Starting Safety

[redskins567]

Would you have Adam Archeletta, Vernon Fox, or Troy Vincent as Safety next week next to Sean Taylor?(whoops wrong sean before).

[joethefan]

Don't change nothing...LOL

[hail2skins]

My first question is why is Springs a Safety?

[Green-Is-Good]

Redskins567,
Springs has not moved to safety, he said he would consider doing it a few years down the line.
I like Fox-Taylor duo

[joethefan]

My first question is why is AA mentioned?

we know he's like 4th on the depth chart....or is he on the depth chart on defense?

[Ibleedburgundy]

I think you mean Sean Taylor, not Shawn Springs. Vernon Fox certainly played well enough to get another start.

[hail2skins]

we know he's like 4th on the depth chart....or is he on the depth chart on defense?Don't misquote me. :D Look at my post.

[bergiemoore]

Depends on the situation, but I gotta stick w/ Fox for pass protection. Bring in Arch in obvious running situations, or when there are 3 safeties. Let Vincent dress, but keep him rested, if possible. We will need him for the rest of the season.

[MPCSkins]

Whatever they did this week, nothing should be changed and I believe it was Fox who was playing the whole game. He got a pick, they didn't give up big plays, and the secondary had a solid day. Leave it as it is and see if they can have a solid outing two weeks in a row.

[hail2skins]

Let me get serious here. I really loved the way Fox and Taylor played yesterday. There was constant communication between the two and they were the ones helping getting the cornerbacks lined up.

[joethefan]

Don't misquote me. :D Look at my post.
your quote says AA...does that mean adam archeletta?....:lol1:

[joethefan]

Let me get serious here. I really loved the way Fox and Taylor played yesterday. There was constant communication between the two and they were the ones helping getting the cornerbacks lined up.


that's because they were in meetings together...remember that song...

"The More we get together, together, together the more we get together the Happier we'll be..."....:lol1:

[redskins567]

I think you mean Sean Taylor, not Shawn Springs. Vernon Fox certainly played well enough to get another start.

Yea i meant S.T. I wrote the wrong sean on defence.:rolleyes:

[joethefan]

Yea i meant S.T. I wrote the wrong sean on defence.:rolleyes:

Bus Stop....LOL

[hail2skins]

your quote says AA...does that mean adam archeletta?....:lol1:No it doesn't. Look at my original post. You misquoted me, I'll have to take you to court.

[joethefan]

No it doesn't. Look at my original post. You misquoted me, I'll have to take you to court.


we'lltake this up tommorrow...cause i'm off....see ya...

[hail2skins]

that's because they were in meetings together...remember that song...

"The More we get together, together, together the more we get together the Happier we'll be..."....:lol1:Uh, this was Fox first start at Safety and they have been meeting together for several weeks now according to a Friend.

[bergiemoore]

Uh, this was Fox first start at Safety and they have been meeting together for several weeks now according to a Friend.

Me and half my family didn't even recognize the number as he was running back that interception. We know it now!! I hope he continues to play this well.

[redskins567]

Looks like this threads a hit.:flower1:

[silverspring]

My opinion on troy vincent is simple. He is old. He had an injury history when we brought him here and quickly got injured. He is not the future, he was suppose to be a quick fix. So adios.

Vernon Fox needs more reps, who didn't like what they saw?

And we can't just give up on archuleta. No matter how bad he is, I think we are stuck with him at least for another season so we have to find a way for him to effectively contribute or we are basically throwing money away.

Other than that lets give reed some reps so we can find out what he is worth before the offseason.

[hail2skins]

My opinion on troy vincent is simple. He is old. He had an injury history when we brought him here and quickly got injured. He is not the future, he was suppose to be a quick fix. So adios.

Vernon Fox needs more reps, who didn't like what they saw?

And we can't just give up on archuleta. No matter how bad he is, I think we are stuck with him at least for another season so we have to find a way for him to effectively contribute or we are basically throwing money away.

Other than that lets give reed some reps so we can find out what he is worth before the offseason.Vincent was a hotfix and you get what you get. They at least tried. As for Adam, he can't cover his own shadow so using him as a hybrid LB like they did a couple of weeks ago is a good idea. Why would you want a safety who can't cover. Also, it's not like we haven't thrown money away before.

[whitskins]

How old is Vernon Fox? Does he have a long career in front of him?

[hail2skins]

How old is Vernon Fox? Does he have a long career in front of him?He's 26 and has 5 years in the NFL.

[whitskins]

He's 26 and has 5 years in the NFL.

Sounds good. I hope he keeps up his solid play. For some reason I thought he was much older.

[shally]

Would you have Adam Archeletta, Vernon Fox, or Troy Vincent as Safety next week next to Sean Taylor?(whoops wrong sean before).

i thought fox played the position very well.. he did not bite on any play actions and played a nice deep centerfield.. taylor looked comfortable as well.
leave fox in..

[hail2skins]

Sounds good. I hope he keeps up his solid play. For some reason I thought he was much older.I was really impressed with how him and Taylor communicated throughout the game. Yes, it's only one game but I say let's see what those two can do together.

[shally]

He's 26 and has 5 years in the NFL.


sounds like PP.. under appreciated, but given a chance, pretty solid..

plus fox does play solid special teams... i take back all the ugly things i said about him previously..:lol1:

[bantu]

One reason Fox is the type of player the team needs to give reps to is that you know he is hungry. He was the standout SP player on a terrible team. That just proves that even when the Lions were out of it, he still continued to play at a high level and take pride in his work. His hunger and eagerness will make for great competition at the strong safety position.

[skinsfan36]

keep in fox and if he continues this play give him an extension.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

watch all of us do a 360 on fox once he gives up a big play next week, lol. j/k....he played well yesterday and he deserves to start IMO.

[DoGood]

Vernon Fox almost had TWO interceptions. You have to keep him in there just judging by the fact that we shut down a very potent passing offense with perhaps the best WR in the game, and also how Fox's appearance coincided with our secondary playing the only decent game of the entire season. I'm not sure it was al him that made the difference but something worked with that group back there and GW should leave it just as it is now.

Don't mess with success.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

keep in fox and if he continues this play give him an extension.
Ditto.

[redwolf1218]

Fox will probably go the way of Ryan Clark...show case his abilities now, promise to stay, then leave via free-agency and become a backup elsewhere.

[Red Bear]

Fox will probably go the way of Ryan Clark...show case his abilities now, promise to stay, then leave via free-agency and become a backup elsewhere.

i believe Fox would be resignable. he should start against atlanta. if he continues to play well i think we would make him a fair offer, he has been primarily a career special teamer i believe, so he should be hungry.

[redwolf1218]

i believe Fox would be resignable. he should start against atlanta. if he continues to play well i think we would make him a fair offer, he has been primarily a career special teamer i believe, so he should be hungry.
unfortunately, that was all true of Ryan Clark as well.

[Red Bear]

unfortunately, that was all true of Ryan Clark as well.

i have to admit i would have rather paid ryan clark 6 years 30 million than adam archuleta

[redwolf1218]

i have to admit i would have rather paid ryan clark 6 years 30 million than adam archuleta
i agree, and even worse, we probably could have kept him for half of that, but we would have to give Taylor a raise...it might have been wise to keep Pierce too, and give Marcus a raise.

[santanadasavior]

First, I think it should be whoever Sean wants, because I would not want to say no to him.

Second, I believe a safety should be able to cover. Therefore, AA is out of the picture.

Third, for our purposes, testing new guys is what we need, so I want to see Fox or Doughty. These two could be the guys of the future and Fox played well. Vincent will get the start when healthy because of his leadership and experience, which I can't really argue with.

[shally]

i agree, and even worse, we probably could have kept him for half of that, but we would have to give Taylor a raise...it might have been wise to keep Pierce too, and give Marcus a raise.

think a little about what we are all saying..

we moan about losing clark..

then we sign arch for too much

now we get fox, who sounds like clark.. so if we end up with fox, we turn out okay.. dump arch next year if we need to, or encourage him to become a Will linebacker.

no point in crying about clark if we have as good in fox.. right ??

[redwolf1218]

think a little about what we are all saying..

we moan about losing clark..

then we sign arch for too much

now we get fox, who sounds like clark.. so if we end up with fox, we turn out okay.. dump arch next year if we need to, or encourage him to become a Will linebacker.

no point in crying about clark if we have as good in fox.. right ??
what i am saying is, Fox will probably leave just like Clark did. Clark was friends with Taylor and he knew the calls, supposedly.

[LATrueRedskin]

I think Vernon Fox played a great game, and has earned at least another start at the position alongside Sean. Let's find out what Vernon can really do on a consistent basis.

[shally]

what i am saying is, Fox will probably leave just like Clark did. Clark was friends with Taylor and he knew the calls, supposedly.

and what i am saying is, forget about the cap dollars, it is how the position is being played that really counts.. we have essentially gotten a mulligan on clark.. sign fox after the season long term (3 years ?) if he continues to play well.. that is really all that matters.. clark is a memory now. fox will be gratefull for a place he can start..
we won't likely make the same mistake 2 years in a row (at least i hope we wont)

[shally]

I think Vernon Fox played a great game, and has earned at least another start at the position alongside Sean. Let's find out what Vernon can really do on a consistent basis.

right.. exactly right... 1 good game does not justify a long term deal.. let's see what he does the remainder of the season

[redwolf1218]

and what i am saying is, forget about the cap dollars, it is how the position is being played that really counts.. we have essentially gotten a mulligan on clark.. sign fox after the season long term (3 years ?) if he continues to play well.. that is really all that matters.. clark is a memory now. fox will be gratefull for a place he can start..
we won't likely make the same mistake 2 years in a row (at least i hope we wont)
i think i am agreeing with you, but i am just saying that i think he will leave via free agency no matter what, even though he will end up being a backup elsewhere, like Clark is now in Pittsburg.

[shally]

i think i am agreeing with you, but i am just saying that i think he will leave via free agency no matter what, even though he will end up being a backup elsewhere, like Clark is now in Pittsburg.

i do not think he will end up leaving.... but my point is that even if he does, we have found clark, and then we found fox... worst case scenario is we dig up another one..

[RedskinRyan]

Whatever they did this week, nothing should be changed and I believe it was Fox who was playing the whole game. He got a pick, they didn't give up big plays, and the secondary had a solid day. Leave it as it is and see if they can have a solid outing two weeks in a row.

my sentiments exactly. fox got the start and we beat carolina, why tinker with it?

[shally]

my sentiments exactly. fox got the start and we beat carolina, why tinker with it?

everybody is in agreement.... next topic...
:lol1:

[dj_stouty]

I'd rotate all three.

Vincent is probably the best all around safety. Fox is better in coverage than he is against the run and AA is the opposite.

Take advantage of each of their stregnths.

And yes...Lady is 100% correct. If Fox gets beat deep, all of this talk about "how much longer of a career does Fox have" or "Fox will be our next Ryan Clark" will be long forgotten.

[smoak]

I'd try working AA into short yardage packages and get something for that $10MM...

But really don't change the starting duo.

[hail2skins]

I'd rotate all three.

Vincent is probably the best all around safety. Fox is better in coverage than he is against the run and AA is the opposite.

Take advantage of each of their stregnths.

And yes...Lady is 100% correct. If Fox gets beat deep, all of this talk about "how much longer of a career does Fox have" or "Fox will be our next Ryan Clark" will be long forgotten.Vincent was a hotfix and won't be here next season. I'd try to get chemistry going with Taylor and Fox. Arch, I'd use as a hybrid LB

[joethefan]

Vincent was a hotfix and won't be here next season. I'd try to get chemistry going with Taylor and Fox. Arch, I'd use as a hybrid LB


I can take that....

[shally]

[QUOTE=joethefan]I can take that....[/QUO

i also do not think that vincent will be here as a player next year.. way too brittle