TJ Duckett signed through 2007?

[MWballer]

Everyone on here and everyone when they talk about the trade call TJ Duckett a one year rental. I've continually heard people ask which one do we keep? and I myself have wondered this as well. But maybe our FO wasn't so stupid after all, maybe TJ Duckett isn't a FA next season?

http://www.theredzone.org/2007/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=RB

He's not on this list of FA RB's for next season.

http://fantasysports.aol.com/fb/playerProfile.cfm/pid.1188
Contract Details
Duckett signed a six-year deal on August 3, 2002. The Associated Press reports the contract to be worth about $9 million.

That would mean he's signed till 2008!!!

Wish I could take credit for this finding but mozwanted from footballsfuture found this interesting info first.

So now what do ppl think about the trade?

[skinsfan36]

i'm pretty sure he voided the final year before this year started.

[RedskinRyan]

sounding pretty good, especially since ladell is playing more and more like he's going to get a shot at starting. a few more games like he had against carolina, and teams like the texans, jets, and packers could go after him.

[shally]

i'm pretty sure he voided the final year before this year started.

pfffft........

did the air go out of that balloon pretty fast ???:lol1:

[ryflan47]

sounding pretty good, especially since ladell is playing more and more like he's going to get a shot at starting. a few more games like he had against carolina, and teams like the texans, jets, and packers could go after him.

If he goes to the Texans, he will fade away to never be seen again.

[MWballer]

i'm pretty sure he voided the final year before this year started.

I didn't know for sure and saw this. Can u confirm that?

[skinsfan36]

honestly no but ive heard it on 980 before but it may be false.

[MWballer]

http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salaries%20-%20Summary.htm

No. Name Pos 2006 2007
36 TJ Duckett RB 0.663 0.700

Has him under contract through 07 and that was updated in october

edit: btw lovin the avatar pic :lol1:

[skinsfan36]

http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salaries%20-%20Summary.htm



Has him under contract through 07 and that was updated in october

k maybe im wrong them,i hope so anyway

[MWballer]

http://www.fanball.com/football/playerProfile.cfm/pid.1188/T.J./Duckett/

Duckett isn't exactly beefing up his resume during the last year of his contract, and the Redskins aren't about to use him over Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, and Rock Cartwright. But, hey, at least they didn't trade away a third-round draft pick for Duckett. What? They did?!? That was dumb.

but the same site says:

Duckett signed a six-year deal on August 3, 2002. The Associated Press reports the contract to be worth about $9 million.

Whats the truth?

[shally]

http://www.fanball.com/football/playerProfile.cfm/pid.1188/T.J./Duckett/



but the same site says:



Whats the truth?

honestly, i cannot imagine that the skins front office would not have corrected the common belief that duckett was a free agent after this year, if that were not true...

think about it, why would the front office want a misconception to be common belief ? it makes no sense

[Slobberknocker]

Much as I wish the nothing-to-worry-about people are right, I remember reading that T.J. was in a contract year while he was still in Atlanta. I've liked the guy for awhile.

You'd think some clarification would come out this week above all others. You don't think he's motivated playing his old team?

[shally]

Much as I wish the nothing-to-worry-about people are right, I remember reading that T.J. was in a contract year while he was still in Atlanta. I've liked the guy for awhile.

You'd think some clarification would come out this week above all others. You don't think he's motivated playing his old team?

i think if we do not play him against his old team we are missing a golden opportunity.. the guy HAS to be fired up

[redskin_rich]

Everyone on here and everyone when they talk about the trade call TJ Duckett a one year rental. I've continually heard people ask which one do we keep? and I myself have wondered this as well. But maybe our FO wasn't so stupid after all, maybe TJ Duckett isn't a FA next season?

http://www.theredzone.org/2007/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=RB

He's not on this list of FA RB's for next season.

http://fantasysports.aol.com/fb/playerProfile.cfm/pid.1188


That would mean he's signed till 2008!!!

Wish I could take credit for this finding but mozwanted from footballsfuture found this interesting info first.

So now what do ppl think about the trade?
This has been discussed many times before, with a little research, you could have easily found the answer without starting a new thread.
Duckett is under contract until '08, however, the final year of the deal ('07) is voidable and he will most definitely void the last year. Duckett will be a free agent after this season.

http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Contracts%20Chart.htm

[CNYSkinFan]

TJ will void his finalk year here and leave. It is a player's option. Why would he stay when he is not getting significant carries even with Portis out.

Bad panic trade.

[Red Bear]

TJ will void his finalk year here and leave. It is a player's option. Why would he stay when he is not getting significant carries even with Portis out.

Bad panic trade.

unless we do it the redskins front office way and sign tj to a lucrative deal to be a back up and let the draftpick betts walk

[CNYSkinFan]

unless we do it the redskins front office way and sign tj to a lucrative deal to be a back up and let the draftpick betts walk
and then only play Ducketts on special teams....it's possible :)

[redskin_rich]

and then only play Ducketts on special teams....it's possible :)
$5 Mil per year wedgebuster, let's do it!

[CNYSkinFan]

$5 Mil per year wedgebuster, let's do it!
a 270 pound wedgebuster...man someone will get hurt.

[shally]

a 270 pound wedgebuster...man someone will get hurt.


what do you think we have in sellers ??

[danny's stogie]

This has been discussed many times before, with a little research, you could have easily found the answer without starting a new thread.
Duckett is under contract until '08, however, the final year of the deal ('07) is voidable and he will most definitely void the last year. Duckett will be a free agent after this season.

http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Contracts%20Chart.htm

Ahh....the Aussie striked again!

[Spence]

I'm pretty sure a major motivation for the Duckett trade was to keep him away from Philadelphia. The Eagles were also after him during the preseason.

Actually, I'd like to see the Redskins use Mike Sellers as a short yardage back more often. Stick a big offensive guard in front of him as the fullback and attack the hole with 500 pounds of angry backfield. Sellers has the sort of fierce determination I like to have in a short yardage back.

[redwolf1218]

I'm pretty sure a major motivation for the Duckett trade was to keep him away from Philadelphia. The Eagles were also after him during the preseason.

Actually, I'd like to see the Redskins use Mike Sellers as a short yardage back more often. Stick a big offensive guard in front of him as the fullback and attack the hole with 500 pounds of angry backfield. Sellers has the sort of fierce determination I like to have in a short yardage back.
put Dockery back there with Sellers and it would be more like 600 pounds.

i think Duckett is going to huge for us in these next few weeks. i've seen several comments about him "learning" and waiting.

from the conference call with Warrick Dunn:

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=22767

On how much he has spoken to running back T.J. Duckett (#36) and what he has said to him:
"I talked to him a couple of times. The thing that you can do is tell him to keep his head up and always stay ready. He is a competitor. We got along well when he was here. It was tough to see him leave. Of course it is a business decision for the franchise. What he is going through he is learning a lot.

[RedskinsDave]

I can't believe Duckett would want to leave this perfect situation.

[hockeygoalie29]

unless we do it the redskins front office way and sign tj to a lucrative deal to be a back up and let the draftpick betts walk

and then only play Ducketts on special teams....it's possible :)

at least until he misses an assignment that causes a punt to be blocked...:rolleyes:

[Apache]

Now you see why Betts stepped up his game this year. He's just trying to market himself for more money and possibly a starting role.


Everyone on here and everyone when they talk about the trade call TJ Duckett a one year rental. I've continually heard people ask which one do we keep? and I myself have wondered this as well. But maybe our FO wasn't so stupid after all, maybe TJ Duckett isn't a FA next season?

http://www.theredzone.org/2007/freeagents/showposition.asp?Position=RB

He's not on this list of FA RB's for next season.

http://fantasysports.aol.com/fb/playerProfile.cfm/pid.1188


That would mean he's signed till 2008!!!

Wish I could take credit for this finding but mozwanted from footballsfuture found this interesting info first.

So now what do ppl think about the trade?

[shally]

I can't believe Duckett would want to leave this perfect situation.

money.. the skins are not going to offer him starters money, i think.. someone else might. if so, like betts, he will be gone..

[Red Bear]

and then only play Ducketts on special teams....it's possible :)

yeah, because byner has so much faith in nemo that he will eventually unseat duckett and portis next year =]

[redwolf1218]

Now you see why Betts stepped up his game this year. He's just trying to market himself for more money and possibly a starting role.
i disagree about Betts "stepping up" his game. i think he plays at his highest level all the time, which is good, but not great. i dont think he can play any better just because he's in a "contract" year. i think every player, on every down, in every game, is marketing themselves, and doing their best. Betts is the same now as he has ever been, just getting used more, and not hurt yet like he has been in the past.

Duckett is the unknown commodity. he has been patiently awaiting his chance to be the starter since he was a first round draft pick. he's bigger, faster, and stronger than Betts, and might be more durable if given an extended opportunity.

[Green-Is-Good]

i disagree about Betts "stepping up" his game. i think he plays at his highest level all the time, which is good, but not great. i dont think he can play any better just because he's in a "contract" year. i think every player, on every down, in every game, is marketing themselves, and doing their best. Betts is the same now as he has ever been, just getting used more, and not hurt yet like he has been in the past.

Duckett is the unknown commodity. he has been patiently awaiting his chance to be the starter since he was a first round draft pick. he's bigger, faster, and stronger than Betts, and might be more durable if given an extended opportunity.

As a runner, yes, TJ is bigger faster and stronger.
But he is not a good blocker or pass catcher. Not as well-rounded a player as Ladell.

[redwolf1218]

As a runner, yes, TJ is bigger faster and stronger.
But he is not a good blocker or pass catcher. Not as well-rounded a player as Ladell.
how do you know that, when he has not been given the chance? Duckett can catch. i dont know about his blocking skills, but Betts is not a good blocker, i've seen him miss blocks too many times. then again, compared to Portis, lots of guys lack in blocking.

Betts has a lot of catches, but he was used as a 3rd down back to rest Portis, and Brunell was famous for checking down. let's see how many catches he gets as a starter with Campbell at QB.

right now, our leading receiver is Betts, and our leading tackler is Taylor. that is nothing to be proud of.

[santanadasavior]

how do you know that, when he has not been given the chance? Duckett can catch. i dont know about his blocking skills, but Betts is not a good blocker, i've seen him miss blocks too many times. then again, compared to Portis, lots of guys lack in blocking.

Betts has a lot of catches, but he was used as a 3rd down back to rest Portis, and Brunell was famous for checking down. let's see how many catches he gets as a starter with Campbell at QB.

I think a trademark of the Al Saunders offense was the checkdown route, he loved to throw there and it actually works really well. I just hope that when Portis comes back we can use him. He will be huge for us in that aspect. I love when he gets into space.

[redwolf1218]

I think a trademark of the Al Saunders offense was the checkdown route, he loved to throw there and it actually works really well. I just hope that when Portis comes back we can use him. He will be huge for us in that aspect. I love when he gets into space.
if Portis was healthy enough this year to be used like that, he'd be gashing teams with the receptions that Betts has been getting. he'd be more like Marshall Faulk was under Saunders IMO.

Betts was playing on 3rd downs to spell Portis because Portis was never 100% this year. now that Portis is out, i think Duckett should be running the ball and Betts should stay in his 3rd down role. it doesnt really work in reverse, with Betts starting, Duckett is not a 3rd down back like Betts has been.

[shally]

how do you know that, when he has not been given the chance? Duckett can catch. i dont know about his blocking skills, but Betts is not a good blocker, i've seen him miss blocks too many times. then again, compared to Portis, lots of guys lack in blocking.

Betts has a lot of catches, but he was used as a 3rd down back to rest Portis, and Brunell was famous for checking down. let's see how many catches he gets as a starter with Campbell at QB.

right now, our leading receiver is Betts, and our leading tackler is Taylor. that is nothing to be proud of.

the reason betts is the leading receiver is the chuck and duck of brunell...also moss's injury...

as for the defense, none of the linebackers is playing worth a damn. that explains all the tackles taylor is making

[redwolf1218]

the reason betts is the leading receiver is the chuck and duck of brunell...also moss's injury...

as for the defense, none of the linebackers is playing worth a damn. that explains all the tackles taylor is making
yes when your free safety leads the team in tackles, something is wrong, although Taylor is doing a great job.

[shally]

yes when your free safety leads the team in tackles, something is wrong, although Taylor is doing a great job.

for the first 5 or 6 weeks arch was the leading tackler.. but that is what he likes to do (it sure aint covering receivers, LOL)

[redwolf1218]

for the first 5 or 6 weeks arch was the leading tackler.. but that is what he likes to do (it sure aint covering receivers, LOL)
he's good at what he does, and he should be used exclusively in that role. losing Prioleau really hurt. i feel bad for Arch because he got mis-cast in his role.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

he's good at what he does, and he should be used exclusively in that role. losing Prioleau really hurt. i feel bad for Arch because he got mis-cast in his role.
I wonder if PP's injury stunted Arch in some manner. I know he's a veteran and high priced at that, but I wonder if PP had been playing maybe Arch would have been brought along at a slower pace and would be up to speed now rather than having to do everything from the beginning. Maybe when GW brought Arch in, he had designs of PP giving him help so that Arch would not be counted on so much.

[redwolf1218]

I wonder if PP's injury stunted Arch in some manner. I know he's a veteran and high priced at that, but I wonder if PP had been playing maybe Arch would have been brought along at a slower pace and would be up to speed now rather than having to do everything from the beginning. Maybe when GW brought Arch in, he had designs of PP giving him help so that Arch would not be counted on so much.
i dont doubt it at all. he would have had a chance to be groomed not only on the defensive schemes, but in his relationships with the rest of the secondary and the team, especially since he missed most of the offseason training on his own (a huge mistake on his part in my opinion).

[santanadasavior]

I wonder if PP's injury stunted Arch in some manner. I know he's a veteran and high priced at that, but I wonder if PP had been playing maybe Arch would have been brought along at a slower pace and would be up to speed now rather than having to do everything from the beginning. Maybe when GW brought Arch in, he had designs of PP giving him help so that Arch would not be counted on so much.

That makes a lot of sense and I expect PP to be a solid player next year. The clock hadn't even started in the first game, what a shame. I feel so bad when I think about that.