted a good QB?

[dabro]

YEEE-HAAAAAA!!!!!!

[DoGood]

I'm still in shock.

[AliBabba]

did you guys hear that Gibbs may finally bench Brunell soon?










:rolleyes:

[Green-Is-Good]

Pretty sad isn't it? the moment ARE got the ball, Dawkins turned and ran to Cooley. They knew exactly what was coming....BTW, if you look at it, it was a PERFECT throw by ARE right in the face of pressure too.

And this seems to be the case every time he throws
Maybe he is good enough to be a full-time QB in the NFL?

[Pet-E-Bone]

How does the fact that Campbell is going to play change the fact that the sorry a** defense will still be playing? Why don't they also bench Cornelius Griffin, Andre Carter, and Carlos Rogers for their lack of productivity? I'm glad that Campbell will be playing because he is the future but I don't like the fact that Brunell is taking the fall for the simple fact that the 'Skins quite possibly may have the worst defense in football right now....

[3644Skins]

It's about freaking time, that's all I can say. I don't know what it is with Gibbs and waiting nine game into the season to make QB changes but it's long over due. What ever clicked in his head I'm just happy it did. In my opinion the season is pretty much over playoff wise but now we can play hard, finish out the season strong and look forward to JC starting next season with some playing time under his belt!!!

[ConradCountry]

To bad the million dollar staff toilletted a season before making the decision.

[Santheb]

I was waiting for a pizza to be made so I could take it home when I heard this on the two minute drill on Sirius NFL Radio.

I got out and did a dance of joy.

[Skins7ny]

Even if Brunell and Ramsey sucked equally, NO ONE would trade a 27 year old QB for a 36 year old one. Your question is rhetorical.

Gibbs did, for all practical purposes. Look where it has gotten us.

[3644Skins]

How does the fact that Campbell is going to play change the fact that the sorry a** defense will still be playing? Why don't they also bench Cornelius Griffin, Andre Carter, and Carlos Rogers for their lack of productivity? I'm glad that Campbell will be playing because he is the future but I don't like the fact that Brunell is taking the fall for the simple fact that the 'Skins quite possibly may have the worst defense in football right now....


Well it doesn't change that fact but at least it gets our mind off how bad the defense is for one day. I'm with you on the benching of Carter and Rogers especially Rogers but I think Griffin has been pretty decent, well better than Carter and Rogers have been.

[RedskinRyan]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!

ill quit my job to make sure i dont miss this.....jk, i got DVR now

[dabro]

tampa is not what it once was. still formidable. he will get a ton of blitzes from monty kiffin.
they better have the hot reads ready.. draws. screens. dump offs. quick slants..etc..Well, he's been watching Brunell throwing those all season, so he should know about them by now!!

[3644Skins]

To bad the million dollar staff toilletted a season before making the decision.


PREACH!!! You're absolutely right about that. Too freaking bad.

[rskinsfan10]

Gibbs did, for all practical purposes. Look where it has gotten us.Right, the same guy that couldn't beat out a weak armed QB coming off two shoulder surgeries.

[DoGood]

Gibbs did, for all practical purposes. Look where it has gotten us.

But Ramsey was a disappointment and he was left over from Spurrier's debacle. Patrick was destroyed during the season where he almost broke the sacked record. I would still make that trade for Brunell today. At least it got us to the playoffs last season. Ramsey wasn't going to do that.

[rskinsfan10]

How does the fact that Campbell is going to play change the fact that the sorry a** defense will still be playing? Why don't they also bench Cornelius Griffin, Andre Carter, and Carlos Rogers for their lack of productivity? I'm glad that Campbell will be playing because he is the future but I don't like the fact that Brunell is taking the fall for the simple fact that the 'Skins quite possibly may have the worst defense in football right now....Man, someone out there really does see the entire picture.....

[CNYSkinFan]

Right, the same guy that couldn't beat out a weak armed QB coming off two shoulder surgeries.
God Ramsey had so many chances here and won us nothing...NOTHING!!!!!! Brunell got us into the playoffs last year. I am so sick of the name Ramsey right now I could puke.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

How does the fact that Campbell is going to play change the fact that the sorry a** defense will still be playing? Why don't they also bench Cornelius Griffin, Andre Carter, and Carlos Rogers for their lack of productivity? I'm glad that Campbell will be playing because he is the future but I don't like the fact that Brunell is taking the fall for the simple fact that the 'Skins quite possibly may have the worst defense in football right now....
you're right. this decision has nothing to do with the defense, so why even bring it up?

[DoGood]

How does the fact that Campbell is going to play change the fact that the sorry a** defense will still be playing? Why don't they also bench Cornelius Griffin, Andre Carter, and Carlos Rogers for their lack of productivity? I'm glad that Campbell will be playing because he is the future but I don't like the fact that Brunell is taking the fall for the simple fact that the 'Skins quite possibly may have the worst defense in football right now....

That doesn't change the fact that our season is over and Brunell is probably out of gas. Campbell needs snaps.

[IndySkin]

Finally!

[dabro]

That doesn't change the fact that our season is over and Brunell is probably out of gas. Campbell needs snaps.Yep, and I think it'll be worth the price of admission just to see JC develop. He's got the talent, and the touch. He'll probably be confused because this will be his first time out against NFL defenses, but I have a feeling he's going to make plays we haven't seen around here for years. He's got the arm strength to stick it in between defenders. Hello, middle range passing game! We've missed you!

[DoGood]

Yep, and I think it'll be worth the price of admission just to see JC develop. He's got the talent, and the touch. He'll probably be confused because this will be his first time out against NFL defenses, but I have a feeling he's going to make plays we haven't seen around here for years. He's got the arm strength to stick it in between defenders. Hello, middle range passing game! We've missed you!

I have tickets to the eagles and giants games in December and to tell you the truth, I wasn't really looking forward to them yesterday. Today, I am very excited to see JC play in person.

[FunBunch5]

tampa is not what it once was. still formidable. he will get a ton of blitzes from monty kiffin.
they better have the hot reads ready.. draws. screens. dump offs. quick slants..etc..

If one thing this offense does well it is screens and dump offs. :)

[Skaggsrules]

At least Campbell will give himself more time, and will try and hit the deep man

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

God Ramsey had so many chances here and won us nothing...NOTHING!!!!!! Brunell got us into the playoffs last year. I am so sick of the name Ramsey right now I could puke.
Just for fun....

Ramsey, Ramsey, Ramsey, Ramsey!!!!

[skins74]

Hooray!

[HailVictory]

First I'd like to thank Mark for his service to our beloved franchise. I think in time we'll remember his professionalism and big plays against Dallass fondly.
That said: Free at last, free at last. Thank God Almighty we are free at Last.
Hopefully the feeling of rejuvenation I've had since hearing the news will spread throughout the rest of the team. Good move coach.

[MWballer]

Let the JC era begin...Yipeee!!

[HAWGZHEAD]

Man it just registered who we will be playing this weekend. I love this new rivalry we have with Tampa. Great game for Campbell to begin with.

[redskins567]

Man it just registered who we will be playing this weekend. I love this new rivalry we have with Tampa. Great game for Campbell to begin with. Your right. We do got a mini rivalry with Tampa. We have played them 4 times(including post season) the past 3 seasons.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Your right. We do got a mini rivalry with Tampa. We have played them 4 times(including post season) the past 3 seasons.The phantom alstott TD, the Wild-Card battle, those were some tough fought games last year.

[Skins Guy]

YES! I'm smiling! YES!

i saw jason campbell at tysons last friday (i think), i waved and he waved back!

i know, random, but i had to tell you guys :)

[akhhorus]

Just for fun....

Ramsey, Ramsey, Ramsey, Ramsey!!!!

You be careful, Ramsey might show up behind you with a hook for a hand. cough cough not like he's doesn't have the free time for it cough cough

[counter_tre]

Ok I don't know if anyone has talked about this but guys I think time is repeating itself...

Does anyone think it is ironic that Jason Campbell is making his first NFL start in Tampa Bay exactly where Doug Williams made his debut?

But wait! Theres more...

Not only does JC have Doug's number, but (this is where it gets weird) when Doug played there was also a power running back who was having a good season. We got him from the Falcons. Can any tell me where we got Duckett? Thats right...we recieved TJ Duckett from the Atlanta Falcons. Ironic isn't it?

[DCGreys]

YES! I'm smiling! YES!

i saw jason campbell at tysons last friday (i think), i waved and he waved back!

i know, random, but i had to tell you guys :)

Did he have good arm strength on that wave? Quick release? Pretty accurate? He wasnt waving at the fan next to you and you intercepted it?
Just kidding; no Redskins players waving at me out here in New Mexico.

[Skins Guy]

Did he have good arm strength on that wave? Quick release? Pretty accurate? He wasnt waving at the fan next to you and you intercepted it?
Just kidding; no Redskins players waving at me out here in New Mexico.

hahaha, it was right to me. he was parked next to me and i was star struck for a few seconds, i didnt wave until we both pulled out of the mall..

carlos rogers also walked into my friends store haha, i didnt say a word to him though, i was kinda shocked, again hahaha....

[Biggie]

Excellent post! I hope his first play from scrimmage is a 60 yard bomb down field. I don't care if our receiver catches it - I just want to send a message to TB that we have established a vertical game.

To be honest, that wouldn't make much difference. We've thrown bombs before - we did it last week. What we really need are some passes over the middle. That's the one part of the field our offense almost never uses.

[Oregonian]

The time was ripe and I am glad he is going in.

I'm not annointing him yet. But the good news is, there should be plenty of time to see if he has "it." I expect Gibbs already has an idea after seeing him in practice for the last 2 1/2 years.

Keep your fingers crossed!

(and how about throwing Rocky in there while we're at it)

[hogs86]

I feel reall good about Campbell.It is time for him to play.:)

[rusty73]

Wow, reading this thread is like reading the offseason threads. People's expectations are way out of whack!? Campbell is not a savior, but I firmly believe he can be a key piece of the puzzle. Unless he can play DB, don't put too much on the kid. Yeesh. Lets just enjoy the rest of the season knowing we are getting a glimpse of the future.
I totally agree with that, unless Campbell can play D I don't know how much will change, but change is the order of the day. That is of course unless JC stands for, you get my drift!?:lol1:

[NCskinsfanatic]

This is great news, and was SO necessary.

BUT...everyone better expect some growing pains from this kid.

Don't be foolish enough to think that he's going to come right out of the gate and have Rothlesberger-like success. We all HOPE he does, but Redskins fandom needs to prepare itself for some more POTENTIAL bad days before things get brighter.

That said, Hail, Gibbs, and HAIL, CAMPBELL!!
Exactly, as everyone here knows I'm a MB supporter, I think he's a class act, handled the media well and still don't feel like he was anymore than 25% of the problem with this team. I am a redskins fan first and foremost though and a Joe Gibbs fan for life so I support this move and hope Campbell does well.I just aint so sure a lot of people are going to like what they see early on, he's got the skills that brunell lacks but he's never taken a snap. He has to run a complicated O that he's been studying for all of about 9 months tops.The other 10 players on Offense continue to make mistakes, run the wrong routes and rack up penalties and don't even get me started about the D. I wish Jason well but I'm sure if he doesn't lead us to 4 or 5 more victories this season, some of the same people trouncing Brunell will be calling Campbell a bust.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Ok I don't know if anyone has talked about this but guys I think time is repeating itself...

Does anyone think it is ironic that Jason Campbell is making his first NFL start in Tampa Bay exactly where Doug Williams made his debut?

But wait! Theres more...

Not only does JC have Doug's number, but (this is where it gets weird) when Doug played there was also a power running back who was having a good season. We got him from the Falcons. Can any tell me where we got Duckett? Thats right...we recieved TJ Duckett from the Atlanta Falcons. Ironic isn't it?
Too much free time :)

[Slobberknocker]

People will pro'ly say I'm snarkling funny water, but I think the Portis injury is a blessing in disguise. Time to shed the Burgundy-N-Gold glasses and see what we got for next year. This is a HUGE first step toward a recharged philosophy in general.

Play Duckett, play Betts, play Patten -- clear the bench and throw 'em all on the field and see who we've got. Open the playbook, bomb away...

Time to stop being a legend and start doing what legends do. Fight hard, hit hard, and think this through from top to bottom.

I know we can do this!!! Take NOTHING for granted but the war on the East.

Hail!

[HAWGZHEAD]

People will pro'ly say I'm snarkling funny waterSomehow I think noone was gonna say that. :D

[davepharmd]

Taking off the B&G blinders, we are all but out of any playoff contention. That being said, 2007 starts this week. While a win (and subsequent wins) would be great, we need to see some real production/progress from Campbell. He'll have 7 games to get the "rookie" out of him and hopefully come into 2007 ready to lead us to some victories.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Somehow I think noone was gonna say that. :D
yeah he kinda got me there too...lol.

[daEz0r]

i'm so excited...

[Slobberknocker]

I had to bamboozle ya a bit to hide the misdirection. Nobody but nobody wants Portis hurt or out of the game. A healthy Portis means he starts and gets the bulk of the carries. That's a given.

I don't find it a coincidence that we're changing QBs and sitting Portis down to heal at the same time. What we've got here is a semi-regime change, at least till 07. Let's exploit the situation and blast Duckett and for goodness sake find out what we have.

It's time.

[Slobberknocker]

Campbell's reaction, per PFT:

"I was kind of shocked," Campbell said. "It's like when the principal calls you into the office, you get kind of jittery, you don't know what to expect. . . . Basically he told me it's my job. It's my job, and I've got to approach it that way."

Man, I love the kid. Smart move, Gibbsy. If you make the switch, it's gotta be for the duration. If Alex Smith can get his legs under him, so can Campbell. But only if we burn bridges and let him learn.

[whistleandthumb]

Well, this is exactly the way it should be, and I think we have a chance to have a very strong 2007 season because we're essentially getting 7 "real" games of preseason football. This'll give the team time to get acclimated to JC and how he works on the field, and it'll give JC time to get adjusted to the speed and complexity of the NFL.

If CP can come back, it'll be even better, because JC will get to work with our biggest offensive weapon.

[FanFromArizona]

As the poster from the west coast, I was pondering this move on my way home tonight. It's been awhile since I made a meaningful post, so to start,

I'd like to thank Joe for the chance to "vent" in a positive way.

For the sake of the future, I applaud this move, but I want to state that this change represents a change in attitude to me. With Mark, the attitude has been to "play to not lose" and for the defense to keep us in the game.

We no longer have that attitude. The change of QB reflects a change to "play to win" because the defense CANNOT keep us in the game. I believe for what Mark brought to the table was lacking in the "play to win". It's basically the philosophy Minnesota is operating under [run the ball, keep the turnovers to a minimum, and have the defense keep the team in the game].

I am glad that the change was made so that we can energize the team, allow the potential and risk of letting Campbell play finally take seat. My only concern will be how well the line will protect Jason now, I just hope it's not on the Patrick Ramsey level.

[redskins567]

I cant wait to see Campbell Play. Hope hes not another Patrick Ramsey:rolleyes:

[HAWGZHEAD]

I cant wait to see Campbell Play. Hope hes not another Patrick Ramsey:rolleyes:Noooooooooo, please delete your post before this becomes a Ramsey thread.

[FanFromArizona]

Noooooooooo, please delete your post before this becomes a Ramsey thread.


Well, hopefully the line will protect better than they did back then, or our QB will learn what the color green looks like.

[Biggie]

As the poster from the west coast, I was pondering this move on my way home tonight. It's been awhile since I made a meaningful post, so to start,

I'd like to thank Joe for the chance to "vent" in a positive way.

For the sake of the future, I applaud this move, but I want to state that this change represents a change in attitude to me. With Mark, the attitude has been to "play to not lose" and for the defense to keep us in the game.

We no longer have that attitude. The change of QB reflects a change to "play to win" because the defense CANNOT keep us in the game. I believe for what Mark brought to the table was lacking in the "play to win". It's basically the philosophy Minnesota is operating under [run the ball, keep the turnovers to a minimum, and have the defense keep the team in the game].

I am glad that the change was made so that we can energize the team, allow the potential and risk of letting Campbell play finally take seat. My only concern will be how well the line will protect Jason now, I just hope it's not on the Patrick Ramsey level.

Jason Campbell is more mobile than Brunell or Ramsey.

[skins67]

first post i've been around here a couple years. with this change ,just a thought ,2years ago about this time we brought in ramsey and the hole team seam to play better so 4 those of u that are still trashing our D lets take a new aproach and give them 1 more shot.thanks mb for all u did,the play-offs were nice,but as redskins fans we want MORE...

[dabro]

It'll be fun to watch. I personally think that Campbell has all the tools, and because he can also run, he'll make the OL's line easier in certain respects. They'd better stick a tight end on Chris Samuels' side, though, or else JC's going to be in for some nasty surprises.

[SkinsASchamps]

just heard... WOOOOO HOOOOO!!!

[guess88]

Interesting thing...

To give Campbell acclimated, they'll probably have him hand off the ball more, and which means more running.. and with CP out, and Duckett activated.. do we become a hardnosed north-south running team again?

Can Al Saunders change his game plan? If so, I think we might actually see something great this season.

[skins67]

just a thought will it help that jason is right handed considering that mark was a lefty.is our protection better on the right ?also are sounders plays better suited for a righty (isn't trent green a righty)?

[greatest2]

ok, well 7 games isn't enough to get the so called "rookie" out of JC...i mean look at eli, it took him a little while, and while i think JC is a little more accurate, i think eli has better field awareness to start his career.

i think we are goin to have ups and downs with this kid right up till week 10 next year, and i hope fans / coachs / players can stick with it.

JC is the future and i believe in him, we may finally have a franchise Qb, how great would that be!!!

[Biggie]

just a thought will it help that jason is right handed considering that mark was a lefty.is our protection better on the right ?also are sounders plays better suited for a righty (isn't trent green a righty)?

It'll definately be easier on Jansen because he doesn't have to protect the blind side anymore.

[CarMike]

Taking off the B&G blinders, we are all but out of any playoff contention. That being said, 2007 starts this week. While a win (and subsequent wins) would be great, we need to see some real production/progress from Campbell. He'll have 7 games to get the "rookie" out of him and hopefully come into 2007 ready to lead us to some victories.
Starting with Tampa Bay, we'll be able to see where the blame belongs.

If we see our same ole tired offense with Campbell starting, it'll all be on the coaches and the play calling.

If Campbell comes in and lights it up with deep passes and putting points on the board, the blame should be directed at Brunell.

Overall dave. I completely agree. Next year starts next week.

[BandWagon]

Well first off I'd like to recognize Mark Brunell. Class-act and a true sportsman. It's clear to me he's in the twilight of his playing days, but when "completely" healthy he still had a little gas left in the tank. Thanks to him we had one of the most memorable moments in Redskins/Dallas history. He and Moss go hand-in-hand in to the annals for all time. I also have a lot of respect for Gibbs giving him every inch possible to see if he could recapture last year's magic. It was trying to us, no doubt, but I respect him for doing it.

That said, I'm thrilled about the Campbell era getting off to a start. I'm not delusional about my expectations. It will probably be rocky for the first couple of years. I'm thrilled because one of those years starts now...much like Manning getting beat up in 2004. Let's take our lumps in a lost season and start anew next year. I'm thrilled because we're not playing for one last moment of glory, but playing for the foreseeable future. As a fan, that's what I'm ready for...

[bgforever]

Interesting thing...

To give Campbell acclimated, they'll probably have him hand off the ball more, and which means more running.. and with CP out, and Duckett activated.. do we become a hardnosed north-south running team again?

Can Al Saunders change his game plan? If so, I think we might actually see something great this season.

Those questions and more to be answered this coming Sunday. I think by all means, Saunders conferred with JG on this and knew full well what he's got to work with at QB now. For the change and time spent waiting, JC's got a great attitude to match the challenge.

[GibbsFan]

I think Campbell has everything working against him. The Defense is likely to be just as sorry as they have been all year. Williams will probably have a good if not great game. The kicking game is erratic, although the coverage units are decent. So we will probably continue to lose out in the field position game. Plus, the OLine has been bad in pass protection all year. Even so, I applaud the change because we have to start working forward. Its a great opportunity for the young kid because Kiffin will dial-up a lot of blitzes. there will be some opportunities for big plays but don't get upset if JC turns the ball over a few times. As long as he keeps his head in the game we may still have a chance to pull one out against the Bucs. Hail!

[Skins57]

For some reason I do not feel like it is out of reach, we put together a good run last year. I know I am looking through those rose colored glasses but I am not ready to give up the fight yet

[redskins567]

Well "next year" should have better defence.Look at this stat from espn.com- Pass def-31st in league. Washington opposing QBs-171 completions 286 attempts 59.8 percent completion rate. 2163 yards!:banghead: 240.3 yards per game allowed. 7.77 yards a catch (32nd in league):rolleyes: We have given up an 84 yard play. Opposing QBs have scored 17 Tds on us (32nd in league) .We have had only 2 interceptions this year. We have only sacked 13 times. Opposing QBs have had passer ratings of 101.2! (32nd in league again) -.-

[redwolf1218]

i feel bad for Brunell because he probably could have had a good career as an announcer for games or maybe even on ESPN but he has spoiled his reputation now.

at least Theisman went out with a spectacular broken leg after getting a super bowl win, and now he's enjoyed 20+ years of commentating.

i see so many similarities there. Theisman was so done by the time he broke his leg, with Schraeder waiting for his chance. then he came in to light it up, much like i hope Campbell will now.

[silverspring]

I agree that next year starts sunday, but we need to lower our expectations of cambell. Lets remember he is a rookie and has to learn, lets be patient with him.

[redskin_rich]

It'll definately be easier on Jansen because he doesn't have to protect the blind side anymore.
Eh, with Brunell the best way to pressure him has been right up the middle, in his face. He has shown a reluctance to stay in the pocket this year and once he is flushed, half of the field no longer needed to be defended.

[CarMike]

I agree that next year starts sunday, but we need to lower our expectations of cambell. Lets remember he is a rookie and has to learn, lets be patient with him.
I'm Gardner on this one silverspring. [50/50]

He's not really a rookie. But he will be starting his first game in the NFL. Heck, its his first real action since being drafted by the Redskins.

Yet, he should do better than a rookie would. His 24 games of being inactive should have given him time on the practice field to be a little ahead of the game over a true rookie.

[redwolf1218]

For some reason I do not feel like it is out of reach, we put together a good run last year. I know I am looking through those rose colored glasses but I am not ready to give up the fight yet
a 10 and 6 team might get a wild-card playoff appearance, but probably not one with our division and conference record. i dont think starting Campbell is really conceding that it's over. everyone is just tired of watching Brunell throw it away or dink and dunk it, and there's no future in that. he's just too old to take the grind of a long season, and he just gets progressively worse. ironically, he is probably going to have some kind of a display in the hall of fame for his record of consecutive completions.

[FanFromArizona]

a 10 and 6 team might get a wild-card playoff appearance, but probably not one with our division and conference record. i dont think starting Campbell is really conceding that it's over. everyone is just tired of watching Brunell throw it away or dink and dunk it, and there's no future in that. he's just too old to take the grind of a long season, and he just gets progressively worse. ironically, he is probably going to have some kind of a display in the hall of fame for his record of consecutive completions.

7 & 0 and we don't go?

:lol1:

[redskin_rich]

Well "next year" should have better defence.Look at this stat from espn.com- Pass def-31st in league. Washington opposing QBs-171 completions 286 attempts 59.8 percent completion rate. 2163 yards!:banghead: 240.3 yards per game allowed. 7.77 yards a catch (32nd in league):rolleyes: We have given up an 84 yard play. Opposing QBs have scored 17 Tds on us (32nd in league) .We have had only 2 interceptions this year. We have only sacked 13 times. Opposing QBs have had passer ratings of 101.2! (32nd in league again) -.-
Do you find it completely necessary to color and change the font on every one of your posts? No offense but it makes your post difficult to read and speaking for myself, I am likely to not bother with it. Just a FYI, I understand that you are trying to make your statements stand out but you can achieve that by making a profound point.

[redskin_rich]

i feel bad for Brunell because he probably could have had a good career as an announcer for games or maybe even on ESPN but he has spoiled his reputation now.

at least Theisman went out with a spectacular broken leg after getting a super bowl win, and now he's enjoyed 20+ years of commentating.

i see so many similarities there. Theisman was so done by the time he broke his leg, with Schraeder waiting for his chance. then he came in to light it up, much like i hope Campbell will now.
How exactly has Brunell spoiled his reputation?

[Biggie]

Do you find it completely necessary to color and change the font on every one of your posts? No offense but it makes your post difficult to read and speaking for myself, I am likely to not bother with it. Just a FYI, I understand that you are trying to make your statements stand out but you can achieve that by making a profound point.

To be honest with you, I think I deserve a medal for reading that entire post.

[danny's stogie]

How exactly has Brunell spoiled his reputation?

lol, he could still probably work the CBS AFC broadcasts without getting booed.

[X-Factor13]

LET THE CAMPBELL ERA OFFICIALLY BEGIN!!!



Hopefully we'll see jason on the soup commercials and not mcnabb anymore!

[Biggie]

LET THE CAMPBELL ERA OFFICIALLY BEGIN!!!



Hopefully we'll see jason on the soup commercials and not mcnabb anymore!

If Jason has a good year, Campbell's will be all over that.

[X-Factor13]

To be honest, that wouldn't make much difference. We've thrown bombs before - we did it last week. What we really need are some passes over the middle. That's the one part of the field our offense almost never uses.



which is completely the fault of our old quarterback, because it was kansas city's specialty when saunders was there

[Apache]

OMG!

I can't believe this day has finally come. Way 2 go JC, make us proud.

You don't have to win (although it would be nice) but, at least show us some good signs that we will have one of the best QB's in the league for years to come.

Congrats Man!!!

[techskinsfan]

lets go jc

[SkinsfaninNJ]

How exactly has Brunell spoiled his reputation?
Because clearly Brunell's inability to throw down field affects his overall judgment of the game meaning he is unable to effectively evaluate long passes anymore.:)

[WarEagle]

Ok I don't know if anyone has talked about this but guys I think time is repeating itself...

Does anyone think it is ironic that Jason Campbell is making his first NFL start in Tampa Bay exactly where Doug Williams made his debut?

But wait! Theres more...

Not only does JC have Doug's number, but (this is where it gets weird) when Doug played there was also a power running back who was having a good season. We got him from the Falcons. Can any tell me where we got Duckett? Thats right...we recieved TJ Duckett from the Atlanta Falcons. Ironic isn't it?

Very interesting. Let me add that Jason and Tampa's Cadillac Williams were in the same undefeated backfield at Auburn. Big buddies! Cool.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i really hope people dont come on here trashing the guy if he throws 2 picks. its going to take time, but the fact that he is going to finally get some real time experience is a good thing. he's got more talent than brunell and will be able to make more improvisational plays, but he'll most likely make some mistakes too. i hope our D steps up and gives him plenty of opportunities to get some scores on a short field to build some confidence and not put more pressure on him to make a ton of plays if we get behind. watching the bucs tonight, im just hoping we dont make that team look like it actually has an offense. :doh:

[WarEagle]

Jason's upcoming, dramatic, NFL start just made the local 10 o'clock news down here. I alerted the sports director earlier today so I take full credit. Jason has lots of fans here.:)

[Fathead]

Oh, I'm sure a lot of the people who have been calling for Brunell's head will have a fit the 1st time JC underthrows or overthrows a pass.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

would be nice if we have philip rivers part two on our hands. :)

[Biggie]

would be nice if we have philip rivers part two on our hands. :)

Phillip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Tony Homo... it'd be nice to have any of them on our hands.

[OCSKINSFAN]

7 & 0 and we don't go?

:lol1: 7-0 would be great, and we can always dream, but I'm afraid the odds are about the same as winning the lotto. Remember, even if the offence improves, and I believe it will, even without Portis, we still have the same defense. Even if all parts of the team improved, we still would have to win 7 straight games with a tough schedule. All that said, let's take it 1 game at a time and see what happens.

[Fathead]

8-8 should be the target on record.

[RedSkinBrit]

It is the way forward and great for the future O of the Skins.Go easy on the kid though if the O line don,t give him enough protection,he will come good.

[MPCSkins]

Oh, I'm sure a lot of the people who have been calling for Brunell's head will have a fit the 1st time JC underthrows or overthrows a pass.

I never feel good after a pick, but I sure won't feel as bad about it if it is possibly the young, quarterback of our future throwing it rather than a washed up QB whose playing days are over.

[skinsfan36]

this is awesome time to see his strong arm get the ball to our speedy recievers

[CowboyKilla]

Hell has Frozen Over. Thank the Lord. Campbell = Hope.

[CowboyKilla]

This year starts this sun. Until were mathematically out. He's been sitting 1.5 years he should be better than a "rookie". Talent is talent and I think the kids got it. Essentially your right the things above are just side hopes. Can't wait to see him play.

[OkieSkin]

I'm giddy with anticipation! I think JC will be a winner, if given enough time to develop.

[Bushwacker]

Great News :) Just got into work this morning to read the best bit of news all season. Go JC.

Sunday we will have 3 new players on the field, lets see what JC can do, give him time to prove what a good player he is, 7 games this season will provide him with much needed time for next, plus we will see what TJ is all about. But we will also see Brandon Lloyd getting some ball, now that MB is not looking for Cooley or Moss i belive all the receivers will get some ball and we will see Lloyd as the player we hoped when we picked him up.

Hail Skins, let go, The path to success starts on Sunday!

[bigcmr]

Good its about time.

[SonnyandSam]

I'm all for JC getting his chance but unless the defense cuts out giving up big plays, it won't matter much in the won-loss columns.

We're losing because of the defense....not the offense this year.

[WRSK1NS]

While I don't think MB was the whole problem, I do agree that it was time for us to see what Campbell has got. I have been waiting for us (fans) and for the Skins to have a mobile QB. This is something that we haven't had in years!
HTTR

[dabro]

Oh, I'm sure a lot of the people who have been calling for Brunell's head will have a fit the 1st time JC underthrows or overthrows a pass.Considering that we scored a total of 9 points in 3 divisional away games this year, it will be difficult to do worse that we were already doing!

[American Soldier]

Did anyone hear how many times Joe Gibbs said "more production" in the press conference. He said he was making this move in hopes for more production. Hmm. If the wide receivers are running the wrong routes, if the OL isn't blocking, or the play calling is lacking how do you get "more production"?

Ooooh.....is he saying Mark Brunell wasn't producing? Duh, I get it now.


This is Mark Brunell. And I approve this message.

[American Soldier]

I'm all for JC getting his chance but unless the defense cuts out giving up big plays, it won't matter much in the won-loss columns.

We're losing because of the defense....not the offense this year.


All I have to say is, 3 points.

[American Soldier]

Did anyone hear how many times Joe Gibbs said "more production" in the press conference. He said he was making this move in hopes for more production. Hmm. If the wide receivers are running the wrong routes, if the OL isn't blocking, or the play calling is lacking how do you get "more production"?

Ooooh.....is he saying Mark Brunell wasn't producing? Duh, I get it now.


This is Mark Brunell. And I approve this message.

By the way, if he said he's looking for more production, sounds to me like JC is doing something in practice.

we talkin' bout practice!!

[hail2skins]

Thank goodness, I hope we never have to see Brunell throw another pass for this team. He has been done for a long time, it only took our season being over for Gibbs to admit. It is shameful that we sacrificed the season because of his pig-headed loyalty to one player. Criticize the defense all you want, it has been clear to anyone who watches more than one minute of a game that Brunell can't play anymore.
So you believe Brunell is the reason for the team's woes. Brunell and only Brunell huh. I don't know what games you've been watching but the ones I see don't have Brunell playing defense.

If you think Gibbs had the reigns on Brunell, just wait and see what he does with Jason. If he had a veteran QB just manage the game and not commit turnovers, what do you think he's going to do with a rookie. To think that Gibbs is going to have Al go all out with the offense because a younger QB is playing is absurd. He shouldn't handcuff him but I don't see him letting Jason go all out from the start. Just my opinion and I hope I'm wrong because we need to see what the kid is made of.

[hail2skins]

Did anyone hear how many times Joe Gibbs said "more production" in the press conference. He said he was making this move in hopes for more production. Hmm. If the wide receivers are running the wrong routes, if the OL isn't blocking, or the play calling is lacking how do you get "more production"?

Ooooh.....is he saying Mark Brunell wasn't producing? Duh, I get it now.


This is Mark Brunell. And I approve this message.I think that was his way of not trying to blame everything on Mark which is what he wanted to prevent. I wouldn't read anything into that.

[smoak]

Hey now, I watched every minute of yesterday's game, which is more than I'd bet most are willing to admit to on this board. Plus, I was the guy who thought we still had a shot to win at halftime.

But from an overall prospective, I know what you mean.

Yeah, I didn't mean you personally... I meant a general "you". I often turn games off (or watch on a different TV) for a bit b/c I'm trying to reverse the mojo. It is odd how often it works, but obviously not last week.

Last week was like a kick in groin for sure.

[lakewinola]

With this move, and Duckett's power running, I think we have a legitimate shot at winning our next three games.

[Skin-E-Dip]

Well Im not saying the kid is going to give us wins or anything but at least we are moving forward. I think Jason Campbell is in the best situation a new QB could possibly be in. He has watched and practiced NFL play for a year and absorbed the offense, his team is pretty much done for the year so there is no great demand for immediate wins, and the fans are desperate for anything remotely possitive.


On the side though if this is the last run for Brunnell I want to tip my hat to the old guy and say I have appreciated his efforts in givign what little he had left. He's a good guy and I hope he sticks around next season

[joethefan]

All I'm saying is that we have to be patient with him...we cannot be a win now type squad....we have to give him the same patience that we gave Ramsey...IMO

[SkinsASchamps]

I just picked up Jason Campbell for my FF team as my third stringer. ;)

[vabeach_skinsfan]

I'm all for JC getting his chance but unless the defense cuts out giving up big plays, it won't matter much in the won-loss columns.

We're losing because of the defense....not the offense this year.

I agree, the D had a lot to do with us losing. But our struggles on offense might be because of Mark's physical limitations. Hopefully JC will add another dimension to our game and provide a spark for the team. Although its problay going to be rough for him, he doens't even have our number back to hand the ball off too.

[Carmelo]

i really hope people dont come on here trashing the guy if he throws 2 picks. its going to take time, but the fact that he is going to finally get some real time experience is a good thing. he's got more talent than brunell and will be able to make more improvisational plays, but he'll most likely make some mistakes too. i hope our D steps up and gives him plenty of opportunities to get some scores on a short field to build some confidence and not put more pressure on him to make a ton of plays if we get behind. watching the bucs tonight, im just hoping we dont make that team look like it actually has an offense. :doh:
He could throw 4 picks in his first game and it doesn't matter. It's his first game! I expect him to make great plays and great mistakes, all in one day. I am more worried about how he looks during his last game of the season instead of this one. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see him go perfect for the rest of the year and squeak us into the playoffs too, but I am more worried about seeing him progress into a good QB. I am just looking for him to not get Ramseyfied and be forever ruined because he's haunted by the sounds of phantom footsteps.

[RedHokieSkin]

Before leaving Redskins Park, and before a switch was announced, one veteran said he didn’t think Campbell was ready. He didn’t think Campbell knew the offense well enough yet.

Link (http://www.examiner.com/a-397533~Skins_begin_the_Campbell_era.html)

Anyone know who said this?

[Carmelo]

Link (http://www.examiner.com/a-397533~Skins_begin_the_Campbell_era.html)

Anyone know who said this?
Does Mark know it well enough?

[SkinsFan4Life2003]

i expect JC to have his rough moments out there being that it will be his first games that matter in the NFL. what i hope to see are signs that he will be a good to great player in the future.

[redskin_rich]

Link (http://www.examiner.com/a-397533~Skins_begin_the_Campbell_era.html)

Anyone know who said this?
My bet is that it was Collins. Who else knows the offense well enough to make such a comment?

[RedskinsDave]

You know what, if Campbell doesn't know the offense then maybe Saunders needs to fix that. Also, if he doesn't have what it take then the guys who moved up to pick him need to chew on that and take the blame. There are a few guys taken long after him or not taken at all who seem to be doing just fine.

[dj_stouty]

My bet is that it was Collins. Who else knows the offense well enough to make such a comment?

It probably wasn't Brunell. Talking negatively about teamates to the press isn't his MO.

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

all i want is for someone to stand TALL in the pocket and make a play or two with thier feet. We have some tought Ds coming up and if Campbell can just keep his poise it will say alot to me about his future. Im glad a change was made for the simple fact that i have been hoping for a Qb plan that wasnt gonna self explode at seasons end.

[redskin_rich]

It probably wasn't Brunell. Talking negatively about teamates to the press isn't his MO.
Brunell wasn't at Redskins Park yesterday, when the announcement was made, nor did he make himself available for any comments according to reports. Nevertheless, I agree that he wouldn't have said that anyway. Collins is angry but he should have known that he was brought in to help the others and to be a relief QB, nothing more. I can't imagine that he was ever told he would get a shot to be a starter.

[RedskinsDave]

Brunell wasn't at Redskins Park yesterday, when the announcement was made, nor did he make himself available for any comments according to reports. Nevertheless, I agree that he wouldn't have said that anyway. Collins is angry but he should have known that he was brought in to help the others and to be a relief QB, nothing more. I can't imagine that he was ever told he would get a shot to be a starter.

Collins is angry? That's funny.

[joethefan]

My bet is that it was Collins. Who else knows the offense well enough to make such a comment?
or Saunders.......

[shally]

You know what, if Campbell doesn't know the offense then maybe Saunders needs to fix that. Also, if he doesn't have what it take then the guys who moved up to pick him need to chew on that and take the blame. There are a few guys taken long after him or not taken at all who seem to be doing just fine.


i think all along this offense sounds ridiculously over complex.. strip it down. it is about execution anyway. let's see who the players are who can whip their men individually.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Could it have been Moss who said it? He seems to really like Brunell.

[RedskinsDave]

i think all along this offense sounds ridiculously over complex.. strip it down. it is about execution anyway. let's see who the players are who can whip their men individually.

What's so complex about it? I seem to have almost no problem predicting each play. Hmmm screen pass, screen pass, draw play, end around or maybe a screen pass?

[Farmer Ted]

i think all along this offense sounds ridiculously over complex.. strip it down. it is about execution anyway. let's see who the players are who can whip their men individually.

Dang, it can't be that hard. Hand the ball to TJ. Throw long to Moss. Throw 20+ yards over the middle to Lloyd. Score TD's and win.

[shally]

What's so complex about it? I seem to have almost no problem predicting each play. Hmmm screen pass, screen pass, draw play, end around or maybe a screen pass?

700 pages ?

how many of them are really a different play, or are they just a different player in motion, etc...

i still think, as you say, we ought to have sweep, draw, screen, out, post, , fly...

we don't need as many geegaws.. besides it aint fooling anyone anyway, as parcells said inhis article a couple of weeks ago

[skinfan43]

700 pages ?

how many of them are really a different play, or are they just a different player in motion, etc...

i still think, as you say, we ought to have sweep, draw, screen, out, post, , fly...

we don't need as many geegaws.. besides it aint fooling anyone anyway, as parcells said inhis article a couple of weeks ago
Well, you really do learn something new every day...31 years on this earth and never came across "geegaws" ever before, shally...
Problem is, I'm not exactly sure if I'm smarter for it;)

Just having something (i.e, Campbell w/Saunders) other than the same old BS we've been served thusfar will at least mask the stale flavor of our still-fecal defense.

[smoot]

Brunell has an 86.5 passer rating, 10th best in the NFL. But his average gain of 6.88 yards per pass is tied for second lowest among the top 15 rated quarterbacks. In three NFC East road games, he led no touchdown drives and the Redskins had not scored a point in the third quarter in the past five games.

:imshock:

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

did anyone else have a poblem with al saunders' comments regarding the switch during his interview with kelli johnson? he basically said this is a week to week thing and we are going to see how things go. im thinking he might want to get his guy in there is JC doesnt play well. they better not ramsey jason campbell.

[Dolla Bill]

did anyone else have a poblem with al saunders' comments regarding the switch during his interview with kelli johnson? he basically said this is a week to week thing and we are going to see how things go. im thinking he might want to get his guy in there is JC doesnt play well. they better not ramsey jason campbell.


This is the reason why Gibbs needs to put a muzzle on Saunders. If my mind doesn't fail me (it has plenty of times), this isn't the first time he has said something that undermined a player or a move that Gibbs has done.

[redskin_rich]

This is the reason why Gibbs needs to put a muzzle on Saunders. If my mind doesn't fail me (it has plenty of times), this isn't the first time he has said something that undermined a player or a move that Gibbs has done.
Yeah, I agree. This is the first I had heard about this but having mixed signals coming from the coaching staff is never a good thing. Saunders either needs to be gagged or he needs to take some lessons from Buges in just repeating everything that Gibbs says, or in other words, saying very little.

[smoak]

Yeah, I agree. This is the first I had heard about this but having mixed signals coming from the coaching staff is never a good thing. Saunders either needs to be gagged or he needs to take some lessons from Buges in just repeating everything that Gibbs says, or in other words, saying very little.

Couldn't agree more! I still have faith in Saunders, but I see why some in the KC org considered him a backstabbing political malcontent. I mena this is year one and he already seems to be ever so mildly undermining Coach?

C'mon man.... Get with the program.

[Dolla Bill]

Good thing about Campbell playing is that we will now heavily commit to the run to alleviate any kind of pressure on the kid.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

did anyone else have a poblem with al saunders' comments regarding the switch during his interview with kelli johnson? he basically said this is a week to week thing and we are going to see how things go. im thinking he might want to get his guy in there is JC doesnt play well. they better not ramsey jason campbell.
I can't believe he would say this. Either (a) this is how the staff feels in general and Saunders is letting the cat out of the bag, which could be disasterous for JC or (b) this is the feeling of Saunders and for some unknown reason he feels the need to express this sentiment.

Either way he should just shut up.

[shally]

I can't believe he would say this. Either (a) this is how the staff feels in general and Saunders is letting the cat out of the bag, which could be disasterous for JC or (b) this is the feeling of Saunders and for some unknown reason he feels the need to express this sentiment.

Either way he should just shut up.

saunders had some snide comments about JC earlier this year (maybe at the end of camp ?)... i do not think al is a huge fan of JC..

agree he should shut up

[Dolla Bill]

saunders had some snide comments about JC earlier this year (maybe at the end of camp ?)... i do not think al is a huge fan of JC..

agree he should shut up


This could be either one of two things with Campbell 1) Extra incentive to do well, and rub the old man's face in it when he does well or 2) Create un-necessary pressure on the kid.

I am hoping for case 1.

[Farmer Ted]

Brunell has an 86.5 passer rating, 10th best in the NFL. But his average gain of 6.88 yards per pass is tied for second lowest among the top 15 rated quarterbacks.

That's a really weird way to say that he's got the 14th best yds/pass. When you first read it, you think he's 31st in the nfl, or something.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

saunders had some snide comments about JC earlier this year (maybe at the end of camp ?)... i do not think al is a huge fan of JC..

agree he should shut up
Am I just being paranoid, or does this scare anyone else? Its important for a young QB to have someone to turn to when things get difficult - typically the QB coach or OC or both. It doesn't help much if the OC is the one you are trying to get away from.

[shally]

Am I just being paranoid, or does this scare anyone else? Its important for a young QB to have someone to turn to when things get difficult - typically the QB coach or OC or both. It doesn't help much if the OC is the one you are trying to get away from.

he has a qb coach to go to... he has brunell and collins to ask questions of.. and i bet joe gibbs has his back.... who gives a **** what saunders thinks??

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Yeah, but that's just it. I agree he has a good relationship with Gibbs. But if the QB is having trouble, the heat should be coming from Gibbs and not Saunders. In other words, if you're an important employee like JC, if you struggle and it affects the company, the heat comes from the highest levels Gibbs. It should be up to middle management (Saunders) to have his back and be the calm one to explain how JC can improve. You get chewed out by the big boss and you're immediate boss then comes in and says this is what we can do to improve. In this case its the other way around, and I don't think its particularly healthy to JC development.

Gibbs should not be the one JC should have to turn to even though I don't doubt that he could.

Also, if the play caller doubts your ability, how does that affect the plays he calls?

[redskin_rich]

Am I just being paranoid, or does this scare anyone else? Its important for a young QB to have someone to turn to when things get difficult - typically the QB coach or OC or both. It doesn't help much if the OC is the one you are trying to get away from.
I think a little much is being made out of what was said by Saunders, which is why he shouldn't be saying anything other than whatever Gibbs is saying. The kid hasn't taken one snap in regulation yet, so lets not start getting worried already what the OC thinks of him. Gibbs will give JC the shot he deserves. This is his handpicked QB, unlike Ramsey, who Gibbs inherited and I don't think ever believed in. There isn't going to be a carousal at the QB position, like it was when the 'ol ball coach was here.