Article: Who's Here, Who's Not in '07

[skinfan43]

By Joseph White of the Associated Press...
READ IT HERE. (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/20061227-0037-fbn-redskinsrundown.html)

1) How bad is the hit if we release Lloyd? Should he stay in your opinion?
2)How about THIS for an accurate statement and a pathetic stat:

Williams' arrogance looks awfully meek when opposing QBs are posting a league-high 99.4 rating with 29 TDs and six interceptions...
I mean, I knew it was bad, but...just wow. Everyone happy if GW returns?

[Dolla Bill]

That is just salt in the wound of a season. A 99.4 rating? That's why if you need a cure for your team, play the 'skins.

[C-7]

Everyone happy if GW returns?

Definitely happy.

[Redskin4Life]

I think Arch is gone but Lloyd will stay. It's not like Moss has great stats this year either... only two good games (JAX, ATL) statistically. Just have to wait and see with the passing O.

With the anticipated change in defensive philosophy, maybe Arch stays and they find a way to use him. If not, no reason to keep him... he'll be cut quickly to avoid the 5 mil roster bonus.

[skinfan43]

Definitely happy.
Ok. Just going to keep a personal note of the supporters on here, curious to see if this disgusting defensive season has fed up the HR fanbase too much.
(However, using "definitely" is a strong word to me after what we've been forced to swallow each horrific week from our "defense" IMHO.)

How about Lloyd? Anyone know his cap hit if we cut him?

[greatest2]

don't mess with the offense, let saunders and gibbs figure it out. get some young o-line depth via darft (if we trae down and get a couple picks in the 2nd or 3rd rounds). defensively, lets get asante samuel or nate clements, and sign smoot if he is available (should come fairly cheap, especially since he just suffered a broken jaw and was replaced by a rookie mid-season). Lets get jared allen or justin smith at DE, and let goldsten(spelling) and montgomery develop and stay in the rotation. And lets get a MLB plug hole guy, and draft a mlb early in the draft. let the guy sit for a year and learn, then take over for the veteran mlb.

this would be some major moves on defense, and would take a little bit for the defense to click, but maybe the offfense can carry us for a little while, and the d can get some turnovers

[Redskin4Life]

Maybe Arch isn't going anywhere.... I saw this in the Redskins Insider in the Post:

So, the Skins could opt to exercise that $5 mil option, then cut Archuleta after June 1, should they decide that it's just not working here and they can't afford to pay the captain of their punt protection team or whatever he is that much dinero. In that case, the Skins would take a $1.83 mil cap hit in 2007, and face $7.165 in dead-cap money in 2008. It's often hard for teams to make a cut like that so late, however, because then you are carrying a high cap number into the new league year and through cap compliance in March, when normally you want to have your budget set before then.

If the Skins do not exercise the option, then Arch makes a guaranteed $595,000 in '07, a cool mil in '08 and $3.405 in '09. He's going to get that cash regardless, and the only way he might get a 'lil less is through a renegotiate, but the presence of the guaranteed salary clause basically negates any incentive to do that. Even if The Snyder threatened him with the full Laveranues Coles plasma-TV treatment, he'd have no real leverage.

If the Skins do not exercise the option, they would take a $9 mil cap hit in 2007 if released before June 1.

The most likely scenario, according to my dudes, bless their souls, might be the Skins opting not to exercise the option, and keeping AD for one more year. With the guarantees kicking in, he'd count $1.59 mil against the cap in 2007 - not great but not a backbreaker - which would allow the team flexibility to bring in other players. They could then cut him in 2008, which would accelerate the rest of the money due him and result in a $7.4 mil hit, which is essentially what it would cost them in 2008 dead money to cut Arch Deluxe in 2007, and then they would be getting nothing from him at all next season.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2006/11/post_3.html

[chrisbcbu]

This is the biggest thing i read in that article.

Gibbs said Tuesday that Springs, 31, could move to safety.

[greatest2]

This is the biggest thing i read in that article.

well that could solve our problems at safety for 1 or 2years, with preliou coming in when springs gets hurt, cause we know he will.
interesting, and probably a good move if he restructures his contract, other wise he isn't worth the 7 mil for a safety that plays 10-14 games if we are lucky

[redskinz#1fan]

I don't like this article at all! I think this guy is taking shots at us anyway he can.

Our offense has been in a building stage all year. We have been playing around with a playbook that really was unable to be used, because Brunell was at QB. (this is not taking a shot at Brunell, but Al's "O" is more suited for a player like Jason)

Our defense has been really bad, but a lot of this is due to our injury situation. PP was missed more then anyone thought. We had a bunch of injuries at CB, plus our interior "D" line has been battling injuries as well.

And to talk about Campbell is completely absurd. The kid didn't practice with the 1st team guys until the end of the damn season. He's still learning the playbook and the players, but has shown great strides. I have all the confidence in Campbell being our QB now and in the future.


I'm done!:banghead:

[ryflan47]

Rumph's already gone

[Keino]

Yes I want GW back. I think he's had a nice helping of Humble Pie. I also understand from my source, that the coaches are going to be holed up for 2 weeks after the season and that my source isn't looking forward to that. Gibbs is pissed and will be leaving no stone unturned during that 2 weeks. I think GW will be reminded who runs this ship.

As for Lloyd, I want him back. It is rare for WR's who switch teams to make immediate impacts. The guy runs like a gazelle and of all of our WR's is the best downfield blocker. I've seen him running free in the secondary far too much this season to believe that his lack of production is solely on him.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Yes I want GW back. I think he's had a nice helping of Humble Pie. I also understand from my source, that the coaches are going to be holed up for 2 weeks after the season and that my source isn't looking forward to that. Gibbs is pissed and will be leaving no stone unturned during that 2 weeks. I think GW will be reminded who runs this ship.

As for Lloyd, I want him back. It is rare for WR's who switch teams to make immediate impacts. The guy runs like a gazelle and of all of our WR's is the best downfield blocker. I've seen him running free in the secondary far too much this season to believe that his lack of production is solely on him.
I agree with this. If all our receivers were having good years, or at least were producing up to their career average, then I would think that something was specifically wrong with him. But they are all underproducing, beginning with Moss. So there is a problem with the whole offense, which began slowly, had to adjust to a new system, had to switch QBs, etc. etc. etc.
Actually what worries me most about Lloyd is his behavior issues, more than his lack of production.

[Meatsnack]

I agree with this. If all our receivers were having good years, or at least were producing up to their career average, then I would think that something was specifically wrong with him. But they are all underproducing, beginning with Moss. So there is a problem with the whole offense, which began slowly, had to adjust to a new system, had to switch QBs, etc. etc. etc.
Actually what worries me most about Lloyd is his behavior issues, more than his lack of production.
Losing brings out the worst in players. I am OK with a guy as young as Lloyd popping off every now and again. If he can show me something next year and his production is what we thought it would be this year (about 40-45 catches, 18 ypc avg. and 5-7 TDs) then he can mouth-off like Gary Clark at a Dallass game and it's all good. I am certainly willing to cut Lloyd some slack given Brunell's issues and Campbell's growing pains. He will get at least one more year to develop here before I start thinking he was a waste of time. It does highlight, though, that if we are willing to wait for players to develop, we may as well draft youngsters.

[LATrueRedskin]

Gregg Williams better figure out how to generate turnovers with his scheme, or he'll get old real quick. The stat somebody posted earlier (I think it was redskin_rich) of GW's turnover rankings dating back to Buffalo is startling and eye opening to me. In order for us to have any type of success deep in the playoffs, we need a defense that generates turnovers.

[joethefan]

Yea GW has some work to do....

I say Gibbs should lock him and his 14 coaches in a shed and givem some peanut butter and a loaf of bread and tell him,

"Don't come out of there until you have the anwers to the following questions": they are as follows:

1 What in the hell took you so long to play Rocky? And why did it take me so long to see that he can make plays? I mean 8 tackles last week, You're slipping Gregg. Tell Dale to stop having Lavar flashbacks and keep the kid on the field. Please???.

2 If I'm giving you top draft pics every year, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? Why are you taking this long to get a guy ready, if it's the person that can't get the scheme then tailor the scheme to fit the person since you picked him!!
3 Can you tell your secondary coaches to speak to each other occasionally?
4 OC's are going after your Cover 2 scheme like a man who hasn't eaten in three days and sees someone drop a piece of chicken...Find a way to FIX IT!!!
5 Can you play or find something for Adam to do on Defense at some point, you're making me look like a an idiot!!! Remember you picked em' , i just called him and danny made the deal.

6 Can you get Carlos some Golf Balls please take him outside and play catch with him on every part of the field!!!

7 Teach some bump and run techniques please...we can't keep giving up 7 yards on 3rd and 6? Please....

8 Can you please stop Over coaching these guys and let their talents speak for them. Sean doesn't wanna tackle anyone anymore, cause he doens't know who to listen to.

We can't keep giving to top talent and you brush it to the side like like it's some old cut grass or something. get it right Gregg
Remember Don't come outa there until you have an answer and a solution to all of this."

[skinfan43]

Yea GW has some work to do....

I say Gibbs should lock him and his 14 coaches in a shed and givem some peanut butter and a loaf of bread and tell him,

"Don't come out of there until you have the anwers to the following questions": they are as follows:

1 What in the hell took you so long to play Rocky? And why did it take me so long to see that he can make plays? I mean 8 tackles last week, You're slipping Gregg. Tell Dale to stop having Lavar flashbacks and keep the kid on the field. Please???.

2 If I'm giving you top draft pics every year, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? Why are you taking this long to get a guy ready, if it's the person that can't get the scheme then tailor the scheme to fit the person since you picked him!!
3 Can you tell your secondary coaches to speak to each other occasionally?
4 OC's are going after your Cover 2 scheme like a man who hasn't eaten in three days and sees someone drop a piece of chicken...Find a way to FIX IT!!!
5 Can you play find something for Adam to do on Defense at some point, you're making me look like a an idiot!!! Remember you picked em' , i just called him and danny made the deal.

6 Can you get Carlos some Golf Balls please take him outside and play catch with him on every of the field!!!

7 Teach some bump and run techniques please...we can't keep giving up 7 yards on 3rd and 6? Please....

8 Can you please stop Over coaching these guys and let their talents speak for them. Sean doesn't wanna tackle anyone anymore, cause he doens't know who to listen to.

We can't keep giving to top talent and you brush it to the side like like it's some old cut grass or something. get it right Gregg
Remember Don't come outa there until you have an answer and a solution to all of this."

Great stuff Big E, at least you were kind enough to give 'em some PB and bread;)

[smoak]

Definitely happy.

Agreed. I don't turn my back on someone who showed guts by staying here when he was a hot commodity. It was a down year, but GW knows how to coach. If players are tired of hearing the message, then replace the players.

[smoak]

Ok. Just going to keep a personal note of the supporters on here, curious to see if this disgusting defensive season has fed up the HR fanbase too much.
(However, using "definitely" is a strong word to me after what we've been forced to swallow each horrific week from our "defense" IMHO.)

How about Lloyd? Anyone know his cap hit if we cut him?

Not only do I say "definitely", but I say I want GW back 111%. You don't win championships in this league by breaking everything down the second it goes wrong. The lesson I learned this year is that GW should have no sway in the personnel decisions, but the man can absolutely coach.

A better question might be to ask if Joe Gibbs should have hired a disciple of Buddy Ryan in the first place (I always thought it seemed like bad mojo), but as we have already did that, we have to dance with the girl we donr brought to the prom.

Lastly, I'd also like to point out that at times I was panned for pointing out these problems in the defense last year. They literally have regressed two years in a row and I hope that Gibbs has the ability to stick a foot up GW's butt to get this turned around.

[Keino]

Not only do I say "definitely", but I say I want GW back 111%. You don't win championships in this league by breaking everything down the second it goes wrong. The lesson I learned this year is that GW should have no sway in the personnel decisions, but the man can absolutely coach.

A better question might be to ask if Joe Gibbs should have hired a disciple of Buddy Ryan in the first place (I always thought it seemed like bad mojo), but as we have already did that, we have to dance with the girl we donr brought to the prom.

Lastly, I'd also like to point out that at times I was panned for pointing out these problems in the defense last year. They literally have regressed two years in a row and I hope that Gibbs has the ability to stick a foot up GW's butt to get this turned around.

Wasn't Buddy Ryan the defensive coordinator for a Superbowl champ? Isn't that particular defense arguably one of the best all-time defenses ever? Ryan was a world class jerk, but the man could coach defense. I wouldn't hesitate to hire one of his disciples.

[skinsfan36]

ok whos here: whole offense minus fauria,amybe oline depth changes

whos not:daniels,fauria,arch,wade(trys to start somewhere),duckett,holdman,wright,patten,hall,mayb e joe s.

[smoak]

Wasn't Buddy Ryan the defensive coordinator for a Superbowl champ? Isn't that particular defense arguably one of the best all-time defenses ever? Ryan was a world class jerk, but the man could coach defense. I wouldn't hesitate to hire one of his disciples.
I'm not debating the man's ability to coach.... I was actually defending it if you read my post. It is simply a case of me wondering if it "bad mojo".

That said I've made maybe 50 posts in the past month or two and probably half are defending GW. I'm in his corner.

[redwolf1218]

Wasn't Buddy Ryan the defensive coordinator for a Superbowl champ? Isn't that particular defense arguably one of the best all-time defenses ever? Ryan was a world class jerk, but the man could coach defense. I wouldn't hesitate to hire one of his disciples.
there is something to be said for a coach whom everyone hates and then they all band together (like Ryan or Parcells), but there is also something to be said for a coach for whom everyone wants to play their heart out (like Gibbs).

the question is which worked better in the old days and which works better now.

[redwolf1218]

here's another pretty good article about possibles restructures. i havent seen it posted and this is the closest thing i could find to an appropriate thread to stick this is:

http://redskins.scout.com/2/608669.html

interesting note from it:

The Redskins are about $1 million over the $109 million salary cap with just 41 players under contract.
(this article http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salary%20Cap%20Position.html says we are almost 3 mil over)

Shawn Springs ($7.35 million)
Cornelius Griffin ($6.16 million)
Phillip Daniels ($3.27 million)
...are all starters in their 30s, coming off injury-hampered seasons and have salary cap numbers that might make them too expensive to keep.

Mark Brunell ($6.84 million)
Renaldo Wynn ($4.03 million)
...who both lost their starting jobs last season, will have to take huge pay cuts to return.

David Patten ($3.01 million), who caught just one pass in 2006, almost certainly will be cut.

Troy Vincent ($1.71 million) at age 36.

Chris Samuels ($8.85 million)
Jon Jansen ($5.85 million)
Randy Thomas ($5.54 million)
...are linchpins of an excellent offensive line, but they might have to restructure their contracts.

Marcus Washington ($6.02 million)
Clinton Portis ($7.09 million)

Of course, restructuring deals just postpones the inevitable cap hit and with so many 30-something players, paying the pipe will come sooner rather than later.

There are also the headaches caused by the $5 million guaranteed base salaries for Archuleta...
Gibbs ... was less definitive about Archuleta, who figures to released as one of Washington's two exceptions to the June 1 rule. He would then count a pro-rated $1.83 million in 2007 with the remaining $7.1 million of his guaranteed money counting in 2008.

[danny's stogie]

How in the world does Troy Vincent have a 1.7 million dollar cap hit?

In the end I think Wynn and Daniels are both back at reduced salaries. By all accounts, they're too valuable in the locker room to let go.

[shally]

Wasn't Buddy Ryan the defensive coordinator for a Superbowl champ? Isn't that particular defense arguably one of the best all-time defenses ever? Ryan was a world class jerk, but the man could coach defense. I wouldn't hesitate to hire one of his disciples.

ryans talent level in the front 7 was over the top great.. i could have coached that defense to a top 5 result

[Redskin4Life]

here's another pretty good article about possibles restructures. i havent seen it posted and this is the closest thing i could find to an appropriate thread to stick this is:

http://redskins.scout.com/2/608669.html

interesting note from it:

The Redskins are about $1 million over the $109 million salary cap with just 41 players under contract.
(this article http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salary%20Cap%20Position.html says we are almost 3 mil over)

Shawn Springs ($7.35 million)
Cornelius Griffin ($6.16 million)
Phillip Daniels ($3.27 million)
...are all starters in their 30s, coming off injury-hampered seasons and have salary cap numbers that might make them too expensive to keep.

Mark Brunell ($6.84 million)
Renaldo Wynn ($4.03 million)
...who both lost their starting jobs last season, will have to take huge pay cuts to return.

David Patten ($3.01 million), who caught just one pass in 2006, almost certainly will be cut.

Troy Vincent ($1.71 million) at age 36.

Chris Samuels ($8.85 million)
Jon Jansen ($5.85 million)
Randy Thomas ($5.54 million)
...are linchpins of an excellent offensive line, but they might have to restructure their contracts.

Marcus Washington ($6.02 million)
Clinton Portis ($7.09 million)

Of course, restructuring deals just postpones the inevitable cap hit and with so many 30-something players, paying the pipe will come sooner rather than later.

There are also the headaches caused by the $5 million guaranteed base salaries for Archuleta...
Gibbs ... was less definitive about Archuleta, who figures to released as one of Washington's two exceptions to the June 1 rule. He would then count a pro-rated $1.83 million in 2007 with the remaining $7.1 million of his guaranteed money counting in 2008.
I did some rough calcs (probably VERY rough since I don't have access to all the real salaries and if any of these guys did any restructures prior to this one)... but if all of these guys come back at the league minimum and convert their base salaries to SB, I came up with around 25 to 27 mil under.

Sounds like we're going FA fishin' fellas (and ladies)!!?!!?!?!

[shally]

I did some rough calcs (probably VERY rough since I don't have access to all the real salaries and if any of these guys did any restructures prior to this one)... but if all of these guys come back at the league minimum and convert their base salaries to SB, I came up with around 25 to 27 mil under.

Sounds like we're going FA fishin' fellas (and ladies)!!?!!?!?!

why should this off season be any different ???:rolleyes:

[BIGSEF3]

werent we like 10 million OVER the cap last year AFTER the CBA extension? and we were able to cut one payer with a huge contract and still sign 4 players to 30M contracts.

So financially, im not worried about our ABILITY to do the same this year. But we cant do anything if the players dont AGREE to it. Last year we were coming off a 10-6 season where we went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. We seemed to be very close to a superbowl. This year, we're coming off a disappointing season where, for the most part, the high-priced FAs we brought in did nothing to help this team. Why would players on this team WANT to restructure so we can do all that again?

[redwolf1218]

werent we like 10 million OVER the cap last year AFTER the CBA extension? and we were able to cut one payer with a huge contract and still sign 4 players to 30M contracts.

So financially, im not worried about our ABILITY to do the same this year. But we cant do anything if the players dont AGREE to it. Last year we were coming off a 10-6 season where we went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. We seemed to be very close to a superbowl. This year, we're coming off a disappointing season where, for the most part, the high-priced FAs we brought in did nothing to help this team. Why would players on this team WANT to restructure so we can do all that again?
because they get millions of dollars up front, all over again. Snyder is willing to dish out millions to these guys, then more millions to new guys.

[skinsfan36]

werent we like 10 million OVER the cap last year AFTER the CBA extension? and we were able to cut one payer with a huge contract and still sign 4 players to 30M contracts.

So financially, im not worried about our ABILITY to do the same this year. But we cant do anything if the players dont AGREE to it. Last year we were coming off a 10-6 season where we went to the 2nd round of the playoffs. We seemed to be very close to a superbowl. This year, we're coming off a disappointing season where, for the most part, the high-priced FAs we brought in did nothing to help this team. Why would players on this team WANT to restructure so we can do all that again?
well the only expensive people we need to sign and resign are 2 cbs,mlb,and dock the lineman will restructure for dock. and daniels is probably gone,as is hall,and brunell will have to take vet min to stay,bye bye patten instant cap room for 3 players

[skinsfan36]

here's another pretty good article about possibles restructures. i havent seen it posted and this is the closest thing i could find to an appropriate thread to stick this is:

http://redskins.scout.com/2/608669.html

interesting note from it:

The Redskins are about $1 million over the $109 million salary cap with just 41 players under contract.
(this article http://www.skinsfans.com/pcinoz/Salary%20Cap%20Position.html says we are almost 3 mil over)

Shawn Springs ($7.35 million)
Cornelius Griffin ($6.16 million)
Phillip Daniels ($3.27 million)
...are all starters in their 30s, coming off injury-hampered seasons and have salary cap numbers that might make them too expensive to keep.

Mark Brunell ($6.84 million)
Renaldo Wynn ($4.03 million)
...who both lost their starting jobs last season, will have to take huge pay cuts to return.

David Patten ($3.01 million), who caught just one pass in 2006, almost certainly will be cut.

Troy Vincent ($1.71 million) at age 36.

Chris Samuels ($8.85 million)
Jon Jansen ($5.85 million)
Randy Thomas ($5.54 million)
...are linchpins of an excellent offensive line, but they might have to restructure their contracts.

Marcus Washington ($6.02 million)
Clinton Portis ($7.09 million)

Of course, restructuring deals just postpones the inevitable cap hit and with so many 30-something players, paying the pipe will come sooner rather than later.

There are also the headaches caused by the $5 million guaranteed base salaries for Archuleta...
Gibbs ... was less definitive about Archuleta, who figures to released as one of Washington's two exceptions to the June 1 rule. He would then count a pro-rated $1.83 million in 2007 with the remaining $7.1 million of his guaranteed money counting in 2008.
griff stays,washington,portis stay,our oline def stays,wynn will restructure,springs i hope,the rest i could care less,i guess vincents vet min is 1.7 mil gesh

[BIGSEF3]

because they get millions of dollars up front, all over again. Snyder is willing to dish out millions to these guys, then more millions to new guys.

I just have this feeling alot of these players (especially defensively) would rather go somewhere else with more stability and a more apparent chance of WINNING. alot of these guys are getting up in years and have a closing window if they ever want to make a superbowl.

I think this Snyder/Gibbs could really send a good message to this team if they resigned dockery ASAP and gave Cooley a nice extension. lets take care of our own guys who have proven themselves and then i think everyone else would be more open to restructuring.

[James F. Quinn]

Why would players on this team WANT to restructure so we can do all that again?

In a few cases, they won't really have a choice. There are some players who, however valuable, simply aren't worth their current 2007 salaries.

Online salary charts aren't 100% accurate, but they are illustrative.

Brunell $5.2, Griffin $4.2M, Shawn Springs ~$3.9M (?),

Some who are players with some future, you offer true restructuring to convert that 2007 salary into a bonus and allocated cap hit in future years.

Others you simply offer salary cuts or being cut; their choice. In almost all cases those subsequent years with big money are simply team options. It's hardball, but you simply can't keep pushing big salaries into the future by converting them to bonuses.

Chris Samuels is rapidly approaching a point where the financial pain of keeping him begins to outweigh the loss of his play and the crushing load of his cap hit, compared to what someone like Todd Wade could do in his place.

[Redskin4Life]

why should this off season be any different ???:rolleyes:
I guess this is was the first year I've heard OUR members talking about cutting guys to get under and make offseason moves. I get worried when the hR capologists talk about releasing people....

[Hr fan]

I read the article on Archuletta and don't get to the same numbers. If we save the $5M by letting him go then his salary guarantees kick in but are spread over three years. Don't the salaries kick in when the player is to be paid? This is different than a bonus which is paid up front and allowed to be prorated. That should accelerate, since it has already been paid. The salaries, however, have not been paid and won't be except as stipulated, over time. Is there a clause in the bargaining agreement that accelerates future payments that are guaranteed into the same year as the cut? If this is true, why not just guarantee the salaries as bonus up front?

What I get as numbers are acceleration of his signing bonus all into next year, which would put us over the cap unless we renegotiate some contracts. This would be $3.75 M plus guatranteed salary of $500+, heavy but not insupportable. Future years would be impacted as guaranteed salary becomes due, which would push the next largest cap hit off until 2009/2010.

Snyder and crew must have had a reason to spread the guaranteed money as salary instead of upfront bonus. Since the net impact over time against cap is the same, why differentiate between guaranteed salary vs bonus?

Can someone out there help me? I am no lawyer, and this, I think, needs one who understands cap implications.

[redwolf1218]

Snyder and crew must have had a reason to spread the guaranteed money as salary instead of upfront bonus. Since the net impact over time against cap is the same, why differentiate between guaranteed salary vs bonus?

Can someone out there help me? I am no lawyer, and this, I think, needs one who understands cap implications.
i am not sure because i am not Snyder and i am certainly no capologist, but if i was Snyder i would not want to give anyone all the guaranteed money up front. i would be thinking it's one thing to take a cap hit on my team, but quite another to throw 10 millions bucks into a toilet, then go out and give a bunch of money to someone else on top of that.

[bgforever]

don't mess with the offense, let saunders and gibbs figure it out. get some young o-line depth via darft (if we trae down and get a couple picks in the 2nd or 3rd rounds). defensively, lets get asante samuel or nate clements, and sign smoot if he is available (should come fairly cheap, especially since he just suffered a broken jaw and was replaced by a rookie mid-season). Lets get jared allen or justin smith at DE, and let goldsten(spelling) and montgomery develop and stay in the rotation. And lets get a MLB plug hole guy, and draft a mlb early in the draft. let the guy sit for a year and learn, then take over for the veteran mlb.

this would be some major moves on defense, and would take a little bit for the defense to click, but maybe the offfense can carry us for a little while, and the d can get some turnovers

Here in the BOLD areas you are right, but there is one player I'd like to have back, if Atlanta lets him go, and sign him where "Wright" is. Christian Morton.

[redwolf1218]

I just have this feeling alot of these players (especially defensively) would rather go somewhere else with more stability and a more apparent chance of WINNING. alot of these guys are getting up in years and have a closing window if they ever want to make a superbowl.

I think this Snyder/Gibbs could really send a good message to this team if they resigned dockery ASAP and gave Cooley a nice extension. lets take care of our own guys who have proven themselves and then i think everyone else would be more open to restructuring.
some players might view moving as the opposite of stability. they might believe we are close to winning and getting back to the playoffs. the older guys might not want to uproot their families to move to a new city just for a couple of years elsewhere.

i agree about Cooley. as for Dock, last i heard the 2 sides were far apart in negotiations. they did take a step in the right direction with Betts.

[Axegrinder]

We can't blame GW for our lack of turnovers.If our guys didn't have hands of butter,those QB ratings would be quite different.

[Death_Venom]

Personally I will be very satisfied if GW returns next year. I am more inclined to believe that this year was a combination of key injuries and a fluke. GW has proven in the past he can take a bunch of nobodies and coach them into a defensive beast and I think that transformation will happen agein.

[Syllable]

We can fix this broken core by not changing our off season big spending sprees, but by going at it in another direction. First off, we need to hit the second tier of the free agent market hard, not the top tier. This means grabbing players who are underpaid and who perform at a moderate or above average level. This would mean we would have to grab a GM who really understands finding these gems and getting them here. Grabbing Depth is much more of a concern this season than ever. We see the fact that we cannot play with our shell defense.

Second off, we need to grab the depth early. We usually don't grab depth early enough to get anyone useful in the second and third tiers of free agency. The 'core' is the depth that we have in ever position. Looking for underpaid mediocre to top end players without big expectations is the step we need to go to get this team back into good form. We need to grab a lot of depth this off-season and cut off the players and coaches who have big ego's. We do so much spending on our starters that we rarely go out and grab good free agents, this hurts us because we cannot make any stars out of 2nd tier free agents or draft picks because we don't pick them up.

To sum this up, I would like to see us hit Free-Agency hard again this year. But... we need to grab people who can develop into players and not bring in Big egos who have little to prove.

I am with a new gm 110%.

[Hr fan]

i am not sure because i am not Snyder and i am certainly no capologist, but if i was Snyder i would not want to give anyone all the guaranteed money up front. i would be thinking it's one thing to take a cap hit on my team, but quite another to throw 10 millions bucks into a toilet, then go out and give a bunch of money to someone else on top of that.

Thanks, but misses the point. As shown there is no difference between guaranteed salary or bonus as a cap hit. If this is true, why spread it to the future? Is Danny running out of money?

[LW12189]

Keep Archuleta, he's the best tackler on the team. If we improve the pass rush and CBs he could definitely be a force to reckon with.

Lloyd has no hope of improvement with the Redskins with his current attitude.

[redwolf1218]

Thanks, but misses the point. As shown there is no difference between guaranteed salary or bonus as a cap hit. If this is true, why spread it to the future? Is Danny running out of money?
you're right, i did miss the point. i wasnt thinking about salaries guaranteed to be paid later after the player is gone.

[redwolf1218]

Keep Archuleta, he's the best tackler on the team. If we improve the pass rush and CBs he could definitely be a force to reckon with.

Lloyd has no hope of improvement with the Redskins with his current attitude.
i think they both have hope if used correctly, and if the psychological damage is not too great.

[Sarge]

2007 NFLPA SCHEDULE
Important Dates



JANUARY 2007


January 1, Monday

Clubs may begin signing previously terminated free-agent players for the 2007 season.
Players with at least four credited seasons prior to 2006 who were released after beginning of 2006 regular season may apply for Termination Pay between this date and February 1, 2007.

January 1, Monday through January 5, Friday

NFL Players Week on the Wheel of Fortune

January 6, Saturday & January 7, Sunday

Wild Card Playoffs

January 13, Saturday & January 14, Sunday

Divisional Playoffs

January 15, Monday

Martin Luther King, Jr. Holiday – NFLPA offices closed (re-open Tues., Jan. 16)

January 21, Sunday

AFC & NFC Championship Games

January 27, Saturday

Senior Bowl, Mobile, AL

January 31, Wednesday

Renewal period ends for the NFLPA Financial Advisors Program.


FEBRUARY 2007


February 1, Thursday

Termination Pay Claims by eligible players who were released after beginning of 2006 regular season should be submitted by this date.
NFLPA Super Bowl Press Conference in NFL Media Center, Miami, FL
Bell/Rozelle NFL Players Retirement Board Investment Committee Meeting in Miami, FL

Players Inc. VIP Party in Miami, FL

February 2, Friday

NFL Players Party in Miami, FL

February 3, Saturday

NFL Player Mania in Miami, FL

February 4, Sunday

Super Bowl XLI in Miami, FL

February 8, Thursday

First day clubs can designate Franchise or Transition players.

February 10, Saturday

AFC-NFC Pro Bowl in Honolulu, HI

February 12, Monday

Waiver system begins for 2007. Players with at least four previous pension-credited seasons whom clubs desire to terminate are not subject to the waiver system until after the trading deadline in October.

February 19, Monday

President’s Day Holiday – NFLPA offices closed (re-open Tues., Feb. 20)
February 21, Wednesday through February 27, Tuesday

NFL Combine Timing and Testing Sessions at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis, IN

February 22, Thursday*

Deadline for designation of Franchise/Transition players

February 23, Friday

NFLPA Contract Advisors Seminar at Indianapolis Convention Center


MARCH 2007


March 1, Thursday

Cut-off date for applications to receive March 31, 2007 Severance Payments.
New applicant registration period ends for the NFLPA Financial Advisors Program.

Cut-off date for applications to receive March 31, 2007 Severance Payments.
Deadline for club to exercise options for 2007 on all players who have option clauses in their 2006 contracts.

Expiration date of all player contracts due to expire after 2006 season.
Deadline for clubs to submit Qualifying Offers to Restricted Free Agents whose contracts are expiring.

Deadline for clubs to submit minimum salary offers to Exclusive Rights Free Agents (players with less than three years of free agency credit).

March 2, Friday

Free Agency period begins (see p. 96 for explanation of free agent categories).

Trading period begins for 2007

March 16, Friday through March 23, Friday

NFLPA Annual Board of Player Reps Meeting in Maui, HI

March 19, Monday

Clubs may begin voluntary off-season workout programs

March 25, Sunday through March 28, Wednesday

NFL Owners Meeting at Arizona Biltmore, Phoenix, AZ

March 31, Saturday

Plan year end for Bell/Rozelle and Second Career Savings Plan. Season 2006 credited and club contributions made to Second Career Savings Plan (see p.54).


APRIL 2007


April 6, Friday

Good Friday/Easter Holiday – NFLPA offices closed (re-open Monday, April 9)

April 19, Thursday through April 21, Saturday (Tentative)

NFLPA Workers Compensation Panel Meeting

April 20, Friday

Deadline for signing and submission of Offer Sheets by Restricted Free Agents

April 27, Friday

Deadline for Old Clubs to match Offer Sheets submitted by Restricted Free Agents

April 28, Saturday & April 29, Sunday

NFL Draft in New York City, NY

[skinfan43]

2007 NFLPA SCHEDULE
Important Dates



JANUARY 2007


January 1, Monday

Clubs may begin signing previously terminated free-agent players for the 2007 season.
Players with at least four credited seasons prior to 2006 who were released after beginning of 2006 regular season may apply for Termination Pay between this date and February 1, 2007.

January 1, Monday through January 5, Friday

NFL Players Week on the Wheel of Fortune

January 6, Saturday & January 7, Sunday

Wild Card Playoffs

January 13, Saturday & January 14, Sunday

Divisional Playoffs

January 15, Monday

Martin Luther King, Jr. Holiday – NFLPA offices closed (re-open Tues., Jan. 16)

January 21, Sunday

AFC & NFC Championship Games

January 27, Saturday

Senior Bowl, Mobile, AL

January 31, Wednesday

Renewal period ends for the NFLPA Financial Advisors Program.


FEBRUARY 2007


February 1, Thursday

Termination Pay Claims by eligible players who were released after beginning of 2006 regular season should be submitted by this date.
NFLPA Super Bowl Press Conference in NFL Media Center, Miami, FL
Bell/Rozelle NFL Players Retirement Board Investment Committee Meeting in Miami, FL

Players Inc. VIP Party in Miami, FL

February 2, Friday

NFL Players Party in Miami, FL

February 3, Saturday

NFL Player Mania in Miami, FL

February 4, Sunday

Super Bowl XLI in Miami, FL

February 8, Thursday

First day clubs can designate Franchise or Transition players.

February 10, Saturday

AFC-NFC Pro Bowl in Honolulu, HI

February 12, Monday

Waiver system begins for 2007. Players with at least four previous pension-credited seasons whom clubs desire to terminate are not subject to the waiver system until after the trading deadline in October.

February 19, Monday

President’s Day Holiday – NFLPA offices closed (re-open Tues., Feb. 20)
February 21, Wednesday through February 27, Tuesday

NFL Combine Timing and Testing Sessions at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis, IN

February 22, Thursday*

Deadline for designation of Franchise/Transition players

February 23, Friday

NFLPA Contract Advisors Seminar at Indianapolis Convention Center


MARCH 2007


March 1, Thursday

Cut-off date for applications to receive March 31, 2007 Severance Payments.
New applicant registration period ends for the NFLPA Financial Advisors Program.

Cut-off date for applications to receive March 31, 2007 Severance Payments.
Deadline for club to exercise options for 2007 on all players who have option clauses in their 2006 contracts.

Expiration date of all player contracts due to expire after 2006 season.
Deadline for clubs to submit Qualifying Offers to Restricted Free Agents whose contracts are expiring.

Deadline for clubs to submit minimum salary offers to Exclusive Rights Free Agents (players with less than three years of free agency credit).

March 2, Friday

Free Agency period begins (see p. 96 for explanation of free agent categories).

Trading period begins for 2007

March 16, Friday through March 23, Friday

NFLPA Annual Board of Player Reps Meeting in Maui, HI

March 19, Monday

Clubs may begin voluntary off-season workout programs

March 25, Sunday through March 28, Wednesday

NFL Owners Meeting at Arizona Biltmore, Phoenix, AZ

March 31, Saturday

Plan year end for Bell/Rozelle and Second Career Savings Plan. Season 2006 credited and club contributions made to Second Career Savings Plan (see p.54).


APRIL 2007


April 6, Friday

Good Friday/Easter Holiday – NFLPA offices closed (re-open Monday, April 9)

April 19, Thursday through April 21, Saturday (Tentative)

NFLPA Workers Compensation Panel Meeting

April 20, Friday

Deadline for signing and submission of Offer Sheets by Restricted Free Agents

April 27, Friday

Deadline for Old Clubs to match Offer Sheets submitted by Restricted Free Agents

April 28, Saturday & April 29, Sunday

NFL Draft in New York City, NY
Thanks Sarge...but exactly what the hell is all of that?
:D